Breakup . .

[bro Paul]

Dear KittyLinda, Thanks for expressing yourself. But you look a little bit pessimistic but I am not permmited to judge you. But all i have to say is that you need spiritual help very urgently. You need deliverance section to be conducted on you cos your problem is more than 80% spiritual. How I wish you know Dr Rebecca Brown, a medical doctor, former professional nurse, an evngelist and a deliverance minister based in United States. I recommend you to read her book, Delivered from the powers of Darkness. I am not living in US otherwise I would advise you to come for deliverance section and God will deliver you. I have seen that you love yourself too much, do not want to lose your boy friend and want to hold on to him despite all the advice given to you by us. Your faith is already shaky because your will is not strong to bear persecution,trials and difficulties. Know this, if you have been to hell, you will not be talking like this. Hell is not a prison and the lightest place in hell cannot be compared to all sufferings, difficulties, oppression, hardships you may have suffered. Hell is stinking, smelling like a dead rotting place, high temperatures of heat that is choking and you scarcely breath because there is no oxygen in Hell and they are choking all the time. The worms in hell does not die and crawl into your nose, eyes, ears and all your body cavities without stopping and do not die or get burnt. Again those convicted of fornication, adultery may be forced to have a sex section with demons in snake forms raping you with violence and no pity. Inside hell, there is no love, grace, mercy but only wickedness, curses, bitterness, cries and weeping all thru. There is no church, God or Holy Spirit in Hell and hence no love, grace, mercy or comfort. Thanks.

 

[KittyLinda]

Ummm
I'm not sure what you think Christianity is about...but it focuses on love. Loving others more than yourself.
Like your daughter...
She kinda needs that reassurance right now.

I'm not going to tell you that you are sinning...

But I will say that the course of action you have chosen probably isn't going to work for very long.

This Christian 'love' can also be some ink on a piece of paper and nothing more than this. My mother disowned me for nearly 8 years. That was resentment, not love. My pastor ordered me removed from the church staff, after they ‘discovered’ I was in a homosexual relationship. I worked for that church for nearly 5 years. That was not love.

This religion destroyed my first marriage, and is destroying my current relationship. That was not love. With all of that and I am still calling myself a Christian today, but my therapist wants me to start analyzing if religion is a positive force in my life. I left the Baptist church and became a Pentecostal, because I was seeking more spiritually, but maybe the problem lies within the Christian community itself and not a denomination. I do not fit well in the community. I am bi-sexual, and the community is full of bigotry and hatred at least towards people of my kind. On top of that, they are asking me to tear off my heart, and go naked in the desert, with no food and water. That's what they think I should do in this relationship. It is not fair. I have no problem with God or the bible actually but I can't move on and cut off my partner. I am very wired spiritually, so I can never be an atheist, but I am now considering moving to a different spiritualty that accepts me or my partner the way we are. I am having a faith crisis, and I am not a stranger to this situation actually. My whole life I could not stay single or celibate. It is what it is, and I can't change this because that is just who I am. I do not like being alone.

 

[KittyLinda]

Dear KittyLinda, Thanks for expressing yourself. But you look a little bit pessimistic but I am not permmited to judge you. But all i have to say is that you need spiritual help very urgently. You need deliverance section to be conducted on you cos your problem is more than 80% spiritual. How I wish you know Dr Rebecca Brown, a medical doctor, former professional nurse, an evngelist and a deliverance minister based in United States. I recommend you to read her book, Delivered from the powers of Darkness. I am not living in US otherwise I would advise you to come for deliverance section and God will deliver you. I have seen that you love yourself too much, do not want to lose your boy friend and want to hold on to him despite all the advice given to you by us. Your faith is already shaky because your will is not strong to bear persecution,trials and difficulties. Know this, if you have been to hell, you will not be talking like this. Hell is not a prison and the lightest place in hell cannot be compared to all sufferings, difficulties, oppression, hardships you may have suffered. Hell is stinking, smelling like a dead rotting place, high temperatures of heat that is choking and you scarcely breath because there is no oxygen in Hell and they are choking all the time. The worms in hell does not die and crawl into your nose, eyes, ears and all your body cavities without stopping and do not die or get burnt. Again those convicted of fornication, adultery may be forced to have a sex section with demons in snake forms raping you with violence and no pity. Inside hell, there is no love, grace, mercy but only wickedness, curses, bitterness, cries and weeping all thru. There is no church, God or Holy Spirit in Hell and hence no love, grace, mercy or comfort. Thanks.

Pastor, it is pointless talking to you. Also, Rebecca Brown is not a doctor. Her true name is Ruth Irene Bailey. She is a fraud, and she also does not have a book with that title. Fix your notes.

I need a moderator to close this thread. I do not want to hear this. When people start talking about hell and how all of this stuff will happen to me because I am a fornicator is just heartless and not right. I do not deserve such fate. In fact, nobody deserves this ever, and I could care less what you think I should do.

 

[Shutterbug]

Pastor, it is pointless talking to you. Also, Rebecca Brown is not a doctor. Her true name is Ruth Irene Bailey. She is a fraud, and she also does not have a book with that title. Fix your notes.

I need a moderator to close this thread. I do not want to hear this. When people start talking about hell and how all of this stuff will happen to me because I am a fornicator is just heartless and not right. I do not deserve such fate. In fact, nobody deserves this ever, and I could care less what you think I should do.

Hi kittyLinda. You have been through a lot. I was a bit harsh in my initial response to you a while ago. Trust me, there is no halo over my head.

Perhaps you could bounce a question off your former boyfriend along these lines: what kind of mind would it take to create a city from something the size of a basketball? Or, does the city exist solely by chance? I appreciate your field is art based. Don't worry as math and I were never close friends. I do some amateur photography and use Photoshop to retouch and resize pictures I post in emails or on Facebook.

