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Heavy metal music is wrong

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I dont think there is anything wrong with christian rock/metal it just depends on who it is. Like Skillet is a good group ive been following them around on their tours sense I was 13 I am 22 now. They are really nice people and they are christians... I even heard that As I lay dying is christian too.
 
I even heard that As I lay dying is christian too
They are, as are Flyleaf, Demon Hunter, Red, and Underoath, to name a few popular ones.
 
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Religious people are always afraid of something different than they know.

Amen to that brother, I agree with you. Music itself is not demonic. Its the message. Music has no words until the message is inserted, so how can music (instrumentally) be demonic?

Here are some excellent articles to read:

Contemporary Christian music - is it honoring to God? Should it be used in church services?
Was Satan in charge of music in Heaven?

To quote another article:

The Bible nowhere condemns any particular style of music. The Bible nowhere declares any particular musical instrument to be ungodly. The Bible mentions numerous kinds of string instruments and wind instruments. While the Bible does not specifically mention drums, it does mention other percussion instruments (Psalm 68:25; Ezra 3:10). Nearly all of the forms of modern music are variations and/or combinations of the same types of musical instruments, played at different speeds or with heightened emphasis. There is no biblical basis to declare any particular style of music to be ungodly or outside of God’s will.
 
I personally don't see any instrument or style of music as being evil(even if it's secular) unless it has specifically stated that it's satanic or pagan(in which you would think it's evil). I think something is evil if it condones or promotes unmorally straight things. BTW, I've heard a Christian death metal band before, don't remember the name but, it was kinda surprising.
 
We are encouraged to renew our minds from worldly thinking to Godly thinking.

PHP 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things. 9 Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me--put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.

Can you honestly say the music and it's lyrics pass the be Holy for I am Holy test?

EPH 2:1 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

It is up to you with prayer and meditation on God's Word to work out if what you are listening to is glorifying to God or not!
 
The Lord reigns in heaven and on earth
Robed in majesty and armed with strength
Your righteous throne is from all eternity
Your Kingdom cannot be moved

The seas have lifted up
The seas have lifted up their voice
The depths have raised up
The depths have raised up their pounding waves

How great are your works, how profound your thoughts!
How immense are the halls of your justice, how high your ways!
Your statutes stand firm, holiness adorns your house
You are exalted for endless days!

Mightier than the thunder
Mightier than the great waters
Mightier than the breakers of the sea
- the Lord on high is mighty

The Lord reigns in heaven and on earth
Robed in majesty and armed with strength
Your righteous throne is from all eternity
Your Kingdom cannot be moved


Bible verses used
Psalms 92 & 93


Really satanic, isn't it? I love this song. And there are lots of songs like this, and lots of groups like this. A music genre can't be bad, only lyrics can.

totally right.. I love Tool music..
 
We are encouraged to renew our minds from worldly thinking to Godly thinking.



Can you honestly say the music and it's lyrics pass the be Holy for I am Holy test?



It is up to you with prayer and meditation on God's Word to work out if what you are listening to is glorifying to God or not!


I'm still learning on how God thinks and what he finds acceptable or not. I just think that music in itself is not evil or harmful, just the message we take from it is. I think that the songs of a Christian band should pass the test despite how loud it is but, I've never heard gospel music before so I wouldn't know.
 
I'm still learning on how God thinks and what he finds acceptable or not. I just think that music in itself is not evil or harmful, just the message we take from it is. I think that the songs of a Christian band should pass the test despite how loud it is but, I've never heard gospel music before so I wouldn't know.


If you sincerely seek the Lord's answer to this through prayer and reading His Word you will get the discernment you need.

I was trained as a classical musician and opera singer as well as formal choir. So before I became a Christian my introduction to Christianity was Hymns, Gospel and of course traditional Christmas Carols (Christian & secular).

I'm not into popular Christian music like most popular secular music I find it repetative, unimaginative and very boring.

Now I like various kinds of music, Celtic ballads to Zydeco. There are lots of various types of music most young people are totally unaware of these days but they might like of they explored. As a classically trained muscian I love instrumentals. I prefer to listen to a medley of the Beatles than the original songs. I am very picky of the types of songs I listen to and over the years have become more particular as I don't want to listen to anything that would compromise my faith. I certainly don't listen to anything that is Sexually Explicit or has Swearing in it (these are just two of the my long list of what I don't think is Godly to listen to anymore).

I think you already know what some of the things that would be unacceptable to be listening to as a Child of God. As you grow and mature God will show you what else you need to weed out of your music collection.

