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Do we have freewill ? did we have freewill since the beginning ?

I agree. This is only a Reality where the human laws are Replaced by the Living God Himself who does not life under human laws but Replace them with His Presence.
While I am not on staff, I can point out that you are always welcome to start a new thread on this topic about which I'm sure I don't quite get.

In particular, this one
The Living God, Jehovah, is Himself the Head of that particular part of Cyberspace.

Thanks,
Rhema
 
Don't worry Rhema we are all mature people here and forgiven. i'm a patient person with everyone because life has humble me and learn to be patient. The discussion is hard and we are finding that personal mission God has for all of us and it is different for we are different in this world made for one thing in the Eden but later on we use our hands and tools for good things. But it is not why we are here. There is a greater reason God gives us and sometimes thru sufferment and faith we can find it. And this is a discussion rich and shows us truth in the real world to find with time the personal mission God gave us.

I know everyone wants it and met many like you rhema, I know how they do things to obatin the information and what they desire but again wisely I will say to you. It does not belong to me, the wisdom belongs to God and God when we die it will return to him. Pray to God Rhema and he will give it to you. You will find your personal mission and realize it was something else and he made it hard for you. God does that and he did it Moses and David the tests are hard.
 
But will pray for you to find it Rhema even if it is hard, it is worth it. Make a deal with God rhema that you give up smoking and pray he will reveal you the mission. Pray and persist in prayer and he will give it.

Luke 18:1-8

The Parable of the Persistent Widow​


18 Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up. 2 He said: “In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared what people thought. 3 And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, ‘Grant me justice against my adversary.’


4 “For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, ‘Even though I don’t fear God or care what people think, 5 yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won’t eventually come and attack me!’”


6 And the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says. 7 And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? 8 I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”

God will give us the path but we must show perseverance like Jesus said and Justice will be given.
 
While I am not on staff, I can point out that you are always welcome to start a new thread on this topic about which I'm sure I don't quite get.

In particular, this one
Sure. I know I am welcome to start posts. But I have no Guidance yet but to write on posts others started. And use that topic to just guide it a bit in the Direction I Feel to give. And of course that goes for your posts too. Where we can speak about the Way in Which Jesus in His Second coming will be Judge and King. Where His Presence will be the replacement of the laws. Because He can not be Jesus "under the laws of man". It is a Ruling in Wisdom above the laws of mankind. Just as Solomon showed us. And Paul spoke about.

1 Cor. 6:
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
 
Don't worry Rhema we are all mature people here and forgiven.
This is so True, Brother. We are Forgiven and we have to enter the Grace of God by which He did it. And then we enter the 70x7 Perfect Forgiveness too. Where there is no "punishment and retaliation". Just Rebuking in Wisdom those who needs it. What Ukrainian should have done. But because the Light of God's Children are very small and dwarfed by religious Christianity who are the "Babies of God in strife" they are no longer a Light in the World. But they are growing up to be Powerful in Jesus in Wisdom to be the Light again. Then wars etc. will stop. For now we assist where we have the opportunity to raise the "Babies of God" in their Lives in Jesus to enter Wisdom of God when they are Adult Sons in the Name of Jesus.
 
Please accept my apologies, I now realize my language was too harsh.

This is the Greatness of the Humble Child of God who accepted His Forgiveness from God and entered Living in the Life in Jesus which is the end to His Adam/Lucifer pride in himself. Such a Child is able to admit to a mistake He made. Which is very Profound in admitting you were not Edifying in your Gift. Because then you will speak in Love and not a harsh evil spirit.

To ask another Child to accept your mistake in Forgiveness is not for you to rule over. He will decide for Himself to do it or not to do it to his destruction. Because anyone not Forgiving is not being Forgiven by the Living God. This is the Unforgivable Sin because it rejects the Sacrifice of the Living God, Jehovah, in Jesus.

For instance. If Ukrainian Forgave Russia for evading and never took up arms they would have been killed by God if they don't accept that Ukrainian entered the Grace of God towards them and "bowed" before the Truth in Jesus. All knees will bow. Seems Trump is realizing that Ukrainian was also wrong but don't have the Wisdom to really Zoom in on it. This is because Christianity became "luke warm" and is spit out by the Living God. They are no Light from Him anymore.
 
You "think" good and bad angels/spirits do not exist?
Hi Thanks

I would offer.

The spirits of the apostles "sent messenger" . . .(Greek Aggelos)

Aggelos. . . Sounds like "angel" the fake word that was not coined until the 10th century.

So yes, false apostles as well a true sent messengers exist

Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace and bring glad tidings of good things!

A true one sent messenger apostle can be seduced and used as false in order to show God is not served by human hands as a will in any way shape or form.

There are two spirits in conflict. not a unknow number of what some call angels and others call patron saint gods.