If I can make a suggestion, try the daily devotionals on the Blue Letter Bible website. They are meant to encourage in a more passive manner. I wish you all the best in your walk with Jesus. Keep looking to him. He has promised never to leave you hanging without hope. Phil 4:8. Cheers, John

 

[bro Paul]

Dear KittyLinda, thanks for expressing yourself. Let me tell you, Dr. Rebecca Brown now married to Daniel Yoda, an American jew is not the person you are talking about. Its just another Rebecca Brown you are talking about. She was a former Nurse and now a medical doctor based in California. I have read two of her books, ''Delivererd from the powers of Darkness'' and ''A vessel of Honour''. Am not lying at all. I have the books with me live and have read them over and over. You are mistaken. All you said is just your warped mind. You have already left Christianity and that I should tell you clearly. You cant be a christian outside the bible and the church, and live and make your own rules and still want God to accept you and your reprobate and confused mind. Please read Revelation chapter 21 verse 8......''But cowards,(the fearful), traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral (fornicators), those who practice magic,those who worship idols, and all liars- the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulphur, which is the second death''( Good News Bible). Yes, God loves all mankind including you and your boyfriend. But God has set His standard not because of you but because of His righteous nature,justice, and holiness. The bible said in Acts 17:30-31...(Good News Bible version), '' God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now He commands all of them (mankind) everywhere to turn away from their evil ways. For He has fixed a day in which He will judge the whole world with justice by means of a man (Jesus Christ) He has chosen. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that man ( Jesus Christ) from death'' Let me tell you, you are too small to change God's standard. Jesus Christ told us in the gospel of Mathew to count the cost before choosing to follow Jesus Christ or becoming a christian. In the book of Timothy, bible said, let all that call the name of the lord, depart from iniquity, God knows those who are His and who belong to Him. Jesus Christ told Nicodemus, in John gospel chapter 3 from verse 3, you must be born again before you can see the kingdom of God. He told him clearly, you must be born of water and the Spirit before you can enter the kingdom of God. Read John 3;3-19. Whoever is born of God does not continue in sin and in transgression and iniquity and still want to be a christian. Romans 6; 11-14....'' In the same way,you are to think of yourselves as dead , so far as sin is concerned but living in fellowship with God through Christ Jesus. Sin must no longer rule in your mortal bodies,so that you obey the desires of your natural self. Nor must you surrender any part of yourselves to sin to be used for wicked purposes. Instead, give yourselves to God , as those who have brought from death to life, and surrender your whole being to Him (God) to be used for righteous purposes. Sin must not be your master, for you do not live under the law but under God's grace'' Also Titus 2; 11-13, reads,'' for God has revealed His grace for the salvation of the whole human race . That grace instructs us to give up ungodly living and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright , and godly lives in this world........ Apostle Paul said, how can we who have died to sin in Christ Jesus continue to live in sin deliberately, God forbid. Can we continue in sin so that grace can abound, no , God forbid. Christians are called to holy living and godliness for that is the evidence that we know God. Its a choice, its either Ms KittyLinda, you choose Jesus Christ or you choose the darkness, which is the Devil and his corrupt and sinful ways. God bless you richly Linda, for I do not hate or judge you but only wanted to enlighten you on the scriptures so that you know what you are doing. Jesus Christ was never silent on the subject of Hell, lake of fire and doom of sinners. Throughout the gospel Jesus Christ warned us on the dangers of allowing ourselves to be thrown into Hell when we chose to live in disobedience against God and His commandments. In Mark chapter 9; 43-48,..... Jesus said. I quote '' And if your eye makes you loose your faith, take it out ! It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with only one eye than to keep both eyes and be thrown into hell. There ''the worms that eat them never die, and the fire that burns them is never put out''. LInda , I have spoken enough. I leave you to your fate, for I have expounded the scriptures for to see that I am not telling lies and even the admin knows these biblical truths. Thank you KittyLinda.

 

[KittyLinda]

Dear KittyLinda, thanks for expressing yourself. Let me tell you, Dr. Rebecca Brown now married to Daniel Yoda, an American jew is not the person you are talking about. Its just another Rebecca Brown you are talking about. She was a former Nurse and now a medical doctor based in California. I have read two of her books, ''Delivererd from the powers of Darkness'' and ''A vessel of Honour''. Am not lying at all. I have the books with me live and have read them over and over. You are mistaken. All you said is just your warped mind. You have already left Christianity and that I should tell you clearly. You cant be a christian outside the bible and the church, and live and make your own rules and still want God to accept you and your reprobate and confused mind. Please read Revelation chapter 21 verse 8......''But cowards,(the fearful), traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral (fornicators), those who practice magic,those who worship idols, and all liars- the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulphur, which is the second death''( Good News Bible). Yes, God loves all mankind including you and your boyfriend. But God has set His standard not because of you but because of His righteous nature,justice, and holiness. The bible said in Acts 17:30-31...(Good News Bible version), '' God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now He commands all of them (mankind) everywhere to turn away from their evil ways. For He has fixed a day in which He will judge the whole world with justice by means of a man (Jesus Christ) He has chosen. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that man ( Jesus Christ) from death'' Let me tell you, you are too small to change God's standard. Jesus Christ told us in the gospel of Mathew to count the cost before choosing to follow Jesus Christ or becoming a christian. In the book of Timothy, bible said, let all that call the name of the lord, depart from iniquity, God knows those who are His and who belong to Him. Jesus Christ told Nicodemus, in John gospel chapter 3 from verse 3, you must be born again before you can see the kingdom of God. He told him clearly, you must be born of water and the Spirit before you can enter the kingdom of God. Read John 3;3-19. Whoever is born of God does not continue in sin and in transgression and iniquity and still want to be a christian. Romans 6; 11-14....'' In the same way,you are to think of yourselves as dead , so far as sin is concerned but living in fellowship with God through Christ Jesus. Sin must no longer rule in your mortal bodies,so that you obey the desires of your natural self. Nor must you surrender any part of yourselves to sin to be used for wicked purposes. Instead, give yourselves to God , as those who have brought from death to life, and surrender your whole being to Him (God) to be used for righteous purposes. Sin must not be your master, for you do not live under the law but under God's grace'' Also Titus 2; 11-13, reads,'' for God has revealed His grace for the salvation of the whole human race . That grace instructs us to give up ungodly living and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright , and godly lives in this world........ Apostle Paul said, how can we who have died to sin in Christ Jesus continue to live in sin deliberately, God forbid. Can we continue in sin so that grace can abound, no , God forbid. Christians are called to holy living and godliness for that is the evidence that we know God. Its a choice, its either Ms KittyLinda, you choose Jesus Christ or you choose the darkness, which is the Devil and his corrupt and sinful ways. God bless you richly Linda, for I do not hate or judge you but only wanted to enlighten you on the scriptures so that you know what you are doing. Jesus Christ was never silent on the subject of Hell, lake of fire and doom of sinners. Throughout the gospel Jesus Christ warned us on the dangers of allowing ourselves to be thrown into Hell when we chose to live in disobedience against God and His commandments. In Mark chapter 9; 43-48,..... Jesus said. I quote '' And if your eye makes you loose your faith, take it out ! It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with only one eye than to keep both eyes and be thrown into hell. There ''the worms that eat them never die, and the fire that burns them is never put out''. LInda , I have spoken enough. I leave you to your fate, for I have expounded the scriptures for to see that I am not telling lies and even the admin knows these biblical truths. Thank you KittyLinda.

