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Is smoking weed a sin?
Is smoking Marijuana a sin?
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There is no specific verse that says "don't smoke marijuana".
But there are plenty about being intoxicated by mind altering drugs.
Eph 5:18; And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,
Rom 13:13; Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy.
Gal 5:21; envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Pet 4:3; For the time already past is sufficient for you to have carried out the desire of the Gentiles, having pursued a course of sensuality, lusts, drunkenness, carousing, drinking parties and abominable idolatries.
Gal 5:20; idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
The word sorcery here is actually...
φαρμακεία
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.
Total KJV occurrences: 3
This is where we get the word "pharmacy" or drug store. It seems taking mind altering drugs is the same thing as practicing sorcery.
Rev 21:8; "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
Rev 22:15; Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.
But there are plenty about being intoxicated by mind altering drugs.
Eph 5:18; And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,
Rom 13:13; Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy.
Gal 5:21; envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Pet 4:3; For the time already past is sufficient for you to have carried out the desire of the Gentiles, having pursued a course of sensuality, lusts, drunkenness, carousing, drinking parties and abominable idolatries.
Gal 5:20; idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
The word sorcery here is actually...
φαρμακεία
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.
Total KJV occurrences: 3
This is where we get the word "pharmacy" or drug store. It seems taking mind altering drugs is the same thing as practicing sorcery.
Rev 21:8; "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
Rev 22:15; Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.
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I dont thinking smoking or drinking is in itself bad. But it is very easy to become addicted. And addictions bring us into bondage and constantly try to take the place of God as far as our priorities go. So yea very unwise to smoke.
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I understand what you mean but the statement could be misleading, I think.
Drinking alcohol, affects the mind, taking drugs also affects the mind, there is the warning.
Now someone may have a glass of wine and it not affect them, or one can or bottle of beer again not affecting them.
Someone may have one shot of marijuana, it may affect their mind, it may not, or better put I think, they may not think it affects their mind.
The trouble is the above items are of different strengths, and more importantly to consider is they are all addictive.
As our dear brother B-A-C put above, it is the affect these things have on the mind that is the most important factor.
If an item affects the mind, it affects our ability to see things clearly, respond to things quickly, etc, etc.
We are warned about all these mind affecting situations in scripture, one glass of wire or bottle of beer may be OK, when it affects the mind it is to late.
But smoking of any kind, due to addiction and how they affect the mind are very dangerous.
What if a person drunk to much, what if a person was on the way or out of it with smoking weed, what happens if Jesus returns that very night?
Drugs like these do not solve problems, they create more. They give relief, maybe, for a short period, then everything is back as it was, if not worse.
We are warned in many ways in The Word, the parable of the 10 virgins comes to mind again, or maybe I should say, the 5 foolish virgins.
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Rom 14:9-15 Drinking and eating are not done to what others think,they are done according to what your faith agrees to. If a brother or a sister comes to my house and believe's to them it is a sin to do either,then I would never serve it!! But do not look to place bondage on me for doing it.( 1 Tim 5:23)
Did Timothy find it a sin to drink? No he did not, in fact he said through the Spirit to partake of it. A Little! lol Jesus first miracle was to change water into wine,was that a sin for him to preform this?? Let Holy Spirit guide you,not Doctrine laid forth by people who know very little about the Word of God!( Rom 8:14-15) And for those who judge, not any here,but just to give you a weapon against such, show them what the Lord showed me when I did the same thing!( Rom 2:1-5) Verse 4!!!!
Did Timothy find it a sin to drink? No he did not, in fact he said through the Spirit to partake of it. A Little! lol Jesus first miracle was to change water into wine,was that a sin for him to preform this?? Let Holy Spirit guide you,not Doctrine laid forth by people who know very little about the Word of God!( Rom 8:14-15) And for those who judge, not any here,but just to give you a weapon against such, show them what the Lord showed me when I did the same thing!( Rom 2:1-5) Verse 4!!!!
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I wonder why God created these things ?
