Figure of speech/colloquialism?
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I might have said it before (written it) but I think I know what you are talking about and I know this has passed my mind a few times over the years, probably in reading others' opening up of ancient culture and language used.
We do the same sort of thing today. Most of us are unaware of the times we use words to say something that actually, if a foreigner was to interpret literally, would lead them on a merry goose chase (there's one example) and if they were to sit with half-baked would-be scholars they would come up with all sorts of conclusions, according to their own present day use and understanding of th words they even use in their culture and language.
I also often wonder what people from the Scripture times would make of many of the words and expressions of today?
If I don't get back here with an example from Scripture, please bump the thread again. It is interesting and could be well worthwhile exploring further.
Meanwhile, is there any specific point or take on any Scripture that you have in mind. Are you interested in a particular verse or passage?
Bless you ....><>
I might have said it before (written it) but I think I know what you are talking about and I know this has passed my mind a few times over the years, probably in reading others' opening up of ancient culture and language used.
We do the same sort of thing today. Most of us are unaware of the times we use words to say something that actually, if a foreigner was to interpret literally, would lead them on a merry goose chase (there's one example) and if they were to sit with half-baked would-be scholars they would come up with all sorts of conclusions, according to their own present day use and understanding of th words they even use in their culture and language.
I also often wonder what people from the Scripture times would make of many of the words and expressions of today?
If I don't get back here with an example from Scripture, please bump the thread again. It is interesting and could be well worthwhile exploring further.
Meanwhile, is there any specific point or take on any Scripture that you have in mind. Are you interested in a particular verse or passage?
Bless you ....><>
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Br. Bear,
re: "Meanwhile, is there any specific point or take on any Scripture that you have in mind. Are you interested in a particular verse or passage?"
Other that what has already been stated, no - at least not for the purpose of this topic. I am merely requesting examples which show that it was common in the 1st century or before to forecast or say that a daytime or a night time would be or was involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could occur.
re: "Meanwhile, is there any specific point or take on any Scripture that you have in mind. Are you interested in a particular verse or passage?"
Other that what has already been stated, no - at least not for the purpose of this topic. I am merely requesting examples which show that it was common in the 1st century or before to forecast or say that a daytime or a night time would be or was involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could occur.
Greetings,
Thank you for your reply,
there is reference to a day being as a thousand years...
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Peter 3:8
Is that a figure of speech or colloquialism?
In John 5:25 we read not of days as you requested but hour(s)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
where while He says it is coming, He also says it now is.
How nice to hear and live!
The same can be seen on John 4:23
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship Him.
however, Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
Bless you ....><>
Thank you for your reply,
Is it possible for you to give some examples of who those 'some' are and also what exactly you think/say/understand they were meaning in saying as you stated they do?
there is reference to a day being as a thousand years...
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Peter 3:8
Is that a figure of speech or colloquialism?
In John 5:25 we read not of days as you requested but hour(s)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
where while He says it is coming, He also says it now is.
How nice to hear and live!
The same can be seen on John 4:23
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship Him.
however, Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
Bless you ....><>
Greeting again,
you might be interested in looking deeply (see all links etc) at this page?
3. The Use Of Three In The Bible
for example:
"It is interesting to note that by analogy the motif of the third day has significant ties to the activities on the Old Testament Feast of Passover-Unleavened Bread, which commemorated God’s redemption of Israel."
and:
"Mark Rooker (Leviticus, The New American Commentary [Nashville: Broadman & Holman, 2000], 285) points out that “these two ceremonies were apparently combined at the beginning, for the passover lamb was to be eaten with unleavened bread (Exod 12:8).” Douglas K. Stuart (Exodus, The New American Commentary [Nashville: Broadman & Holman, 2000], 285) observes that Exodus 12:17, “reiterates the importance of celebrating the Passover feast properly and does so . . . by offering an alternative name for it: ‘The Feast of Unleavened Bread.” The redemptive significance of Passover with its emphasis on the importance of the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (cf. Exod 12:15-17; Lev 23:4-8), therefore, finds fulfillment not only in Christ’s sacrifice (cf. I Cor. 5:7) but also on the first day of the week, the third day of the passion account, the day when Christ’s resurrection became the capstone to His redemptive work. For it is Christ’s resurrection that provides for the fullness of life and vitality, which believers enjoy. Thereafter the first day of the week appropriately became the day of worship and celebration in the early church (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor 16:2). Accordingly, the significance of the third day motif becomes commemorated not only in stated communion services but is fulfilled in and superseded by the importance of the first day of the week with its special spiritual emphasis (cf. Rev 1:10)."
