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Do we have freewill ? did we have freewill since the beginning ?

You slandered my character in the guise of some "word" from the Lord in order to elevate yourself. You took a shot and guessed, and you guessed wrong. I now know you are part of the company described here:
I did not slander you ? :O Rhema you are twisting what i'm saying. Or elevate myself niether.

First you apologize then you say this. You don't know what your saying. You contradict yourself.

Prophesy ? When did I put prophesy a future event, I did not prophesy in what I write nowhere did I say prophecy a day about planets exploding or say a date about mountains moving from place to place for Jesus christ I did not put any prophesy ! :O Rhema show me where before you accuse Rhema where I said that !

Speak for yourself.
Here in post 305# You said speak for yourself about what I wrote everyone is not worthy that includes you. And we are not worthy of God, you probably consider yourself elevated. your not worthy says the bible is it incorrect ! It is not !

We are all different and to get our life or find the important personal mission we are all different and yet God says we are splendidly made and he likes us special.

God made us differently and he made us splendidly.

And about Jeremiah, Rhema ! People know God created us and in this psalm show us. God knew us and he sent us here. You Rhema know this but you here saying I made prophesy ? Which I have not writting or made date about planets or anything such written in this forum ! You say prophecy and use scripture to say be sure of what you use becuase I see you used the bible incorrectly to say I made prophecy or such.

Psalm 139:13-16:
"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be". This passage emphasizes the intimate knowledge that God has of each person, even before their birth, and the fact that their lives are planned and purposeful.


We were known from our God and he said not only Jeremiah verse that he knew us and here you say he did not know us. The bible has stated God knows everything the future, the past, and the present. He knows who you are !
Everything he is God !

No, Rhema just because you say so it is not true. The bible just prove your wrong. You have said many things that contradict you, Rhema I do not represent :O. Truly you are not writting God in your heart of love. Here I just realize you don't know your personal mission God sent you. You do not know if God sent you to help someone of your family or you were meant to save your aunt or something else. That you read the word God is good but unfortunately I see who you are. I read scripture Rhema but I just see why they told me not to believe you and other members have told me not to believe your character now I see why ! You just want to ruin it for others, you have bad intention and you make bad judgements.

If you want to say or accuse Rhema be sure you point correctly about someone who made a date or say that way because i'm not prophet that put a date you got that wrong ! And all this you have done is twisting what I said and you just made yourself victim. Rhema I will not put attention to you Rhema you do things incorrectly. Your trying to derail the subject with all your intentions.
4. Stay on topic when replying to someone's thread.

And later saying Jeremiah was not known by God before he was born ? What he is the only human that God knew and the rest of us don't come from heaven. That doesn't work and then after you apologize you do all this :O.

I see Rhema you say one thing and don't check before you post. You don't want people to go find that personal mission, you don't want people to go and discover those things. This thread has done good and many and many Rhema have thank me and like talking they didn't know about freewill and there where words in hebrew that are freewill exist. Again all glory goes to God, Rhema gonna tell ya something wise if you have nothing good to say don't say anything about it. You do not have wisdom and you do not know that personal mission God sent you here. I assure that Rhema because it is not navigating the internet you doing what you do. Instead of you going for your family and doing something to help them to go to heaven. You waste your time here.

I pray for really you really look for that and you do accomplish. I'm am not like you Rhema do wish for you and others to find that mission ! I work harder than you Rhema I have gotten people out of the streets and gave money to 3 or 4 and helped them out. I have done things like that and I do work more than others write more than others because for me it matters those people get a better life. And Rhema you write things only to stop others and you have bad intention only for you to derail this so others won't get it down. You've shown your true intentions. No matter what you will get punish by the lord for those bad intentions. Those things every human was sent here thier personal mission will be done and you'll see God will help them !
 
There is something that people didn't tell you, you can always change your destiny. You can change who you are, change your promblems, change you life because you are powerful and the world doesn't want you to know it !

You want to do things ? Here I want you to make it !

1. First is to ask God why i'm here. He will answer and he will help ya and stat the path for you to know !

Psalm 25:4: "Show me your ways, Lord, teach me your paths."
Philippians 4:6-7: "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
James 1:5: "If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you."
Mark 11:24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.


2. Then Pray to him, pray and pray to him. You will see some have pray for 40 years or more and did not recieve the answer and then they got their stuff.

1 Thessalonians 5:17 "Pray without ceasing."
1 Ephesians 6:18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.

The story of Elizabeth and Zechariah, who waited for a son, is found in Luke 1:5-25
Hannah prayed to God for a son, promising to dedicate him to the Lord's service, as described in 1 Samuel 1:10-11

Prayer is important and will help ya.
 
Do not put attention to Rhema he just want's to ruin things for others and doesn't know how to do things right.
 
