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Do Most Christians read simple words and do not know the definition of them? Like here’s one “Anti” .

What have “Christians” done to the word “Sheol”! What have have they Done? Have they created something new, have they added to the Word of God? The OT has it meaning of “Sheol” in the original text! Modern day Christians have their replacement word , with their own meaning! The “NT” text has its original text the word “Sheol” in Greek! The modern day Christian has its replacement word “Hell” with its meaning! Not only are we living in the “Great failing Away” but we are also living in the “Great falling Away from The Original Text”. Wow, Mmmm, thinking, that all could fall into the same “category”!
I am mentioning this because I have been shadowing the “posts” where the topic is “Hell”! People cannot agree what it really means. There should not be any confusion on the word “sheol”, scripture explains what it is in context. And “Lexicons”!!!!! “Lexicons!!!
And “Lexicons”:cool:
 
There are those who will try to find Any reason to disregard 'hell'.

One term is used in the Old Testament the other in the New Testament -- they mean the same place. Sheol and Hades.

There's no big falling away from the original texts. Those original texts have been translated from the original Greek and the original Hebrew and some Armaic so 'we' can have , read Scripture in our own language.

'Christians' haven't done anything to the term 'sheol'. And nothing has been replaced. Sounds like you're trying to make a big deal out of absolutely nothing. The other name used is Hades.
 
I was only just saying in all that I said: Concerning problem words that people cannot agree on. Use a reliable Greek lexicon of New Testament words and for Hebrews Old Testament words a “reliable” Hebrew lexicon. These are the bases, our Bibles are written, with in “Holy Scripture “ references within in them. [For in the original texts there is no such word as “Hell”] it is a coined English word!

you will not fine it in none of the “Manuscripts”. The Codex Alexandrinus, The Codex Sinaiticus, the codex Vaticanus, the Textus Receptus, and also the “Masoretic text”. manuscripts.
If we all use the lexicons we will all come to “agreement” as one.

New Living Translation
I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me. (John 17:21).
❤️
 
Biblical terminology

In the King James Bible, the Old Testament term Sheol is translated as "Hell" 31 times, and it is translated as "the grave" 31 times. Sheol is also translated as "the pit" three times. Modern Bible translations typically render Sheol as "the grave", "the pit", or "death".
 
I know many are not going to read this, because they think it is not important for biblical study but is the bases and foundation of how the bible you read ! Today. This a “standard” Biblical terminology of the English word “ Hell” in the “New Testament”. So if we are here to teach, that is a different matter. But if we are here for edification”, to edify one another, that we all can come together and unity in “Christ Jesus” our Lord. For this is my intent for this post. And not to teach anything!

