Heavy metal music is wrong

[AudreyNicole]

No I can't. Also Kutless really wouldnt be heavy metal. Your walk is your walk, just stay open to Jesus. Seems like you are. God bless.

True true Kutless is pretty light....
How about Demon Hunter: Annihilate the Corrupt

Behind the eyes of my compassion lies a suffering soul
And in my blood a bitter darkness slowly taking it's toll
I feel the death of our connection and the fading of light
Between the shards of sudden panic from choking on my life

I see the scars of your addiction and the feeling you hide
A blackened heart from all the hatred you will never rewind
Within the depths of your depression hear you pleading for help
Your just a shell of vacant ruin, a portrait of myself.

I can't breathe alone
You can guide me home.

This is heavy metal, a bit more aggressive; but not aggresive towards God, aggressive towards the devil and our fallen sinful nature. Who doesn't hate sin?

To me as long as music praises God, there is no wrong music. I kind of view it how I view prayer. There is no wrong way to pray. And just like praising God, prayer is commanded of us. But the way we choose to go about praying is up to us. I like to write letters to God in the form of a prayer, including scripture and verses that support my prayer. Sometimes I will also just sit and meditate on the word as I raise my thanks and petitions to God. Some people may like to be in a church to pray. Others may like to kneel and fold their hands. Every person has a different style. Point is, there are many different ways to pray, but none of them are wrong. Same thing with Christian music; there are many different ways to praise in music, but none of them are wrong. It is just a matter of style.

As long as the Holy Spirit is within you, I don't think we have anything to worry about. In fact, I know we don't have anything to worry about: Philippians 4:6

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
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Amen!

 

[TheAristocrat]

When discussing this topic you have to take two things into consideration.

1.99.9% of metal is straight out Satanic to the core. An utter abomination in every sense of the word and in total opposition to everything God stands for and is.

2.The music. Lyrics are very damaging in metal, rock and much of pop. But what drives that message is the music. Metal is very hard edge and chaotic, that is everything that it was intended to be. The music alone has a numbing effect on the listener. There is utterly no way to justify any aspect of the music in metal as being ok. It simply isn't true, any genuine study of the music will make this plainly obvious. And then you have to consider it's supposed place as worship? Lets be honest here, that again is simply not possible.

My point of view? As a shredder and composer, who spent many years not only listening to metal, but studying, writing and playing these songs. Only through seeking God did I eventually see my own ignorance and finally abandoned my pursuit of this genre.

Sadly I have witnessed far too often young Christian's who struggle between the two and their love of metal and the world is too strong and pulls them away. This is a dangerous game to play, and when you start flirting with things that are Satan's strongholds, you play on his turf and leave yourself widely open to attack, to deception.

 

[Ben Toast]

@ OP: Just so you know, there is nothing wrong with metal. Granted, if it makes you feel further from Christ than closer, then by all means don't listen to it. However, I found Christ through metal. Bands like Destroy The Runner, Sinai Beach, and Living Sacrifice are a large part of what originally drew me to Christ. I was trapped somewhere between "atheist" and "satanist" (If I had to put it in such terms) and, in all honesty, was looking for something more. I was really into metal, and had stumbled across the three bands I mentioned above. After a while of listening to their music, I checked the lyrics and realized they were talking about God. This is what got the stone rolling that began my long journey back to Christ. It wasn't some praise song, it wasn't some hymn. It wasn't a Sunday morning sermon, and it definitely wasn't someone waving a Bible around like the Olympic torch. It was a breakdown, a guitar solo, and some awesome screams.

As another poster has shared lyrics, I will share my favorite lyrics:
These are from "Serpent Servant" by Impending Doom.

Dress me in your cloak, induct me into your cult.
Use an open tomb as my throat,
the laws that I live by will not replace the reason he died,
brainwash me with set standards and a loss of hope.
Then put me under this microscope.
Do I fit the perfect description?
Poster boy for your artificial religion.
Do I fit the perfect description? Never!
You filled the world with fervent deceit,
now the serpent and the servant meet.
Behold your end when you seduce with corruption.
False light draws false life.
When the depths have risen we will bring down the heavens.
The laws that I live by will not replace the reason he died.
Brainwash with set standards.
False light draws false life.
Hell Must Fear Me! Hell must fear us all.
Serpent servant, bring your fury.
Hell must fear me!