God Did create the grapes -- what do We do with them? We are warned about when to Not drink it.
Just because 'we' figured out how to smoke it, doesn't mean we Should be.
Medical research has developed many things that-- used in their proper way-- are Wonderful. But our misuse causes problems. Greed is powerful.
And there are those who will Look for ways to 'get high' or stumble onto them -- and --due to the evil in their hearts -- Try to people hooked on 'stuff' -- they like to see people suffer and make money off of them. It goes back to the fruit of the knowledge of both good and EVIL that Adam and Eve bit into.
I was looking up marijuana plant and it's origins. It's origins appear to be from China -- seems that it was originally used to make clothing / pottery and it's oils used in cooking.
so -- apparently God's creating and man's useage have been a bit different. The opening question has been -- is smoking marijuana a sin? well -- it seems that it was never meant To be smoked. Goes back to 'what are we putting into our bodies'.
I wonder if it's oils were Meant To be used in cooking.
And -- are they part of the weeds that God caused to grow after the fall of Adam and Eve. the same part of the world as China?
Just because 'we' figured out how to smoke it, doesn't mean we Should be.
Medical research has developed many things that-- used in their proper way-- are Wonderful. But our misuse causes problems. Greed is powerful.
And there are those who will Look for ways to 'get high' or stumble onto them -- and --due to the evil in their hearts -- Try to people hooked on 'stuff' -- they like to see people suffer and make money off of them. It goes back to the fruit of the knowledge of both good and EVIL that Adam and Eve bit into.
I was looking up marijuana plant and it's origins. It's origins appear to be from China -- seems that it was originally used to make clothing / pottery and it's oils used in cooking.
so -- apparently God's creating and man's useage have been a bit different. The opening question has been -- is smoking marijuana a sin? well -- it seems that it was never meant To be smoked. Goes back to 'what are we putting into our bodies'.
I wonder if it's oils were Meant To be used in cooking.
And -- are they part of the weeds that God caused to grow after the fall of Adam and Eve. the same part of the world as China?
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The best definition of sin that I have come across is anything that is less than God is sin or another way, if the man Jesus were here would he do that?
Remember though that he did do things that at the time we might raise an eyebrow at and certainly those around him did, for example, breaking the strict Sabbath and turning water into wine.
Did Jesus enjoy a glass of wine? Well maybe. I believe it is up to the individual and their attitude towards alcohol and like other posters have said, drunkenness is specifically warned about. However, drugs I believe is morally wrong on every level. People stab and shoot each other for the right to supply them. One doesn't take drugs to quench your thirst or for the taste, the sole purpose of drugs is mind alteration and the risk of addiction and damage to your body is high.
I'm not sure how you can justify that as glorifying God in way?
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Sin is simple to define, anything that is against God's will and commands
So back to Frank's question...
A simple answer has to be YES
Why? Because anything that takes away a clear mind, anything that clouds the mind is Sin.
God wants us to keep our eyes on Jesus, He wants us to come to Him through Jesus, that is why we are not told not to drink, but not get drunk, not to drink if it affects our clear thoughts, our walk with Jesus, our prayers and faith in God our Father.
We are to watch and be ready for Christ's Return in Glory, be vigilant, be prepared, we cannot do that if drink, take or inject drugs, smoking weed etc as they all affects our minds. Wine or beer may take longer to affect our minds, but it affects them before we realise it, on the other hand drugs work faster in the body so should be avoided, the more toxic they are the faster they affect our minds and are more addictive.
The devil always changes the labels, dresses things up to look and sound good. Homosexuality is now called Gay, Sin is called white lies, drugs have other names like ecstasy makes it sound acceptable, marijuana called weed,
The word TOXIC should surely warn us, but we never hear that word, the devil comes to destroy us, affect our thinking, so that we stop looking and coming to Jesus.
WARNING
THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF MARIJUANA.
The immediate effects of taking marijuana include rapid heart beat, disorientation, lack of physical coordination, often followed by depression or sleepiness.