Bless you ....><>
you might be interested in looking deeply (see all links etc) at this page?
3. The Use Of Three In The Bible
for example:
"It is interesting to note that by analogy the motif of the third day has significant ties to the activities on the Old Testament Feast of Passover-Unleavened Bread, which commemorated God’s redemption of Israel."
and:
"Mark Rooker (Leviticus, The New American Commentary [Nashville: Broadman & Holman, 2000], 285) points out that “these two ceremonies were apparently combined at the beginning, for the passover lamb was to be eaten with unleavened bread (Exod 12:8).” Douglas K. Stuart (Exodus, The New American Commentary [Nashville: Broadman & Holman, 2000], 285) observes that Exodus 12:17, “reiterates the importance of celebrating the Passover feast properly and does so . . . by offering an alternative name for it: ‘The Feast of Unleavened Bread.” The redemptive significance of Passover with its emphasis on the importance of the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (cf. Exod 12:15-17; Lev 23:4-8), therefore, finds fulfillment not only in Christ’s sacrifice (cf. I Cor. 5:7) but also on the first day of the week, the third day of the passion account, the day when Christ’s resurrection became the capstone to His redemptive work. For it is Christ’s resurrection that provides for the fullness of life and vitality, which believers enjoy. Thereafter the first day of the week appropriately became the day of worship and celebration in the early church (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor 16:2). Accordingly, the significance of the third day motif becomes commemorated not only in stated communion services but is fulfilled in and superseded by the importance of the first day of the week with its special spiritual emphasis (cf. Rev 1:10)."
Bless you ....><>
and this also is of interest:
Likewise, Abraham obeyed the Lord’s instructions and was prepared to offer his only son Isaac on the third day of his journey to Moriah (Gen 22:4). If as might be expected by the mention of the third day in the narrative the hearer/reader anticipated a seemingly better ending to the account, he was not disappointed. For God Himself supplied a substitute for the sacrifice (vv. 9-14) after which He confirmed to Abraham the earlier promises in the Abrahamic Covenant (vv. 15-18; cf. Gen 12:1-3; 13:14-17; 15:17-18; 17:1-22). It was obvious that Abraham truly believed the Lord (Gen 15:6) and put his full trust in Him, doubtless expecting God to provide the means for granting him the vast number of descendants He had promised (43 To this the writer of Hebrews also testifies, “By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had received the promise was about to sacrifice his one and only son, even thought God had said to him, ‘It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.’ Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking he did receive Isaac back from death” (44
3. The Use Of Three In The Bible
I realize that it is not directly about three days/three nights especially days/nights as you are topiccing about but from another angle, instead, being the three part of that time frame.
If you do read through it, and I recommend that you do, you will see what I mean.
Bless you ....><>
Likewise, Abraham obeyed the Lord’s instructions and was prepared to offer his only son Isaac on the third day of his journey to Moriah (Gen 22:4). If as might be expected by the mention of the third day in the narrative the hearer/reader anticipated a seemingly better ending to the account, he was not disappointed. For God Himself supplied a substitute for the sacrifice (vv. 9-14) after which He confirmed to Abraham the earlier promises in the Abrahamic Covenant (vv. 15-18; cf. Gen 12:1-3; 13:14-17; 15:17-18; 17:1-22). It was obvious that Abraham truly believed the Lord (Gen 15:6) and put his full trust in Him, doubtless expecting God to provide the means for granting him the vast number of descendants He had promised (43 To this the writer of Hebrews also testifies, “By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had received the promise was about to sacrifice his one and only son, even thought God had said to him, ‘It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.’ Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking he did receive Isaac back from death” (44
3. The Use Of Three In The Bible
I realize that it is not directly about three days/three nights especially days/nights as you are topiccing about but from another angle, instead, being the three part of that time frame.
If you do read through it, and I recommend that you do, you will see what I mean.
Bless you ....><>
Br. Bear,
re: "Is it possible for you to give some examples of who those 'some' are and also what exactly you think/say/understand they were meaning in saying as you stated they do?"
I initially asked this question many years ago. Maybe I was having a senior moment at the time by thinking that there were some 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection believers who tried to explain the missing night time of Matthew 12:40 by saying that it was employing common Jewish figure of speech with regard to the counting of days.
