Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit

[Chad]

brother in Christ

Thank you for posting this! I guess you would say that I am a new Christian, I've gotten serious about it for a couple of years. I sturggle with this fear, b/c I have some very bad thoughts run thru my mind...not of my own, but it sure does feel like it. After I researched it, I found it it's very common. So that made me feel better, as you did. Thank you again, God bless you.

I get these all the time. I *think* I noticed if you read more, pray more and sin less they somewhat seem to go away. But again I think it may be permanent so long as we're in the flesh (body).

 

[Yeshua]

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In my belief blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the same as accepting the mark of the beast. Picture in your mind someone who has accepted the mark. There hearts would be cold to god and others. They will not care for gods love or forgiveness.They just simply wont care for anything but themselves. So i believe blasphemy of thr Holy Spirit is the same it hardens your heart to gods forgiveness. It takes your ability to ask for forgiveness away. So if you are worried you have done it this may help you to know you havent. If you love and care about god and others then you havent done it

 

[Princess487]

I just want to add this:
This is what my big dictionary (Webster’s New Universal Unabridged Dictionary) says about blasphemy.
1. Profane or mocking speech, writing, or action concerning God or anything regarded as sacred.
In law, blasphemy is an indictable offense defined as wanton and malicious revilement of God and the Christian religion. In English law, according to Blackstone, blasphemy is an offense against God and religion, by impiously denying the existence or providence of God, by contumelious reproaches of Jesus Christ, or by profanely scoffing at Holy Scripture or exposing it to contempt and ridicule.
2. Contempt for God

 

[pixie]

Thank you for this post, it was so informing. I too, have felt that I have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit and am comforted to know that if I am seeking apology, I am not guilty. I am ridden with guilt because of my strict upbringring, contrary to the Word.
Also, I am also heartened to hear that others get bad thoughts too. It is a struggle in the flesh, that I have been dealing with for years and very discouraging to me.
Thanks again for this post.

 

[Jei_263]

Thanks for sharing it's quite interesting reading all this, most of it i've never thought about.
Stay Real
Jei
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[snowflake]

That was really interesting
Ruth

 

[Jesushyper]

I feared commiting this

yeah, some years ago, I had a strange experience when I was Baptized in the Holy Spirit. satan tried to convince me that it was him, and once I allowed my mind to think that it may have been, satan said, ahhh you called the HS satan, now I have got you. Well, God the Father loves us sooo much that He wants us in His Heaven with Him. in the NT somewhere, it says that God does not want ANYONE to perish, but that ALL be saved. Also Romans 8:38-39 says NOTHING can separate us from the Love of God. I think that one would have to be extremely seared in Heart in order to not hear the 'wooing' of the HS that would draw us back. The Pharisee's were pretty hard hearted, and stubborn.

 

[4uIAM]

There are tons of good articles here. Take a look at this one for this topic.


{Edit by Jesuslovesu:reason no links without permission}

 

[califlower]

If indeed the dictionary says *all* contempt for God is blasphemous, then I'll wager many of us are guilty here. I must humble myself here and say I have been, at times, guilty of a loss of faith and contempt for God that He does not reveal Himself but depends on my Faith, to wait on Him. But then I have to ask, isn't that the human condition? Who hasn't stopped at some point, to feel contempt that evil is allowed to run wild and man is allowed to have free will, to choose such evil things? It’s easy to be contemptuous that God is the only one who knows why all this is unfolding the way it is, as humans we want control; it takes patience to wait on His divine purpose, in which I have faith. But certainly, isn't it natural to feel at times some anger or resentment at Him for what appears even in scripture to be selfish reasons even in creating Man? I do not mean these statements to be blasphemous in and of themselves, but in fact, to express my sorrow at my own lack of faith at times, in He who has blessed me so mightily! How can I possibly doubt? Still, this life is so hard, we do. God's perfection in all this isn't human perfection; if we're guilty of doubting Him at times, even the best of us, we have to admit it to ourselves, and ask Him for forgiveness, perhaps not gloss over it every day - pretending as Peter did, to have Faith - to which Jesus said, "You will deny me three times before the rooster crows." Peter lost his nerve. So, I'm very glad I ran into this post today on this website. It calls into question what happens when we doubt, is to allow the Enemy to sneak in, and whisper untruths, and that works on the weak Christian just way too often.