My hubby got a conviction early on in his Christian Walk to get rid of his Black Sabbath albums. I never listened to them even as a non-chrisitan so I don't what they are actually like. Never just listened to the radio as I had little time as a kid as I had undertaken music at a young age.

Anyway I will pray for the Lord to give you conviction and show you what you may have to weed out of your collection and what is OK.
 
As someone who is in the Christian Music Business and that also had a christian niteclub called ClubJesus and also put on concerts at a few niteclubs i totally dissagree because you cant call 1 thing good and another thing bad look at how Paul opposed Peter so many times and i also managed a few Christian Rock bands and metal ones you have to look at the message not only the style of the music look at Stryper POD KUTLESS SWITCHFOOT SKILLET You cant say look how they are dressed and their hair if you are sayin that you also need to look at the hip hop or rap same thing you are just sterostype them a lot of people are quick to judge and my friend thats wrong dead wrong if they are living for God and truly sold out to him and people are geting saved then whats the harm they are doing what God has told them to do
 
I Agree

the other day i got out of my car at Sunday School and right behind me a car pulled up BLASTING RAP...ROCK OR HEAVY MEDEL MUSIC, I DONT KNOW WHICH
I didn't even turn around
i just assumed it was a visitor or perhaps a lost person who really didn't have good manners..
turns out it was someone who was a Christian and had been coming all the time to church.
I have to say i was shocked and a litle dissappointed my
confidence in that person was shaken, i'm sorry to say ... all because of the style of music that they were listening to.
 
anything you can not legitimately bring to the Lord in worship and honor Him with it, it is wrong and sinful. no matter what it is.
 
We have to be very careful when it comes to condemning something. We should never forget that God can use all things for His glory. I would rather listen to an honest and sincere heavy metal Christian band than to some worship band that was just out trying to make a buck. I don't like it when CHristian music tries to mimic mainstream music just to cash in on it, but if a metal musician came to Christ and was sincere in what he was doing, then I would support him. Sadly, I find a lot of Christian music watered down so not to offend anybody, and a lot of local Christian artists getting by on the excuse "God gave it to me this way, so I can't change it." and yet the song is full of bad cliches and poor melody lines. Hmmm. you would think God could do better..
 
I guess I have earned myself a one way ticket to hell, as I have been a die-hard “metal head” since my early teens.

One of the songs that I really like is “Supercharger Heaven” by a band called White Zombie, and while it has the classic metal speed and sound, I never knew what the lyrics were (they’re very hard to understand) until 13+ years after the song was released.

I definitely can’t post the lyrics here, but you can Google it to find out what they are (BIG TIME WARNING: not for the faint of heart).

Why am I posting this? I have no idea… but after reading this thread I’ll probably burn in hell for the music that I listen to.
 
Heavy metal isn't always my cup of tea but I don't think it's fair to rule out any genre of music just because there are some bad seeds. As many people have mentioned previously, there really are some heavy metal bands that truly praise Christ in their lyrics. The same with rap...one of my favorite songs is called "My Life Be Like (oo ah)" by Grits...

"It's times like these that make me say, Lord if you see me please come my way,
Like leaving bread crumbs for when I stray,
Rely on sacrifice and the price You paid,
Feeling like a finger-tip,
Sometimes I fall, I slip,
My heart-felt desire, be more like You
Trying not to quench Your fire by the things I do..."

You can find some great inspirational and faith based songs in places you wouldn't necessarily look. :wink:
 
I guess I have earned myself a one way ticket to hell, as I have been a die-hard “metal head” since my early teens.

One of the songs that I really like is “Supercharger Heaven” by a band called White Zombie, and while it has the classic metal speed and sound, I never knew what the lyrics were (they’re very hard to understand) until 13+ years after the song was released.

I definitely can’t post the lyrics here, but you can Google it to find out what they are (BIG TIME WARNING: not for the faint of heart).

Why am I posting this? I have no idea… but after reading this thread I’ll probably burn in hell for the music that I listen to.

I think salvation doesn't so much depend on what you listen to, but the strength of the faith in your heart. Keep God your priority, and your belief in Him and His teachings deeply rooted.
 
There are actually Christian metal bands, they have really positive messages, but they just like heavier drums and guitar riffs.
I for one know this, I listen to Christian metal/Christian hardcore.
They don't talk badly about God at all, they talk about being saved by our Lord and how he helps them get through tough times..etc.
 
We have to be very careful when it comes to condemning something. We should never forget that God can use all things for His glory. I would rather listen to an honest and sincere heavy metal Christian band than to some worship band that was just out trying to make a buck.

