I'm rather worried

[Julie.S]

Can you give me an example of some of those many roads?

Indeed I can.

Not everyone gets to Jesus at the same time and we all get there differently.
Some people are raised Christian from birth.
Others find Jesus later on by themselves.
Some get help from others like friends and family.
Either way Jesus is there in the end and that is what matters.
Its not the path we take its that we get there in time and that's what should matter the most.
Who cares if someone is getting there faster or slower when we already know that they will be there eventually.

 

[LordKnows]

Who cares if someone is getting there faster or slower when we already know that they will be there eventually.

GOSH you & I do think alike. Well, I used to feel that way. But then it dawned on me... I mean think about it. How many times have you heard a pastor, a Christian or anyone with true faith in God say "The end is coming SOON"? "Jesus is coming back SOON". I mean it's even in Revelations that his return WILL be SOON. So this whole attitude of it doesn't really matter WHEN they get there... it really does matter. It matters because tonight when we all tuck ourselves into bed & mentally prepare for tomorrow... everyone that makes tomorrows plans isn't going to wake up. The quick 4 minutes trip to the gas station someone makes for a fountain pop may be the last time anyone sees them alive. That is why it is so important to get them introduced to God NOW. Like I said, I used to think the same way as you. Til I learned how definite his return will be. It's not a maybe, or possibly 2,000 years from now return it's a soon return. And he's coming when nobody expects him.

 

[Julie.S]

C4E <>< YOU my friend are on a roll again!!! Julie, I KNOW I come off blunt, bold & sometimes "in your face" but I have a BURNING passion to get the word of God out there as his disciples did. I do NOT mean to be offensive. I see it like this: If I were to see a child walking towards a busy road I would not calmly say "hey honey, you're gonna get hurt. I would scream, holler & run after the child because what he's about to do may kill him. That is what it is like when I read someone taking Jesus lightly. A busy street should not be taken lightly & neither should Jesus Christ. I do however see your point in a simple mention & then dropping it though. I also know that having a Catholic background will hinder you from learning correct doctrine. With so many "religions" that sprout up every so often the blur comes about. Many people think & feel that because they have always known it to be this way that is the way it must be. When Christ himself enters he will rewire us HIS way & recreate us the way we were intended had it not been for sin. We are sinful people without God & because of that boldness has to come about or it will be viewed as being something of less importance.

Is being on a roll in this case good or bad?

See I find no problem with being Catholic though or anyone who is non-denominational I have a friend who is. I have friends who are Protestant and so on. The way we believe is different but what matters is that Jesus is there always. I don't look at the denomination yet so many see that first and just walk away because of it. If you take all that away Jesus is there at the center and that is whats important here.
What correct doctrine are you talking about?
Depending on who you ask I am wrong and so are you. There are variants but that should not matter either because its unimportant. My dad is Presbyterian and me and my mother are Catholic. I accept what my Dad believes and leave it at that. Those who are strong in faith should not be worrying about what doctrine others believe in my view. I know who Jesus is and so do millions of other people.

Don't look at the other denominations and how different they are look at what is in the center of them all. You will see God and Jesus there and that is the core of it. Those people just get there in a different way.

Regarding the other stuff about being in your face and so on.
I could be doing the same I just keep myself in check.

 

[LordKnows]

I have to ask you Julie. What exactly do Catholics believe. I heard Catholics pray for the dead, is this true? I also heard that Catholics can not speak to God directly but rather go through a person higher up in the church or even the Pope to get the message to Jesus.

 

[Julie.S]

GOSH you & I do think alike. Well, I used to feel that way. But then it dawned on me... I mean think about it. How many times have you heard a pastor, a Christian or anyone with true faith in God say "The end is coming SOON"? "Jesus is coming back SOON". I mean it's even in Revelations that his return WILL be SOON. So this whole attitude of it doesn't really matter WHEN they get there... it really does matter. It matters because tonight when we all tuck ourselves into bed & mentally prepare for tomorrow... everyone that makes tomorrows plans isn't going to wake up. The quick 4 minutes trip to the gas station someone makes for a fountain pop may be the last time anyone sees them alive. That is why it is so important to get them introduced to God NOW. Like I said, I used to think the same way as you. Til I learned how definite his return will be. It's not a maybe, or possibly 2,000 years from now return it's a soon return. And he's coming when nobody expects him.

Umm......no one says that mostly and I am being honest here. I know people who say that and have some mental issues. People always say its ending this year or something like that. I heard it was meant to end last year and I am still here. I do not worry about that stuff anymore. I have never heard from another person in my family or church that the world is ending soon. Soon gives off the understanding that its coming in a few days or months.

 

[LordKnows]

Don't get what I said twisted here. I didn't say the "world" was ending I said Jesus is "coming soon" ... You can simply open your Bible & turn to the last page in Revelations & see there that is says
20 He who is the faithful witness to all these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon!”

The red are HIS own words. I can not believe your church hasn't mentioned this to you. I would take Jesus lightly too if I never heard about his return. Hmmmm weird.

 

[Julie.S]

Don't get what I said twisted here. I didn't say the "world" was ending I said Jesus is "coming soon" ...

Yes but its kind of the same thing.

 

[LordKnows]

No it's kinda not. The world will be left to them that don't believe in turmoil & madness as Satan is left to run it. WE Christians will be taken up to Heaven. This that I say is all in Revelations. I am not agreeing with what God says word for word. I actually have though him to be a bit harsh myself but I don't make the rules. I just have to abide by them.

 

[LordKnows]

I know people who say that and have some mental issues.

