Demonic dreams?

[Maureen]

I did tell about the dream I had about chasing away demons and found myself howling out loud that actually woke up my husband then myself.

I didn't share my dream with him till much later on, as he's not a believer, yet, so would maybe deem me crazy, although he didn't, much to my surprise.

just keeping in with the title of the thread as asked.

But could I add this please,
my cousin told me (she's a Christian) that while she was staying in her sisters home, (a backslidder) she found this ornament, it was of foriegn orgin I can't remember just now what it was exactly, but she said every time she passed it in the hallway she felt a choking or something to that effect, I know it bothered her quite bad, she asked her sister would she please remove it, and when she did there was no more trouble like that.

Makes me start to ponder about stuff that maybe around one's home that there would be an unawareness of.
I don't think I would have anything, but in saying so, I did have a Halloween witch I kept in the loft from years ago, I don't know if she's still hanging around in there come to think. Oh its only a toy one not very big, just realized someone may actually think I've a real one there.

Would the likes of that be of trouble, as I've not experienced anything, and I trust in God that I don't.

 

[Coconut]

People are very busy labelling Beam as superstitious, but not one of you has made comment on the above. Isn't this an eye witness account of the ability of an inanimate object to carry with it an attachment in the realm of the spirit? Wake up guys! The Ark of the Covenant was an inanimate object, yet it carried the pure essence of the Glory of God's Spirit! One touch and bam - you're toast! Check your New Testament, Bereans. Didn't a mere piece of cloth that had touched the person of the apostle Peter, when placed upon the sick, bring the healing power of Holy Spirit to that person?

Acts 19:11-12 "God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them."

How many Christians have been blessed by a healing or prayer cloth – a shawl or cloth anointed and prayed over by other saints so that it be anointed with the healing power of God? Are they all superstitious? So if an object can carry with it the Spirit of God, why could it not carry an evil spirit? It's not superstition, it's spiritual fact.

And as for believing in the reality of curses being a superstition, what do you think witch's do? How do you think witchdoctor's cause Christians to suffer all sorts of malady? Read up on the testimonies of a few prominent ministers on the African continent, or Haiti - are they all superstitious too? The witches know the principals of the spiritual realm and they access it illegally, and then use it to great effect against Christians who ignore the possibility and write it off as superstitious nonsense.

The principal of matter carrying energy is also scientific. It’s a subject of quantum physics that matter has memory. It’s also in the Bible.

Joshua 24:26-17 “Then Joshua wrote these words in the Book of the Law of God. And he took a large stone, and set it up there under the oak that was by the sanctuary of the LORD. And Joshua said to all the people, ‘Behold, this stone shall be a witness to us, for it has heard all the words of the LORD which He spoke to us. It shall therefore be a witness to you, lest you deny your God.’”

Joshua understood the principle that even the rocks would record and carry with them the memory of what happened around them. Just imagine, every word ever to leave your mouth, recorded in the stones around you, crying out as a witness unless it’s cleansed and wiped clean by the Blood of the Lamb through heartfelt repentance.

I, myself, have had personal experience with the principal that some objects carry evil intent, with evil spirits manifesting in a house and harassing the occupants until the objects were cleansed – done by anointing with oil in the name of Jesus and pleading the cleansing blood of Jesus.

Yes, there is a real danger of falling into religious fear and cleaning out anything and everything felt to be slightly suspect. But I challenge any of you who doubt to honestly walk around your homes and ask Holy Spirit to highlight anything that might be causing problems. Things are just things, but some of them do have demonic assignments attached to them. Many things do not have to be thrown out, but you’re not going to hurt yourself or your faith in God by blessing all your stuff in the name of Jesus. I would definitely get rid of anything glorifying witchcraft, any idols to false gods, or any items used in religious rites contrary to our faith in Jesus. Why would you want to have them in the house anyway? And some of those toys are just plain scarey.

My son was having intense, demonically inspired night terrors often involving a particular group of his toys. I didn’t see the sense in removing the toys, knowing that the toys themselves are just plastic, but Holy Spirit lead us to cleanse the toys and cancel any assignments attached to them. Problem solved. Not to mention the fact that afterward my son lost his fixation on the toys. He was obsessed with them, and had in fact come to ‘idolize’ them. Idolatry is rebellion against God, and gives an entrance to demonic influence.

Am I, or Beam, fixated on the demonic by talking about their tactics? Is it at all rational to ignore the wiles of the enemy, and not make ourselves aware of their schemes? How would any one of you feel if you were to ask the General of your country’s armed forces “What are the enemies tactics?” and he was to reply with a shrug and a sweet smile “Oh, we don’t talk about that, we don’t need to know what the enemy’s doing and where he is and what type of weapons he has.” Would you think he was all that good a general? Apostle Paul tells us not to be ignorant of the devil’s tools.

