How do I accept Jesus as my Savior?

[GodB4Us]

@GodB4Us

Swing and a miss...I was specifically at Mark 1:15. Repent I don't think can be separated from belief for they go hand in hand but I will try to answer your question. To me repent means that throw myself upon the mercy of God as I lay in my filthy rags and plea for deliverance.

You should reconsider applying that to the gospel of Jesus Christ because that was John the Baptist's call to repent from sins for his kind of water baptism that he was doing.

Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Then why didn't Peter say that to the Gentiles in Acts 10:43-44?

I believe Jesus's call to repent means repent from unbelief which necessitates as to explain how to repent and that is to believe the gospel.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Mister]

@GodB4Us
I am not understanding your position. And weirdly we might be agreeing? Considering that most men declare their own goodness or will justify their wicked deeds by comparing their righteousness with another man's, deceiving themselves saying "oh I'm good cuz I'm not Hilter!" or something to that effect causes me to think that the law is good for this very reason, it is meant to stop the rebel's mouth from self-righteousness and self-justification.

 

[PloughBoy]

Men were created in the image of God TO create, and they were given the power, authority, and responsibility to procreate. (I've already given you the scriptures that prove it.)

Jesus isn't running around getting women pregnant.

What missionary hut taught you that?

Rhema
(And in consideration of our mutual levels of education, you've got no standing to question my English comprehension.)

You said:
Men were created in the image of God TO create, and they were given the power, authority, and responsibility to procreate. (I've already given you the scriptures that prove it.)

You are wrong! And in error! There is only “One Creator”

And many still has not come to The Knowledge of “TRUTH”!

“A Little Leaven’s Spoils The Whole Lump”. Contaminates.

The WORD of GOD is not a Toy to play with! It is not a toy! It is a matter of “Life and Death” nothing in between! Methods of explaining The TRUTH maybe different but The TARGET remains The SAME!
Consider:
“The insanity of Luther”.

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

You are not able to reason and are illogical.

Yours is a circular argument without any biblical evidence. Deut 1:39 & Mathew18:6 soundly refutes your theory.

 

[Rhema]

Nonsense what you say. Many people misunderstand Paul and all the scriptures. Scriptures are God breathed.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That is the most egregious purposeful mistranslation I have ever run across. All copies should be burned. BURNED I say.

2 Timothy 3:16 most assuredly does NOT say that. It says this:

και οτι απο βρεφους τα ιερα γραμματα οιδας τα δυναμενα σε σοφισαι εις σωτηριαν δια πιστεως της εν χριστω ιησου πασα γραφη θεοπνευστος και ωφελιμος προς διδασκαλιαν προς ελεγχον προς επανορθωσιν προς παιδειαν την εν δικαιοσυνη ​

One of these days I'll condense my notes and start a thread on its proper translation, but that takes time and you wouldn't care anyway.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

I am not arguing. You mean the: “The Roman Catholic Church”

No, I meant what I said. The Catholic Church has two major branches, the Roman Rite and its parent, the Orthodox Church. The split was well after the Catholic Church within the Roman Empire established their canon. Please note I posted "Catholic" not "catholic." There is a difference (noted below).

Now there are a few other minor branches of the ancient Church, like the Church of the East, but that branch, started by the Apostle Thomas, holds to a different canon of scripture.

“You are “Peter the stone”, but I AM “The ROCK” and upon This ROCK I Will build “My Congregation”

Now that is how I see it.

I think it quite clear that the "rock" is a reference to the revelation by the Father to Peter that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

(Matthew 16:17-18 KJV) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this (ταυτη) rock (τη πετρα) I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.​

Both the words "rock" and "this" are feminine in gender. I doubt that Jesus would have used a word having feminine gender to refer to himself here. He would have said "ME" in some form, if he had meant himself.

Each man to his own sight! BUT there is only “One Congregation” in Christ! “One LORD”, “One FAITH”. “The CATHOLIC FAITH “. I did not say: “The Roman Catholic faith”.

“I Said: “The CATHOLIC FAITH”, archaic!