Biblical Terminology: for “Hell” in the “New Testament”
The term “hell” is found twenty-three times in the King James Version of the English Bible. There is a great deal of confusion among religious folks regarding this word due to the fact that the English form “hell” actually represents three different terms in the Greek New Testament. Let us give consideration to this matter.
Hades
The Greek hades is translated “hell” ten times in the KJV. Most recent versions transliterate the term, bringing it directly into English as Hades.
The origin of the word is a bit obscure. Most scholars suggest that it is derived of two roots: a (a negative prefix meaning “not”), and idein (to see), hence suggesting, “not to be seen” (Thayer, 11). Others think it may originate with hado, “all receiving” (Vine, 368). In the final analysis, the theological meaning must be determined by the context in which it is found. There are several senses in which Hades is employed in the New Testament.
Hades is used for the general abode of the spirits of the dead, whether good or evil. Jesus affirmed that he possessed the keys (authority to open) of “death” (the receptacle of the body) and “Hades” (the realm of the departed soul) (Rev. 1:18). In one of his visions, John sees “death” riding a pale horse, followed by “Hades” (Rev. 6:8). Both death and Hades will be emptied at the time of the judgment (Rev. 20:13-14), i.e., the grave will give up the body, and the spirit sphere will surrender the soul.
By means of a figure known as a synecdoche (the whole put for a part), Hades is sometimes used to designate a limited region of the spirit world. Depending upon the context, that region may either be one of punishment or reward.
For example, Jesus warned that the wicked inhabitants of Capernaum (who had rejected his teaching) would go down into Hades (Mt. 11:23; Lk. 10:15). When the cold-hearted rich man died, his spirit was found in Hades, a place of torment and anguish (Lk. 16:23-24).
On the other hand, when Christ died, while his body was resting in Joseph’s tomb, his soul was in Hades (Acts 2:27-31), which elsewhere is called “Paradise” (Lk. 23:43). This seems to have been the same state as “Abraham’s bosom,” a place of comfort (Lk. 16:22,25).
When Christ promised to build his church, and declared that the “gates of Hades” would not prevail against it, he may have been suggesting that when he died, Hades would not retain his soul, thus preventing the establishment of his kingdom. Or, he may have been proclaiming that the church would share ultimately in his victory over death at the time of the resurrection.
Tartarus
The apostle Peter wrote that:
“God spared not angels when they sinned, but cast them down to hell, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment . . .” (2 Pet. 2:4).
Here, “hell” is from the Greek term tartarosas, a participle, the noun form of which is Tartarus (so rendered in the footnote of the ASV). This is this word’s only occurrence in the New Testament.
Originally it simply denoted a deep place; it carries that significance in Job 40:13; 41:31 in the Septuagint. Homer, the Greek poet, spoke of “dark Tartarus . . . the deepest pit” (Iliad, 8.13). Here, it is used of the abode of evil angels prior to their banishment to Gehenna, their ultimate destiny (cf. Mt. 25:41).
The ancient Greeks, however, applied the word to the region of the wicked dead. Since there is no indication that Peter assigns an extraordinary meaning to the term, it is reasonable to conclude that it denotes that area of Hades in which both rebel men and angels are punished preliminary to the day of judgment.
Note that 2 Peter 2:9 reads: “the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment unto the day of judgment” (ASV; cf. NKJV). The present participle “under punishment” reveals that the penalty was already being inflicted at the time the apostle is writing. The KJV, which suggests that the punishment comes after the judgment, does not reflect the true sense of the original. Tartarus is therefore most likely the specific name of the Hadean realm where the rich man was languishing (Lk. 16:23).
Gehenna
The final and eternal abode of those who die apart from God is Gehenna. The word is found twelve times in the Greek New Testament. In eleven of these instances, it is Jesus Christ himself who employs the term.
Bertrand Russell, the agnostic British philosopher, once penned an essay titled: “Why I Am Not A Christian.” One of his main objections was this: “[Jesus] believed in hell.” At least he knew what the Lord taught on this matter, which is more than can be said of some who profess an acquaintance with the Scriptures.
Gehenna is a transliteration of an Old Testament Hebrew expression, “the valley of Hinnom,” which denoted a ravine on the southern side of Jerusalem. This valley was used by certain apostate Hebrews as a place where their children were offered into the fiery arms of the pagan god Molech (2 Chron. 28:3; 33:6). It was thus an area of suffering and weeping. When Josiah launched his reformation, this valley was regarded as a site of heinous abomination (2 Kgs. 23:10-14). It finally became the garbage depository of Jerusalem where there was a continual burning of refuse. Gehenna, being associated with these ideas, appropriately served as a symbolic designation for the place of suffering to which evil persons will be consigned following the Lord’s return. Let us now consider the New Testament passages in which Gehenna is mentioned.
Jesus spoke of Gehenna several times in his “Sermon on the Mount.” For instance, he warned that whoever addresses another: “You fool!” shall be in danger of the “hell of fire” (Mt. 5:22). This does not mean that a legitimate use of the appellation “fool” (or its derivatives) is prohibited (cf. Psa. 14:1; 1 Cor. 15:36; Gal. 3:1). Rather, the Lord condemns the explosive use of pejorative barbs for the sake of venting one’s personal rage.
Employing several examples of hyperbole (for the sake of emphasis), Christ stressed that it would be better to proceed through life with great loss (e.g. deprived of an eye or a limb), rather than having Gehenna as a final destiny (Mt. 5:29-30; cf. 18:9; Mk. 9:43-47).
