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Is there any more hot news on Russia & Ukraine up dates!

PloughBoy said:
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Yes - my test run has brought up something different to what I was watching on YouTube. Hhhmmm strange.
It was supposed to be a download recording of Tucker Carlson speaking about how the mainstream media were pushing incessantly for direct U.S. military involvement in Ukraine,
without any understanding of the consequences for this foolish intervention > WW3 > nuclear annihilation.
Tucker also played video clips of various dumb Washington politicians who were demanding a no fly zone and bombardment of Russia, again with no thought as to what this would mean: retaliation by Russia !!
Seems everybody in Washington have already forgotten Putin's speech in which he showed off the great technological nuclear missile advances that Russia had achieved
(while the U.S.A. was building gender neutral toilets).

In the video there is a clip of your President Biden talking to a military service audience in which he talks about supporting Ukraine, democracy and freedom and also publicly says that he is prepared to undertake a hot war with Russia. Yep that is what he said - "a hot war with Russia" - seems that the Greenies are going to get their depopulation policy afterall.
 
Guys, I think this thread needs a bit more balance.

unherd.com

The truth about Ukraine's far-Right militias

Russia has empowered dangerous factions
unherd.com unherd.com

Yes, there is a problem with Nazi support within Ukraine but is the answer to that for another country to invade and obliterate, murder as many people as possible and bring the rest to starvation and impoverishment? Bear in mind that prior to the invasion, the church in Ukraine was expanding Religion in Ukraine - Wikipedia The church in Ukraine was in a far better state than the church in the UK. God knows the number of our brothers and sisters who've had an early welcome into His glory, at the hands of Putin's murderous army. I pray that God will comfort, protect and provide for those who are left.

Back to topic. In the 1970s to 1990s in the UK there was a far right movement called the National Front made up mostly of disenfranchised yobs and thugs who blamed their lack of materialistic growth upon immigration: 'these lot are taking our jobs and houses' was a common call. During this period, they even managed to win a handful of local election seats on town councils. They slowly lost relevance and support. In the early 2000s another similar group called English Protection League emerged but they only managed to get a couple of hundred fellow yobs and thugs on their protest marches. Nowadays, the far right is an underground movement of psycho-terrorists reduced to pretty unsophisticated attacks on mosques.

In the USA I understand that the far right is more of a problem with groups like the self styled militia, Q-Anon who were instrumental in the storming of the Capitol Building a couple of years ago. In Europe far right parties have had more success in recent years in Austria, Greece and In France Marine Le Pen is set to significantly increase her vote in Sunday's election.

So is the answer to the far right problem, to invite Putin to come in and obliterate the far right and decimate the rest of the population whilst doing they're doing it? Are horrific war crimes of genocide and rapes a price worth paying? No right thinking person surely can agree with that.

The Ukrainian government has been democratically elected in free and fair elections monitored by the EU, something that Putin is not prepared to risk. What's happening in Ukraine is a tragedy on a national level, a personal level and just as importantly, to our poor brothers and sisters in Christ, who we should love, as Jesus loves us.
 
Andyindauk said:
Guys, I think this thread needs a bit more balance.

unherd.com

The truth about Ukraine's far-Right militias

Russia has empowered dangerous factions
unherd.com unherd.com

Yes, there is a problem with Nazi support within Ukraine but is the answer to that for another country to invade and obliterate, murder as many people as possible and bring the rest to starvation and impoverishment? Bear in mind that prior to the invasion, the church in Ukraine was expanding Religion in Ukraine - Wikipedia The church in Ukraine was in a far better state than the church in the UK. God knows the number of our brothers and sisters who've had an early welcome into His glory, at the hands of Putin's murderous army. I pray that God will comfort, protect and provide for those who are left.