We can pray our one Holy Father in heaven not our angels in heaven as if God needed help from the peanut gallery

Satan the spirt of the antichrist that woks in antichrists many false apostles' false prophets teaching oral traditions of mankind. Many antichrists . . .another teaching authority other than sola scriptura The armor of God .it protects us we protect it as it is written . The living word

Satan the antichrist worked in the apostle Peter one of the many antichrists .

Peter used as the man of sin prophesied falsely rebuking our unseen Holy Father and forbid Jesus the Son of man form doing the will of the father

Mathew 16:22Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.;But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
 
Don't worry Rhema we are all mature people here and forgiven.
My harsh language still does not dismiss the fact that you misunderstand and misinterpreted the two passages in Jeremiah. You're just plain wrong in that. The question is, can you learn? (Or do you just follow what your own head makes up?)

the personal mission God gave us.
Mine is to read scripture as it is written, especially in the original languages, and address the religious fantasies that people make up who think they can think, but show no wisdom in understanding what is actually written.

I know everyone wants it and met many like you rhema, I
You know NOTHING about me, and the presumption that you do is beyond bombastic, and reveals a nature that cannot be trusted.

Pray to God Rhema and he will give it to you.
I have asked for wisdom in every prayer since I was six years old. And God has not disappointed. See?? You know nothing about me, and now I'm inclined to believe that you know nothing about God either. You should shut up your smug opinions about others, and look to the huge log in your own eye.

Make a deal with God rhema that you give up smoking
I have NEVER smoked anything in my entire life you False Spirit of lies. (And I never had even a beer until I was twenty seven.)

But I appreciate you finally showing the type of spirit you truly are, and the unclean spirits you consort with.

Pray and persist in prayer and he will give it.
Given what you have just posted, you have only proved it wasn't given to you.

Ex Cathedra,
Rhema
 
My harsh language still does not dismiss the fact that you misunderstand and misinterpreted the two passages in Jeremiah. You're just plain wrong in that. The question is, can you learn? (Or do you just follow what your own head makes up?)

Jeremiah was talking to God and God told him he knew Jeremiah was from heaven. Then he told he had plans. Rhema just like you don't realize God has plans for everyone. And he did sya it not only Jeremiah here more verses.

Psalm 33:11​

The plans of the LORD stand firm forever, the purposes of His heart through all generations.

Psalm 32:8​

I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go; I will counsel you with my eye upon you.

Esther 4:14​

Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

Psalm 139:16:
"Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be". This verse highlights God's foreknowledge and the fact that our lives are planned by Him even before we are born.

  • Psalm 138:8:
    "The Lord will work out His plan for your life". This verse offers encouragement and reassurance that God will guide and lead individuals towards their intended purpose.


  • Psalm 139:13-16:
    "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be". This passage emphasizes the intimate knowledge that God has of each person, even before their birth, and the fact that their lives are planned and purposeful.
 
As we see not only in Jeremiah 29 God said this things. Rhema God didn't say only to him he was from heaven. What only Jeremiah came from heaven ? Then Jesus was not from heaven ? The prophets or humans are not from heaven ? Yes, we are from heaven Rhema. You met your creator and told you why he sent you to earth and ordered you to do what your supposed to do. I see you don't read everything in the bible. And you don't realize we are from heaven.

In esther 4:14 it shows that mordecai was born for such a time. We were sent for purpose and the time and place God planned it. There is a book that God keeps in heaven and every action you made will be recorded like psalm 139 says.

Rhema does the bible say we can from heaven yes we do and he planned us ? Yes our every move is known by God. He does know everything we do before we do it, we are limited to make our decision inside his protection of his law and rules. Can we change our destiny ? Yes, God gave us chances to decide our destiny sometimes we don't know them, some decisions we taken by our parents, and we have yet to make them but God foresaw everything you would try and lets you decide if you can do good or bad with every action you decide.

When you go to college, when you married, when you baptized, and when you decide which way you going to die. He does give you choices. Doing good and evil are the options.

Pray for you Rhema you say you found it been reader of the bible and you found that personal mission ? Good see that this conversation is good and freewill is a good discussion to talk about options. You found your personal mission thanks to scripture we have all talked. Like romans 8:28 everything is for a purpose.

I have NEVER smoked anything in my entire life you False Spirit of lies. (And I never had even a beer until I was twenty seven.)
I said it as an example to make deal with God any situation or habit you have. To help you that is all. That God will give you what you want, hard work and love is part of christian life for us to get that personal mission complete. God's plan are good for us and he wants us to put faith in him he will deliver us. The path to complete is one with tests. Praying for all to accomplish that and God is God. He delivers his purpose and like psalm 33 says he has a heart.

Proverbs 3:5-6
"Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight."
 