Only the "yet to be instructed" do not yet understand that the word "catholic" just means "universal." For me, anyone who can say that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God has been touched with a revelation by the Father, and I can call him brother.

Now do you disagree with this statement?

The Bible is God's words in writing preserved for us.

I contend that such a belief cannot be found within the Bible, and it's not good to make claims about the Bible that cannot be found within the Bible.

When studying the Bible in-depth, one will find that the phrase "God's Word" is defined by the Bible, and that there are two of them - LOGOS and RHEMA. Neither "Word of God" is the Bible.

Be a little more specific.

I capitalized the word. Be a better reader.

Kindly,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Are you following me?

Not really. All the underlining makes it hard to read, so I quit.

However....

Do not think, that the creature in The garden of Eden, was complete, but still, it was only a grain.

I can agree with that, and believe that the Tree of the Establishing of Good and Evil was for a future time.
(Otherwise, God is just an evil vindictive nasty SOB.)

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

I know you are probably referring to Acts 2:38 in that altar call to the Jews, but what does repent to you mean when that same Peter gave this altar call to the Gentiles where the word repent was not used, but to believe in Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and they obviously believed Peters words and got the Holy Ghost and before water baptism too.

You keep trying to create a division between Jew and Gentile.

Stop it. That's evil. (Not to mention racist.)

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

You are wrong! And in error! There is only “One Creator”

Pffttt. Yeah, right.

Uh... then you should be able to post a verse from the Bible that says,

"THERE IS ONLY ONE CREATOR"

Bet ya can't...

Thanks for playing,
Rhema

 

[PloughBoy]

Pffttt. Yeah, right.

Uh... then you should be able to post a verse from the Bible that says,

"THERE IS ONLY ONE CREATOR"

Bet ya can't...

Thanks for playing,
Rhema

How about the “Bible”!
verses are man made and not Authoritative but The Book is.

Is that a paradox? No way, that is The Word of GOD! The whole counsel of GOD wrap up in a book. And not in a man made verse.

“For no Scripture can be interpret in isolation of its self”

And I know, this is beyond you

“Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.”

What you see above might not be what it seems to be written above.

 

[PloughBoy]

Not really. All the underlining makes it hard to read, so I quit.

However....


I can agree with that, and believe that the Tree of the Establishing of Good and Evil was for a future time.
(Otherwise, God is just an evil vindictive nasty SOB.)

Thanks,
Rhema

So in other words you believe, all things are not going according to The Will of “GOD” and not on course but veering to the left and right and not sturdy as she goes.

 

[PloughBoy]

Not really. All the underlining makes it hard to read, so I quit.

However....


I can agree with that, and believe that the Tree of the Establishing of Good and Evil was for a future time.
(Otherwise, God is just an evil vindictive nasty SOB.)

Thanks,
Rhema

Not GOD but a human being is evil!

GOD is GOD for HE is HOLY and a human is not “HolY” but a corrupted creature, if GOD destroys every creature He is delivering passing out “Justice” He does No Wrong! HE is GOD!

 

[PloughBoy]

No, I meant what I said. The Catholic Church has two major branches, the Roman Rite and its parent, the Orthodox Church. The split was well after the Catholic Church within the Roman Empire established their canon. Please note I posted "Catholic" not "catholic." There is a difference (noted below).

Now there are a few other minor branches of the ancient Church, like the Church of the East, but that branch, started by the Apostle Thomas, holds to a different canon of scripture.


I think it quite clear that the "rock" is a reference to the revelation by the Father to Peter that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

(Matthew 16:17-18 KJV) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this (ταυτη) rock (τη πετρα) I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.​

Both the words "rock" and "this" are feminine in gender. I doubt that Jesus would have used a word having feminine gender to refer to himself here. He would have said "ME" in some form, if he had meant himself.


Only the "yet to be instructed" do not yet understand that the word "catholic" just means "universal." For me, anyone who can say that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God has been touched with a revelation by the Father, and I can call him brother.

Now do you disagree with this statement?

I contend that such a belief cannot be found within the Bible, and it's not good to make claims about the Bible that cannot be found within the Bible.

