Is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit also revelation 22 18-19?

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Revelation 22 18-19 concerns me. I’ve heard in order to truly commit it someone has to do it in order to deceive others that what message they are saying is truth. It scares me because some say it’s unforgivable.

'For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
and out of the holy city,
and from the things which are written in this book.'
(Rev 22:18-19)

Hello @Andrew 1999,

If you have heard and believed the gospel of God concerning His Son, and received the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, then you have no reason to fear anything. For 'Perfect love casts out fear,' and God's love for you, in Christ Jesus, is PERFECT.

Your 'standing' before God is sure, for it does not depend on you, it is entirely of God, in Christ.
Your 'state' does not influence your 'standing' before God, because you are 'accepted in the Beloved'.
Your 'state' is your present life and witness: and faithfulness and a life lived to the glory of God, will be rewarded.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris

 

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Blaspheming agaisnt the Holy Spirit is rejection of God's salvation. Knowingly and maliciously, like the pharisees. You know the Lord's last words on the cross, "Forgive them, Father, for they DO NOT KNOW what they're doing." That was told to the Roman soldiers who beat him and hung him. They were being ignorant and can be forgiven, but the pharisees as teachers and leaders who knew exactly what they were doing, and they cannot be forgiven.

Hello @Jonathan_Gale,

I clicked to say that I agreed with what you had said (above): but on second reading I find that I question what you say in your first sentence (quote) 'Blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is rejection of God's salvation.' I do not agree with this. For it is clearly told to us, that it was the attributing of the work of the Holy Spirit to a Demon (Beelzebub) that was condemned as blaspheme and 'unforgiveable'. Don't you agree? (Mark 3:28-29)

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Br. Bear]

Hello @Jonathan_Gale,

I clicked to say that I agreed with what you had said (above): but on second reading I find that I question what you say in your first sentence (quote) 'Blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is rejection of God's salvation.' I do not agree with this. For it is clearly told to us, that it was the attributing of the work of the Holy Spirit to a Demon (Beelzebub) that was condemned as blaspheme and 'unforgiveable'. Don't you agree? (Mark 3:28-29)

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Greetings Chris,

a look at 'finger of God' is very interesting and informative.
I mention this because i know you will look if you haven't already.

after looking, look again at this 'topic' (of the thread and your reply)

In Christ


Bless you ....><>

 

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Greetings Chris,

a look at 'finger of God' is very interesting and informative.
I mention this because i know you will look if you haven't already.

after looking, look again at this 'topic' (of the thread and your reply)

In Christ


Bless you ....><>

'Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh,
This is the finger of God:
and Pharaoh's heart was hardened,
and he hearkened not unto them;
as the LORD had said.'
(Exo 8:19)

'And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils,
by whom do your sons cast them out?
therefore shall they be your judges.
But if I with the finger of God cast out devils,
no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.'
(Luke 11:19-20)

Hello @Br. Bear:

The words, 'the finger of God' refers to the Holy Spirit, yes.

Is the, 'finger of God', you refer to, a thread title? Where will I find it?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Hello @Jonathan_Gale,

I clicked to say that I agreed with what you had said (above): but on second reading I find that I question what you say in your first sentence (quote) 'Blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is rejection of God's salvation.' I do not agree with this. For it is clearly told to us, that it was the attributing of the work of the Holy Spirit to a Demon (Beelzebub) that was condemned as blaspheme and 'unforgiveable'. Don't you agree? (Mark 3:28-29)

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Yeah, that was denial of God’s mighty work of salvation, intentionally bearing false witness with a spiteful attitude. It’s like biting the hand that feeds you, that can’t be forgiven.

 

[B-A-C]

Blaspheming agaisnt the Holy Spirit is rejection of God's salvation.

The only trouble with this is... if you've ever had the chance to receive Jesus and said no... no second chances. You can't be forgiven.
There are plenty of people ( millions ? ) who may not have accepted Jesus the first time, but eventually got around to it.

There are atheists who rejected God for years, but eventually got saved. How could that happen if they could never be forgiven?

When the Jews and Romans crucified Jesus, He said "Father forgive them". How could they be forgiven for rejecting Him?