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We have found that freewill exist even though the word is modern and reading scripture God he does have a word in hebrew. He has a plan and gave us freedom to choose our life. And we can choose death or life, but still in our life we will have questions and options given to us and different asnwers to answers those questions and options life will give that God created life. He gave us choice to do good or evil and in our life he gave us the option to be baptized and live by love. If you had wisdom and hope and the others gifts God will give over your life the most important is love. To use the decision with God in your life will give you the power to do what you want and do good. God will give you the power !

There is options for all of us and througout our lives we can decide. When we are born we do know what will happen in our life and what gifts god will gives us for the purpose he had for us. For some we went into error and we are in sin. And worst we don't know until we grow up and discovered what life is and see that we came in this world in sin. We discover the law of God and we discover who is God and what he wants from us ? Later in life we listen and we don't, were sent in life without knowing the whole rules of the world and some rules the world puts are copied from the bible and others are made up and not copied from the bible. We do not know why were here ?

Until we are older and experience we ask the question ? Why i'm I here ?

For some lucky ones are born in christianity and found God early and they dedicated to worship God. They made the right decision in life and the others like us made mistakes and errors and we went with God afterwards thank God we made it. To those who haven't decided you have to make that decision and the right decision is to baptized. It is not easy and we all recognized it is hard for all of us and we can't say it will be easy but prayer and praying for you to take it because ti will help you in your life and find that purpose you want.

Freewill lets us have choice and as we discover life we do have choices and with the bible we later find he does gives us more things to make decisions to let us find our purpose. As we see he gives hope, faith, wisdom, love and more things so we can do what were sent here and why ! We must pray for them !


It gives such joy that we are giving tools and we have to be thankful a lot of people before us did not have the advantages we have and we must be thankful. We grow up been taught that we must obey what the world says, what the devil says, and waster our life been fooled by television. I say to you, you don't have to ! You can choose your life and break from the world and it's rules and follow Jesus. Regardless of what people say to you, the world will fail and humans fail but God does not fail ! He won't abandon you. The world is babylon and does not know why there here ! You know God has a plan and we found he's commands and his words tell us how to do his will. He's plans for us. We know he speaks differently from how humans speak and he is greater and a being who is bigger in intelligence and life.
 
When we grow in this world we learn that we do not know who we are ? When we were in heaven we know who is God and he ordered as mission in this world. He sent us to do his commands and when we get here. Life hits us and we have tragedy, promblems when we grow, traumas we forget our childhood, and we don't know what were doing in our life. People we are born speaking babylon, we speak different way than the language of Eden. We were stuck by God and God said to go and confuse them.

Genesis 11:7

7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

God punish man so man cannot go attack God and create the tower of babylon. So they can challenge God and his athourity. Man speaks a variety of language and he does not speak the original Eden and he speaks babble !

When we grow up we are not told everything in the bible or told by the world. We are told to accept the way things are and we cannot change our destiny. We cannot change our sinful nature. And as humanity grew it learned freewill and learned it's limitations in this world. We are given the option to follows the world or follow God, we are given the option decide in a democracy or dicatotorship, we can choose to love or hate. The world is wrong it is in sin. For the law of God has said so and the world repeats the error thruout history and we have read man makes mistakes in history because it is it's nature as animal to need to live, eat, love, suffer, and to want to know why it's here. It must ask the questions and does not know the answer to them ?

Only when we read the bible we discover those answers and learn God's way is the way to find your purpose ! We have read in heaven they worship God and sing Kadosh, kadosh, kadosh Adonai elohei- Tzva'ot ( Holy, holy, holy is the lord God of Hosts ). Some verses explain what they do in heaven and Jesus in a verse explain for example as prayer to do God's will in heaven on earth !

We find God wanted us to sing and worship him in heaven some of you will say that is easy and simple. That is God's plan for all of humanity that was what we were sent to do originally by God when he created this planet. That's God's general plan for all of us. As we arrive were not told to do that we are told to buy our milk. go get a job, pay taxes, spent our whole ife and search why wer and worst for some they didn't find it. Sad and horrible thing that we grow up educated by the system and told lies all our life. That to be part of a social block of civilization, to be who were supposed to be we must obey and not question ?

We must give our money and time to government to find our purpose and later we realzie it's not true ? God sent you help and the bible reveals to you what is God's plan and his word. That wasn't your purpose and God's has a plan for you, a way for you to live life and be happy ? He does give to you, the world wasted you and put you here in the internet to search things and the answer was always in the bible ! You don't have money and you wasted your life doing everything the world told ya and decided for ya. Let me ask when where you smart in life ? When did you do everything you want or the personal mission God sent beside the one to make earth like heaven but finally realize you don't have to do what the world says and you wasted your whole life doing the world's plan ? Apology to you all for being hard on you and being forward !