When studying the Bible in-depth, one will find that the phrase "God's Word" is defined by the Bible, and that there are two of them - LOGOS and RHEMA. Neither "Word of God" is the Bible.


I capitalized the word. Be a better reader.

Kindly,
Rhema

Ok, The Bible do says:

“But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.”

 

[PloughBoy]

For those who want to know what the Archaic, meaning of the word Catholic means. Is.

universal

“Etymology. The Greek adjective katholikos, the origin of the term catholic, means 'universal'.”

“Like many well informed people who also know that a boy was also called a girl”
Now. And they also used to put dresses on little males!

I bet you had one too, with a Bonnet on your head, with Rosie cheeks. With high top shoes on!

Do you need a verse for that one too?

The word 'girl' was used for both boys and girls just 700 years ago!​

The origins of the word ‘girl’ shows that it had nothing to do with gender and used to denote both young men and women even 700 years ago.​

Are you feeling your Feminine side yet?

 

[God's Truth]

Yours is a circular argument without any biblical evidence. Deut 1:39 & Mathew18:6 soundly refutes your theory.

You said infants are born knowing God. You haven't proved it, in fact, you go against the scriptures that say we are to teach our children.

 

[God's Truth]

That is the most egregious purposeful mistranslation I have ever run across. All copies should be burned. BURNED I say.

2 Timothy 3:16 most assuredly does NOT say that. It says this:

και οτι απο βρεφους τα ιερα γραμματα οιδας τα δυναμενα σε σοφισαι εις σωτηριαν δια πιστεως της εν χριστω ιησου πασα γραφη θεοπνευστος και ωφελιμος προς διδασκαλιαν προς ελεγχον προς επανορθωσιν προς παιδειαν την εν δικαιοσυνη ​

One of these days I'll condense my notes and start a thread on its proper translation, but that takes time and you wouldn't care anyway.

Rhema

God doesn't tell us we need to learn His Truth by learning another language. God brings His Word to us in our languages. Your study of another language has only put you further from the Truth.

 

[GodB4Us]

@GodB4Us
I am not understanding your position. And weirdly we might be agreeing? Considering that most men declare their own goodness or will justify their wicked deeds by comparing their righteousness with another man's, deceiving themselves saying "oh I'm good cuz I'm not Hilter!" or something to that effect causes me to think that the law is good for this very reason, it is meant to stop the rebel's mouth from self-righteousness and self-justification.

Sounds like the deep end rather than the shallow end you are wading into.

Most scriptures testify to believing in Him for eternal life, leaving out repentance only because I see that repentance in other scripture as repenting from unbelief.

Your reference of Mark 1:15 says repent and believe, but many may wonder repent from what and how? The answer is to believe in Him. So a turning from unbelief in God hence repent and a turning to believing in Him hence salvation.

After salvation, repenting from all sins daily by looking to the author & finisher of our faith is what discipleship is all about in running that race for the imperishable crown which is by His workmanship that He achieves in us so no boast of our own righteousness but His alone.

1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

 

[Mister]

@GodB4Us

Are you 100% correct in your assertion made about the tally of scriptures saying this or that. I can't confirm nor deny it. I don't think such an assertion warrants absolute truth. The gay-christian community uses a kind of this approach in stating that only 6 or so of the 34,000ish scriptures talk about homosexuality, ergo a minor issue.

Why would one accept the cure without knowing they have a disease? A good doctor would not come back from his examination and advise his patient "here you need this take them thrice daily for a week and you'll be fine" and walk away - I'd call him a quack. Rather he would tell him of his grave condition before offering the cure.

The rich young ruler when asking about obtaining eternal life first is corrected when Jesus says there's none good but God, then proceeds going thru His law. The young man could have thought at that moment "I've got this!" as he kept all those commandments Jesus spoke of. But after Jesus commanded to sell all of his things and follow Me, he became sorrowful. He seen that he didn't want to let go of his possessions and remained un-repentant of his idolatrous ways. Did this man not believe in God?