There are many health risks with smoking weed, including lung and other cancers.
WARNING
Ecstasy (MDMA ,3,4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a synthetic, psychoactive drug chemically similar to the stimulant methamphetamine and the hallucinogen mescaline. It is an illegal drug that acts as both a stimulant and psychedelic, producing an energizing effect, (Highs) as well as distortions in time and perception and enhanced enjoyment from tactile experiences.
Its primary effects are in the brain on neurons that use the chemical serotonin to communicate with other neurons. The serotonin system plays an important role in regulating mood, aggression, sexual activity, sleep, and sensitivity to pain.
The devil comes to destroy us, destroy our minds, destroy our bodies. Stop us coming to Jesus.
What would Jesus do? What would Jesus say? --- I think the answer here is very simple and very clear.
Is smoking weed a sin? --- Again I think the answer is very clear.
Blessings.
So back to Frank's question...
A simple answer has to be YES
Why? Because anything that takes away a clear mind, anything that clouds the mind is Sin.
God wants us to keep our eyes on Jesus, He wants us to come to Him through Jesus, that is why we are not told not to drink, but not get drunk, not to drink if it affects our clear thoughts, our walk with Jesus, our prayers and faith in God our Father.
We are to watch and be ready for Christ's Return in Glory, be vigilant, be prepared, we cannot do that if drink, take or inject drugs, smoking weed etc as they all affects our minds. Wine or beer may take longer to affect our minds, but it affects them before we realise it, on the other hand drugs work faster in the body so should be avoided, the more toxic they are the faster they affect our minds and are more addictive.
The devil always changes the labels, dresses things up to look and sound good. Homosexuality is now called Gay, Sin is called white lies, drugs have other names like ecstasy makes it sound acceptable, marijuana called weed,
The word TOXIC should surely warn us, but we never hear that word, the devil comes to destroy us, affect our thinking, so that we stop looking and coming to Jesus.
WARNING
THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF MARIJUANA.
The immediate effects of taking marijuana include rapid heart beat, disorientation, lack of physical coordination, often followed by depression or sleepiness.
There are many health risks with smoking weed, including lung and other cancers.
WARNING
Ecstasy (MDMA ,3,4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a synthetic, psychoactive drug chemically similar to the stimulant methamphetamine and the hallucinogen mescaline. It is an illegal drug that acts as both a stimulant and psychedelic, producing an energizing effect, (Highs) as well as distortions in time and perception and enhanced enjoyment from tactile experiences.
Its primary effects are in the brain on neurons that use the chemical serotonin to communicate with other neurons. The serotonin system plays an important role in regulating mood, aggression, sexual activity, sleep, and sensitivity to pain.
The devil comes to destroy us, destroy our minds, destroy our bodies. Stop us coming to Jesus.
What would Jesus do? What would Jesus say? --- I think the answer here is very simple and very clear.
Is smoking weed a sin? --- Again I think the answer is very clear.
Blessings.
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Brother Paul,it is not as simple as you lay claim. For many Veterans who have suffered greatly with such things as severe, and I mean severe back pain and such, many have gone to cannabis to relieve the pain.just like many take aspirins for a headache. They claim to be believers as well,should I judge them? Well not me! I sure would not recommend it,but I do understand it.
The express purpose of using this drug,is to alter the pain elements in the brain,so that a person is not screaming in pain all the time,and if you have never seen a person in this condition,then please go to a Veterans Hospital some time. To the person in normal shape,who is also sound in body as well and still does it,I look at it the same as drinking or smoking anything.( Rom 14:23)
We have enough judges around us daily,Jesus did not go around condemning those he saw,he did what we are suppose to do provide an escape.(1Cor 10:13) Judgment is reserved for the Church,not those outside it.( 1Peter 4:17-18) I have never found a reason to judge outside the Church,we already know there condition. Do we think that everybody Jesus healed deserved it? ( Rom 2:4!!!!!) And remember faith works through love( Gal 5:6) One will never mature until Holy Spirit revels his truth to the believer.( 2 Peter 3:18) For without grace,one can never even begin to understand the knowledge of our Jesus.