hi Pastor. I am not in a position to correct you on anything you said. Yes, I believe in hell. Yes, I fear God, and I do not want to be in that place, even though I do not agree with your previous description of hell because I do not believe demons are raping people. Is that biblical? But that does not matter anyway.

I wish to be with Christ and I know that I will be with him. I love Jesus. I understand that I sinned by having sex outside of marriage, and by continually doing this after coming to God. I would not think twice about being in this relationship, if it is not for my daughter. I can move on with someone who shares my beliefs but I can never accept to have this mess for the rest of my life.

Also, I believe God may look at this differently. Perhaps, we are already married in the eye of the lord and I can’t say that is how it is, but any desperate Christian mom in my situation wants to have some hope that God will forgive her. I am not someone who believes that you can’t lose your salvation after being saved. I know that in the past I was not under God’s protection anymore, and this is why my life turned upside down.

Also, I could probably live in peace, if he decided to just move on with this sexy woman, and left me alone, but I do not agree that he can be in my daughter’s life, if he just wishes to be with a woman whom he left in the first place to be with me. That is just not acceptable. This woman hates my guts. There is no way ever I can forgive him for this. I can’t imagine how this will be 5 or 10 years from now when I move on with someone else, and he is with this woman. One of my friends is in this situation, and that is not something I can live with. So, I want to work on getting back with him. If he wants to move on, then I am actually thinking about migrating to Canada. Trust me, he won’t see his daughter ever, even If had to live on the run. I do not agree with these man-laws. My daughter needs her father who is in heaven. I do not agree that he can be in-and-out of my life whenever he wishes.

- PS. Ruth Irene Bailey is the same person. She is the author of 'He Came to Set the Captives Free.' She changed her name to Rebecca Brown. Document No: VCV 009038/Superior Court of California. Look it up. She got her license revoked by the State of Indiana a long time ago, so it is not ok that she still calls herself a doctor because she can’t practice medicine legally anymore. This is what happens when you say someone’s mental illness is caused by demons. Also, she has done more than this to be unworthy of your trust, and lots of people talked about her in the past. Her name comes within Pentecostal circles. I am not a classical Pentecostal, and do not support these radical ideologies that all mental disorders are caused by demons/evil spirits.

 

[KittyLinda]

Hi kittyLinda. You have been through a lot. I was a bit harsh in my initial response to you a while ago. Trust me, there is no halo over my head.

Perhaps you could bounce a question off your former boyfriend along these lines: what kind of mind would it take to create a city from something the size of a basketball? Or, does the city exist solely by chance? I appreciate your field is art based. Don't worry as math and I were never close friends. I do some amateur photography and use Photoshop to retouch and resize pictures I post in emails or on Facebook.

If I can make a suggestion, try the daily devotionals on the Blue Letter Bible website. They are meant to encourage in a more passive manner. I wish you all the best in your walk with Jesus. Keep looking to him. He has promised never to leave you hanging without hope. Phil 4:8. Cheers, John

He is more of an agnostic is the way he identifies himself, and trust me I just learned the hard way that I can't talk with him about God anymore. I just want to him to accept me, and I will keep my mouth shut from now on about my personal beliefs. Only bad things happen when I try to talk with him about God.

Also, he once said that maybe there is a God who created all this, but he said he is very sure the God of the bible does not exist. You know how it is with these unbelievers. They just do not like our God.

- PS. I am very addicted to photography, and I have been using Adobe Creative Suite for a very long time, and Photoshop I used for probably over 14 years now. It is part of my job but not totally focused on these apps and Photoshop surely does way more than retouching and resizing. It very powerful app and does wonderful artistic things.

 

[Andyindauk]

He is more of an agnostic is the way he identifies himself, and trust me I just learned the hard way that I can't talk with him about God anymore. I just want to him to accept me, and I will keep my mouth shut from now on about my personal beliefs. Only bad things happen when I try to talk with him about God.

Also, he once said that maybe there is a God who created all this, but he said he is very sure the God of the bible does not exist. You know how it is with these unbelievers. They just do not like our God.

- PS. I am very addicted to photography, and I have been using Adobe Creative Suite for a very long time, and Photoshop I used for probably over 14 years now. It is part of my job but not totally focused on these apps and Photoshop surely does way more than retouching and resizing. It very powerful app and does wonderful artistic things.

Kitty I was really depressed and disheartened reading your last few posts. I've really come to like you and follow you with interest. I'm over double your age and I can look back and reflect at my life and development over the years and a lot of my struggles, ups and downs and I can almost see you following in my footsteps. I don't have gay tendencies and thankfully my mental health is OK but my Christian life has been a true rollercoaster ride, dogged by my impetuous character, wanting instant results now rather than waiting on God, compromise, sin and poor choices in relationships, again due to not waiting upon God. You had been making such progress, really encouraging people and giving some pretty forthright and good posts and advice and encouragement. You seemed happier, more contented in yourself. Please, please, please don't let slip ups cause you to chuck the baby out with the bathwater.

One verse that both encourages and troubles me is Matthew 19:8. It's Jesus's teaching on divorce. He's basically saying that God as much as He hated it, was forced to allow divorce otherwise His precious people would have turned completely against Him, and He just couldn't bear that. I take from that verse that if you want to live a life of compromise, sin and still love and serve Him, God will take that. So why is it troubling? Because although still in touch with God, you'll not have the wonderful, exciting, Spirit filled relationship with Him. He'll always feel distant and your life will stumble from crisis to catastrophe much like Jonah's in the Bible. That's not the lifestyle God wants for you: He thinks you're better than that and deserve so much more.