On another occasion, the Lord said: “And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” (Mt. 10:28; cf. Lk. 12:5).
In his blistering rebuke of the Jewish leaders who were on the brink of crucifying their own Messiah, Jesus charged:
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you compass sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he is become so, you make him twofold more a son of hell than yourselves” (Mt. 23:15).
Then in the same discourse: “You serpents, you offspring of vipers, how shall you escape the judgment of hell?” (33).
The final use of Gehenna in the New Testament is where James affirms that the tongue “is set on fire of hell” (3:6). This may suggest that the ability to control one’s tongue (speech) is about as difficult as it would be to contain the continuously raging (the participle is a present tense) flames of Gehenna. The point may be with reference to character, namely that the tongue is frequently given to such poisons as are hellish in nature. Or maybe the destructive quality of the tongue is in view.
The Nature of Gehenna
There are several important truths regarding the punishment of Gehenna that the Bible student must consider.
Body and Soul
Gehenna is a state that involves both the resurrected body and the soul. First, note that unrighteous people will be resurrected from the dead, just as the saints will (Jn. 5:28-29; Acts 24:15). Then, observe that Christ clearly indicated that the body, as well as the soul, will be subjected to the agonies of Gehenna (Mt. 5:29-30; Mk. 9:43-48; Mt. 10:28).
Consciousness
Gehenna involves a state of awareness. It is very important that this point be made, because there are those who allege that hell will consist in the wicked being annihilated (C. Pinnock, 40; cf. LaGard Smith, 1988). In their view, the occupants of Gehenna will eventually cease to exist. This concept is flawed indeed.
First, when the Lord affirmed that God will “destroy” both body and soul in Gehenna (Mt. 10:28), he employed the word apollumi (used about 92 times in the New Testament). It is translated by such terms as “destroy,” “perish,” “loss,” and “lost.” The term does not suggest the sense of annihilation.
When the prodigal son was in the far country, he was “lost” (apololos), i.e., estranged from the blessings of his home, but he was not annihilated. Jesus affirmed that he came to save that which stands lost (apololos). The perfect tense describes a present condition which has resulted from previous activity. The Lord did not come to save folks who were in a state of non-existence!
“In every instance where the word apollumi is found in the New Testament, something other than annihilation is being described” (Morey, 90).
Regarding apollumi, Vine notes: “The idea is not extinction but ruin, loss, not of being, but of well-being” (211).
Thayer defines apollumi, in connection with Matthew 10:28, as follows: “to devote or give over to eternal misery” (64).
Second, the Bible employs a number of expressions to describe the emotional state of Gehenna, which can only imply the concept of conscious agony. It is depicted as a place of “unquenchable fire” (Mk. 9:44) — fire being a metaphor for “the extreme penal torments which the wicked are to undergo after their life on earth” (Thayer, 558).
Jesus spoke of Gehenna as a place “where their worm dies not” (Mk. 9:48). The never-dying worm is a symbol of the unending “torment of the damned” (Arndt/Gingrich, 765).
The Lord describes Gehenna as a place of “eternal punishment.” The word rendered “punishment” is the Greek kolasis. Note the following statement from the patristic document known as 1 Clement (A.D. 95). “. . . [The Lord] does not forsake those that hope in Him, but gives up such as depart from Him to punishment [kolasis] and torment” (XI).
Punishment implies consciousness. It would be absurd to describe those who no longer exist as being “punished.” The wicked will be “tormented” with the fire of Gehenna (cf. Rev. 14:10-11). Torment certainly implies awareness (cf. Rev. 9:5; 11:10).
Finally, we would raise this question: If the condition of the rich man in Hades was one of “anguish” (odunao – “to suffer pain”), though it involved only the soul, does it seem likely that the ultimate punishment of Gehenna, which involves both body and soul, would entail less?
Eternal Duration
In conclusion it must be stressed that the punishment of those in Gehenna is unending. The fire is “unquenchable” (Mt. 3:12). The Greek word for “unquenchable” is asbestos, a term which denotes that which cannot be extinguished. The worm (gnawing anguish) “dies not” — which means “their punishment after death will never cease” (Thayer, 580). The punishment, or destruction, is “eternal” (Mt. 25:46; 2 Thes. 1:9). Adam Clarke has an excellent discussion of the use of “eternal” in Matthew 25:46.
“But some are of the opinion that this punishment shall have an end: this is as likely as that the glory of the righteous shall have an end; for the same word is used to express the duration of the punishment, kolasin aionion, as is used to express the duration of the state of glory: zoen aionion.
I have seen the best things that have been written in favour of the final redemption of damned spirits; but I never saw an answer to the argument against that doctrine, drawn from this verse, but what sound learning and criticism should be ashamed to acknowledge. The original word aion is certainly to be taken here in its proper grammatical sense, continued being, aieion, NEVER ENDING.
Some have gone a middle way, and think that the wicked shall be annihilated. This, I think is contrary to the text; if they go into punishment, they continue to exist; for that which ceases to be, ceases to suffer."
Those who contend that the wicked will be annihilated are in error. But is the issue one of importance? Yes. Any theory of divine retribution which undermines the full consequences of rebelling against God has to be most dangerous.