I completely agree :)
 
There are actually Christian metal bands, they have really positive messages, but they just like heavier drums and guitar riffs.
I for one know this, I listen to Christian metal/Christian hardcore.
They don't talk badly about God at all, they talk about being saved by our Lord and how he helps them get through tough times..etc.

I agree with you. There are some amazing Christian metal bands that just rock and drive the message home. :shade:
 
Christian metal, Black(white..haha) metal, thrash, Prog, etc...

Is about as glorifying to the Lord as a Playboy magazine with John 3 16 written all over it...Fine yes, it has the words of God on it...but it still doesnt change what it is.


I WAS a metal head(granted i listened to Avantgarde Jazz as well...and allsorts of Heavy out there music...dissonent music) God doesnt want you to do things and THINK you are glorifying him...he wants you TO glorify him...so ask him to show you. Really truly with an open heart, and willing, ask him to show you. He will. His spirit will guide you into whats glorifying to him.
 
hey there people

well, I'm new to the forum, but I'm not a new christian, and I was looking for a place to discuss this exact subject with other people because I'm in doubt about it

I will not say that metal is wrong, much less satanic. I'm not dumb, I've listened and I know christian metal bands. I myself am a musician, although not a metal one.

What I want to discuss is the edification that can be achieved by listening to metal music.


As most musicians, I'm very sensitive to the feelings that every kind of music wants to put out there; the message, if you will.
What has been brought to my attention is that the purpose (and the musicians say this) of metal music is achieving brutality. They want an aggressive and brutal sound when composing it.

Now let's think for a second: is brutality really something you want to have as a christian?
This is the Merriam-Webster definition of brutal:
Definition of BRUTAL
1
archaic : typical of beasts : animal
2
: befitting a brute: as
a : grossly ruthless or unfeeling <a brutal slander>
b : cruel, cold-blooded <a brutal attack>
c : harsh, severe <brutal weather>
d : unpleasantly accurate and incisive <the brutal truth>
e : very bad or unpleasant <a brutal mistake>
Do any of these adjectives sound like anything a christian might want to have as a description of themselves?

Now, I didn't just go as far as asking metal musicians about what the purpose and message of metal is. I started asking every christian I know. I got all sorts of answers, such as "it's definitely wrong" and "I think it's acceptable and worship is up to every person" (with which I agree, but don't forget that 'we have the right to do everything, but not everything is beneficial... not everything is constructive"

One of the answers I got really impacted me, because it was exactly what I was feeling, only put in words. My father's aunt said "(hardcore metal) sounds like the sound that demon-possessed people make". I believe her, 'cause she knows about that. She's been on the field of evangelization for over 30 years. That's what I had felt when I listened to a hardcore metal song, with the all that screamo and screeches and grunts. Of course, it wasn't a christian one, but I've heard similar ones been called christian.

Another thing that was brought to my attention by someone I asked is the outfit of metal musicians and most of their followers (or the average metal follower). They will usually wear dark colored t-shirts with bizarre designs, which are usually of other metal bands. I won't say that wearing dark clothes is wrong and I will definitely not say that what you wear is who you are, but how come those are so easily related to the metal culture? And to the goth and other dark cultures?
How come the sole names of these bands are usually something with a more aggressive edge? Again, this does not apply to every metal band. Although "Austrian Death Machine" as a title for a christian band doesn't seem fitting, to me.

I don't think it's a coincidence. People look for that kind of music because it feeds their need of the feeling of brutal sound. What does brutal and aggressive music deliver, speaking of feelings/emotions? That same thing exactly.

I read a phrase on another post with this subject that gave me a really good impression of what the answer might be. It said "God doesn't want you to do things and THINK you are glorifying him...he wants you TO glorify him...so ask him to show you."
I know what some of you might be thinking. "This guy takes everything too seriously, they're just names, it's just music, it's not like it's wrong".
As a musician, and appealing to every other musician that reads this, I will say to my defense that music has a huge power. So much that some have called it "the language of God". You know what I mean. Music can switch your mood in an instant. It can put things in your mind. It can change your attitude towards certain things.

THAT is why I want people to think twice before dismissing this like "well I can worship however I want and if I like a brutal and aggressive sound and God doesn't restrain me from doing so, then it can't be wrong." Remember that free will is a gift that only humans have, and if God allows it, He also will allow it's consequences in most occasions.

Do you really think that God would want you to have those aggressive feelings? A God who is Love Himself?

Choose wisely and consult with the ultimate counselor. The answer really is out there, and what I say is not absolute and I might even be completely wrong, but NO ONE can deny that it's best to run this through God as many times as needed to reach a conclusion.

:)
 
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