In Acts 2, Peter gives his first great sermon.

Acts 2:22; "Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know—
Acts 2:23; this Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.

Acts 2:36; "Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified."
Acts 2:37; Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brethren, what shall we do?"

Now of course it was Roman soldiers who nailed Jesus to the cross, but the Jewish people wanted Jesus to be crucified. The Romans had no reason to crucify Jesus, the Jews wanted it.
No doubt there were people present here who witnessed the crucifixion of Jesus. No doubt some of them were the very people crying out "Crucify Him!" (How is that for rejection!)
It says here they were pierced to the heart, and they asked Peter, what shall we do now?

Acts 2:38; Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:41; So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls

3,000 of these people got saved that day, Peter told them they could receive the Holy Spirit. It doesn't sound like they could never be forgiven for rejecting Jesus.

Peters second sermon in Acts 3 is similar.

Acts 3:12; But when Peter saw this, he replied to the people, "Men of Israel, why are you amazed at this, or why do you gaze at us, as if by our own power or piety we had made him walk?
Acts 3:13; "The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, the one whom you delivered and disowned in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release Him.
Acts 3:14; "But you disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked for a murderer to be granted to you,
Acts 3:15; but put to death the Prince of life, the one whom God raised from the dead, a fact to which we are witnesses.

Peter says you people are the ones who "disowned" Jesus, traded Him for a murderer, and had Him put to death.

Acts 3:19; "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;

But even though they rejected Jesus, Peter says they can repent and come back to God.

See post #12 in this thread, the only sin committed before Jesus tells them what the unforgivable sin is... is they said Jesus was casting out demons by the power of demons.

 

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[Jonathan_Gale]

The only trouble with this is... if you've ever had the chance to receive Jesus and said no... no second chances. You can't be forgiven.
There are plenty of people ( millions ? ) who may not have accepted Jesus the first time, but eventually got around to it.

There are atheists who rejected God for years, but eventually got saved. How could that happen if they could never be forgiven?

Those are not rejection of the Holy Spirit, but rejection of Jesus, as in “blaspheming the son of God,” that can be forgiven. However, KNOWINGLY, MALICIOUSLY, INTENTIONALLY, CONSTANTLY reject the Holy Spirit is another matter. This is not just denying the name of Jesus like in the cases you described, but denying the work of Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit. You know God sees the heart of man, and the heart of the problem is the problem of the heart. That is an evil, rebellious attitude out of a prideful heart.

 

[Waggles]

but denying the work of Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit.

Oh you mean like how many non-Pentecostal Christians attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to demons ??

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Oh you mean like how many non-Pentecostal Christians attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to demons ??

I'm not a fan of labels.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings Chris,

'Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh,
This is the finger of God:
and Pharaoh's heart was hardened,
and he hearkened not unto them;
as the LORD had said.'
(Exo 8:19)

'And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils,
by whom do your sons cast them out?
therefore shall they be your judges.
But if I with the finger of God cast out devils,
no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.'
(Luke 11:19-20)

Hello @Br. Bear:

The words, 'the finger of God' refers to the Holy Spirit, yes.

Is the, 'finger of God', you refer to, a thread title? Where will I find it?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

"The words, 'the finger of God' refers to the Holy Spirit, yes."
No. Not directly, anyway.

and, "

Is the, 'finger of God', you refer to, a thread title?"

No, not that i am aware of.

Regarding 'the finger of God', in reading in context WITHOUT any preloaded idea or thinking (goes for you, me and everyone!) we might 'see' something more than what we might otherwise glance over.

You quoted two instances [thank you and let us praise God, Who alone is worthy of praise] - did you notice the part [repeated] of Pharaoh hardened his heart .... and hearkened not ?
{While in Exodus 8, interesting to note the flies.... and the term used in the New Testament/Gospels of Beelzebub.
Also, Baal Zebub, from 2Kings 1 - again, pertinently interesting and informative, here. Please also note the fact they said Jesus cast out by Beelzebub - why Beelzebul, when they knew of the Scripture/history, etc relating to such?}


Also, one might recall Jesus writing with His finger. There are other instances in Scripture of writing.