[Arndt Gingrich 708, Greek-English Lexicon of the new testament]
[Vine’s book on New Testament Greek words]
[Thayer’s J.H. Greek-English Lexicon of The New Testament Words].....etc.
If you want to be a Disciple of Jesus, We must count the cost!❤ “To much study
The term “hell” is found twenty-three times in the King James Version of the English Bible. There is a great deal of confusion among religious folks regarding this word due to the fact that the English form “hell” actually represents three different terms in the Greek New Testament. Let us give consideration to this matter.
Hades
The Greek hades is translated “hell” ten times in the KJV. Most recent versions transliterate the term, bringing it directly into English as Hades.
The origin of the word is a bit obscure. Most scholars suggest that it is derived of two roots: a (a negative prefix meaning “not”), and idein (to see), hence suggesting, “not to be seen” (Thayer, 11). Others think it may originate with hado, “all receiving” (Vine, 368). In the final analysis, the theological meaning must be determined by the context in which it is found. There are several senses in which Hades is employed in the New Testament.
Hades is used for the general abode of the spirits of the dead, whether good or evil. Jesus affirmed that he possessed the keys (authority to open) of “death” (the receptacle of the body) and “Hades” (the realm of the departed soul) (Rev. 1:18). In one of his visions, John sees “death” riding a pale horse, followed by “Hades” (Rev. 6:8). Both death and Hades will be emptied at the time of the judgment (Rev. 20:13-14), i.e., the grave will give up the body, and the spirit sphere will surrender the soul.
By means of a figure known as a synecdoche (the whole put for a part), Hades is sometimes used to designate a limited region of the spirit world. Depending upon the context, that region may either be one of punishment or reward.
For example, Jesus warned that the wicked inhabitants of Capernaum (who had rejected his teaching) would go down into Hades (Mt. 11:23; Lk. 10:15). When the cold-hearted rich man died, his spirit was found in Hades, a place of torment and anguish (Lk. 16:23-24).
On the other hand, when Christ died, while his body was resting in Joseph’s tomb, his soul was in Hades (Acts 2:27-31), which elsewhere is called “Paradise” (Lk. 23:43). This seems to have been the same state as “Abraham’s bosom,” a place of comfort (Lk. 16:22,25).
When Christ promised to build his church, and declared that the “gates of Hades” would not prevail against it, he may have been suggesting that when he died, Hades would not retain his soul, thus preventing the establishment of his kingdom. Or, he may have been proclaiming that the church would share ultimately in his victory over death at the time of the resurrection.
Tartarus
The apostle Peter wrote that:
“God spared not angels when they sinned, but cast them down to hell, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment . . .” (2 Pet. 2:4).
Here, “hell” is from the Greek term tartarosas, a participle, the noun form of which is Tartarus (so rendered in the footnote of the ASV). This is this word’s only occurrence in the New Testament.
Originally it simply denoted a deep place; it carries that significance in Job 40:13; 41:31 in the Septuagint. Homer, the Greek poet, spoke of “dark Tartarus . . . the deepest pit” (Iliad, 8.13). Here, it is used of the abode of evil angels prior to their banishment to Gehenna, their ultimate destiny (cf. Mt. 25:41).
The ancient Greeks, however, applied the word to the region of the wicked dead. Since there is no indication that Peter assigns an extraordinary meaning to the term, it is reasonable to conclude that it denotes that area of Hades in which both rebel men and angels are punished preliminary to the day of judgment.
Note that 2 Peter 2:9 reads: “the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment unto the day of judgment” (ASV; cf. NKJV). The present participle “under punishment” reveals that the penalty was already being inflicted at the time the apostle is writing. The KJV, which suggests that the punishment comes after the judgment, does not reflect the true sense of the original. Tartarus is therefore most likely the specific name of the Hadean realm where the rich man was languishing (Lk. 16:23).