When did you realize you change your life ? No, you didn't ? Have you accomplish the personal mission ? No, niether ! Your here in life because you don't know what it is ? Because your teachers, parents, and your friends don't know either why God brought them. They thought it is to get a good career and that you pay your taxes. And that's how it supposed to be they want you to get mad and some of them want you to mess up like they did. If you had good parents good and some teachers help, good then ! If your friends were jealous and wanted you to failed because they got messed up and realize all too late. They made the wrong decisions in life and did everything for the world. They know they mess up and want others to fail just so they can feel they achieved something. You found out you made the same mistake as them. Don't want to take responsibility for it, you don't want a solution you just do what everyone does be a victime and blame God or somene else !
 
God gave you his plan and it is what we were made in Eden to do heaven but also he sent you on another mission, the personal one where you must save your dad, save some family member, be in a place in your life where thanks to you actions you saved a person from a car accident or by accident you took someone place in line and thanks to that he went the other way and he didn't make a mistake ! What personal mission he gave it to you, you don't find easy like you want ? You had to go thru you mistakes and the worst no told you it was this hard ! And the worst you search for it and realize the personal mission was for you aunt in your life or your friend but they died and cruel fate you missed it. Your depressed and now you have the one from heaven to make earth like heaven.

Even if you can't do that one you can still do one of God's will in heaven to do unto earth and be in heaven. You can still make it ! God allows it ! I assure you will fail in life and realize your mistakes and wish you had more strength and wisdom to do those things in life you want ! You can't redo life ! You can't take life again and try to fix your errors ! You can't , once you make your decisions they are permament ! You will try and realize if you knew back then what you know you would not make those mistakes, you would do everything to change those futures and want your friends and family with you !



Now it's too late they didn't tell you because they wanted you to fail, the World will betray but God is not like the world ! He will not betray you ! He is not like us that we can die and be deceitful he more is powerful and beyond our small character and needs. So many said God saved them and didn't realize it, God saved their family, and are forever grateful he saved them ;-;. You were tricked by the world and made you waste your money and time and things you didn't need. The word told you to do something else !

You don't have to go that way, you don't ! If you could change it all i'm sure you would of done everything to save them ;-; God put that in your heart to love your family. They don't want you to go save them becuase the world lies and wants to live in sin and doesn't want anyone to advance. Because they want you to carry them and want to decide for you.

No, you can do whatever you want ! You don't tell me what I can't do !

Don't let them tell you what to do they made thier bad decisions in life, God won't ask them ! God's gonna ask you what did you did ? They made their mistakes they made their errors they don't even want to remember. God gave you the chance go take that chance don't regret. You won't make a mistake if you do it for your family you will saved them. What is more important your family or the world ? You can do things now ! Pray to God that he can save them becuase he already has saved others, he will do the same for you because he does loves you with all his heart. Don't give up !


In life you have to make hard decisions and you can't live all your life you didn't do anything. God will move the whole world for you. He has for you and for me. You need to break those walls, you need to do things on your own and show the world your not afraid ! He will help you because he doesn't stop believing in you ! You ask yourself what is more important your family or what people think of you because in the end God's opinion is the one that saved you !

Go break the rules and whatever stopped you from before you can do it now. Don't take no for an answer break the rules. You can do this now !

Becuase now you have the time, now you can do it ! You don't have to get anyone's permission, You don't have to wait, you can go get your family and get your friends. God's plan was for you to be in heaven with your family and friends ! He wants you to be happy forever !


There is something that people didn't tell you, you can always change your destiny. You can change who you are, change your promblems, change you life because you are powerful and the world doesn't want you to know it !

You want to do things ? Here I want you to make it !
 
To ask another Child to accept your mistake in Forgiveness is not for you to rule over. He will decide for Himself to do it or not to do it to his destruction. Because anyone not Forgiving is not being Forgiven by the Living God. This is the Unforgivable Sin because it rejects the Sacrifice of the Living God, Jehovah, in Jesus.

Who decided for you to believe God not seen is the Faithful creator?

Who decided.to lead back those who left their first love, hear God and empowered to believe Him not seen

.His love to continues daily repent sons of God, Christians

Revelation 2:2-6 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:;And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.;Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.(God empowering the believer );Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; (believe God empowered by God) or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.;But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
 
I said it as an example to make deal with God any situation or habit you have.
No.

You slandered my character in the guise of some "word" from the Lord in order to elevate yourself. You took a shot and guessed, and you guessed wrong. I now know you are part of the company described here:

For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed. For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.​
- Jeremiah 29:8-9 KJV

Jeremiah was talking to God and God told him he knew Jeremiah was from heaven.
You lie about scripture. Nowhere in either of the two versions of Jeremiah is this written.

Defend your words. Post the exact scripture which says this.

Rhema



BTW, your post is in violation of the Community Guidelines of this forum.

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