Please also note that the finger is before the outstretched hand and arm of the LORD.
Could it be something in the timing we are missing?

Back to Moses and Aaron - God sent them to deliver His people... which they did and then on through the waters. Does that remind you of Someone. What was Jesus doing that He was falsely accused of in the reference you gave?

Luke 11:28 is pertinent, also.
The whole of Luke 11 quite something when you read the flow of it, concerning our ' standard interpretation' of a verse or two.

see also Luke 11:45-46
Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto Him, Master, thus saying Thou reproachest us also. And He said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

When Jesus mentioned the 'finger of God' to those accusers, they would have 'joined the dots'. Had Jesus not been Who He was, it would have been a blasphemous statement/claim. (We see repeatedly that Jesus matched all referring claims with 'proof' and good works that were impossible for man.)
Perhaps also the writing with His finger was 'saying something' , if nothing else, why do you bring this to Me, is it because you have an unaccepted truth about Who I AM? Also, on that passage, God gave commandment, Jesus obeyed the lawof God, yet the lawof Moses (added) was not part of that Law. I delight to do Thy will...

Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Matthew 3:15

I delight to do Thy will, O my God: yea, Thy law is within my heart. Psalm 40:8

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:17, 18 (it/they don't need to pass! )

The LORD is well pleased for His righteousness' sake; He will magnify the law, and make it honourable. Isaiah 42:21

Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20

there is more to it all than meets the eye, Chris.
By faith we walk.


Please excuse this jumbled sort of post. May our Lord open it to you what is in my attempt to express in/with my tongue that which is resounding in my spirit.

Some posts here suggest things that are not actually written and i know we have heard a lot of things that we might repeat but when we turn to Scripture, the tapestry becomes more beautiful.

I would write more but am limited at present. (there are more 'dots to join' )


Bless you ....><>

Behold My servant,
whom I have chosen;
My beloved,
in Whom My soul is well pleased:
I will put My spirit upon Him,
and He shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
He shall not strive,
nor cry;
neither shall any man hear His voice in the streets.
A bruised reed shall He not break,
and smoking flax shall He not quench,
till He send forth judgment unto victory.
And in His name shall the Gentiles trust.

--

He that is not with Me is against Me

--

O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world ] to come.

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

--

no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

 

[B-A-C]

The 10 commandments come to mind.

Exod 8:19; Then the magicians said to Pharaoh, "This is the finger of God." But Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had said.
Exod 31:18; When He had finished speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, He gave Moses the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God.
Deut 9:10; "The LORD gave me the two tablets of stone written by the finger of God; and on them were all the words which the LORD had spoken with you at the mountain from the midst of the fire on the day of the assembly.
Luke 11:20; "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Dan 5:5; Suddenly the fingers of a man's hand emerged and began writing opposite the lampstand on the plaster of the wall of the king's palace, and the king saw the back of the hand that did the writing.
Dan 5:23; but you have exalted yourself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of His house before you, and you and your nobles, your wives and your concubines have been drinking wine from them; and you have praised the gods of silver and gold, of bronze, iron, wood and stone, which do not see, hear or understand. But the God in whose hand are your life-breath and all your ways, you have not glorified.
Dan 5:24; "Then the hand was sent from Him and this inscription was written out.

I was thinking, wouldn't it be something to see the stone tablets that God Himself wrote upon? Wouldn't it be something to see the palace wall where God Himself wrote on the wall.

 

[Br. Bear]

Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Hebrews 10:7

I was thinking, wouldn't it be something to see the stone tablets that God Himself wrote upon? Wouldn't it be something to see the palace wall where God Himself wrote on the wall.

Yet can we now see something more beautiful...

This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Hebrews 10:16-17


Bless you ....><>
@B-A-C

 

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Greetings Chris,



"The words, 'the finger of God' refers to the Holy Spirit, yes."
No. Not directly, anyway.

and, "

No, not that i am aware of.

Regarding 'the finger of God', in reading in context WITHOUT any preloaded idea or thinking (goes for you, me and everyone!) we might 'see' something more than what we might otherwise glance over.