I can only urge you not to follow in my footsteps, but recognise that God loves you with a limitless love that cost Him His son and yet such is His love, God viewed that price as a bargain! God is your creator, provider, saviour, best friend, protector, adores you more than all others combined. He feels your pain and wants to take it away but He needs your unwaning love and devotion.

Please, please, talk to Him, unload, tell Him you love Him, how you feel, your doubts, troubles and issues and ask God to deal with them. God loves praise, tell Him what it is about Him you love so much, thank Him for .... (long list). Just keep chatting to Him.

I'm not going to tell you to ditch the weed or end a destructive relationship that seems to have screwed you up more than all the others put together. That's for you to work out with God. You can become a strong, Spirit filled woman, exuding the joy and love of God. Probably mental health issues will keep rearing it's ugly head. Paul talked about a thorn in his side; some think that he was referring to a person, I think maybe he was talking about his mental health; I don't know but maybe it applies.

I'm praying for you, praying that the haze lifts and that you can see the glory of God and become that strong, God loving mother of your daughter, leading her by example to an eternal life giving decision and relationship with our God. If you want to chat further please, please PM me and I'll get back to you.

Take care lil sis. I love you,

Andy xxx

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Dear dear Lord God, please, please, my poor sweet sister Linda is really going through the mill at the moment. Please get inside her and reveal to her just some of your glory, light, love and majesty, give her the experience of your love and care that seems to have dwindled of late. Reveal to her how you want to take her life and transform it, releasing her from everything that seems to be dragging her down. Please Lord, show her your way, how wonderful it is Lord. I pray dear Lord you can deaden her sinful tendencies and replace them with your love, your Holy Spirit.

Lord I love you God. Thank you for the way you've helped, guided, protected me. I know dear Lord that you have the same incomprehendible love of Linda that have for me. I pray Lord God that you'll do for her what you've done for me, for which Lord I will be eternally grateful; and I mean eternally!

Love you God. Thank you, thank you, thank you.


Amen

 

[Shutterbug]

He is more of an agnostic is the way he identifies himself, and trust me I just learned the hard way that I can't talk with him about God anymore. I just want to him to accept me, and I will keep my mouth shut from now on about my personal beliefs. Only bad things happen when I try to talk with him about God.

Also, he once said that maybe there is a God who created all this, but he said he is very sure the God of the bible does not exist. You know how it is with these unbelievers. They just do not like our God.

- PS. I am very addicted to photography, and I have been using Adobe Creative Suite for a very long time, and Photoshop I used for probably over 14 years now. It is part of my job but not totally focused on these apps and Photoshop surely does way more than retouching and resizing. It very powerful app and does wonderful artistic things.

Good morning KittyLinda;

Some people can be like that. Avoiding the topic with him is far better than inviting trouble. Being a good role model through adversity will sometimes cause a change in someone's attitude. And waiting for an opportunity may be a wiser decision. Keep looking to Jesus and continue to seek his will and wisdom for your life. I agree that it may be very difficult when standing up to your waist in alligators to remember that your objective is to drain the swamp. Have you tried out the Blue Letter Bible devotional? No worries if you have not as it was only a suggestion. It's fine if you have other resources.

You're quite right in that Photoshop can do far more than my limited usage. My daughter-in-law passed out in a store earlier this year and fell striking her head on a shelf or some thing like it opening a gash from an inch below her scalp down across an eye lid. About a week later, she posted her picture on Facebook and I removed most of her injury and a few blemishes giving her a chuckle. I also have Lightroom, but I find its navigation methodology daunting. I prefer taking landscape pictures and my only selfie is of me removing snow with a snow blower. I have also taken time lapse pictures as well. I use my cell phone a fair bit only because it fits in my shirt pocket whereas my camera does not. Despite the capabilities of Photoshop and other apps like it, a bad picture remains a bad picture. Cheers.

 

[Br. Bear]

Good morning KittyLinda;

Some people can be like that. Avoiding the topic with him is far better than inviting trouble. Being a good role model through adversity will sometimes cause a change in someone's attitude. And waiting for an opportunity may be a wiser decision. Keep looking to Jesus and continue to seek his will and wisdom for your life. I agree that it may be very difficult when standing up to your waist in alligators to remember that your objective is to drain the swamp. Have you tried out the Blue Letter Bible devotional? No worries if you have not as it was only a suggestion. It's fine if you have other resources.

You're quite right in that Photoshop can do far more than my limited usage. My daughter-in-law passed out in a store earlier this year and fell striking her head on a shelf or some thing like it opening a gash from an inch below her scalp down across an eye lid. About a week later, she posted her picture on Facebook and I removed most of her injury and a few blemishes giving her a chuckle. I also have Lightroom, but I find its navigation methodology daunting. I prefer taking landscape pictures and my only selfie is of me removing snow with a snow blower. I have also taken time lapse pictures as well. I use my cell phone a fair bit only because it fits in my shirt pocket whereas my camera does not. Despite the capabilities of Photoshop and other apps like it, a bad picture remains a bad picture. Cheers.

some wise words in that, @KittyLinda


Bless you ....><>

 

[bro Paul]

hi Pastor. I am not in a position to correct you on anything you said. Yes, I believe in hell. Yes, I fear God, and I do not want to be in that place, even though I do not agree with your previous description of hell because I do not believe demons are raping people. Is that biblical? But that does not matter anyway.

I wish to be with Christ and I know that I will be with him. I love Jesus. I understand that I sinned by having sex outside of marriage, and by continually doing this after coming to God. I would not think twice about being in this relationship, if it is not for my daughter. I can move on with someone who shares my beliefs but I can never accept to have this mess for the rest of my life.

Also, I believe God may look at this differently. Perhaps, we are already married in the eye of the lord and I can’t say that is how it is, but any desperate Christian mom in my situation wants to have some hope that God will forgive her. I am not someone who believes that you can’t lose your salvation after being saved. I know that in the past I was not under God’s protection anymore, and this is why my life turned upside down.