The express purpose of using this drug,is to alter the pain elements in the brain,so that a person is not screaming in pain all the time,and if you have never seen a person in this condition,then please go to a Veterans Hospital some time. To the person in normal shape,who is also sound in body as well and still does it,I look at it the same as drinking or smoking anything.( Rom 14:23)
We have enough judges around us daily,Jesus did not go around condemning those he saw,he did what we are suppose to do provide an escape.(1Cor 10:13) Judgment is reserved for the Church,not those outside it.( 1Peter 4:17-18) I have never found a reason to judge outside the Church,we already know there condition. Do we think that everybody Jesus healed deserved it? ( Rom 2:4!!!!!) And remember faith works through love( Gal 5:6) One will never mature until Holy Spirit revels his truth to the believer.( 2 Peter 3:18) For without grace,one can never even begin to understand the knowledge of our Jesus.
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The topic is, is smoking weed a sin?
That was covered, confirming it is a sin, and a warning was added, as you say, you wouldn't recommend it. Nothing was ever mentioned of special circumstances or special situations so it is fair, I believe, to add the comments I did.
As for your comments regarding judging, no one is judging my friend, unless you are judging the comments which were made earlier.
You mention, The express purpose of using this drug,is to alter the pain elements in the brain,so that a person is not screaming in pain all the time,and if you have never seen a person in this condition,then please go to a Veterans Hospital some time. To the person in normal shape,who is also sound in body as well and still does it,I look at it the same as drinking or smoking anything.( Rom 14:23)
Let me confirm please, yes I feel for these people, life can be extremely hard, I possibly understand more than you realise. I am disabled, I am a wheel chair user, I suffer pain.at varying degrees, 24/7. It is hard to cope with, it is hard to bear, it is hard to balance, coming on here with brothers and sisters in Christ really helps me, encourages me, it lifts me up. So I do understand my friend, I wish I was a person in normal shape, in sound body, but I am not, I just have to make the best of it and get on with it. I am at present worse than my wife, she has to inject a cancer drug once a week, to slow down her rheumatoid and asteoarthritis, it is like loosing her 1 day a week, the drug is horrible. She takes the drug to slow down the pain she will suffer more as time goes on.
So I say in love my friend, I understand more than you realise, I come back to my post before you replied. It was an answer to, is taking weed sin, I appreciate there are exceptional circumstances and situations in this life, there always is in life, but I still feel my reply was given in good faith, according to The Word, with a warning as to the toxicity and addiction of taking such drugs, which cloud the mind. Special circumstances was not in the discussion at that point.
Peace be with you.
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Hi Brother Paul. As a Vietnam Veteran and one who is also disabled, you stated this was covered and is a sin???? I also covered this as not a sin. Sin in part, is ones own doubt.( Rom 14:23) I have none in this area myself brother. Since you good brother have dealt with a great deal of pain as I have,I would think as an ambassador for Jesus,you, as I would wish to extend grace to those who may not be as strong in the faith as we are.( 2 Cor 5:18-21) Now may the peace of God which surpasses ALL understanding keep your heart and mind in Christ Jesus.( Phil 4:7-9)
Just smoking 'pot' for the sake of smoking it Is wrong. And, yes, I Also realize that there is apparently a medicinal use for it.
After reading these last two posts -- obviously there Is a real need for pain relieving aspects of 'pot'.
There Are some who say that there Are other pain meds available For lots of pain. However - what about insurance overage -- access To these other drugs --Their side affects , etc. addictive qualities. No easy answers.
Part of the problem that I've understood about marijuana useage is it's effect on people -- they don't really care about anything / lethargic --and maybe That's part of why it Is popular and being legalized in many states. People won't care what happens in the world --easier to control a population of laid-back people. They won't Care who is voted into public office.
After reading these last two posts -- obviously there Is a real need for pain relieving aspects of 'pot'.
