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"God's Not Black" - A new series that should be pursued.

MedicBravo

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The title alone will get people's attention.
Unlike Bill, Ted, and Death's meeting with God who like directly at him with no ill effects, can we look upon God in Heaven? Probably but will we see defined facial features? Unlikely.
Now Jesus? Of course.
This brings us to our Parents. Adam and Eve. As they were created they didn't have belly buttons.
As DNA is a VERY powerful thing who knows what they were? What they were isn't important but given the 3 major "races" (hate using that) then a middle skin tone would be the most likely.
Two white parents can NOT produce a black child.
One example are twins from a black or brown parents who had one black and one white child. The white girl looks almost the same except for skin color. Another East Indian couple (brown) had a white child. She looks like a pale Indian to the point where the Indians don't accept her and she doesn't feel she fits in with whites.
There as no such concept back then. Noah = Shem, Ham, Japeth.
Shem - Jews. Arabs. etc.
Ham - Blacks
Japheth - Caucasians. Whites and Asians.

You can put this "God is a woman." nonsense in the trash where it belongs.
Jesus was a Middle Eastern Jew - He was also tanned from constant sun exposure.
Humanity did NOT start in Africa. The three rivers listed in Genesis are NOT in Africa.
Back to DNA. Albinos and mixed races to the point where there is a notable difference are not common.
To stats and facts:
Look at the crime rate in America and the world. Look at who makes up the terrorists groups. Cain was the first murderer but given the Flood his "people" were killed.
Those without God AND those given facts and stats further narrow the line.
Evil uses Race as a great tool to divide humanity. You can thank the Nazi George Soros for funding Burn Loot Murder and has actively stated he will divide America through racial hostility. That is another topic but we cannot be blind to this.
The last church I went to was great for a time. I saw my brothers and sister Christians not: old Christian, fat Christian, Black or white Christian, female or male Christian. They were obvious but NOT a focal point.
 
There as no such concept back then. Noah = Shem, Ham, Japeth.
Shem - Jews. Arabs. etc.
Ham - Blacks
Japheth - Caucasians. Whites and Asians.
You are preaching evolution.
And an impossible evolution at that given our current human racial types diversity being achieved in just 4,370 years.
 
I am not.
Evolution is the delusions they believe: No life - rocks create life - microorganisms - fish - lizards -apes - Us.
Very different than the numerous combinations of skin color, eye color, hair color, and external features.
We are still human regardless.
The Bible shows where humanity originated and how.
It's it easily possible for that to happen and since the age of marriage and having kids was lower then two people can do it and it's been done twice.
 
The Bible shows where humanity originated and how.
You are claiming that the entire diversity of human races have evolved from just two people some 6,000 years ago.
If you also claim that Noah's Flood was planetwide and drowned everybody in the world except 8 persons then you are claiming in less than 5,000 years the entire diversity of human beings
somehow evolved from just these four couples.
Please provide your evidence for this.
 
It's not a claim.
Adam and Eve and their kids and so on filled the Earth until the Flood. Then it was three people and their wives and so on. You are trying to put Modernism on a people and time that don't exist. People still lived a very long time back then.

Most importantly: "following the Flood, however, the Bible records a progressive decline in the life span of the patriarchs, from Noah, who lived to be 950 years old, until Abraham at 175 (see figure 1 and table 2). In fact, Moses was unusually old for his time (120 years) because, when he reflected on the brevity of life, he said: “The days of our lives are seventy years; and if by reason of strength they are eighty years, yet their boast is only labor and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away” (Psalm 90:10).

As Europeans are from Jepath and his wife and we are the most numerous than me and my Clan did not waste time "getting busy".
In almost every culture there IS a record of a global flood.
There are people who know a lot more than I or you and I suggest you learn better.
 
As Europeans are from Jepath and his wife and we are the most numerous than me and my Clan did not waste time "getting busy".
In almost every culture there IS a record of a global flood.
There are people who know a lot more than I or you and I suggest you learn better.
You are totally avoiding the issue.
There are people who know a lot more than I or you and I suggest you learn better.
I suggest that you learn better.
Please provide evidence that the peoples of east Asia, the peoples of the Americas, the peoples of south Asia, the peoples of Africa, the peoples of Melanesia, all came into being from just four couples
in less than 5,000 years.
 
You are totally avoiding the issue.

I suggest that you learn better.
Please provide evidence that the peoples of east Asia, the peoples of the Americas, the peoples of south Asia, the peoples of Africa, the peoples of Melanesia, all came into being from just four couples
in less than 5,000 years.
I'm not avoiding anything. Nice try.
Remind you where you are and the Bible is not a denier of science nor history.
Did you miss the linked article above and forget the Bible? There's plenty to support it.

You also need to forget this "multiple race" garbage.
Differences in our outer appearances like skin, hair, eye color, and others do not suddenly make a new race of humans. Multiple/different races are simply a diversive tactic.
Like everyone who has this problem you are looking at it from a limited, flawed, humanistic POV. You need to break out of it.