You quoted two instances [thank you and let us praise God, Who alone is worthy of praise] - did you notice the part [repeated] of Pharaoh hardened his heart .... and hearkened not ?
{While in Exodus 8, interesting to note the flies.... and the term used in the New Testament/Gospels of Beelzebub.
Also, Baal Zebub, from 2Kings 1 - again, pertinently interesting and informative, here. Please also note the fact they said Jesus cast out by Beelzebub - why Beelzebul, when they knew of the Scripture/history, etc relating to such?}


Also, one might recall Jesus writing with His finger. There are other instances in Scripture of writing.

Please also note that the finger is before the outstretched hand and arm of the LORD.
Could it be something in the timing we are missing?

Back to Moses and Aaron - God sent them to deliver His people... which they did and then on through the waters. Does that remind you of Someone. What was Jesus doing that He was falsely accused of in the reference you gave?

Luke 11:28 is pertinent, also.
The whole of Luke 11 quite something when you read the flow of it, concerning our ' standard interpretation' of a verse or two.

see also Luke 11:45-46
Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto Him, Master, thus saying Thou reproachest us also. And He said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

When Jesus mentioned the 'finger of God' to those accusers, they would have 'joined the dots'. Had Jesus not been Who He was, it would have been a blasphemous statement/claim. (We see repeatedly that Jesus matched all referring claims with 'proof' and good works that were impossible for man.)
Perhaps also the writing with His finger was 'saying something' , if nothing else, why do you bring this to Me, is it because you have an unaccepted truth about Who I AM? Also, on that passage, God gave commandment, Jesus obeyed the lawof God, yet the lawof Moses (added) was not part of that Law. I delight to do Thy will...

Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Matthew 3:15

I delight to do Thy will, O my God: yea, Thy law is within my heart. Psalm 40:8

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:17, 18 (it/they don't need to pass! )

The LORD is well pleased for His righteousness' sake; He will magnify the law, and make it honourable. Isaiah 42:21

Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20

there is more to it all than meets the eye, Chris.
By faith we walk.


Please excuse this jumbled sort of post. May our Lord open it to you what is in my attempt to express in/with my tongue that which is resounding in my spirit.

Some posts here suggest things that are not actually written and i know we have heard a lot of things that we might repeat but when we turn to Scripture, the tapestry becomes more beautiful.

I would write more but am limited at present. (there are more 'dots to join' )


Bless you ....><>

Behold My servant,
whom I have chosen;
My beloved,
in Whom My soul is well pleased:
I will put My spirit upon Him,
and He shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
He shall not strive,
nor cry;
neither shall any man hear His voice in the streets.
A bruised reed shall He not break,
and smoking flax shall He not quench,
till He send forth judgment unto victory.
And in His name shall the Gentiles trust.

--

He that is not with Me is against Me

--

O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world ] to come.

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

--

no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

Ref:- reply #22-#33

Hello @Br. Bear:

Thank you for such a full and interesting response. I shall follow this through.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head,
Chris

 

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'Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh,
This is the finger of God:
and Pharaoh's heart was hardened,
and he hearkened not unto them;
as the LORD had said.'
(Exodus 8:19 )

'And He gave unto Moses,
when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai,
two tables of testimony, tables of stone,
written with the finger of God.'
(Exodus 31:18)

'And the LORD delivered unto me
two tables of stone written with the finger of God;
and on them was written according to all the words,
which the LORD spake with you in the mount
out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly.'
(Deuteronomy 9:10)

'But if I with the finger of God cast out devils,
no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.'
(Luke 11:20 )

Hello @Br. Bear,

The reason why I said that 'the finger of God' in Luke 11:20 referred to the Holy Spirit, is because o f the allegation of the Pharisees, that the Lord was casting out devils:- 'through Beelzebub the chief of the devils'.(Matthew 12:24/ Mark 3:22): and our Lord's response to them in Matthew 12:26:- 'But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.'

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Br. Bear said:-

did you notice the part [repeated] of Pharaoh hardened his heart .... and hearkened not ?​

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* Yes, I found that interesting too.