The dictionary doesn't give us enough of a picture of what "blasphemy" really is, and Christian society has thrown this word about since the beginning... does anybody here at TalkJesus.com have a better sense of what it really means?

Isn't "blasphemy" also to just go against scripture, to go against God. all sin blasphemes the holy spirit, does it not? Certainly it grieves the Holy Spirit, and since the law embodies the nature of God, couldn't someone's bad behavior be called "blasphemous"? God bless you for allowing me to air these questions, because I'm in a particular space right now of questioning every shred of reality on this Earth, and how it relates to what has been promised by our Lord to us, for our Faith in Him, in the Kingdom of Heaven. It's very very hard lately for me to look at all this pain and suffering, and although I know it isn't God's fault, but ultimately man's or nature's way, I sometimes have to wonder why it's ever been allowed to exist in the first place. For instance, why Lucifer was allowed to continue once his unspeakable Evil was known by God; such beauty there might exist in Man, perhaps I don't know what beauty lies in wait for us and that it is God's wisdom upon which I must place my trust, hence, the word "Faith" - this is my problem, perhaps, that I can't imagine what justification any beauty could have because.... we are in the crucible, tested by fire, yes, by God. And the crucible yields the gold treasure God is looking for, in us, that is my understanding. All this is great, it is beautiful, yes, but at such a cost of so much evil, pain, and suffering on this Earth until then? As these days pass, and the evil comes to pass that is described in Daniel and Revelation, 2 Tim 3, and other passages - I wonder WHY? But then, I know that answer - who am I to ask God why? It leads straight back again in a circle: back to faith. Anybody have a way off this philosophical merry-go-round? In the Love of Christ, CaliFlower (The California Lilly)

 

[Amen!]

I've been impatient, I've questioned God's permissiveness for the evils and tragedies of the world, I've even entertained questions concerning why God started all of this and tried to wrench control of my life back or lost and neglected my faith. I've never been angry with God, but anger towards Him under the right circumstances probably isn't beyond me. These things are not contempt for God, though. To hold God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit in contempt means to despise Him. To willfully and joyfully disobey and disrespect Him.

Can you say you've actually hated God, Califlower? Have you delighted in your disobedience or willfully disrespected Him? From your comments, I can't detect a capacity to despise God enough to commit blasphemy. I can detect the fact that you are a repentant sinner. You're a forgiveable human, like the rest of us here at TJ. Let not your heart be troubled, Sister.

Amen!

 

[califlower]

When Faith sags, is it Blasphemy?

I've been impatient, I've questioned God's permissiveness for the evils and tragedies of the world, I've even entertained questions concerning why God started all of this and tried to wrench control of my life back or lost and neglected my faith. I've never been angry with God, but anger towards Him under the right circumstances probably isn't beyond me. These things are not contempt for God, though. To hold God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit in contempt means to despise Him. To willfully and joyfully disobey and disrespect Him.

Can you say you've actually hated God, Califlower? Have you delighted in your disobedience or willfully disrespected Him? From your comments, I can't detect a capacity to despise God enough to commit blasphemy. I can detect the fact that you are a repentant sinner. You're a forgiveable human, like the rest of us here at TJ. Let not your heart be troubled, Sister.

Amen!

Under the right circumstances, as you point out, I think we are ALL capable, so why would I be exempt? I have tried all my life to never hate anyone, especially God; I do not believe in "hate" and don't seem to have that within me at this point and time - YET - then again it's never been tested by Man. It's been tested by God, and hating God isn't a wise move is it? So I've held firmly onto my Faith and moved forward.... But am I capable of hate? Would I hate someone who slaughtered my family, or hurt my children in some way? Most certainly, I probably would. That's never happened, so I really don't know. I know I'd try to understand, pray, and forgive instead of hate anyone for anything they've done.. Sure, I'm a forgivable human as we *all are*, and capable of sin as we all are, that's a given. (Of course I have never "delighted" in my own disobedience, nor willfully disrespected God. That's real blasphemy, and not what I'm asking in my post.) We are ALL repentant sinners! *smile* So I shouldn't be singled out on that score, that statement can be made of every Christian here - unless we are in the presence of Christ Himself. Amen! I must say how much I appreciate your words to not be troubled - you are a kind, loving Christian sister to post this. But now I must express a great frustration and exasperation to be told to bury my head in the sand, as this world is in so much trouble right now, I'd have to close my eyes to Man and God and Earth to ignore it, and not be concerned - and yes - very "troubled" by it. I think any thinking Christians must be very troubled by these events, and waiting upon the Lord to deliver the Faithful in Him from this world...