EDIT: (expanding on my post above)
It has been scientifically proven that music does have a direct impact on your thinking. That is, I believe, how God designed music to be. Think about it. When the evil spirit would come upon Saul, David would play his harp and it would go away.
Music has a deeply spiritual connection. Some music can invoke deep sorrow, other music can invoke happiness and celebration, while other music can provoke anger. However, it is the nature of the emotion that matters. For me, when I listen to "Serpent Servant," it does invoke anger, but it is more of an anger toward the corruption of the Church than anything else. The type of anger that makes me want to do something about it. Just because you can't easily dive into a state of worship and awe with it, doesn't mean it doesn't spread the message of Christ.

 

[Ben Toast]

EDIT: Double post, sorry! Please merge. Gosh, I feel like such a newb.

I even heard that As I lay dying is christian too.

They are

Actually, there is debate on that one.
As I Lay Dying has even said in an interview that they do not confess themselves to be a Christian band. They are Christians in a band, but they do not claim to be a Christian band.
Take it as you will. I still like their music.

 

[abraham]

I dont know who of you have ever heard about the rock band Roxette but as 'n Christian I am compleatly against that music because it is against my Christian faith. There is facts why there music is daingerous that I would like to share with you.

There songs The look and Dress for sucsess goes about ugly stuff like hair styles and as a Christian I am compleatly against that music.

There is so many wrong music in this world that people listen to. Why do people listen to that. It is wrong and it is against my Christianity.

I dont like there music and as 'n Christian I would like to warn people against the dainger of this music.

There song Daingerous goes about a woman who someone like but all the time he know she is daingerous.

There is so many nice Gospel music that people could rather listen to and I like Gospel music. I like what I believe is write and hate what I believe is wrong.

There is so many heavy metal bands that Christians should not listen to because of satanism.

I like all the good Gospel music that goes about what Jesus did for us
and I listen to Gospel music but Roxette's music is daingerous stay very far away from there music.

I dont like there music at all because of the ugly stuff that there songs goes about.

As a Christian I am compleatly against there music I would like to tell people who listen to there music why I believe it is daingerous.

If you want to know why I said this music is wrong ask the Holy Spirit
and he will show you why you must stay away.

I realize after reading a paragraph of what you said how it goes against my faith, I understand that but I feel like you need to stay were it goes against your beliefs. Heavy metal is not bad but I believe that they have negative meaning within there art. I am not down with that. The reason I listen to contemporary music is because I know that it would not have no bad words, negative inputs in their music. They are there to uplift our mind,body, and soul. Like Romans 12:2-4 We have to renew our mind before we can understand what God plans for us. (paraphrase)

 

[TheAristocrat]

What the average lay person defiantly refuses to undersand is that lyrical content and visual content are not the only aspects of music that can be bad. Did you all know that instrumental music can be used for Astral Projection? That certain types of music, without lyrics, without dancing or any visual aid, can be used to summon demons? Music is a very dangerous weapon, and as I have observed through my studies, that alone is actually far more dangerous than the rest of the package. Heavy Metal, the music alone, has an affect on the brain, on the way you function. This has a profound impact on you spiritually. You do not need "bad" lyrics, and that determiner alone is ignorant to the extreme. Then there is the account of David, when he played his instrument it drove a tormenting spirit away from King Saul. The fact of the matter is that Christians at large are guilty of making too many compromises to their faith.

Revelations 3:16
"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."

 

[Sam Canvas]

Anybody into One Bad Pig?

Ever heard them Audrey Nicole?

 

[Ben Toast]

What the average lay person defiantly refuses to undersand is that lyrical content and visual content are not the only aspects of music that can be bad. Did you all know that instrumental music can be used for Astral Projection? That certain types of music, without lyrics, without dancing or any visual aid, can be used to summon demons? Music is a very dangerous weapon, and as I have observed through my studies, that alone is actually far more dangerous than the rest of the package. Heavy Metal, the music alone, has an affect on the brain, on the way you function. This has a profound impact on you spiritually. You do not need "bad" lyrics, and that determiner alone is ignorant to the extreme. Then there is the account of David, when he played his instrument it drove a tormenting spirit away from King Saul. The fact of the matter is that Christians at large are guilty of making too many compromises to their faith.

Revelations 3:16
"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."

