Give Me an Answer - In the Beginning God, or In the Beginning Hydrogen.

[lentz]

The Holy Spirit always has a way to disseminate - on God's schedule, for in the last days, "many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." God will use whatever resources available to spread the Word, even a person who's blind, dumb and deaf like Helen Keller could get to know God, you leave that to God and don't worry about that. The only question is whether the audience is willing to listen and accept it.

I agree. But you originally had him confined to a book.
If i misunderstood i apologize

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I agree. But you originally had him confined to a book.
If i misunderstood i apologize

In my understanding, the Holy Spirit moves as God's people move. It had been confined in Europe for like a thousand years, the Crusade was the first time it broke out into the middle east, then through the geographic discovery and colonization it slowly spread to the whole world, and at last it will go back to Jerusalem, God's original chosen people will finally accept their messiah. Nevertheless, it's never confined to a book. By reading and studying the bible you can know ABOUT Jesus, about you have to personally come and taste Him, only then can you truly know Him.

 

[lentz]

In my understanding, the Holy Spirit moves as God's people move. It had been confined in Europe for like a thousand years, the Crusade was the first time it broke out into the middle east, then through the geographic discovery and colonization it slowly spread to the whole world, and at last it will go back to Jerusalem, God's original chosen people will finally accept their messiah. Nevertheless, it's never confined to a book. By reading and studying the bible you can know ABOUT Jesus, about you have to personally come and taste Him, only then can you truly know Him.

I see. My understanding is that the Spirit can move with or without people.
Put an unbeliever in a rocket ship and send him out into space. The Holy Spirit will still convict.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I see. My understanding is that the Spirit can move with or without people.
Put an unbeliever in a rocket ship and send him out into space. The Holy Spirit will still convict.

There's GENERAL revelation of God and PERSONAL revelation of God. Again, GENERAL revelation is everywhere, the Creator's handiwork is all around, through which you can know ABOUT God and become a deist, such as in a rocket ship into space; but to know God requires personal revelation, the only way is through Jesus - whose body is the church, in which the Holy Spirit dwells, so ...

 

[lentz]

There's GENERAL revelation of God and PERSONAL revelation of God. Again, GENERAL revelation is everywhere, the Creator's handiword is all around, through which you can know ABOUT God, such as in a rocket ship into space; but to know God requires personal revelation, the only way is through Jesus - whose body is the church, in which the Holy Spirit dwells, so ...

Ok. We will leave it there.
Thanks for the discussion brother.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

John you are so close, and i love you my brother.

There are indeed some things that are a mystery.

"I spend my life to know
And I'm far from close
to all you are
The greatness of our God"
-Darlene Zschech, Greatness of Our God

 

[Curtis]

Psa 139:7 I can never escape from your Spirit! I can never get away from your presence!
Psa 139:8 If I go up to heaven, you are there; if I go down to the grave, you are there.
Psa 139:9 If I ride the wings of the morning, if I dwell by the farthest oceans,
Psa 139:10 even there your hand will guide me, and your strength will support me. (NLT)

 

[Bill]

Psa 139:7 I can never escape from your Spirit! I can never get away from your presence!
Psa 139:8 If I go up to heaven, you are there; if I go down to the grave, you are there.
Psa 139:9 If I ride the wings of the morning, if I dwell by the farthest oceans,
Psa 139:10 even there your hand will guide me, and your strength will support me. (NLT)

But i still get laughed at when i tell others (when setting a game up) God is here, with us as we play this game.

I think, you and few others will like this.

God's love for us is so intimate, so tender, that He sets us up for moments that stand out.

300 yrs ago, a tree is planted. An Indian, with tenderness finds a sapling at the edge of a cliff. He uproots it, and replants it in a nice field, where it grows in the glory of God.
Now this Oak tree, large with branches splayed out, is struck by lightning. Causes a split in the trunk. The tree lives on.
As time goes on, dust settles in the crack, leaves fall and get stuck. A natural mulch, and it becomes a bed for seeds.
One day you are walking along. And you see the strangest thing. Flowers blooming in a crack in a tree.

This is how tender God's love is. All this has been prepared for YOU, at this moment.