Jesus said it... MANY Times. Paul has said it many times also. Other prophets have said it but NOBODY knows exactly when. If they do they are out right lying to you & themselves. There are the whacks out there that say it's on a certain day, date & time BUT no it's not. Jesus has said like a thief in the night. Meaning NOBODY knows when.

 

[Julie.S]

I have to ask you Julie. What exactly do Catholics believe. I heard Catholics pray for the dead, is this true? I also heard that Catholics can not speak to God directly but rather go through a person higher up in the church or even the Pope to get the message to Jesus.

I have never talked to the pope honestly and I don't think many get to. I like him for how much he has changed things though. We pray for the dead persons soul as far as I know. I pray to God directly mostly and start most prayers with Dear God. Once in a while I ask a Saint for help but I don't usually. The Pope is like an Earthly representative of God I guess that's the best way I can put it. I'm going to be rather honest here there are some things in the Catholic church I have problems with and mostly the very harsh rules. There are also some really silly things that they have a problem with.

To help you know what the church is about though.
"The Catholic religion is the religion of the Catholic Church—i.e., that group of churches in communion with the pope. If a group isn’t in communion with the pope, it isn’t part of the Catholic Church.

Within the Catholic Church there are a number of individual churches, sometimes called rites. One of these is the Roman rite or Roman church. It includes most of the Catholics in the Western world. A Roman Catholic is a Catholic who is a member of the Roman rite

The Roman rite is not stricter than these other rights. They are equal. They all teach the same faith; it is only local customs that are different among them.."-catholic.com

I can't put it all here but the link there for the reference/site can help you more. Its also complicated and I have a hard time explaining things by typing.

 

[LordKnows]

Thanks Julie. I always wondered what Catholics beliefs were. You summed them up rather nicely. Thank you again

I'm kinda off set by the praying for the dead. I did read a lil bit about why Catholics do it. I just don't know why that would be a thing to do. I dunno... Maybe you could find out at church.

 

[Julie.S]

No it's kinda not. The world will be left to them that don't believe in turmoil & madness as Satan is left to run it. WE Christians will be taken up to Heaven. This that I say is all in Revelations. I am not agreeing with what God says word for word. I actually have though him to be a bit harsh myself but I don't make the rules. I just have to abide by them.

I feel the same the rules are a bit harsh and I am slightly taken aback by them at times. I can't change them though so I just deal with it.

 

[Julie.S]

Thanks Julie. I always wondered what Catholics beliefs were. You summed them up rather nicely. Thank you again

I'm kinda off set by the praying for the dead. I did read a lil bit about why Catholics do it. I just don't know why that would be a thing to do. I dunno... Maybe you could find out at church.

No problem I am happy to help.
I don't quite understand it all either and even asking at church you get vague answers or just personal opinions on rules so I have heard from others. Even using that Catholic site did not give me all I wanted to know.

 

[Ophel]

Indeed I can.

Not everyone gets to Jesus at the same time and we all get there differently.
Some people are raised Christian from birth.
Others find Jesus later on by themselves.
Some get help from others like friends and family.
Either way Jesus is there in the end and that is what matters.
Its not the path we take its that we get there in time and that's what should matter the most.
Who cares if someone is getting there faster or slower when we already know that they will be there eventually.

How do you know that anyone will get there eventually?

Even people raised in Christian homes reject the blessing of that and reject Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour. God says in His word: "Today is the day of your salvation." and, "Choose this day whom you will serve."

 

[Julie.S]

How do you know that anyone will get there eventually?

Even people raised in Christian homes reject the blessing of that and reject Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour. God says in His word: "Today is the day of your salvation." and, "Choose this day whom you will serve."

You need to have faith that they will and even trying to get there is wonderful in itself.
That is their choice you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

 

[Ophel]

You need to have faith that they will and even trying to get there is wonderful in itself.
That is their choice you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

We can lead them to Christ by speaking the gospel, and by living the Christian way before them, loving them as Jesus does. It is Jesus Himself by the work of His Holy Spirit through us that convinces them that they need Jesus. So we live before them, and pray for them, and work diligently to present Jesus Christ to them in all we say and do...even when we aren't being observed.

 

[Julie.S]

We can lead them to Christ by speaking the gospel, and by living the Christian way before them, loving them as Jesus does. It is Jesus Himself by the work of His Holy Spirit through us that convinces them that they need Jesus. So we live before them, and pray for them, and work diligently to present Jesus Christ to them in all we say and do...even when we aren't being observed.

That's all we can honestly do though and if that is your opinion then that is fine.

 

[Ophel]

That's all we can honestly do though and if that is your opinion then that is fine.

Great. It is my opinion because that is what the word of God teaches us, right?

 

[RJ]

What do you mean by "go under any type of bondage"

Here are your words to start this thread: "I think it would be best for my own sanity to take a break from this site. I have read some things that really worry and scare me on here."
This appears to have some pretty concerning first impressions...sanity, worry, scare. What I am saying is that I wouldn't want you to leave here with some form of spiritual doubt. "Bondage" is very common in the Christian world; basically, it is process by which one has doubts or confusion about a truth.....in other words, being held in bondage to an untruth....one becomes worried or scared over a Biblical / spiritual truth. Jesus said he wanted you to be set free by the truth, not held in bondage to an untruth!

 

[Julie.S]

Great. It is my opinion because that is what the word of God teaches us, right?

I suppose so though no one has put it quite like you have before though. Some people have also said they are spreading the word of God and I later found out its slightly twisted around or edited. I'm careful with things these days.