Evidence does not have to be physical. Evidence can come from many things and much of the physical evidence won't be seen by us in person.
 
I don't engage in all this color stuff I simply believe if ya see color you yourself is in darkness

FYI it's written Adam made from earth eve from bone soo seems obvious for those who r becoming child like I presume that's why it is written
Colors shapes r a way for the devil to pull you into distraction n cause more division among people

Personally imma stick with what we r told to do

Learn to do good
✌️Twistie
 
You are totally avoiding the issue.

I suggest that you learn better.
Please provide evidence that the peoples of east Asia, the peoples of the Americas, the peoples of south Asia, the peoples of Africa, the peoples of Melanesia, all came into being from just four couples
in less than 5,000 years.
Waggles , I think you are good at this, in research. Wonder how many people have die since 2000 until know, I think the number is censored. I keeps coming to my mind, but every time I taken on the task, a deep sleep come over me and I cannot hold my eyes open,

Shortly people will be dying like Flies, I think the increase of death have been growing at recorded numbers. deaths PERIOD, It does not matter how they are dying. just trying to get that number according to The "NEW MATH" calculations. the reason why: to see if it relates to the book or Revelations.


sorry for interrupting..,
 
Evidence does not have to be physical. Evidence can come from many things and much of the physical evidence won't be seen by us in person.
Your entire blog on this topic is full of waffle and speculation.
You are unable to provide any evidence that the peoples of sub-Sahara Africa are the progeny of a Mesopotamian family, nor can you prove with any evidence that the Chinese or the indigenous peoples
of the Americas are directly descended from Noah's family.
 
Did you miss the linked article above and forget the Bible? There's plenty to support it.
"But Genesis, the rest of the Bible, and Jesus teach that all mankind arose from Noah's three sons and their wives."

And where is this claim in scripture??
 
I don't engage in all this color stuff I simply believe if ya see color you yourself is in darkness

FYI it's written Adam made from earth eve from bone soo seems obvious for those who r becoming child like I presume that's why it is written
Colors shapes r a way for the devil to pull you into distraction n cause more division among people

Personally imma stick with what we r told to do

Learn to do good
✌️Twistie
  • Your belief is misguided. You can't ignore the evidence. In America, blacks are a minority yet they commit more crime than the rest of us combined. In almost every article or news report of a crime a high majority of criminals are black. You can try that all you want but again you cannot ignore the facts.
  • I know full well about Adam, Eve, and Genesis. They are not the topic.
  • Humanity will never come together. People will always be divided over something and George Soros is one of the main ones behind it here in America.
  • Do your thing but for the 3rd time you can not ignore the facts.
  • America is not a Christian country. Founded on the beliefs of and principles of God and the Bible yes but by no means a Christian nation even before all this mess.
No child will be on forever and given your "becoming childlike" a Christian grows and improves. He/she doesn't stay stagnant.
 
"But Genesis, the rest of the Bible, and Jesus teach that all mankind arose from Noah's three sons and their wives."

And where is this claim in scripture??
So I have to spoon feed you now?
There are atheists who know Genesis and the Flood who probably have barely read the Bible or were told by someone else at some point in attempt to teach them.
Are you a Christian or not? Regardless, how well do you know the Bible b/c if you do at the very least you'd know these two parts and in our history.
 
Are you a Christian or not? Regardless, how well do you know the Bible b/c if you do at the very least you'd know these two parts and in our history.
I know the Bible fairly well - that is why I asked you to provide the scripture to support your claim
"But Genesis, the rest of the Bible, and Jesus teach that all mankind arose from Noah's three sons and their wives."
That is not in scripture.
 
Your entire blog on this topic is full of waffle and speculation.
You are unable to provide any evidence that the peoples of sub-Sahara Africa are the progeny of a Mesopotamian family, nor can you prove with any evidence that the Chinese or the indigenous peoples
of the Americas are directly descended from Noah's family.
@MedicBravo
I am still awaiting your evidence to prove that all variations of human beings came from 8 Mesopotamian people in less than 5,000 years.
 
@MedicBravo
I am still awaiting your evidence to prove that all variations of human beings came from 8 Mesopotamian people in less than 5,000 years.
I gave you some and a place you start. You have placed a specific answer and if I or someone else doesn't give the answer you want, then "It's wrong." Typical Leftist thinking.
The fact I have to spell this out for the mind of a 5 year old with crayons is absurd and laughable.

  • People lived a lot longer back then. At least 800 years or so. Plenty of time to have lots of sex and children.
  • Twins and triples happened throughout history.
  • Four couples. 8 people.
  • From that more people you have of breeding age who also live a long time and the cycle repeats.
  • Most important FACT is if there was no global flood then there would be a LOT more people today.
  • The Bible and the secular history doesn't name EVERY SINGLE PERSON born but one can infer information from what is give along with logic and common sense.
Determine a birth rate for each couple. Give that each has at least two but given the long life they easily have 4+.
Take Enoch and he has a child ever 4 years (Example) Assume each offspring doesn't have their fist until 110 or so and then they have a kid every 10 years after.
The number 117 years is the average age of the patriarchs when they had their first child as given in Genesis 5:1-32 and 11:10-32. There were other children born as well, likely but again the Bible isn't a list of everyone born and who lived.
Using these assumptions, Enoch would have had 11 children in 117 years. Now we assume that each of these children had their first child at age 117 years and produced children about every 10 years, and their children followed the same pattern.