There Are some who say that there Are other pain meds available For lots of pain. However - what about insurance overage -- access To these other drugs --Their side affects , etc. addictive qualities. No easy answers.
Part of the problem that I've understood about marijuana useage is it's effect on people -- they don't really care about anything / lethargic --and maybe That's part of why it Is popular and being legalized in many states. People won't care what happens in the world --easier to control a population of laid-back people. They won't Care who is voted into public office.
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This drug has helped a great many cancer patients as well as those who suffer from epilepsy!! Please check for yourself. I have seen so many weak with grief as to there conditions. The flesh does not want to die,ask Jesus at the garden.( Luke 22:44) If one is dieing over anything and they wish to use anything to both stop the pain and perhaps even get them back to right health who am I to judge what they do to stay alive and out of pain??
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I appreciate the predicament of those you mention, I am also aware many country's and parts of USA still maintain it is an illegal drug. I am also aware the drug has helped many especially regarding pain.
I still maintain, according to scripture, that to take anything that affects the mind, blurs thoughts, creates an high, or similar is not acceptable and is a sin.
I still maintain the view, as stated above, that the drug is toxic, it is addictive, it is dangerous.
Those things said, there are equally strong drugs that have been monitored, tested, and are certificated for prescription, the question therefore remains, why has marijuana not been legalised. Most of the reasons I understand are political, which is common but also pathetic, to legalise the drug would cut down on cost of policing, law and order, court time and more. I think it is only a matter of time before it is legalised, countries and many US states have accepted it, it is frustrating for the sufferers who are not in countries and states where it is not yet legal. But it is not just marijuana, it is not just USA, there are many places in the UK where some drugs are available in one area but not in another. Sadly it has become a postcode lottery for many things.
Bless you
Legalised marijuana, is important, as doses are prescribed by medical professionals, the prescribed drugs are all of the same strength, no variations from one supply to another. These items are essential, I feel, for safe use of marijuana. But it will not totally take away the black market of illegal supply, those who cannot get a prescription will go elsewhere and obtain it illegally.
Is smoking weed a sin, yes it is if taken not just to relieve pain but the effect the mind, it is also a sin to obtain illegally.
Marijuana needs to be legalised and controlled, only prescribed to those who need it for medical reasons.
The same thing would apply to the use of morphine wouldn't It ? It's a strong pain reliever and it also very addictive. And it happens to many people -- after surgeries -- back / neck , etc. recovery is long and painful and people Try to get weaned off of the morphine -- sometimes it works , but other times, people become addicted to prescription pain killers.
But marijuana has been particularly bad. Seems that it started out as an illegal drug but some found a good medicinal use for it. And some IS legitimate. But there are So Many people who misuse it. Like the person who after a car accident claim back / neck pain -- there's no way to prove Other-wise unless someone catches them 'living normally' -- they figure out how to 'fake it' just to get disability benefits or whatever.
And - there are those who are So against any amount of alcohol in any form -- even medications -- cough medicine -- cold meds that help ya sleep. They 'suffer in 'righteousness' rather than being able to get sleep and feel better so they can work the next day.
And I realize that 'this' is off topic.
But marijuana has been particularly bad. Seems that it started out as an illegal drug but some found a good medicinal use for it. And some IS legitimate. But there are So Many people who misuse it. Like the person who after a car accident claim back / neck pain -- there's no way to prove Other-wise unless someone catches them 'living normally' -- they figure out how to 'fake it' just to get disability benefits or whatever.
And - there are those who are So against any amount of alcohol in any form -- even medications -- cough medicine -- cold meds that help ya sleep. They 'suffer in 'righteousness' rather than being able to get sleep and feel better so they can work the next day.
And I realize that 'this' is off topic.
You are the only one who knows the real you. No one on this forum does. Answer this question. Would you smoke weed if Jesus was sitting with you? Please don't post your answer.
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Are we aiming for purity or sin management?
Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Romans 14:14 I am convinced and fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.
Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Romans 14:14 I am convinced and fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.