Thanks, brother and who decides for you the same?
There is only one God, YHWH, Jehovah/Yahweh, Brother. For you and me.

Isaiah 43: 8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears. 9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the peoples be assembled: who among them can declare this, and show us former things? let them bring their witnesses, that they may be justified; or let them hear, and say, It is truth. 10 Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and I am God. 13 Yea, since the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who can hinder it? [ASV]
What is your religious preference?
God has no religion, Brother. He has Children/Sons. And neither do His Kids have a religion. They have a Daddy in "Abba Father". And they exists in the Name of Jesus.
 
There is only one God, YHWH, Jehovah/Yahweh, Brother. For you and me.

Isaiah 43: 8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears. 9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the peoples be assembled: who among them can declare this, and show us former things? let them bring their witnesses, that they may be justified; or let them hear, and say, It is truth. 10 Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and I am God. 13 Yea, since the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who can hinder it? [ASV]

God has no religion, Brother. He has Children/Sons. And neither do His Kids have a religion. They have a Daddy in "Abba Father". And they exists in the Name of Jesus.

I would think there is no such thing as no religion/belief/ faith . . . . system

Atheists are very religious. Their religion no invisible God as a Faithful Creator. God calls fools

In a wonderful parable in James Christ puts his religious stamp of approval. Mixing the fatherless to represent those before not redeemed and widow not married to Christ the church.

The household of believers, house hold of born-again faith special care and not forgetting the world preach the gospel

James 1:27;Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Galatians 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

Family affair religion.
 
I did not slander you ? :O Rhema you are twisting what i'm saying. Or elevate myself niether.

First you apologize then you say this. You don't know what your saying. You contradict yourself.
You accused me of smoking and declared that I had to do a "deal with God." And now you lie about it.

My apology was for being harsh in that one post. The rest you deserve.

O Rhema show me where before you accuse Rhema where I said that !
I'll attribute your ignorance to a lack of acuity in the English language. No doubt everyone smokes where you live, but not here where I live. You took a shot at me and missed. By "prophecy" one would mean a "Word of knowledge" and you had no actual Word from God that I smoke. You need to apologize to me about that and then repent before God.

And we are not worthy of God, you probably consider yourself elevated. your not worthy says the bible is it incorrect ! It is not !
And now you slander the very words of Christ -
And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.​
- Matthew 10:11 KJV

So speak for yourself. You know nothing about me.

Which I have not writting or made date about planets or anything such written in this forum !
Your understanding of prophecy is woefully lacking if this is your definition. But you never think to question your own understanding do you.

God knew us and he sent us here.
No he didn't. And you cannot provide any scriptures that supports this belief. It's highly Mormon, you know. God gave Adam and Eve the power, the authority, and the right to procreate. There is not "there" where you were to have been sent "here." You think you know more than you actually do.

And about Jeremiah, Rhema !
You've never even read Jeremiah - the real one, in the Greek language - the Jeremiah that Jesus used. Again, you think you know more than you actually do.


The bible has stated God knows everything the future, the past, and the present. He knows who you are !
Yes, and you don't know who I am. However, were God to grant you some wisdom and knowledge into the deep things of creations (as opposed to this superficial cheerleader spiel, you would realize that the Future doesn't exist. Hence God cannot know that which doesn't exist.

"The Bible this and the Bible that," and yet you never quote actual scripture.

Right now, I have better things to do. Let me know by PM when you want to learn the deep truths of God and are done justifying your mistakes.

Rhema
 
No matter what you will get punish by the lord for those bad intentions.
Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.​
- John 9:41 KJV
 
I would think there is no such thing as no religion/belief/ faith . . . . system
Sure. All humans have a religion of some kind. Because religion is from the mind of humans existing in knowledge from the tree of Knowledge.
Atheists are very religious
Sure. Even they are religious and no different from Christians who also have a religion of some kind.
In a wonderful parable in James Christ puts his religious stamp of approval.
Jesus was Alive without religion. Same as humans living their lives without it being a religion. Or even cats living theirs and dogs theirs.
James 1:27;Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
That is "pure religion". Which is not a mind concept but a Life of God Lived. God does not have a religion about Himself. And never gave us one of Himself. He is Living His Life and in Jesus we are Living His Life too.
Galatians 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Another Word from the Living God. Where we "do good" in living it and doing it. In being as our "Abba Father/Daddy, Jehovah" is in being Alive in God Life. It is not a "concept of the mind". But a Life Lived in the Holy Spirit of God. It is not for debating but Living. In Life manifested from God's Children all debating dies down. Because the Truth is seen in it being Lived. We are the Living Bibles.

2 Cor. 3:
1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Jesus was the Living Word/Bible to create Living Bibles. Exactly as He was. Just Greater. Because the Holy Spirit is now Poured out on all Flesh and what He could not create as result we create now.
 