Also, I could probably live in peace, if he decided to just move on with this sexy woman, and left me alone, but I do not agree that he can be in my daughter’s life, if he just wishes to be with a woman whom he left in the first place to be with me. That is just not acceptable. This woman hates my guts. There is no way ever I can forgive him for this. I can’t imagine how this will be 5 or 10 years from now when I move on with someone else, and he is with this woman. One of my friends is in this situation, and that is not something I can live with. So, I want to work on getting back with him. If he wants to move on, then I am actually thinking about migrating to Canada. Trust me, he won’t see his daughter ever, even If had to live on the run. I do not agree with these man-laws. My daughter needs her father who is in heaven. I do not agree that he can be in-and-out of my life whenever he wishes.

- PS. Ruth Irene Bailey is the same person. She is the author of 'He Came to Set the Captives Free.' She changed her name to Rebecca Brown. Document No: VCV 009038/Superior Court of California. Look it up. She got her license revoked by the State of Indiana a long time ago, so it is not ok that she still calls herself a doctor because she can’t practice medicine legally anymore. This is what happens when you say someone’s mental illness is caused by demons. Also, she has done more than this to be unworthy of your trust, and lots of people talked about her in the past. Her name comes within Pentecostal circles. I am not a classical Pentecostal, and do not support these radical ideologies that all mental disorders are caused by demons/evil spirits.

Dear KittyLinda, Thanks for your timely reply. Am very sorry maybe to be a little strict on you but in my spirit I just love you with love of Jesus and don't want you to be lost.Thanks for the updated information on Rebecca Brown actually I have heard about it some years ago. I do not agree that all mental illnesses are caused by demons because its not biblical. In her books, she did not say so but maybe with time her perception may have changed. I also learnt her MD certificate was withdrawn but I believe its an act of serious persecution. Rebecca has gone thru a lot in life resulting from a agent of darkness she helped to be delivered from the kingdom of darkness. So the occult group came against her from all sides just to silence her and discredit her from practicing medicine. Thanks for the information dear Linda. Secondly, the story of a demon raping a lady in Hell is a personal account of somebody who the Lord Jesus took to Hell and showed her what happens there. It was written in a book and its not open for your believing them but its a matter of personal faith and its very particular to a lady in Hell and applied to every one in Hell. Its just a glimpse of how demons torture people in Hell who committed sins and found themselves in Hell. Our Lord Jesus was not silent in the gospels about Hell , He warned us that Hell is a place of torment, weeping, gnashing of teeth, lack of water, hotness, e.t.c. but full of curses, wickedness, hatred, bitterness towards God, e.t.c. I want to tell you that by God's grace , you will not go to Hell because God loves you and sent His son to die for you and your daughter, and even your daughter's father. I like your decision of stopping talking to him about church, God and your believes and faith for now. Just leave him for now, but keep showing him love of God, being patient and praying for him quietly. I believe that one day, the Holy Spirit will bring him to Jesus. Your decision to migrate to Canada is another thing that will bring a kind of fresh air to your life for now. I will be praying for you too. Lets keep the door of communication open at all times. How is your daughter doing too , may God protect and preserve her in Jesus name. Keep your mind focused on Jesus and His love and care for you. You have gone thru a lot in life and I pray you will come out stronger and happier for it. I love you with Jesus love. Try and find happiness, fulfillment in your career and get busy too to occupy yourself. But I advice you to continue attending church, fellowship, bible study and prayer meetings cos such meetings will sharpen your faith, prayer life and spiritual life. Please I beg you to forgive your mother, father and your boyfriend as well so that you can find forgiveness from God too and find internal peace and joy. Your mother and father reactions towards you are just normal human emotions being displayed by parents who got disappointed that their daughter kind of missed it in life and left the path they wanted her to follow. Their reactions are not a standard behaviours in christianity or a bible standard. Thank God you are now a single parent and will got to know better when your daughter tend to leave your expected pattern for her. Pls forgive your parents because they over reacted and allowed their emotions to take a good chunk of their behaviour towards you. I understand how you feel but please try and forgive them and move forward in life. Maybe with time both of you can be reconciled again. Time is the healer of wounds. I pray that God will heal your wounds and comfort you greatly. Remain blessed. Bro. Paul.

 

[Br. Bear]

He is more of an agnostic is the way he identifies himself, and trust me I just learned the hard way that I can't talk with him about God anymore. I just want to him to accept me, and I will keep my mouth shut from now on about my personal beliefs. Only bad things happen when I try to talk with him about God.

Greetings Linda,

one thing i would like to advise you on is Do Not Make Ultimatums or in other words, don't speak finality about matters, unless of course, it is concerning the goodness of the LORD.

As for not talking to him about God, can i suggest that you alter that? Perhaps talk instead about beautiful things that you know are to God's glory and praise. You CAN let the Lord do His bit in His way with your simple service in this. There are so many lovely things that you can talk about. Especially the wonder of the little one you have with you and all the special things you will notice as she grows. Talk about her little hands and how absolutely amazing they are and what they can do... and you could extend it to a generalization of all hands... and perhaps go on to hint at how hands are best used for good cos you (and he) don't want any bad for your daughter... and also how sad it is that people do use such incredibly wonderful things like hands for no good... but do remember to leave a conversation with and on a good note.... again, about perhaps your little one's little hands. That is only one example of how you can share about God without pushing God. All around there are beuatiful things and without rambling on too much, may i let you know that each and every day, the LORD has prepared for you countless precious moments and it is my prayer right now that you will see and rejoice in as many as possible.
Yes, there are grotty things all the time but we do not have to focus on them...

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Philippians 4:8


Bless you ....><>

 

[KittyLinda]

Kitty I was really depressed and disheartened reading your last few posts. I've really come to like you and follow you with interest. I'm over double your age and I can look back and reflect at my life and development over the years and a lot of my struggles, ups and downs and I can almost see you following in my footsteps. I don't have gay tendencies and thankfully my mental health is OK but my Christian life has been a true rollercoaster ride, dogged by my impetuous character, wanting instant results now rather than waiting on God, compromise, sin and poor choices in relationships, again due to not waiting upon God. You had been making such progress, really encouraging people and giving some pretty forthright and good posts and advice and encouragement. You seemed happier, more contented in yourself. Please, please, please don't let slip ups cause you to chuck the baby out with the bathwater.