So if we divide 1,526 years (the number of years from Enoch to the flood), by 117 years (the period of procreation) we obtain 13. Now the formula for computing the world’s population by the time of Noah’s flood is given by the summation of,

summation





This summation represents the number of children born to each descendant over 13 periods of 117 years each for a total of 1,526 years, starting from the birth of Seth when Adam and Eve were 130 years of age. The summation can be computed using the following well-known formula,

world-population





where a = 11, n=13. The result is 38 trillion people.

Thirty-eight trillion people is more than 7.4 billion people. We started the calculation with Seth and ignored all of the other families on the earth at the time of Seth. We ignored the actual death rate but that will not affect the total since we assumed they starting giving birth at 117 years of age and stopped giving birth 117 years after the first child was born.

You are here on a Christian site and questioning and "suggesting" some of it isn't real. You don't get to pick and choose. People tend to get "upset" when proven wrong especially by an Authority they cannot affect. I and countless people are open to learning better. Maybe you should to.
 
People lived a lot longer back then. At least 800 years or so. Plenty of time to have lots of sex and children.
What has any of this to do with the claim that all the variations of different peoples in different parts of the world all came from just 8 persons of Mesopotamian origin ??
You are full of waffle and red herrings galore.
Plus your rudeness does you no credit.

"But Genesis, the rest of the Bible, and Jesus teach that all mankind arose from Noah's three sons and their wives."
That is not in scripture.
I am also waiting for you to answer this - why are you avoiding providing scripture to back up your assertions ??
Most likely because there is no scripture to support this claim.
 
What has any of this to do with the claim that all the variations of different peoples in different parts of the world all came from just 8 persons of Mesopotamian origin ??
You are full of waffle and red herrings galore.
Plus your rudeness does you no credit.


I am also waiting for you to answer this - why are you avoiding providing scripture to back up your assertions ??
Most likely because there is no scripture to support this claim.
Scripture does not and cannot given an answer to everything.
The Bible states Adam lives to be 930. Being a perfect human like Adam could easily have children at hundreds of years old. Your problem is your mindset is still flawed.
I think Numbers is full of ancestry and who's related to who as well as how long they lived.
I've answered the question.
People who know far more than you have answered it. You don't take God and the Bible as 100% true
Believe me or not, I don't care. Funny you think you have the right answer.
"Science" isn't going to give an answer b/c you value it and this world's opinions more than learning the truth.
 
There is a description of God our FATHER. He is male.
A spirit can be male or female but regarding the Trinity, both God and Jesus are male. The Holy Spirit if anything is one where sex/gender is irrelevant.
We are based on Him.
Given our DNA and how amazing it is as well as the mathematical formula on our being descended from Noah we can infer many things.

British couple has 'black-and-white twins' twice​


Mother reveals she's forced to explain to strangers that her mixed race twins are related​


Many examples. A white couple cannot have a black or brown baby. The genes for skin, hair, and eye color are generally double dominant.
An Indian couple had a daughter but she is so white that her Indian culture didn't accept her.
One must be reminded that any spiritual force can and does affect the material world. God as the Creator is not bound by "the rules".
He appears human but that is flawed as we are based on Him.

  1. He is a spirit but has a human appearance.
  2. God is a person. Self aware. Self-determination. Intelligence. Emotion. Will.
  3. God is life.
  4. Self existent. Has always existed. Belief or unbelief doesn't change anything.
  5. Never improving. Already Perfect
  6. Exists as three persons as He always has.
We have a flawed understanding of God. No human could EVER explain who and what God is with any accuracy.
I had someone so delusional they kept repeating "God is not a man." We are mankind. God is MALE. There is a difference.
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Ezekiel 1:26-28 declares, “Above the expanse over their heads was what looked like a throne of sapphire, and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man. I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him.” Revelation 1:14-16 proclaims, “His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, and out of his mouth came a sharp double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.”

These passages represent Ezekiel’s and John’s best attempts at describing the appearance of God. They had to use symbolic language to describe that for which human language has no words; i.e., “what appeared like,” “like the appearance,” “he looked like,” etc. We do know that when we are in heaven, “we shall see Him as He is” (1 John 3:2). Sin will be no more, and we will be able to perceive God in all His glory."
We know he has white hair. Short/long? It doesn't matter. Feet? 10 fingers and 10 toes. Belly button? No. That is only for those born of a woman.
Being the the Creator can He take physical form? Of course.
When we see God we should see Him similar to ourselves b/c He made us "like Him".
I'm sure his appearance would radiate Authority, Power. Perfect. Holy. Many things.
Note the verses above. God is so outside of our flawed brains to comprehend they did the best they could. If you saw something you couldn't explain you'd use whatever words you knew to describe it.
 
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