If you are sleeping with your Boyfriend it is a good chance That 99.99 %, you are Definitely going to HELL, and you can ask JESUS, HE will not lie.

[Brad Huber]

I'm confused.

You have a good way with words @PloughBoy, you are an excellent poet.

But sometimes I think you try to be confusing on purpose.

Just a guess, but I think he is saying that this person is a troll, specifically here to cause trouble, and that half of what this person is saying (color, gender, age, faith) is not true, just looking for arguements and examples of "bad" christians. Its true that when you sense something like that, its best to ignore them.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

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2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6olU6cKq_1I

Yes but you feel a lot better when it's done and you're all healed

I loved that you used that word "healed".

Oh my Goodness, I love that word heal.

Can we stay there for a moment @Shae , pleeeeeease? On the point of healing.

I agree with you 100% you are seeking to be healed.
Because something is out of order, something seems out of balance.

My question is, is it only skin deep? When you change your biology, will you truly be "healed".
Is being a male or female only biology?

Is there a spiritual component to male-ness and female-ness, and if so, will surgery cut deep enough to cut to the soul?

I do know a tool that is sharp enough to cut to the soul, the word of God.

" For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing
asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. "
Herbrew 4:12

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Because your premise @Shae is that being a male or a female has to do with the organs and the parts
that you have; Is that correct? So if you can only change your parts and have the rights parts you will be that sex(male or female, etc)

But is that really how it works. Do we become something by simply changing the exterior. Is that how it works?

So listen to this for example, doctors have been able find a way to transplant a pig heart to a human.

A breakthrough on the horizon: Humans could begin receiving transplanted pig hearts by 2021

www.cardiovascularbusiness.com

So if I get in a car accident (God forbid) and the only heart available is a pig's heart and I get that transplant.
Will I now be a Pig, because I have pig parts?

What if I had surgery to get horse genital, does that now make me a horse? Or is there more to being a horse or a pig
than simply swapping body parts? Really think about this. Because as silly as the analogy is, it represents what I'm hearing.

I'm hearing you say that once you swap parts, you will all of a sudden be a different (sex(male/female).
But ask your high school biology teacher, if that is how it works. As them if your chromosomes, XX or XY, will change from male to female or vice versa
if you change body parts. Let me know what they say.

Love and God Bless @Shae

 

[Sue D.]

@Shae so you're going to start the s x change process? From what I've understood it's a long process that includes a lot of counseling. And it's expensive.

And then you'd be in a same-sex relationships.

Why not just be content in the body you've been born with.

Before you get into a committed relationship get your inner self figured out.


What is your plan for after that. You did comment about being a jeweler.

 

[Shae]

Just a guess, but I think he is saying that this person is a troll, specifically here to cause trouble, and that half of what this person is saying (color, gender, age, faith) is not true, just looking for arguements and examples of "bad" christians. Its true that when you sense something like that, its best to ignore them.

I am not a troll I'm just trying to tell people that there are different beliefs in the world and we don't all have to accept them or try to change them.

 

[Shae]

@Shae so you're going to start the s x change process? From what I've understood it's a long process that includes a lot of counseling. And it's expensive.

And then you'd be in a same-sex relationships.

Why not just be content in the body you've been born with.

Before you get into a committed relationship get your inner self figured out.


What is your plan for after that. You did comment about being a jeweler.

I am a boy just born in the wrong body and I am in a committed relationship

 

[Shae]

Because your premise @Shae is that being a male or a female has to do with the organs and the parts
that you have; Is that correct? So if you can only change your parts and have the rights parts you will be that sex(male or female, etc)

But is that really how it works. Do we become something by simply changing the exterior. Is that how it works?

So listen to this for example, doctors have been able find a way to transplant a pig heart to a human.

A breakthrough on the horizon: Humans could begin receiving transplanted pig hearts by 2021

www.cardiovascularbusiness.com

So if I get in a car accident (God forbid) and the only heart available is a pig's heart and I get that transplant.
Will I now be a Pig, because I have pig parts?

What if I had surgery to get horse genital, does that now make me a horse? Or is there more to being a horse or a pig
than simply swapping body parts? Really think about this. Because as silly as the analogy is, it represents what I'm hearing.

I'm hearing you say that once you swap parts, you will all of a sudden be a different (sex(male/female).
But ask your high school biology teacher, if that is how it works. As them if your chromosomes, XX or XY, will change from male to female or vice versa
if you change body parts. Let me know what they say.

Love and God Bless @Shae

I can legally change my name and pronouns so that people know I am a boy

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I am not a troll I'm just trying to tell people that there are different beliefs in the world and we don't all have to accept them or try to change them.

He wasn't talking about you but about @PloughBoy

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I can legally change my name and pronouns so that people know I am a boy

Yes you can (change your name)

But we know that all these changes are external.
I can change my name right now to Sue. You and I and @Sue D. know that just because I change my name to Sue or tell everyone to call me
She and her, that doesn't all of sudden change who I am.

But I see you didn't respond to my question about the parts, changing our parts and the pig analogy.

Did you not understand it, or was it just too much to handle? Is there some fear as to what if I do this surgery and I still feel incomplete?
Because if you change parts and the problem is still there, then what is your next step?

 

[Sue D.]