One verse that both encourages and troubles me is Matthew 19:8. It's Jesus's teaching on divorce. He's basically saying that God as much as He hated it, was forced to allow divorce otherwise His precious people would have turned completely against Him, and He just couldn't bear that. I take from that verse that if you want to live a life of compromise, sin and still love and serve Him, God will take that. So why is it troubling? Because although still in touch with God, you'll not have the wonderful, exciting, Spirit filled relationship with Him. He'll always feel distant and your life will stumble from crisis to catastrophe much like Jonah's in the Bible. That's not the lifestyle God wants for you: He thinks you're better than that and deserve so much more.

I can only urge you not to follow in my footsteps, but recognise that God loves you with a limitless love that cost Him His son and yet such is His love, God viewed that price as a bargain! God is your creator, provider, saviour, best friend, protector, adores you more than all others combined. He feels your pain and wants to take it away but He needs your unwaning love and devotion.

Please, please, talk to Him, unload, tell Him you love Him, how you feel, your doubts, troubles and issues and ask God to deal with them. God loves praise, tell Him what it is about Him you love so much, thank Him for .... (long list). Just keep chatting to Him.

I'm not going to tell you to ditch the weed or end a destructive relationship that seems to have screwed you up more than all the others put together. That's for you to work out with God. You can become a strong, Spirit filled woman, exuding the joy and love of God. Probably mental health issues will keep rearing it's ugly head. Paul talked about a thorn in his side; some think that he was referring to a person, I think maybe he was talking about his mental health; I don't know but maybe it applies.

I'm praying for you, praying that the haze lifts and that you can see the glory of God and become that strong, God loving mother of your daughter, leading her by example to an eternal life giving decision and relationship with our God. If you want to chat further please, please PM me and I'll get back to you.

Take care lil sis. I love you,

Andy xxx

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Dear dear Lord God, please, please, my poor sweet sister Linda is really going through the mill at the moment. Please get inside her and reveal to her just some of your glory, light, love and majesty, give her the experience of your love and care that seems to have dwindled of late. Reveal to her how you want to take her life and transform it, releasing her from everything that seems to be dragging her down. Please Lord, show her your way, how wonderful it is Lord. I pray dear Lord you can deaden her sinful tendencies and replace them with your love, your Holy Spirit.

Lord I love you God. Thank you for the way you've helped, guided, protected me. I know dear Lord that you have the same incomprehendible love of Linda that have for me. I pray Lord God that you'll do for her what you've done for me, for which Lord I will be eternally grateful; and I mean eternally!

Love you God. Thank you, thank you, thank you.


Amen

Thank you. I am sorry to hear you are depressed reading my last posts. There is no joy in my life now, and I am considering not posting anything for few months. So many people are trying to help me, but I still feel like walking on thin ice after this breakup. I prayed too that God's will shall be done no matter what I feel now or 10 years from now, but my heart is really focused on getting back with my bf, because I really feel I am losing control of my life again. I told my therapist about these self-destructive things I did recently and the cutting. I want to have some stability, so I do not end up in the psychiatric hospital again, and If I continue doing destructive things, I may lose even my daughter. I can't risk this.

Perhaps, I am not really a fully converted Christian yet, because I really can't move on, but I also won't regret much, if he wants to move on with this woman. After all, I am only someone who crossed his life during a really bad time in his life, and perhaps this is what I deserve, because I broke this woman's heart when I slept with him before knowing much about what was going on.

God bless.

 

[Andyindauk]

Thank you. I am sorry to hear you are depressed reading my last posts. There is no joy in my life now, and I am considering not posting anything for few months. So many people are trying to help me, but I still feel like walking on thin ice after this breakup. I prayed too that God's will shall be done no matter what I feel now or 10 years from now, but my heart is really focused on getting back with my bf, because I really feel I am losing control of my life again. I told my therapist about these self-destructive things I did recently and the cutting. I want to have some stability, so I do not end up in the psychiatric hospital again, and If I continue doing destructive things, I may lose even my daughter. I can't risk this.

Perhaps, I am not really a fully converted Christian yet, because I really can't move on, but I also won't regret much, if he wants to move on with this woman. After all, I am only someone who crossed his life during a really bad time in his life, and perhaps this is what I deserve, because I broke this woman's heart when I slept with him before knowing much about what was going on.

God bless.

Awwww ... Kitty, poor lil you, I just want to give you a massive socially distanced hug and cuddle. I just wish that I could make it all better. I can't, but I know someone who can. First though can I correct you on one point in your post, lil sis? You are a fully paid up converted Christian. Paid up? Yes, Jesus paid your subs. for life, your name is in indelible ink in The Lamb's Book of Life.

I want to try to bring some of your complex life into focus if that's OK? If you look dispassionately from the outside looking in, you'll see three priorities to really concentrate upon. Your faith and relationship with God, your daughter and your mental health. Prayer and keep praying, not just asking but praising and thanking. Job had his family and all he owned wiped out in a week and he himself looked like a donner kebab, and still he had plenty to thank and praise God for Job 19:25 and in the New Testament, Acts 16:25 Paul and Silas in prison. I promise you that through the murky mist of mental health, prayer and praise will get through and the rewards and blessings will be fantastic!!

You rightly say your sweet daughter is priority. She needs a stable loving mum that will give her the comfort and happiness to cope with her life and pressures that she'll have to face when she starts making friends, going to school and growing up. A self destructive mum is unhelpful and likely to cause her similar stress levels that you had to cope with when you were little.

Your mental health is worrying, if you're self harming then that tells me the meds aren't doing the job they are supposed to. Please have a word with your specialist.

I'm also wondering if your choice of boyfriend is affected by these self-destructive tendencies? Maybe a good time to give dating a rest for a few months, think there's more pressing issues in your life at the moment. I'm pretty sure God's got a gorgeous hunk lined up for you who'll be an amazing enhancement to your life and walk with Him. To have a husband that's trying to love you like Jesus loves the Church, praying together and encouraging each other with shared passages from the Bible and having a husband that's in tune with, led by and full of the wisdom of the Holy Spirit is like nothing you've ever experienced before. But if the current guy's hanging about then that's going to stymie God's choice.

I am praying for you, three times today and I ain't finished yet! Please please reach out to God and surrender to His will.