Gehenna
The final and eternal abode of those who die apart from God is Gehenna. The word is found twelve times in the Greek New Testament. In eleven of these instances, it is Jesus Christ himself who employs the term.
Bertrand Russell, the agnostic British philosopher, once penned an essay titled: “Why I Am Not A Christian.” One of his main objections was this: “[Jesus] believed in hell.” At least he knew what the Lord taught on this matter, which is more than can be said of some who profess an acquaintance with the Scriptures.
Gehenna is a transliteration of an Old Testament Hebrew expression, “the valley of Hinnom,” which denoted a ravine on the southern side of Jerusalem. This valley was used by certain apostate Hebrews as a place where their children were offered into the fiery arms of the pagan god Molech (2 Chron. 28:3; 33:6). It was thus an area of suffering and weeping. When Josiah launched his reformation, this valley was regarded as a site of heinous abomination (2 Kgs. 23:10-14). It finally became the garbage depository of Jerusalem where there was a continual burning of refuse. Gehenna, being associated with these ideas, appropriately served as a symbolic designation for the place of suffering to which evil persons will be consigned following the Lord’s return. Let us now consider the New Testament passages in which Gehenna is mentioned.
Jesus spoke of Gehenna several times in his “Sermon on the Mount.” For instance, he warned that whoever addresses another: “You fool!” shall be in danger of the “hell of fire” (Mt. 5:22). This does not mean that a legitimate use of the appellation “fool” (or its derivatives) is prohibited (cf. Psa. 14:1; 1 Cor. 15:36; Gal. 3:1). Rather, the Lord condemns the explosive use of pejorative barbs for the sake of venting one’s personal rage.
Employing several examples of hyperbole (for the sake of emphasis), Christ stressed that it would be better to proceed through life with great loss (e.g. deprived of an eye or a limb), rather than having Gehenna as a final destiny (Mt. 5:29-30; cf. 18:9; Mk. 9:43-47).
On another occasion, the Lord said: “And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” (Mt. 10:28; cf. Lk. 12:5).
In his blistering rebuke of the Jewish leaders who were on the brink of crucifying their own Messiah, Jesus charged:
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you compass sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he is become so, you make him twofold more a son of hell than yourselves” (Mt. 23:15).
Then in the same discourse: “You serpents, you offspring of vipers, how shall you escape the judgment of hell?” (33).
The final use of Gehenna in the New Testament is where James affirms that the tongue “is set on fire of hell” (3:6). This may suggest that the ability to control one’s tongue (speech) is about as difficult as it would be to contain the continuously raging (the participle is a present tense) flames of Gehenna. The point may be with reference to character, namely that the tongue is frequently given to such poisons as are hellish in nature. Or maybe the destructive quality of the tongue is in view.
The Nature of Gehenna
There are several important truths regarding the punishment of Gehenna that the Bible student must consider.
Body and Soul
Gehenna is a state that involves both the resurrected body and the soul. First, note that unrighteous people will be resurrected from the dead, just as the saints will (Jn. 5:28-29; Acts 24:15). Then, observe that Christ clearly indicated that the body, as well as the soul, will be subjected to the agonies of Gehenna (Mt. 5:29-30; Mk. 9:43-48; Mt. 10:28).
Consciousness
Gehenna involves a state of awareness. It is very important that this point be made, because there are those who allege that hell will consist in the wicked being annihilated (C. Pinnock, 40; cf. LaGard Smith, 1988). In their view, the occupants of Gehenna will eventually cease to exist. This concept is flawed indeed.