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Br. Bear said:-

{While in Exodus 8, interesting to note the flies.... and the term used in the New Testament/Gospels of Beelzebub.​

Also, Baal Zebub, from 2Kings 1 - again, pertinently interesting and informative, here. Please also note the fact they said Jesus cast out by Beelzebub - why Beelzebul, when they knew of the Scripture/history, etc relating to such?}​

​

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* Yes indeed, that is interesting. ( Thank you) Beelzebub the - 'Prince/Chief of demons.' 'Lord of the flies', (2 Kings 1:2). Baal-zebub,

* Apparently the Jews changed the name Baal-zebub (Lord of the flies) to Baal-zebul, meaning (Lord of dung or dunghills) but in Matthew 24, it is in Greek - Baal-zebul ='Lord of abominable idols; the prince of idols and idolatry; the worst and chief of all wickedness ' (Bible marginal notes). In the light of this description, how great was the blaspheme!!

* It is well worth reading the account in 2 Kings 1, surrounding the use of the word Baal-zebub, isn't it? With the words of the Angel of the Lord to Elijah in verse 3, and what followed to the end of the chapter. For there Elijah emphasises the truth that He was indeed a Divinely designated, 'man of God'', and that there was indeed 'a God in Israel' by saying:- 'If I be a man of God then let fire come down from heaven and consume thee'.. This I felt brought light on our Lord's position in the gospel record, when He was alleged to be working miracles in the power of Beelzebub. There was indeed a God in Israel that day, He was among them and they knew it not. He that directed Moses, as 'The Angel of the Lord', and also directed Elijah in the same capacity, was having to stand and suffer such, 'contradiction of sinners against Himself,' as the, 'only Begotten Son of God': that He may go to the cross and become their Redeemer. What grace this exhibits, doesn't it? They deserved to be consumed with fire, but received instead the mercy and grace of God extended to them.

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Br. Bear said:-

Also, one might recall Jesus writing with His finger. There are other instances in Scripture of writing.​

​

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* Yes, in response to the Pharisees words in regard to the woman taken in adultery. When He wrote in the dust (John 8:6). They were testing Him again, by saying, ' Now Moses in the law commanded us that SUCH should be stoned: but what sayest Thou?' This law referred to a 'betrothed damsel' (Deut. 22:24), but the Lord knew that this woman was another man's wife, and therefore He complied with the law prescribed in this case (Numbers 5:11-31), and stooped down and wrote the curses (as required in Numbers 5:23) on the ground. Thereby leaving the punishment with God. He was not ignoring them, but doing what the law in Numbers 5 and Deuteronomy 22 required of Him for a case such as this.

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Br. Bear said:-

Please also note that the finger is before the outstretched hand and arm of the LORD.​

Could it be something in the timing we are missing?​

​

​

?

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Br. Bear said:-

Back to Moses and Aaron - God sent them to deliver His people... which they did and then on through the waters. Does that remind you of Someone. What was Jesus doing that He was falsely accused of in the reference you gave?​

​

​

* I think you are referring to my reference to Mark 3:28-30. There He had been casting out demons: Like Moses and Aaron delivering the People of Israel from the bondage of Egypt, He was delivering His people from the power of Satan, bringing them out of the bondage of Satan into the freedom of God in Christ Jesus. Out of darkness into light.

This as far as I can go, in response to your post, Br. Bear, at the moment, but I hope to return and continue to respond to the remaining notes later.

Thank you so much.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Andrew1999]

I wouldn't try to get Scriptural understandings from "Social Media Videos"

If You are concerned about committing it, then you haven't - simple as that. You need to see about becoming Born Again, and having your SIN cleansed.

Thanks for the encouragement. The fact I have guilt in my life indicates that it’s not too late for me.