God bless you sweet sis xxx

 

[FullArmorofGod]

Brothers and sisters. It is over. My boyfriend broke up with me. I told him the other day how he needs to accept Christ as his Lord and savior, and that it is not OK with God to continue living together, and he left. I’m heartbroken. These past three days were very tormenting.

He changed his relationship status today on Facebook. It seems he made his mind to move on. I feel crushed. I am not going to participate in any drama, and I pray he would do the same, because it is very crucial for our child. My heart is grieving for our daughter, but the Holy Spirit is guiding me through this, and I do not want to grieve for too long, because I want my mind focused on God. I want to lift my spirit and picture my life in a different way. I have always loved Jesus. God has a plan for me.

Please, keep us in your prayers.

What did you expect? If you Bible thump people rebel. If you were my gf and bible thumping about my not believing in God enough or brow beating, I would leave too. While I believe that you had good intentions, leading by example is a better alternative.

A girl did something similar and i put her on ice. I just withdrew and she cried and apologized. She made like what I do wasn't enough so, ok, I will go. Her tune changed fast.

Believing in God and christ doesn't mean spineless coward and asexual. Google stat on porn and christian men. Its appalling. Its a example of a dead bedroom and what's currently wrong right now.

Take a step back. Dive deeper into your faith in God. Double down. In a LTR invite a man to church. Lead by example. The bible speaks about a virtuous woman. I am closer to forty than 20 and I've never seen that EVER. On mother's day, there's sermons of how to be a better beta. On fathers day, more sermons about men needing to do better. There's a lot of reasons why guys are getting away from the church.

 

[KittyLinda]

What did you expect? If you Bible thump people rebel. If you were my gf and bible thumping about my not believing in God enough or brow beating, I would leave too. While I believe that you had good intentions, leading by example is a better alternative.

A girl did something similar and i put her on ice. I just withdrew and she cried and apologized. She made like what I do wasn't enough so, ok, I will go. Her tune changed fast.

Believing in God and christ doesn't mean spineless coward and asexual. Google stat on porn and christian men. Its appalling. Its a example of a dead bedroom and what's currently wrong right now.

Take a step back. Dive deeper into your faith in God. Double down. In a LTR invite a man to church. Lead by example. The bible speaks about a virtuous woman. I am closer to forty than 20 and I've never seen that EVER. On mother's day, there's sermons of how to be a better beta. On fathers day, more sermons about men needing to do better. There's a lot of reasons why guys are getting away from the church.

He threatened many times to leave, and he did not until now, and I was not sure he would actually risk it again. It took us nearly 4 months the first time, and we almost ended it, because he was seeing this same woman he is with now. I have a low self-esteem so whatever he thinks I must do, I need to accept it.

I was so naïve to think he would come with me to church or try to read the bible. I was a backslider, and he was living with me. I wanted to attend church, get in touch with my Christian family again, worship God, and read my bible. I was doing some of these things, but I was also sinning continually by having sex with him. God is clear about this.

It felt so hypocritical, so I had to finally tell him that I am sinning by doing this. We fought many times about this, and our love was dying actually. He threatened to leave, if we live separately. I admit that I actually did tell him to leave back then, because I was very very angry, and that is why he told everyone that it was me who broke up with him, but when I said that, I also said if he wishes to be with me, then we need to think about a wedding soon, because I can’t have sex while still claiming that I am a Christian. He did promise a ring, but I got overconfident, and I pushed him away. I am an idiot. I thought he would try to become a Christian for me. I told him lately that I am not sure I want to be a Christian, but that also was a bad idea, because he just wants me to keep it for myself, and I failed so many times to do that. I do not think twice about what is in my mind or heart. I just say it. Men do that often, but most women do not think like that and I guess it is time to think twice about what I say since we believe in different things.

 

[KittyLinda]

Awwww ... Kitty, poor lil you, I just want to give you a massive socially distanced hug and cuddle. I just wish that I could make it all better. I can't, but I know someone who can. First though can I correct you on one point in your post, lil sis? You are a fully paid up converted Christian. Paid up? Yes, Jesus paid your subs. for life, your name is in indelible ink in The Lamb's Book of Life.

I want to try to bring some of your complex life into focus if that's OK? If you look dispassionately from the outside looking in, you'll see three priorities to really concentrate upon. Your faith and relationship with God, your daughter and your mental health. Prayer and keep praying, not just asking but praising and thanking. Job had his family and all he owned wiped out in a week and he himself looked like a donner kebab, and still he had plenty to thank and praise God for Job 19:25 and in the New Testament, Acts 16:25 Paul and Silas in prison. I promise you that through the murky mist of mental health, prayer and praise will get through and the rewards and blessings will be fantastic!!

You rightly say your sweet daughter is priority. She needs a stable loving mum that will give her the comfort and happiness to cope with her life and pressures that she'll have to face when she starts making friends, going to school and growing up. A self destructive mum is unhelpful and likely to cause her similar stress levels that you had to cope with when you were little.

Your mental health is worrying, if you're self harming then that tells me the meds aren't doing the job they are supposed to. Please have a word with your specialist.

I'm also wondering if your choice of boyfriend is affected by these self-destructive tendencies? Maybe a good time to give dating a rest for a few months, think there's more pressing issues in your life at the moment. I'm pretty sure God's got a gorgeous hunk lined up for you who'll be an amazing enhancement to your life and walk with Him. To have a husband that's trying to love you like Jesus loves the Church, praying together and encouraging each other with shared passages from the Bible and having a husband that's in tune with, led by and full of the wisdom of the Holy Spirit is like nothing you've ever experienced before. But if the current guy's hanging about then that's going to stymie God's choice.

I am praying for you, three times today and I ain't finished yet! Please please reach out to God and surrender to His will.

God bless you sweet sis xxx

Thank you so much. I changed the meds few times already within a month. I am upset with my therapist, because she did not agree that I can use the meds from 5 years ago.

I do not feel my heart is fully surrendered to God, because the things he said to me when he came the other day, and I really want to accept it or that is it for us, but I know it is not right with God. I’d prefer to PM you about what he said. I just do not want to mention it here. I do not wish to encourage others to sin or think that it is ok.

God bless,

 

[FullArmorofGod]

He threatened many times to leave, and he did not until now, and I was not sure he would actually risk it again. It took us nearly 4 months the first time, and we almost ended it, because he was seeing this same woman he is with now. I have a low self-esteem so whatever he thinks I must do, I need to accept it.