In the Love of Jesus Christ, CaliFlower

 

[Amen!]

Cali, sweetie, where did you get the idea that I told you to bury your head in the sand and ignore the atrocities of this world? That's the last thing I would suggest. And if I caused you to feel singled out, please, please, accept my apology. My post was simply an attempt to comfort you.


GBU, Sister
Amen!

 

[BeneathRainbow]

Sorry folks, but I am still a bit confused after reading all your excellent posts on this subject. As a former christian, does the fact that I once had salvation and then rejected it, even though I was baptised in the Holy Spirit, constitute a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Is that why my heart is now hardened, have I committed the unforgivable sin.

 

[califlower]

Miss Understanding

Cali, sweetie, where did you get the idea that I told you to bury your head in the sand and ignore the atrocities of this world? That's the last thing I would suggest. And if I caused you to feel singled out, please, please, accept my apology. My post was simply an attempt to comfort you.


GBU, Sister
Amen!

My apologies, Amen! When you kindly said not to be troubled, it was indeed perhaps misinterpreted by me to mean not to concern myself with it all, which is most people's solution I might add! *smile* So I'm sorry for interpreting you that way, if that's not what you meant The phrase "bury my head in the sand" is perhaps a poor one, but it does imply that I would have to close my eyes to this.. and in NOT doing so, the evil which I see does shake my Faith, that God allows this to continue. Fact: I just have to hold on stronger to my conviction and the Love of the Lord Jesus in the face of the Enemy.

Thank you for all your encouragement and words of inspiration, Amen!, and your attempt to comfort me, my dear Christian sister. I guess "comfort" at this point, to me, means blindness; I can't honestly think anybody witnessing the events of the World as it is now could stay comfortable in the slightest. And perhaps we shouldn't be, if we read James 2 or 2 Timothy 3, it would suggest we stay uncomfortable and AWAY from these evils. :thumbs_up

God bless you, Amen! and thank you. Please forgive my wrongly using that phrase, or, for implying you would suggest that.

Love in Christ, CaliFlower :rose:

 

[califlower]

Sorry folks, but I am still a bit confused after reading all your excellent posts on this subject. As a former christian, does the fact that I once had salvation and then rejected it, even though I was baptised in the Holy Spirit, constitute a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Is that why my heart is now hardened, have I committed the unforgivable sin.

USEDTOBELIEVE: My question is "What does it matter?" if you aren't a believer? Why would "sin" matter to you? I can't believe God wouldn't take you back no matter WHAT YOU DID, because His word assures you, in Faith you are SAVED. That's why Jesus died. For your sins. That includes this. Isn't it cold out there without the Love of your Heavenly Father? Come back inside. It's nice and cozy warm here in the Love and Light of Jesus Christ! We're here to help you find that salvation, and joyous rapture of your heart to know you are loved, no matter what mistakes you make! READ THE PRODIGAL SON. That is one story that should really "get you" where you live? The Father has a celebration when his son returns! Certainly Jesus would celebrate your return to His flock!! *hug*

We love you - and so does Jesus. Give your heart to Him who loved you FIRST.
In Christ, CaliFlower

 

[imready4thelord]

USEDTOBELIEVE: My question is "What does it matter?" if you aren't a believer? Why would "sin" matter to you? I can't believe God wouldn't take you back no matter WHAT YOU DID, because His word assures you, in Faith you are SAVED. That's why Jesus died. For your sins. That includes this. Isn't it cold out there without the Love of your Heavenly Father? Come back inside. It's nice and cozy warm here in the Love and Light of Jesus Christ! We're here to help you find that salvation, and joyous rapture of your heart to know you are loved, no matter what mistakes you make! READ THE PRODIGAL SON. That is one story that should really "get you" where you live? The Father has a celebration when his son returns! Certainly Jesus would celebrate your return to His flock!! *hug*