Sure. All humans have a religion of some kind. Because religion is from the mind of humans existing in knowledge from the tree of Knowledge.
Tree of Christ knowledge((sola scriptura) . Not the knowledge of this world Satan false pride.

Jesus was Alive without religion. Same as humans living their lives without it being a religion. Or even cats living theirs and dogs theirs.
Jesus the Son of man was kept alive.(Living sacrifice)

Another Word from the Living God. Where we "do good" in living it and doing it. In being as our "Abba Father/Daddy, Jehovah" is in being Alive in God Life. It is not a "concept of the mind". But a Life Lived in the Holy Spirit of God. It is not for debating but Living. In Life manifested from God's Children all debating dies down. Because the Truth is seen in it being Lived. We are the Living Bibles.
Agree
Jesus was the Living Word/Bible to create Living Bibles. Exactly as He was. Just Greater. Because the Holy Spirit is now Poured out on all Flesh and what He could not create as result we create now.
jesus the Son of man form the dust was a product of the living word of the Father .The "let there be" and "it was the good word"
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Tree of Christ knowledge
Tree of Christ is not knowledge but Life.
Jesus the Son of man was kept alive.(Living sacrifice)
Jesus was the Word of the Creator, YHWH. In the Word of Jesus we enter Living in Jesus with our Father, Jehovah as our "Abba Father/Daddy".
jesus the Son of man form the dust was a product of the living word of the Father
Jesus was the Living Word from The Creator, Jehovah/Yahweh.
 
Tree of Christ is not knowledge but Life.
Hi thanks.

Knowledge of eternal life

Christ as our invisible eternal God is known as "face to face" the unseen eternal to the same eternal. The not seen things of Christ, things of faith in respect to his revealed gospel knowledge (sola scriptura)

2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, (not the son of God Jesus) who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Jesus was the Word of the Creator, YHWH. In the Word of Jesus we enter Living in Jesus with our Father, Jehovah as our "Abba Father/Daddy".
Yes, Jesus the Christ the anointing teaching Holy Spirit of the Holy Father

Not Jesus the Son of man as if he was the faithful and true "Let there be" Creator rather than created and the Son of man, Jesus "it was a good work"
 
Contuining with freewill topic it depends on choice. You can choose but thanks too all this talk and reading scripture God does have a plan and your destiny is a secret to find it. You can do what the prophets and God's people to obtain the personal mission God gives to everyone. Here is the important is that you have freedom and you can change your destiny ! God will help ya, the promblem is fear of the future how things will happen is what makes people afraid of decisions. Unfortunately all decisions have consequence no matter what.

But here people in this modern world don't know hot to trust God, don't know how to have real faith and real love. Be the people of God back in the old days of Israel when we had the good people ! The good people that did have faith and did God tests and survived all his tests. Today people don't know how to find that power or will, world has changed and were still in Babylon.

Can people today be the people God wants to be the people of Israel in the old days ? Yes they can ! Can they do the hard things of the bible ? God lets us choose our actions in God's path. The promblem is do you really want to do God's will or do your will ? It is always our ego and needs that stop us from doing things God's way. Pray and pray. He will help you.
 
Tree of Christ knowledge((sola scriptura) . Not the knowledge of this world Satan false pride.


Jesus the Son of man was kept alive.(Living sacrifice)


Agree

jesus the Son of man form the dust was a product of the living word of the Father .The "let there be" and "it was the good word"
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Jesus was never formed from dust. He is spirit born.
His earthly body was formed from the foods his mother ate and later what he chose to eat though curiously he could fast for 40 days and nights.
 
Some people have ask where I get the information ? Here going to show ya.



Sproul was a pompous fool who claimed he had a direct escalator to heaven despite a lifetime of reading the numerous Bible verses that say the dead go into their graves until Judgment Day!
Batchelor's Revelation 14 is metaphor.
 
Jesus was never formed from dust. He is spirit born.
His earthly body was formed from the foods his mother ate and later what he chose to eat though curiously he could fast for 40 days and nights.
God is not the Son of man, Jesus

All humans a born again of the Spirit of the Father.

Is there a reason you hope God is a man as us?

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Job 9:32=33;For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.;Neither is there any daysman(Pope) betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both
 
Sproul was a pompous fool who claimed he had a direct escalator to heaven despite a lifetime of reading the numerous Bible verses that say the dead go into their graves until Judgment Day!
Batchelor's Revelation 14 is metaphor.
Free will the spiritual food the apostles knew not of the food both (the key) to hear the will and empower us to do it to his good pleasure

John 4:33-35Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? ;Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

it is repeated in Philippian 2 again the key both to hear and to do

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

The better thing that accompanies salvation both to will and do according to the power of His good name

Hebrew 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.;For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

Free will was destroyed in the garden with false prophecy. "Neither shall you touch". Lust of the flesh, lust of the eye took over.
 
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