At any rate, I may have been perpetuating the question based on a false premise - i.e., the premise that they were saying that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred. They may actually have been saying that it was only a one time usage of the figure of speech/colloquialism. Or maybe not.
re: "there is reference to a day being as a thousand years...But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Peter 3:8 Is that a figure of speech or colloquialism?"
It may very well be a figure of speech.
re: "Is it possible for you to give some examples of who those 'some' are and also what exactly you think/say/understand they were meaning in saying as you stated they do?"
I initially asked this question many years ago. Maybe I was having a senior moment at the time by thinking that there were some 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection believers who tried to explain the missing night time of Matthew 12:40 by saying that it was employing common Jewish figure of speech with regard to the counting of days.
At any rate, I may have been perpetuating the question based on a false premise - i.e., the premise that they were saying that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred. They may actually have been saying that it was only a one time usage of the figure of speech/colloquialism. Or maybe not.
re: "there is reference to a day being as a thousand years...But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Peter 3:8 Is that a figure of speech or colloquialism?"
It may very well be a figure of speech.
Greetings rstrats,
thank you for explaining that to me. I appreciate it.
It may be that like some here have tried to explain, that those from years ago may have been touching on much the same thing, ie, that the days began at sunset and ended at sunset and that a portion of a day could be counted as a day.
A bit like say that today you went to the bakery and saw a helium balloon high up in the sky.
What time it was may be recounted as the morning or afternoon, but over time it may simply be remembered as a day, a certain day, the whole day being mentioned, not part of it nor the few minutes of it.
One remarkable thing we have in Scripture is the more minute details at times of the time of day things did happen. Fairly meticulous story telling passed on for centuries, and one must ask as to why such detail would be passed on and kept.....
The whole Jewish way was a serious thing and each detail pertaining to the LORD was to be recorded, which in turn left no excuse for saying that it was through ignorance that they did or didn't do something.
I recall a part of Scripture where a young King was attempting to put things right after previous kings had allowed and led the people astray. While he did all he could to do what was right, it happened one day that they found a scroll in the ruins that were being sorted as rebuilding progressed and when discovered it was the Law, he realized the exactness that was required of Israel in keeping of the Law and right living and from there went about ridding the idols and other wicked things from amongst them.
Point being that the Scriptures tell us enough and yet we sometimes get so entrenched in dissecting them looking for things that are not written in them that we forget the things which are told us in them.
Bless you ....><>
below is from 2Kings chapter 22 and 23.
You can also read an account in 2Chronicles chapters 34 and 35
thank you for explaining that to me. I appreciate it.
It may be that like some here have tried to explain, that those from years ago may have been touching on much the same thing, ie, that the days began at sunset and ended at sunset and that a portion of a day could be counted as a day.
A bit like say that today you went to the bakery and saw a helium balloon high up in the sky.
What time it was may be recounted as the morning or afternoon, but over time it may simply be remembered as a day, a certain day, the whole day being mentioned, not part of it nor the few minutes of it.
One remarkable thing we have in Scripture is the more minute details at times of the time of day things did happen. Fairly meticulous story telling passed on for centuries, and one must ask as to why such detail would be passed on and kept.....
The whole Jewish way was a serious thing and each detail pertaining to the LORD was to be recorded, which in turn left no excuse for saying that it was through ignorance that they did or didn't do something.
I recall a part of Scripture where a young King was attempting to put things right after previous kings had allowed and led the people astray. While he did all he could to do what was right, it happened one day that they found a scroll in the ruins that were being sorted as rebuilding progressed and when discovered it was the Law, he realized the exactness that was required of Israel in keeping of the Law and right living and from there went about ridding the idols and other wicked things from amongst them.
Point being that the Scriptures tell us enough and yet we sometimes get so entrenched in dissecting them looking for things that are not written in them that we forget the things which are told us in them.
Bless you ....><>
below is from 2Kings chapter 22 and 23.
You can also read an account in 2Chronicles chapters 34 and 35
1Josiah was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty and one years in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Jedidah, the daughter of Adaiah of Boscath. 2And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in all the way of David his father, and turned not aside to the right hand or to the left.