We love you - and so does Jesus. Give your heart to Him who loved you FIRST.
In Christ, CaliFlower

I am afraid it does matter califlower

it says here in

Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


And God never changes so there are no exceptions to the rules

 

[califlower]

I am afraid it does matter califlower

it says here in

Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


And God never changes so there are no exceptions to the rules

So, let me get this straight? With Matthew, you're saying this man - and BILLIONS of others - are condemned? No chance of Salvation if they ever blaspheme the Holy Spirit? I would also expect you to give us an operational definition and solid example of "Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit", too, IMREADY4THELORD. Should they just give up Jesus? Is that what you're implying too by using this scripture alone without any reference? I'm very much looking forward to your answers, because you've certainly raised a lot of questions by bringing this part of the Bible to the table. Thank you! GBU, CaliFlower :rose:

 

[Gloria]

To: Used2believe

There will always be disputes and disagreement on this subject. However the BOTTOM LINE is : If you want to come back to the Lord You can. If you desire Him and he is convicting you, then you can be restored and have not commited the unpardonable sin. If you did, then you would not even be concerned about it or asking this question. You would not even want him or care anything about the Lord and I doubt you would be in a Christian chat room at all. I have known some who got away from the Lord but came back to Him. The enemy trys to convince many that they have commited this sin when they haven't, so they would not even try to seek His forgive and return to Him. So please listen and heed what I am saying : if you have any drawing toward Him at all, come back to Him NOW and give yourself to Him COMPLETELY , not just half way. He is merciful and forgiving. Dont put it off . He said I will not always strive with man, so dont put it off and lose the opportunity.
Thats all I have to say about it.

Revelation2
4Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.


Luke 15
18I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
19And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
20And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
21And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
22But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:
23And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:
24For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.

Sorry folks, but I am still a bit confused after reading all your excellent posts on this subject. As a former christian, does the fact that I once had salvation and then rejected it, even though I was baptised in the Holy Spirit, constitute a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Is that why my heart is now hardened, have I committed the unforgivable sin.

 

[Jesuslovesu]

I suggest everyone watch their tone with each other Thank you very much !


Gloria Great Post !!!! :thumbs_up

 

[imready4thelord]

So, let me get this straight? With Matthew, you're saying this man - and BILLIONS of others - are condemned? No chance of Salvation if they ever blaspheme the Holy Spirit? I would also expect you to give us an operational definition and solid example of "Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit", too, IMREADY4THELORD. Should they just give up Jesus? Is that what you're implying too by using this scripture alone without any reference? I'm very much looking forward to your answers, because you've certainly raised a lot of questions by bringing this part of the Bible to the table. Thank you! GBU, CaliFlower :rose:

With Matthew, you're saying this man - and BILLIONS of others - are condemned? No chance of Salvation if they ever blaspheme the Holy Spirit?This man and Billions upon Billions are condemned, if they ever blasphemed the Holy Ghost..Plain and simply no way around it!!!!


I would also expect you to give us an operational definition and solid example of "Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit"
blasphemy

noun
An act of disrespect or impiety toward something regarded as sacred: desecration, profanation, sacrilege, violation. See sacred/profane.
A profane or obscene term: curse, epithet, expletive, oath, swearword. Informal cuss. See decent/indecent, sacred/profane, words.

Should they just give up Jesus?
Humble and conscientious believers, at times are tempted to think they have committed the unpardonable sin, while those who have come the nearest to it, seldom have any fear about it. We may be sure that those who indeed repent and believe the gospel, have not committed this sin, or any other of the same kind; for repentance and faith are the special gifts of God, which he would not bestow on any man, if he were determined never to pardon him; and those who fear they have committed this sin, give a good sign that they have not. The trembling, contrite sinner, has the witness in himself that this is not his case.

Is that what you're implying too by using this scripture alone without any reference?
If you go to this scripture ....John 11:35.....It reads Jesus wept.Do you need other referance scriptures to tell you that Jesus cried?