 

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Luke 11:28 is pertinent, also.
The whole of Luke 11 quite something when you read the flow of it, concerning our ' standard interpretation' of a verse or two.Hel

'But He said, "Yea rather,
blessed are they
that hear the word of God,
and keep it."
(Luke 11:28)

Hello Br.Bear,

see also Luke 11:45-46
Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto Him, Master, thus saying Thou reproachest us also. And He said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

When Jesus mentioned the 'finger of God' to those accusers, they would have 'joined the dots'. Had Jesus not been Who He was, it would have been a blasphemous statement/claim. (We see repeatedly that Jesus matched all referring claims with 'proof' and good works that were impossible for man.)
Perhaps also the writing with His finger was 'saying something' , if nothing else, why do you bring this to Me, is it because you have an unaccepted truth about Who I AM? Also, on that passage, God gave commandment, Jesus obeyed the law of God, yet the law of Moses (added) was not part of that Law. I delight to do Thy will...

Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Matthew 3:15

I delight to do Thy will, O my God: yea, Thy law is within my heart. Psalm 40:8

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:17, 18 (it/they don't need to pass! )

The LORD is well pleased for His righteousness' sake; He will magnify the law, and make it honourable. Isaiah 42:21

Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20

there is more to it all than meets the eye, Chris.
By faith we walk.


Please excuse this jumbled sort of post. May our Lord open it to you what is in my attempt to express in/with my tongue that which is resounding in my spirit.

Some posts here suggest things that are not actually written and i know we have heard a lot of things that we might repeat but when we turn to Scripture, the tapestry becomes more beautiful.

I would write more but am limited at present. (there are more 'dots to join' )


Bless you ....><>

Behold My servant,
whom I have chosen;
My beloved,
in Whom My soul is well pleased:
I will put My spirit upon Him,
and He shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
He shall not strive,
nor cry;
neither shall any man hear His voice in the streets.
A bruised reed shall He not break,
and smoking flax shall He not quench,
till He send forth judgment unto victory.
And in His name shall the Gentiles trust.

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He that is not with Me is against Me

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O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world ] to come.

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

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no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

* It is not a jumble, and I thank you for it.

* In regard to Luke 11:20, and the words, '... the finger of God', I am told in the book I have about figures of speech in Scripture, that here in Luke 11:20 (quote):- 'A finger is attributed to God, to denote the putting forth of His formative power, and the direct and immediate act of God'. We see reference to, 'the right hand of God' often in Scripture, don't we? Denoting the highest power, and most Divine authority. The prophets spoke of 'the hand of the Lord' being upon them (1 Kings 18:46), We read also of 'the hand of the Lord': that it is mighty.

'And the hand of the Lord was with them:
and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.'
(Act 11:21)

'And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait:
let us fall now into the hand of the LORD;
for His mercies are great:
and let me not fall into the hand of man.'

* Praise God! That we are 'in' Christ, Who is seated at 'the right hand' of God, where He ever intercedes for us before God, as our advocate, as Moses did with the children of Israel. Thank God! for His mercy, His grace, and for the love of Christ that passeth knowledge.

I hope I have not disappointed.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[complete]

Thanks for the encouragement. The fact I have guilt in my life indicates that it’s not too late for me.

Subject heading:- Is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit also Revelation 22 18-19?​

Hi @Andrew1999,

Have you heard and believed the gospel of God concerning His Son the Lord Jesus Christ? Do you know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour? If you have then you have no reason to fear any of these things. The Lord Jesus Christ bore the guilt of your sins upon Himself on the cross, and died in your place, that you may be clothed in His righteousness, and be able to approach God without fear, in the certain knowledge that when He looks at you, He sees you as one who is Holy and without blame, because you are now 'in' His Beloved Son. You are accepted in the Beloved.

Within His love and grace.
Chris

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Thanks for the encouragement. The fact I have guilt in my life indicates that it’s not too late for me.

If it was too late, you wouldn't care.

 

[Br. Bear]

@complete

Greetings,

* Yes, in response to the Pharisees words in regard to the woman taken in adultery. When He wrote in the dust (John 8:6).

and a second time, if we read on....

And again He stooped down, and wrote on the ground. verse 8 of John Chapter 8

Not the first time a writing was done twice.

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Thank you very much for your replies, thus far. One of the pleasant things about being a Member here at TalkJesus - being able to openly communicate and share the wonders of the Bible as we look and look again.


I shall continue later (Lord be willing) and go back over your replies, Chris.


Bless you ....><>