3And it came to pass in the eighteenth year of king Josiah, that the king sent Shaphan the son of Azaliah, the son of Meshullam, the scribe, to the house of the LORD, saying, 4Go up to Hilkiah the high priest, that he may sum the silver which is brought into the house of the LORD, which the keepers of the door have gathered of the people: 5And let them deliver it into the hand of the doers of the work, that have the oversight of the house of the LORD: and let them give it to the doers of the work which is in the house of the LORD, to repair the breaches of the house, 6Unto carpenters, and builders, and masons, and to buy timber and hewn stone to repair the house. 7Howbeit there was no reckoning made with them of the money that was delivered into their hand, because they dealt faithfully.
8And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan, and he read it. 9And Shaphan the scribe came to the king, and brought the king word again, and said, Thy servants have gathered the money that was found in the house, and have delivered it into the hand of them that do the work, that have the oversight of the house of the LORD. 10And Shaphan the scribe shewed the king, saying, Hilkiah the priest hath delivered me a book. And Shaphan read it before the king.
11And it came to pass, when the king had heard the words of the book of the law, that he rent his clothes. 12And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achbor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asahiah a servant of the king's, saying, 13Go ye, inquire of the LORD for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the LORD that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us.
14So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the collegeand they communed with her. 15And she said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Tell the man that sent you to me, 16Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read: 17Because they have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me to anger with all the works of their hands; therefore my wrath shall be kindled against this place, and shall not be quenched. 18But to the king of Judah which sent you to inquire of the LORD, thus shall ye say to him, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, As touching the words which thou hast heard; 19Because thine heart was tender, and thou hast humbled thyself before the LORD, when thou heardest what I spake against this place, and against the inhabitants thereof, that they should become a desolation and a curse, and hast rent thy clothes, and wept before me; I also have heard thee, saith the LORD. 20Behold therefore, I will gather thee unto thy fathers, and thou shalt be gathered into thy grave in peace; and thine eyes shall not see all the evil which I will bring upon this place. And they brought the king word again.
1And the king sent, and they gathered unto him all the elders of Judah and of Jerusalem. 2And the king went up into the house of the LORD, and all the men of Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem with him, and the priests, and the prophets, and all the people, both small and great: and he read in their ears all the words of the book of the covenant which was found in the house of the LORD. 3And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant.
4And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order, and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the LORD all the vessels that were made for Baal, and for the grove, and for all the host of heaven: and he burned them without Jerusalem in the fields of Kidron, and carried the ashes of them unto Bethel. 5And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven. 6And he brought out the grove from the house of the LORD, without Jerusalem, unto the brook Kidron, and burned it at the brook Kidron, and stamped it small to powder, and cast the powder thereof upon the graves of the children of the people. 7And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove. 8And he brought all the priests out of the cities of Judah, and defiled the high places where the priests had burned incense, from Geba to Beersheba, and brake down the high places of the gates that were in the entering in of the gate of Joshua the governor of the city, which were on a man's left hand at the gate of the city. 9Nevertheless the priests of the high places came not up to the altar of the LORD in Jerusalem, but they did eat of the unleavened bread among their brethren. 10And he defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the children of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech. 11And he took away the horses that the kings of Judah had given to the sun, at the entering in of the house of the LORD, by the chamber of Nathanmelech the chamberlain, which was in the suburbs, and burned the chariots of the sun with fire. 12And the altars that were on the top of the upper chamber of Ahaz, which the kings of Judah had made, and the altars which Manasseh had made in the two courts of the house of the LORD, did the king beat down, and brake them down from thence, and cast the dust of them into the brook Kidron. 13And the high places that were before Jerusalem, which were on the right hand of the mount of corruption, which Solomon the king of Israel had builded for Ashtoreth the abomination of the Zidonians, and for Chemosh the abomination of the Moabites, and for Milcom the abomination of the children of Ammon, did the king defile. 14And he brake in pieces the images, and cut down the groves, and filled their places with the bones of men.