First, when the Lord affirmed that God will “destroy” both body and soul in Gehenna (Mt. 10:28), he employed the word apollumi (used about 92 times in the New Testament). It is translated by such terms as “destroy,” “perish,” “loss,” and “lost.” The term does not suggest the sense of annihilation.
When the prodigal son was in the far country, he was “lost” (apololos), i.e., estranged from the blessings of his home, but he was not annihilated. Jesus affirmed that he came to save that which stands lost (apololos). The perfect tense describes a present condition which has resulted from previous activity. The Lord did not come to save folks who were in a state of non-existence!
“In every instance where the word apollumi is found in the New Testament, something other than annihilation is being described” (Morey, 90).
Regarding apollumi, Vine notes: “The idea is not extinction but ruin, loss, not of being, but of well-being” (211).
Thayer defines apollumi, in connection with Matthew 10:28, as follows: “to devote or give over to eternal misery” (64).
Second, the Bible employs a number of expressions to describe the emotional state of Gehenna, which can only imply the concept of conscious agony. It is depicted as a place of “unquenchable fire” (Mk. 9:44) — fire being a metaphor for “the extreme penal torments which the wicked are to undergo after their life on earth” (Thayer, 558).
Jesus spoke of Gehenna as a place “where their worm dies not” (Mk. 9:48). The never-dying worm is a symbol of the unending “torment of the damned” (Arndt/Gingrich, 765).
The Lord describes Gehenna as a place of “eternal punishment.” The word rendered “punishment” is the Greek kolasis. Note the following statement from the patristic document known as 1 Clement (A.D. 95). “. . . [The Lord] does not forsake those that hope in Him, but gives up such as depart from Him to punishment [kolasis] and torment” (XI).
Punishment implies consciousness. It would be absurd to describe those who no longer exist as being “punished.” The wicked will be “tormented” with the fire of Gehenna (cf. Rev. 14:10-11). Torment certainly implies awareness (cf. Rev. 9:5; 11:10).
Finally, we would raise this question: If the condition of the rich man in Hades was one of “anguish” (odunao – “to suffer pain”), though it involved only the soul, does it seem likely that the ultimate punishment of Gehenna, which involves both body and soul, would entail less?
Eternal Duration
In conclusion it must be stressed that the punishment of those in Gehenna is unending. The fire is “unquenchable” (Mt. 3:12). The Greek word for “unquenchable” is asbestos, a term which denotes that which cannot be extinguished. The worm (gnawing anguish) “dies not” — which means “their punishment after death will never cease” (Thayer, 580). The punishment, or destruction, is “eternal” (Mt. 25:46; 2 Thes. 1:9). Adam Clarke has an excellent discussion of the use of “eternal” in Matthew 25:46.
“But some are of the opinion that this punishment shall have an end: this is as likely as that the glory of the righteous shall have an end; for the same word is used to express the duration of the punishment, kolasin aionion, as is used to express the duration of the state of glory: zoen aionion.
I have seen the best things that have been written in favour of the final redemption of damned spirits; but I never saw an answer to the argument against that doctrine, drawn from this verse, but what sound learning and criticism should be ashamed to acknowledge. The original word aion is certainly to be taken here in its proper grammatical sense, continued being, aieion, NEVER ENDING.
Some have gone a middle way, and think that the wicked shall be annihilated. This, I think is contrary to the text; if they go into punishment, they continue to exist; for that which ceases to be, ceases to suffer."
Those who contend that the wicked will be annihilated are in error. But is the issue one of importance? Yes. Any theory of divine retribution which undermines the full consequences of rebelling against God has to be most dangerous.
 