I can legally change my name and pronouns so that people know I am a boy

shae you said that you are already a boy. Don't you mean that you can change your name so that people will know that you're a girl rather than a guy. There are names that can be either male or femàle.

You're only almost 15 yrs old. Your hormones are messing with you. And you still have to find a surgeon who will do that kiñd of procedure

 

[Shae]

shae you said that you are already a boy. Don't you mean that you can change your name so that people will know that you're a girl rather than a guy. There are names that can be either male or femàle.

You're only almost 15 yrs old. Your hormones are messing with you. And you still have to find a surgeon who will do that kiñd of procedure

No i am a transgender male meaning I was born a girl but I now identify as a boy because that is what feels right and at my school I go by Shae and He/They and I plan on getting top surgery when I am older. there are many transgender men in the world take Noah Finance as an example and Miles Mckenna they both are trans men that have had top surgery and are happy I even have Miles book called Out where he talks about his transition and other things there are many books about transgender men and they are wonderful I have two on my shelf right now but plan on buying more because they're helping me with my journey of self discovery

Miles McKenna OUT: Out!: How to Be Your Authentic Self|Hardcover

River Braun Call Me Him: call me him.: a transgender coming-of-age story - Kindle edition by Braun, River. Literature & Fiction Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.

M.G Hennessy The Other Boy: The Other Boy: Hennessey, M. G., Monster, Sfe R.: 9780062427663: Amazon.com: Books

Those are all great female to male transgender stories that i've read and loved

 

[Shae]

Yes you can (change your name)

But we know that all these changes are external.
I can change my name right now to Sue. You and I and @Sue D. know that just because I change my name to Sue or tell everyone to call me
She and her, that doesn't all of sudden change who I am.

But I see you didn't respond to my question about the parts, changing our parts and the pig analogy.

Did you not understand it, or was it just too much to handle? Is there some fear as to what if I do this surgery and I still feel incomplete?
Because if you change parts and the problem is still there, then what is your next step?

It is what I want to do it

 

[Sue D.]

How about researching those who've transitioned and lived to regret it -- that would make your research complete.

Kind of like the abortion industry. How many thousands of women have had abortions and lived to regret it. No one prepares them for the feelings of guilt they experience or the resulting depression

You do have the choice of staying whatever sex you've been born and adjusting to that

Whenever I w seen the results of a sex change -- the result has never looked natural.

Bruce Jenner is an example
He does not make an attractive woman. Just a very strange looking man .

And what happens when part of the process doesn't work right.

And what happens when you can't find a surgeon who will work with you.

And how the results affect you in a negative way.

Too many unknowns.

 

[Shae]

How about researching those who've transitioned and lived to regret it -- that would make your research complete.

Kind of like the abortion industry. How many thousands of women have had abortions and lived to regret it. No one prepares them for the feelings of guilt they experience or the resulting depression

You do have the choice of staying whatever sex you've been born and adjusting to that

Whenever I w seen the results of a sex change -- the result has never looked natural.

Bruce Jenner is an example
He does not make an attractive woman. Just a very strange looking man .

And what happens when part of the process doesn't work right.

And what happens when you can't find a surgeon who will work with you.

And how the results affect you in a negative way.

Too many unknowns.

No i've researched the people who regretted it and it doesn't matter what it looks like to you its if the person is happy or not like no one cares if the d--- looks unnatural it only matters if the man who has it thinks it is and if they think its natural than just let them live their life and stop judging. and there are a lot more successful trans people that had surgery than unsuccessful people you are just finding the bad in it which isn't the full thing. and Caitlyn Jenner is a beautiful woman call her by her correct name and pronouns please its very disrespectful not to.

 

[PloughBoy]

I'm confused.

You have a good way with words @PloughBoy, you are an excellent poet.

But sometimes I think you try to be confusing on purpose.

You remember when the "script" says: "and The Lord will give you understanding" trust the "Script" when at times many has called it "The Holy Wit".

 

[Sue D.]

That which concerns me is that you're not even 15 yet. Wait until you're 25 or so. Then --ehen you've had counseling and can find a surgeon and still want to change that will be your decision as an adult.

There's really nothing more to say. I've shared. Scripture with you and you won't listen to God's Word about it. That what you want to do is something that God hates. It's putrid to Him.

Hopefully you will be reàding God's Word to find all the riches of His word.

 

[Shae]

That which concerns me is that you're not even 15 yet. Wait until you're 25 or so. Then --ehen you've had counseling and can find a surgeon and still want to change that will be your decision as an adult.

There's really nothing more to say. I've shared. Scripture with you and you won't listen to God's Word about it. That what you want to do is something that God hates. It's putrid to Him.

Hopefully you will be reàding God's Word to find all the riches of His word.

why should I wait other kids get to decide for themselves without being 25

 

[Sue D.]

Shae-- I'm thinking as a mother. I have four grown kids añd grandkids and great grandkids. I would not have allowed them to make that kind of decision until they were adults.

Your comments are showing your immaturity.

Other kids are other kids--you are you.

Do I remember correctly that you are adopted. That your birth mother didn't want to get married so you were put up for adoption.
Is that why you want to change yourself. To try to remake yourself into someone you can love. That your mother could love.
Did your mother want a girl ànd you were born a boy. So you want to change to a girl like your mother wants. Or wanted.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

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