I think a complete union won't be possible until after He comes and gets us. Though striving for it is another thing.

 

[GodB4Us]

@GodB4Us

Are you 100% correct in your assertion made about the tally of scriptures saying this or that. I can't confirm nor deny it. I don't think such an assertion warrants absolute truth. The gay-christian community uses a kind of this approach in stating that only 6 or so of the 34,000ish scriptures talk about homosexuality, ergo a minor issue.

They'd be wrong if they think it is a minor issue. Unless they look to Jesus Christ to also deliver them from homosexuality, they run the risk of being left behind by the Bridegroom when He comes, even though they are still saved for believing in Him. Also, they run the risk of reaping corruption for sowing to the flesh and that sin of homosexuality will get worse and worse as lusting after the flesh will also.

Why would one accept the cure without knowing they have a disease? A good doctor would not come back from his examination and advise his patient "here you need this take them thrice daily for a week and you'll be fine" and walk away - I'd call him a quack. Rather he would tell him of his grave condition before offering the cure.

Per Chad's presentation of how a sinner acknowledge that they are a sinner in need of Jesus Christ as their Saviour is one thing, but to demand that the sinner repent from all sins before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ to be saved by Him, is another. If we know that sinners are slaves to sin and cannot stop because sin has dominion over their lives, then that call for them to repent from all sins will cause them to walk away, because they tried to stop before & could not.

Jesus Christ not only came to give eternal life to all who believe in Him, but He came to deliver us and sinners from our bondage to sin ad to death and will help us daily in laying aside every weight & sin in following Him in the light.

Sinner can know freedom in Christ Jesus when after they are saved, they can trust Him as their Good Shepherd to understand His words and abide in His words in following Him as His disciples because the Son will set them free from their sins so that they can follow Him.

John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

The rich young ruler when asking about obtaining eternal life first is corrected when Jesus says there's none good but God, then proceeds going thru His law. The young man could have thought at that moment "I've got this!" as he kept all those commandments Jesus spoke of. But after Jesus commanded to sell all of his things and follow Me, he became sorrowful. He seen that he didn't want to let go of his possessions and remained un-repentant of his idolatrous ways. Did this man not believe in God?

The rich young ruler was looking to himself to save himself and make himself good; hence Jesus lifting his sights higher in how he was seeing Him as good since He is God. When he walked away, Jesus did declare how impossible it was for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven for which His disciples exclaimed who then can be saved? So Jesus had to lift their sights higher by citing what is impossible with men, is possible with God, meaning God will do it and so believing Him is how and why God is pleased to save those who believe in Him to be their Saviour just as God is pleased to help those to follow Him when they believe Him to be their Good Shepherd too.

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God......
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

I think a complete union won't be possible until after He comes and gets us. Though striving for it is another thing.

That is what running that race is all about, by looking to Him as the author & finisher of our faith to help us lay aside every weight & sin daily in moving on to perfection. That is what discipleship is all about, but one has to be saved first so they can follow Him in repenting from all sins daily by His help and by His grace.

Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

 

[God's Truth]

Most scriptures testify to believing in Him for eternal life, leaving out repentance only because I see that repentance in other scripture as repenting from unbelief.

A person has to REPENT OF THEIR SINS. If they didn't believe in Jesus before---then repent of that too!

Tell me, do these things we are to repent of sound like ONLY repent of UNBELIEF?

Acts 8:22 Repent, therefore, of your wickedness,

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “the Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”


Is that just unbelief? NO.

How about this:

Revelation 9:20 The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood--idols that cannot see or hear or walk.
21 Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts.

Revelation 16:10 The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness. People gnawed their tongues in agony because of their sufferings and because of their sores, but nevertheless they still refused to repent of their deeds.11 and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.

2 Corinthians 12:21 I am afraid that when I come again, my God may humiliate me before you, and I will grieve for many of those who previously sinned and have not repented of the impurity, sexual immorality, and licentiousness that they have practiced.


DOES THAT SOUND LIKE REPENT JUST MEANS TO REPENT OF UNBELIEF?!!!

I am trying to help you!