You're right -- Most of us aren't going to read through all of that material.

With Any portion of God's Word -- we are to be reading to edify - learn - apply to our daily lives.

Present that in smaller sections !!!!. And a lot of it doesn't really need to Be presented. I was just reading through it quickly. Lots of good info, but 'this' is not college-level thread of study.

Revelation is a very complex book -- years ago in a Precepts class -- we took two years to go through it. One of those times was doing it in picture form to try to visualize what was taking place. And I also have a study guide of the book.
 
You right the “letter” that was sent to the “7 churches in Asia “, was written only to a special group only. Just like you said:
1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto “HIS “servants

Because others will not understand it, others are not supposed to understand it.

Remember what God has said: they will see but not understand it, neither can they see or understand it because God has blinded them so they cannot see. It is not for everyone. And they don’t understand that short statement, Only the “Elect of God”.
3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
It did not say study it, it said “read it” or hear it”. We must obey God rather than Man!
Listen what the Spirit says to the “Congregation of God”.
This is not our world, we are different from the people of this world, we are not the same creatures we once were, we do not desire this world neither do we desire the things in it! Our affections are not here. To assure “The “Elect”, the Chosen” “the Called”. It is in the letter to the “7 churches of Asia” what will come to Pass! The “Unveiling of “Jesus Christ”!!!
All that is written there are true, It is “The Truth”. Men will distract from what God has said! GOD will never,I say never, ever direct you from the Book of Revelation! He will Always lead you there!!!! Genesis to Revelation...... Alpha and Omega....... Beginning to the Ending.....of The Completion of the “Manifestation” of the “Sons of GOD”. Then Behold HE will Make All Things BRAND NEW! ALL THINGS, not some ALL! “WE ARE PILGRIMS” TRAVELING THROUGH THIS STRANGE LAND”. Looking for that city “Who’s builder and maker is God Almighty “. “He Said I’m going to prepare a place for you, if was not so, I would have told you.” So let Us run this race with patience, and let patience perform its perfect work.
that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing”
Shalom, my brothers and sisters in “Jesus Christ” our Lord!
 
The letter was written to 'His servants' -- all who read it.

After That introduction , John starts talking to the 7 churches in Asia -- the good points and negative things about each of those churches. And that can Also be applied to churches of Today. Pastors Since then could be comparing their churches to those 7 and see how they compare.

Those things we definitely Can understand.

Well - people read God's Word for Many reasons. For general knowledge, for studying, for learning As we read it or why bother reading it.

Just out of curiousity -- I just read the beginning of this thread. How did we all of a sudden get into the Revelation study. This is a different thread.
 
It is called; “drifting” or “overflow” or just maybe caught in the “Draft” [Drafting].
 
It seems things are getting so deceptive, among “Christians” more and more. Especially how the enemy has use the forms of “stratagem” pertaining to words! Their meaning, by long range “strategic” incursion into the “Christian” atmosphere, and have applied “Novocain” into the affected area so they sense no pain.
It is the same old trick he used on Eve, and tried to apply it on “Jesus”. “But, little did he know, how could he even think, he could use “The Word” to deceive “The WORD” by quoting “The Word” to “The WORD”!
So let us with all gravity try to understand the true meaning of Biblical Words and there meaning!
 
The difference between "there' and 'their'.

The use of novicane in dentistry is very effective to prevent dental pain.

A trick or scheme to deceive a person. == stratagem.

In the Bible -- context is key to understanding any word / phrase. For instance 'two, to, too' depends entirely on context.
 
My phone has automatic grammar and automatic word replacement. It will rewrite words by itself and spell too! LOL. If I don’t spell or word check. I have not updated software. In a while too! iPhone. So you have excuse and read in the text.
 
My phone has automatic grammar and automatic word replacement. It will rewrite words by itself and spell too! LOL. If I don’t spell or word check. I have not updated software. In a while too! iPhone. So you have excuse and read in the text.

Greetings,

it is usually best to not only check spelling etc before posting but also to prayerfully consider the content of each post and one thing we could do [and please encourage me when and where needed], is to post as if we were sitting around a table with Jesus. After all, the Lord does see and know and we are accountable, like it or not.

Also, members can edit their posts if they make typos if they read through and see any. I think the time is 15 minutes but i could be mistaken Could be five, but either way, we do have time to check afterwards and correct if need be.

Often we can get a little too hasty to post and we forget that we can slow down. Unless the Lord comes in the meantime, the threads and forums should still be there to reply to at a later date.
We can get overly keen to interact and forget that there is no rush.


