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Elect according to the foreknowledge of God

Elect before Faith and unto Faith !2


Also God's Elect before Faith or believing or their conversion are the Children of God, they only lack the Spirit of Adoption in their hearts which makes their Sonship manifested ! By it they become the Manifested Children of God by Faith ! Jn 11:52

52And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

In their ungathred state they are unregenerated alientated away from their Shepherd !

That word gather together is the same word for bring in Jn 10:16

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Thats because the Children of God, the Sheep and the Elect are all the same People !

The only difference is that the word gather/bring is joined with the prep syn which means accompaniment, or together.

Its talking about the joining together of both the jew and gentile Sheep or Children of God under the Headship of Christ !

With both of them joined together under Christ we have the entire household of Faith Gal 6:10 the whole Family Eph 3:15

Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

Note: Even in unregenerecy, the Elect children of God, are not the children of the devil, though they share a common fallen nature, and when the children of God have the Spirit of Adoption sent into their heart, they are manifested from the children of the devil 1 Jn 3:10

10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

The children of God are manifested by Faith in Christ Gal 3:26

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Faith is the evidence we are the redeemed children of God, Gods Elect !
 
Elect before Faith and unto Faith !2

Also God's Elect before Faith or believing or their conversion are the Children of God, they only lack the Spirit of Adoption in their hearts which makes their Sonship manifested ! By it they become the Manifested Children of God by Faith ! Jn 11:52

52And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

In their ungathred state they are unregenerated alienated away from their Shepherd !

That word gather together is the same word for bring in Jn 10:16

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Thats because the Children of God, the Sheep and the Elect are all the same People !

The only difference is that the word gather/bring is joined with the prep syn which means accompaniment, or together.

Its talking about the joining together of both the jew and gentile Sheep or Children of God under the Headship of Christ !

With both of them joined together under Christ we have the entire household of Faith Gal 6:10 the whole Family Eph 3:15

Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

Note: Even in unregenerecy, the Elect children of God, are not the children of the devil, though they share a common fallen nature, and when the children of God have the Spirit of Adoption sent into their heart, they are manifested from the children of the devil 1 Jn 3:10

10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

The children of God are manifested by Faith in Christ Gal 3:26

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Faith is the evidence we are the redeemed children of God, Gods Elect ! f
 
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