2 Cor 2:11 “lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.”

I think too many in the Body are ignorant and willingly choose to remain so, so as not to offend their theology.

I don’t advocate an unhealthy focus on the demonic, because we give power to the thing we focus on. Jesus gets all the glory, and all our help is in Him and from Him. We keep our focus on Jesus and remember that the “joy of the LORD is our strength.” (Neh 8:10) But we cannot be blind to the tactics of the enemy that keep the Body bound in intolerable ways because she is too civilized to accept the ‘superstitions’ of the spiritual realm. Ask a converted witchdoctor if he believes that evil spirits form attachments through objects, and somehow I don’t think you’d find him nearly so disbelieving of the idea.

I say ‘good for you Beam’, for speaking up on a subject you’re obviously being taught on by Holy Spirit. We’re all invited to have a living relationship with Him and be taught of Him, and must be wary of idolizing the Bible above the revealed knowledge of Holy Spirit as He speaks to our hearts. We check every thought against the Word and with the Spirit of God dwelling within us. But I for one, aim never to poke my Bible and say to a brother or sister in the LORD, you’re wrong because I don’t see the proof for your words in here. May the LORD chastise me severely should my self-confidence ever rise so high. Glory to God, I plan to enjoy spending all eternity searching out the mysteries hidden in His Word and wouldn’t even dare think that I’d found them all already, or that I fully understand everything written in the volume of the Book.

In the meantime, Beam, I’m going to stand out here on the limb of superstition with you, at least I’ll have a better view to see the enemy coming up from behind. Glory to God! Life is fun!

There is an "eye witness" of Jesus Christ living Siberia to, (by thousands of eye witnesses) does that mean we should believe it?

http://www.talkjesus.com/evidence-bible-prophecy/25284-false-christ-siberia.html#post126121

Yes, amen, read the scripture, this nonsense of demons possessing inanimate objects is nowheres to be found in it. Period.


Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do].
1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and [of] a good conscience, and [of] faith unfeigned:
1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

1Co 4:6 I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another.

Jas 4:5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
Jas 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.


The Scripture is still profitable for doctrine in this forum, and hopefully will remain so.

This thread is now closed.

 

[Chad]

We’re all invited to have a living relationship with Him and be taught of Him, and must be wary of idolizing the Bible above the revealed knowledge of Holy Spirit as He speaks to our hearts. We check every thought against the Word and with the Spirit of God dwelling within us.

Your comment here is nothing short of absurd. Without the Word of GOD, how do you know how to test the spirits, Who the Holy Spirit is and what His character is like in order to test the spirits and actually know Who GOD is? It is impossible to "Idolize" the Word of GOD. It is the divine Word from GOD Himself. That's not idolatry, that's faith and adhering to what GOD tells us in the Word itself. There is no such thing as putting the Bible above the Holy Spirit because its completely illogical first of all if you're actually studying and following the Word accordingly for it is and says, and it contradicts yourself.

First time I've ever heard such a strange comment.

And now you quote Joshua 24:26-17. So tell me, you take it literal that the stone had such spiritual power? Wrong!

The principal of matter carrying energy is also scientific. It’s a subject of quantum physics that matter has memory. It’s also in the Bible.

So before you go telling people to wake up, examine your own views first and study. Actually, lean on the Holy Spirit for understanding, not your own.

Joshua 24:26-18

18And the LORD drave out from before us all the people, even the Amorites which dwelt in the land: therefore will we also serve the LORD; for he is our God.19And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.20If ye forsake the LORD, and serve strange gods, then he will turn and do you hurt, and consume you, after that he hath done you good.21And the people said unto Joshua, Nay; but we will serve the LORD.22And Joshua said unto the people, Ye are witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you the LORD, to serve him. And they said, We are witnesses.23Now therefore put away, said he, the strange gods which are among you, and incline your heart unto the LORD God of Israel.24And the people said unto Joshua, The LORD our God will we serve, and his voice will we obey.25So Joshua made a covenant with the people that day, and set them a statute and an ordinance in Shechem.26And Joshua wrote these words in the book of the law of God, and took a great stone, and set it up there under an oak, that was by the sanctuary of the LORD.

KJV Commentary

25-28. Convinced that Israel would little note nor long remember what she had affirmed at his farewell address, Joshua set them a statute and an ordinance in Shechem. This time it was in stone that Joshua made a covenant (Heb beriµt, lit., “cut a covenant,” a common Hebrew, Greek, and Latin expression for the formation of a covenant which was accompanied by a sacrifice cut into pieces and offered to the deity). The practice of chiseling a covenant in stone (like the tablets of the Mosaic law) was common in the ancient Near East. Joshua set the great covenant stone under an oak as a witness unto us of what Israel had covenanted, lest ye deny your God. With these precautions taken against idolatry, Joshua permitted the people to depart to their homes.