Again, it also depends on how you allow it to affect you. While for some a particular metal song could invoke anger and rage, in me it might provoke thought and question. The instrumentals of music may have a short-term emotional impact on me, but it is the lyrics--the message behind that song--that is what invokes the long-term. When I listen to "Serpent Servant," and hear the words, "Behold your end when you seduce with corruption," and "False light draws false life," and in context with the instrumentals, it not only invokes that short-term anger toward the fact that this is happening in the modern church, but it also invokes conviction toward myself in knowing that I am just as guilty of this as everybody else. Then, it invokes thought, as to what I might do to make sure I'm not spreading false light, and then question as to how I'm going to go about doing that.
Yes, I agree that music is a VERY dangerous weapon. But different targets require different weapons. You wouldn't use a .22 rifle on an elephant, would you? No, you'd use an elephant gun. You wouldn't use a M16 on a squirrel, would you? No, you'd use a pellet gun. Different targets require different ammunition. Different groups of people require different styles of music to get through to them. If you take a metalhead and try making them listen to gospel music, they're going to laugh at you and consider it ear-torture. At the same time, if you take a person who's into lighter music and country, and make them listen to metal, they're going to run away.
One type of music will not work on everybody. There IS a purpose for everything, and every style of music can impact different people in different ways.
I, for example, will not listen to gospel music. No way in a million years will you get me to enjoy that stuff. That is like torture to my ears.
You give me The Afters, and I'll chill and relax. You give me Misty Edwards' album Flying Wide and I'll dive into worship and weeping. You give me Impending Doom and I'll go deep into thought about what I can do on my own end to make sure I'm showing Christ to people in the right light.

 

[AudreyNicole]

Anybody into One Bad Pig?

Ever heard them Audrey Nicole?

Lol. I have heard them... pretty old stuff haha. Not super in to them; I like a lot more contemporary stuff like Demon Hunter, Red, Underoath, Manic Drive, August Burns Red, Emery, Blindside, BlesstheFall, Pillar, Skillet, Disciple, Kutless, Switchfoot, As I Lay Dying, Devil Wears Prada, POD, Project 86, Destroy the Runner, Flyleaf, Haste the Day.... those are my faves!

 

[AudreyNicole]

What the average lay person defiantly refuses to undersand is that lyrical content and visual content are not the only aspects of music that can be bad. Did you all know that instrumental music can be used for Astral Projection? That certain types of music, without lyrics, without dancing or any visual aid, can be used to summon demons? Music is a very dangerous weapon, and as I have observed through my studies, that alone is actually far more dangerous than the rest of the package. Heavy Metal, the music alone, has an affect on the brain, on the way you function. This has a profound impact on you spiritually. You do not need "bad" lyrics, and that determiner alone is ignorant to the extreme. Then there is the account of David, when he played his instrument it drove a tormenting spirit away from King Saul. The fact of the matter is that Christians at large are guilty of making too many compromises to their faith.

Revelations 3:16
"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."

You say David used his music to drive away an evil spirit. That claim right there proves that music can be used to glorify God and no where in the bible does it say that rock music is bad or wrong, it in fact says that vocals and instruments should be used to praise the Lord. Here is a link that lists many of those verses for your information:
http://www.insearchoftruth.org/articles/music_references.html

I do understand and appreciate your point, however, it is true that anything can be used as a weapon against God, just as anything can be used to glorify God. That is part of the challenge of the Christian life; it becomes our job to take that which is in the world and use it to bring glory and praise to the Lord. There are metal and rock bands out there that do preach sin... but that doesn't mean the whole genre is sinful. Just the same way as there is music in the world that preaches sin... that does not mean music is sinful. If through the spirit and with God's grace you are able to use something of this world to praise Him, I do not believe there is anything wrong or sinful about it. Especially since the Lord Himself tells us to praise Him through music, I do believe any way we can possibly do just that is blessed and encouraged.

"Then David and all Israel played music before God with all their might, with singing, on harps, on stringed instruments, on tambourines, on cymbals, and with trumpets."
1 Chronicles 13:8 (NKJV)

 

[Johan]

More lyrics!
This is from a Norwegian music group called Extol (does the name tell you anything?). I don't see how anyone could listen to this song and say that it's wrong just because of genre.


Pearl - Extol

Hear these words
My soft voice speaks only truth
I will reveal myself to you
I'll see you through

You are beautiful
My love
Walk with me
All you'll ever need
I am

So come stay with me
My dear
Dwell in grace
All that I am I will complete
In you

I'll never leave you
My hand lies upon your head

 

[Ben Toast]

I LOVE EXTOL!!!
Norwegian metal is the best, in my opinion.