Assuming your avi is 1) you 2) recently taken pic, you are cute, and you will meet somebody else who is a better alternative. Contrary to operation evil, Oprah, and girl power promos in society, your youth doesn't grow back. A simple online search from my high school year book is not pretty. A tell tale sign of chase bad boys and random baby daddy. No man wants to be plan B nor fix the damage done by some other idiot. Cut all contact. Move on. The sec a girl says ex bf or this guy friend, she's somebody casual. Not taken serious. I am not a cuck. I am not plan Z when Tyrone and Chad stop coming over. Choose your destiny.

I was so naïve to think he would come with me to church or try to read the bible. I was a backslider, and he was living with me. I wanted to attend church, get in touch with my Christian family again, worship God, and read my bible. I was doing some of these things, but I was also sinning continually by having sex with him. God is clear about this.

why live with a man you are not married to? The most off putting aspects of dating Christian women is the proclivity to pick up and choose aspects of Christian life that are conveniently self serving. No **** you have sex with. Muslims are hardcore to the point of abstaining and obscuring women in avoiding temptations (like it or not). Church use to segregate men and women to avoid hedonism and temptations. Here we are today.

It felt so hypocritical, so I had to finally tell him that I am sinning by doing this. We fought many times about this, and our love was dying actually. He threatened to leave, if we live separately. I admit that I actually did tell him to leave back then, because I was very very angry, and that is why he told everyone that it was me who broke up with him, but when I said that, I also said if he wishes to be with me, then we need to think about a wedding soon, because I can’t have sex while still claiming that I am a Christian.

Its a bit late for that now. Ultimatums are never a good idea. A classic example of the following wouod be, i don't date women who are in contact with their ex bf. Its not up for debate. Can hangout casually but not exclusivity.

No ultomatums. I don't commit to women who only have guy friends. There is no debate. Find your prerequisite and syand by to the end. Forget hypocrisy. Just imagine telling a man, i had sex with my ex bf, and I make you wait till marriage. This is where ghosting comes in. Srs.

He did promise a ring, but I got overconfident, and I pushed him away. I am an idiot. I thought he would try to become a Christian for me. I told him lately that I am not sure I want to be a Christian, but that also was a bad idea, because he just wants me to keep it for myself, and I failed so many times to do that. I do not think twice about what is in my mind or heart. I just say it. Men do that often, but most women do not think like that and I guess it is time to think twice about what I say since we believe in different things.

I met a girl at my gym. I met a girl at my church.

They couldn't be more different. There's a biblical passage on virtuous woman and her worth. I've never know that not in the west where debauchery is common practice.

You sound confused. Your faith wavered because of a guy who was willing to have sex with you and promise you all sorts of things but is with someone else.

I don't care about what women say. I watch how much what she says aligns with what she's doing. In the modern era of dating, a lot of women want marriage but don't want to be a wife. A lot want children but don't want to be a mother. Career is more important. Actions speak louder than words.

Double down on your faith in God. The girl at church, my gym or elsewhere is a option or not. My faith is in God and in the process. Ironically enough, most of our suffering is self inflicted due to poor Lifestyle choices. We place something else more important than God forgetting "thy will be done."

 

[Andyindauk]

Thank you so much. I changed the meds few times already within a month. I am upset with my therapist, because she did not agree that I can use the meds from 5 years ago.

I do not feel my heart is fully surrendered to God, because the things he said to me when he came the other day, and I really want to accept it or that is it for us, but I know it is not right with God. I’d prefer to PM you about what he said. I just do not want to mention it here. I do not wish to encourage others to sin or think that it is ok.

God bless,

Hi Kitty,

Yes, please do PM me. There's something about you that tugs at my heart strings, your heart is in the right place, your head is in the wrong place. I want to be able to make things better for you but what I tell you, you might not want to hear but ignore me at your peril because I love you dearly as a sister I want the best for you because you deserve it and so I promise you that I've prayed about you, prayed that His Holy Spirit will give me the wisdom to tell you direct His message to you.

I promise you i don't judge, I don’t preach, I'll tell you like it is, warts 'n all, been there, got the T shirt and give it to the charity shop - I dare you

 

[KittyLinda]

Assuming your avi is 1) you 2) recently taken pic, you are cute, and you will meet somebody else who is a better alternative. Contrary to operation evil, Oprah, and girl power promos in society, your youth doesn't grow back. A simple online search from my high school year book is not pretty. A tell tale sign of chase bad boys and random baby daddy. No man wants to be plan B nor fix the damage done by some other idiot. Cut all contact. Move on. The sec a girl says ex bf or this guy friend, she's somebody casual. Not taken serious. I am not a cuck. I am not plan Z when Tyrone and Chad stop coming over. Choose your destiny.

It is recently taken, but it does not matter how I look. That actually has always turned against me. I even stayed in violent relationships and everyone leaves. I was that desperate, and I can't make it work in any relationship. Men often tell me nice things, until they actually know me enough, then they just want to be far away from me.

I do not wish to be someone's casual too, but he did not leave me when I was in prison, or for my addictions, or when I was in a psychiatric hospital for months. I even wanted to give up my baby for adoption because deep down I hate myself, but he refused, and stayed with me, convinced me that is not the right way and he promised to try to make it work. I am not a bad person, but my disorder nearly makes it impossible for me to have healthy relationships. There are no alternatives here and they will never be after having a child in my life. Not even the kindest Christians men want to be with someone with these problems and I doubt I can change anything about me. God's knows If I will actually die alone. Even my family nearly gave up on me before. Choose your destiny sounds like I can control my life. I lived 8 years of hell trying to cope and even now I fear that I can't cope alone as a single mom.

why live with a man you are not married to?

I can't say that my heart is focused on God, but I am also not consciously willing to sin. I read my bible just recently this year, after a suicide attempt and a family crisis. I am not very moral being if you want to test me on these biblical rules. It is why I left the faith and I came to it several times but I am trying to be a good person. I pray. I read the bible. I believe in Jesus.

You sound confused. Your faith wavered because of a guy who was willing to have sex with you and promise you all sorts of things but is with someone else.

Perhaps, I am confused. Yes, this should not shake my faith, but you're also hurting me when you say things like this.

God bless,