15Moreover the altar that was at Bethel, and the high place which Jeroboam the son of Nebat, who made Israel to sin, had made, both that altar and the high place he brake down, and burned the high place, and stamped it small to powder, and burned the grove. 16And as Josiah turned himself, he spied the sepulchres that were there in the mount, and sent, and took the bones out of the sepulchres, and burned them upon the altar, and polluted it, according to the word of the LORD which the man of God proclaimed, who proclaimed these words. 17Then he said, What title is that that I see? And the men of the city told him, It is the sepulchre of the man of God, which came from Judah, and proclaimed these things that thou hast done against the altar of Bethel. 18And he said, Let him alone; let no man move his bones. So they let his bones alone, with the bones of the prophet that came out of Samaria. 19And all the houses also of the high places that were in the cities of Samaria, which the kings of Israel had made to provoke the LORD to anger, Josiah took away, and did to them according to all the acts that he had done in Bethel. 20And he slew all the priests of the high places that were there upon the altars, and burned men's bones upon them, and returned to Jerusalem.
21And the king commanded all the people, saying, Keep the passover unto the LORD your God, as it is written in the book of this covenant. 22Surely there was not holden such a passover from the days of the judges that judged Israel, nor in all the days of the kings of Israel, nor of the kings of Judah; 23But in the eighteenth year of king Josiah, wherein this passover was holden to the LORD in Jerusalem.
24Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the LORD. 25And like unto him was there no king before him, that turned to the LORD with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his might, according to all the law of Moses; neither after him arose there any like him.
26Notwithstanding the LORD turned not from the fierceness of his great wrath, wherewith his anger was kindled against Judah, because of all the provocations that Manasseh had provoked him withal. 27And the LORD said, I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel, and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen, and the house of which I said, My name shall be there.
Br. Bear,
re: "It may be that like some here have tried to explain, that those from years ago may have been touching on much the same thing, ie, that the days began at sunset and ended at sunset and that a portion of a day could be counted as a day."
And I agree. But where was a daytime or a night time ever counted as a daytime or a night time when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred?
re: "It may be that like some here have tried to explain, that those from years ago may have been touching on much the same thing, ie, that the days began at sunset and ended at sunset and that a portion of a day could be counted as a day."
And I agree. But where was a daytime or a night time ever counted as a daytime or a night time when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred?
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@rstrats
Fortunately glorifying in the Oness of God is lawful.
Jer 9:24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.
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But I suspect I went too far with the information .
Jer 9:23 Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
Pro 10:19 In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.
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My IP address on this site has been "or had been" blocked and after reflection that is not a bad thing. Especially considering I do not see myself as blameless and some good has come out of it.
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It is not my intentions to make any more posts however I did partially cover that topic here.
What is Easter, and why do Christians celebrate this holiday?
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Lastly The Son dying on the 7th day of the week "on Passover" and resurrecting on the third day of the week "feast of unleavened bread 3rd day" also hinges on a 364 day calendar. Information on this calendar is contained in the Book of Enoch and also the Book of Jubilees or little genesis.
Fortunately glorifying in the Oness of God is lawful.
Jer 9:24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.
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But I suspect I went too far with the information .
Jer 9:23 Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
Pro 10:19 In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.
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My IP address on this site has been "or had been" blocked and after reflection that is not a bad thing. Especially considering I do not see myself as blameless and some good has come out of it.
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It is not my intentions to make any more posts however I did partially cover that topic here.
What is Easter, and why do Christians celebrate this holiday?
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Lastly The Son dying on the 7th day of the week "on Passover" and resurrecting on the third day of the week "feast of unleavened bread 3rd day" also hinges on a 364 day calendar. Information on this calendar is contained in the Book of Enoch and also the Book of Jubilees or little genesis.
All praises to FATHER AHAYAH YASHAYAH WA RAACH!
Evening and morning was the first day and that's the correct time we keep throughout every generation!
So from sundown to sundown is a day.
The sabbath begins Friday sundown (which is the start of Saturday) to Saturday sundown (which is the end of Saturday)
CHRIST YASHAYAH was already risen before Mary went to the tomb.
The stones were already rolled away.
CHRIST YASHAYAH rose on the Sabbath before the next day began.
Blessings!
Evening and morning was the first day and that's the correct time we keep throughout every generation!
So from sundown to sundown is a day.
The sabbath begins Friday sundown (which is the start of Saturday) to Saturday sundown (which is the end of Saturday)
CHRIST YASHAYAH was already risen before Mary went to the tomb.
The stones were already rolled away.
CHRIST YASHAYAH rose on the Sabbath before the next day began.
Blessings!
Lacawar,
re: "So you say."
If that means you disagree, I wonder if you would point out where you provided examples which show that it was common to forecast or say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have been?
re: "So you say."
If that means you disagree, I wonder if you would point out where you provided examples which show that it was common to forecast or say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have been?