 

[loverules]

well...

i listen to loads of different music like hard rock, rock, pop and much more...but i also like rap...it also deppends on what the lyrics are in the song. for example there is a rapper called lecrae and he is a christian rapper
so all in all it only depends on the lyrics and how u make the lyrics out to be

 

[spyder9]

Rock/Heavy metal music

It's true that many songs are satanic,which is why I can no longer stand to listen to most of the music I loved as a teenager. There are a few which I feel are harmless,but I refuse to listen to songs with lyrics which insult God.

 

[Mr.Handy]

We shouldn't judge music, or those who make music, God made us all.

 

[DeiSponsa]

We shouldn't judge music, or those who make music, God made us all.

Well said

 

[KingdomSeeker]

We shouldn't judge music, or those who make music, God made us all.

No. Jesus said you will know the tree by its fruit. A GOOD Tree can not produce bad fruit.

Look up the fruits of the spirit. and tell me HOW heavy metal can have any of those fruits? "Christian" or Not. Impossible. if you want to defend your own actions thats fine, YOU will have to answer to Jesus for following HIS words. ALL of them. But please dont sit there and willfully lie, against the words of Jesus. and against the words of the spirit in Paul, john, peter, james... We are Called to be SPOTLESS from the world. To have nothing to do with the World. Be IN the world....but not take the worlds practises and "Christianize" them.

The KINGDOM of GOD is not of this world, so neither should we. We are just passing through...so why pick up things that are not for us?



We should not Judge UNSAVED people...why? becasue they dont have the spirit. What they do, should not be our concern...wwe should love them, adn witness the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to them. Other then that, When it comes to PRofessing Christians...we ARE supposed to have decernment. We are NOT supposed to just be accepting of all.


Thats actually the Antithisis OF love. Love is caring for someones soul. And if you see a fellow Brother or sister doing something that you KNOW Jesus had warnd about(being a part of the World...not heavy metal...but hey...metal IS a part of the World) and that you KNOW is going to harm them. Spiritualy. Then you say something.


Metal, Christian or not, and most Music, Christian or Not, is spiritualy harming, adn actualy is Pride enducing, angst increasing...its worldy. We are supposed to have nothign to do with it.


Stop trying to justify your actions, and just die to the flesh already. Get off the broad road. It leads to destruction.

 

[jiggyfly]

The KINGDOM of GOD is not of this world, so neither should we. We are just passing through...so why pick up things that are not for us?

Is there any musical instrument here on earth that is not of this world?

Metal, Christian or not, and most Music, Christian or Not, is spiritualy harming, adn actualy is Pride enducing, angst increasing...its worldy. We are supposed to have nothign to do with it.


Stop trying to justify your actions, and just die to the flesh already. Get off the broad road. It leads to destruction.

What kind of music if any do you think is appropriate for spiritual edification?

 

[KingdomSeeker]

Is there any musical instrument here on earth that is not of this world?



What kind of music if any do you think is appropriate for spiritual edification?

Yes, the Kublefuss, its from Jupiter.:embarasse


But seriously, take a look at ALLL Christians, adn look at all the justification we do of ourself. am I saying you cant praise God musicaly? not really no.

Look, im on the internet...So Im either stupid or a hypocrite, if im saying do NOTHING of the world.

My point is, We justify mimicry of the world, becasue we have come to think that God doesnt want us to do ANYTHING secular. Which is true, but instead of then deny the world, we try to make the world Christian so we can then justify giving into our flesh...we call flesh, adn emotion, the spirit of God. We call obsession "our calling" and no one is truly asking God anything in all of this.

Its a process ok, im not saying its an easy one either....its not. the walk of a follower of Jesus, is painfull and not "Fun" Truly. and if you think we are supposed to just do what ever, and have our own life.

Well...then you are deceived. But that comes...We nned to be IN the spirit abide IN The spirit at all times...but no one teaches how to do that. Christianity has becoem just another religion which it was never ment to be.

ANNNNY way...its a process, we need to continuoulsy deny ourselves, and ask GOD what he would want us to do, or not do.


If you want to listen to heavy metal. Listen to Opeth. Used to be one of my favorite Bands. But God told me to get rid of all my music. Im not saying that YOU should do so...im saying you should ask God what he wants you to do. Im saying we should submit completely to Jesus, adn then HE will convict us of certain things...it WILL be different depending on the person.

But, Chrsitians need to stop trying to justify things and saying "they can worship God how they please" Becaseu...no...you cant...God says specificaly that no, you cant. You worship God on HIS terms...or your not worshiping God.