Bless you ....><>
 
I remember when my kids were, very small. My son told me one day as he was looking at my library of books, he look up, then look at me, and said: “you haven’t read all of those books” LOL. The look on His face, made me burst out laughing! I said: yes I have. He said no you haven’t. LOL. Me and my wife would go to some places, we have met a lot of people from around the world. By, snow skiing, or vacations or what ever, Doctors , lawyers, truck drivers, Professors, labours, all types of people. We would get into conversations, they would be good conversations , no matter which way we go, it would be good, but you know the gospel would be my target. My wife would say sometimes, they don’t believe you have read all that stuff! But she knows I have, she my wife! Because a lot of times I would ask her questions, about, could the author explain this better, or this “Encyclopaedia” has made a mistake or has a error or a mis-print. She would say: how did you find that or i don’t understand that stuff. I would say: you the one with “Doctorate Degree “ always correcting my language.
This path has been , a heck of a journey. I just hope the things that are written in “Holy Scripture “ are so! If not , like Apostle Paul, we of all men most “miserable”. Shalom.
 
Let us take the word “Preach” and “Proclaim”. Do they have the same solid meaning in our culture today? Then if we look at each one’s origin and why were they “coined” and for what purpose!
Now we know, Jesus said:

English Standard Version
And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.

We, know why He used the word “Proclaim”. We know there was no, “news paper” if so, most could not read or write, there was no “Radio” broadcast or television stations. So how did the “news” of that time get out?

answer: They had “Heralds”, a person or thing that “proclaims or announces”!
In Jesus case, it was a “Proclaimer” of a “Proclamation “!.

New International Version
How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of my those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, "Your God reigns!"

Well now, when did , how did or why did some interpreters use a replacement word “preach” or preacher”, Was Jesus word that he used was not good enough? Because his term had become, out dated? Or was it because a “new institution” have come into being, now we have our own organization, with “Our” own organizational “name”. We have our own “ membership”!Roll and we have a great “preacher” who preaches and teaches us the word of God.

Let me make this statement for clarity: The “institutionalize church” has done a many of good works, they were the “stark work of education, “Holy Scripture”, hospitals, charity, orphanages, missionaries that went into dark regions of the world and died horrible deaths proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ, not even loving their lives to death, a living sacrifice. And the “Roman Catholic Church” has lead the way! And During wars, fightings, plagues, Disasters, “RCC” track record has been outstanding! And I thank God for them! They have served and help the whole world to those who needed help!!!! And that is the truth! “So if anyone thinks that I hate “the institutionalize church” they are strongly wrong! “. “It cannot get no clearer than that”! Shalom
 
Now let us take the biblical word “believer”. And the word “sinner”! Most Christians don’t even realize the depth meaning of those words. Why would I say that, because you can tell by their conversation..
 
“Sovereign”
“GOD is Sovereign “
“The Sovereignty of GOD”

sometimes when I have spoken to my fellow Christians and in my conversation I would bring up either one of these terms. As we would go on in conversation. I could tell that they do not understand the meaning or the term; “ The Sovereignty of GOD”. Or “GOD is Sovereign“. :pensive: And by not knowing what that means, their view of GOD is to small even for the human mind.
 
When I listen to my brothers and sisters speak and talk about things, it seems like they do not understand certain word meaning. But sometimes, but not often, someone will say, I don’t understand that meaning. Which is good, but right here I am speaking about words that are kinda common.

example: Ordain, anti, Sovereign, holiness of God, agape love, benevolent love, grace, common grace, saving grace, trust, faith in God, peace of God, peace that the world gives, some of these words are “Biblical terms” and I think the enemy has us running past them quickly! I hope I am making sense.

the reason why I approached this is because of what I am hearing.
All the complaints I am hearing about the “Institutional church” is that they are “Anti- Bible” now if they are “Anti-Bible”, they are “Anti-Word of God” and if they are “Anti-Word of God” then they are truly, “Anti-Christ”! Because “in light of Scripture “ it is “Anti-Christ”. Now what say you?❤
Do we use Websters or Scripture to define the words in Scripture, maybe both?
A couple words / phrases i would be interested in understanding what they mean to others.
'at hand' 'soon' 'this'
 
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