If You want to listen to heavy metal...fine...thats up to God to tell you not to. BUT DO NOT say that Christian Heavy metal, or most Christian Music, is a GOOD, or a GODLY thing...its not. its the world hiding behind a twisted gospel put to music. Christian metal, most Christian MUSIC is NOT worship of God. its worship of Flesh, but you want to "please god" also, so you make your flesh as happy as possible, and also try to have the lyrics "pleasing to Jesus"


Just stop it. its crazy and wrong. You either listen to worldy music, or you dont. but dont try and justify music by making the lyrics "Reflect Jesus" Your just kinda shoving your own flesh onto the life of Christ, and it seems to me that that is highly insulting.

Again, Hevy metal, is just as evil as pop music(Lady gaga...etc) no more evil, no less evil...sin is sin, the world is the world

To staple the face of Jesus onto something becasue you truly just want to do what you want, but dont want to feel guilty, or convicted about it, is probaly MORE wrong then listening to secular music.

Christian Music, (i dont mean making music unto God in your private prayer closet, or even among the congragation) But making money off of Jesus to please the flesh is MORE evil than secualr music.

and listening to it, is worse for You spirtualy.

But thats the last i will ever type on the subject. understand it or dont. Beleive it or Dont. PRay about it or dont.

its said. Truly, Jesus bless all of you. And take a Good look at the "Christian music industry" Does ANY of that truly reflect the life of Christ?

 

[jiggyfly]

Yes, the Kublefuss, its from Jupiter.:embarasse


But seriously, take a look at ALLL Christians, adn look at all the justification we do of ourself. am I saying you cant praise God musicaly? not really no.

Look, im on the internet...So Im either stupid or a hypocrite, if im saying do NOTHING of the world.

My point is, We justify mimicry of the world, becasue we have come to think that God doesnt want us to do ANYTHING secular. Which is true, but instead of then deny the world, we try to make the world Christian so we can then justify giving into our flesh...we call flesh, adn emotion, the spirit of God. We call obsession "our calling" and no one is truly asking God anything in all of this.

Its a process ok, im not saying its an easy one either....its not. the walk of a follower of Jesus, is painfull and not "Fun" Truly. and if you think we are supposed to just do what ever, and have our own life.

Well...then you are deceived. But that comes...We nned to be IN the spirit abide IN The spirit at all times...but no one teaches how to do that. Christianity has becoem just another religion which it was never ment to be.

ANNNNY way...its a process, we need to continuoulsy deny ourselves, and ask GOD what he would want us to do, or not do.


If you want to listen to heavy metal. Listen to Opeth. Used to be one of my favorite Bands. But God told me to get rid of all my music. Im not saying that YOU should do so...im saying you should ask God what he wants you to do. Im saying we should submit completely to Jesus, adn then HE will convict us of certain things...it WILL be different depending on the person.

But, Chrsitians need to stop trying to justify things and saying "they can worship God how they please" Becaseu...no...you cant...God says specificaly that no, you cant. You worship God on HIS terms...or your not worshiping God.

If You want to listen to heavy metal...fine...thats up to God to tell you not to. BUT DO NOT say that Christian Heavy metal, or most Christian Music, is a GOOD, or a GODLY thing...its not. its the world hiding behind a twisted gospel put to music. Christian metal, most Christian MUSIC is NOT worship of God. its worship of Flesh, but you want to "please god" also, so you make your flesh as happy as possible, and also try to have the lyrics "pleasing to Jesus"


Just stop it. its crazy and wrong. You either listen to worldy music, or you dont. but dont try and justify music by making the lyrics "Reflect Jesus" Your just kinda shoving your own flesh onto the life of Christ, and it seems to me that that is highly insulting.

Again, Hevy metal, is just as evil as pop music(Lady gaga...etc) no more evil, no less evil...sin is sin, the world is the world

To staple the face of Jesus onto something becasue you truly just want to do what you want, but dont want to feel guilty, or convicted about it, is probaly MORE wrong then listening to secular music.

Christian Music, (i dont mean making music unto God in your private prayer closet, or even among the congragation) But making money off of Jesus to please the flesh is MORE evil than secualr music.

and listening to it, is worse for You spirtualy.

But thats the last i will ever type on the subject. understand it or dont. Beleive it or Dont. PRay about it or dont.

its said. Truly, Jesus bless all of you. And take a Good look at the "Christian music industry" Does ANY of that truly reflect the life of Christ?

I couldn't find an answer to my second question "What kind of music if any do you think is appropriate for spiritual edification?".

Is there any style of music that you would consider appropriate for worship?