Back to topic. In the 1970s to 1990s in the UK there was a far right movement called the National Front made up mostly of disenfranchised yobs and thugs who blamed their lack of materialistic growth upon immigration: 'these lot are taking our jobs and houses' was a common call. During this period, they even managed to win a handful of local election seats on town councils. They slowly lost relevance and support. In the early 2000s another similar group called English Protection League emerged but they only managed to get a couple of hundred fellow yobs and thugs on their protest marches. Nowadays, the far right is an underground movement of psycho-terrorists reduced to pretty unsophisticated attacks on mosques.

In the USA I understand that the far right is more of a problem with groups like the self styled militia, Q-Anon who were instrumental in the storming of the Capitol Building a couple of years ago. In Europe far right parties have had more success in recent years in Austria, Greece and In France Marine Le Pen is set to significantly increase her vote in Sunday's election.

So is the answer to the far right problem, to invite Putin to come in and obliterate the far right and decimate the rest of the population whilst doing they're doing it? Are horrific war crimes of genocide and rapes a price worth paying? No right thinking person surely can agree with that.

The Ukrainian government has been democratically elected in free and fair elections monitored by the EU, something that Putin is not prepared to risk. What's happening in Ukraine is a tragedy on a national level, a personal level and just as importantly, to our poor brothers and sisters in Christ, who we should love, as Jesus loves us.
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Agree with you on this. And it's clear that there is no Russian plan to deal with Nazi ideology, much more about extending Russian influence by force.

Let's keep praying for the refugees and those caught in the conflict.
 
Waggles said:
Yes - my test run has brought up something different to what I was watching on YouTube. Hhhmmm strange.
It was supposed to be a download recording of Tucker Carlson speaking about how the mainstream media were pushing incessantly for direct U.S. military involvement in Ukraine,
without any understanding of the consequences for this foolish intervention > WW3 > nuclear annihilation.
Tucker also played video clips of various dumb Washington politicians who were demanding a no fly zone and bombardment of Russia, again with no thought as to what this would mean: retaliation by Russia !!
Seems everybody in Washington have already forgotten Putin's speech in which he showed off the great technological nuclear missile advances that Russia had achieved
(while the U.S.A. was building gender neutral toilets).

In the video there is a clip of your President Biden talking to a military service audience in which he talks about supporting Ukraine, democracy and freedom and also publicly says that he is prepared to undertake a hot war with Russia. Yep that is what he said - "a hot war with Russia" - seems that the Greenies are going to get their depopulation policy afterall.
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Dear Waggles,
You're letting your personal inclination towards one side show. Don't be so one sided. I'm a retired military man, and to believe that the military of any major power that puts as much money into military R&D as the US or any other major power has/is only within the past two years is focused only on "building gender neutral toilets" is not understanding how the military works, or in general man's ability at creating armament that is capable of destroying humankind.

This is just a general reporting, but if you want to really want to know that R&D is still ongoing even with the "toilet seat" building US. Just reading up on the newly commissioned USS Delaware Attack Submarine. And I'm sure this is but the tip of the iceberg, since keeping under wraps military advancements is another part of the military mindset, (don't let your enemy know what you have) but here in the US and with how any major military power operates, advancements in military hardware should not be surprising to anyone. Now it might be different down under, but I'm sure even where you're at, the military is advancing in its own R&D. And though I don't put much credence on any testing that is put out there by the main stream media, I'm not surprised by it either since military propaganda on all sides is ramped up during times of military conflicts.

www.cnn.com

US tested hypersonic missile in mid-March but kept it quiet to avoid escalating tensions with Russia

The US successfully tested a hypersonic missile in mid-March but kept it quiet for two weeks to avoid escalating tensions with Russia as President Joe Biden was about to travel to Europe, according to a defense official familiar with the matter.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

My Brother in Christ, try to temper any personal bias for providing news on what's going on, because to anyone who is reading this thread it is clearly showing. Personally, even as someone who is retired from the military quite a few years ago, my focus, or really my hope is waiting for the return of our Lord and Savior Jesus, and praying for those who are our brothers & sisters in Christ Jesus, or just plain lost regardless of which side they are on. In the long run, regardless of which side any one wants to win, each day that passes brings us closer to our Lords return! Now that is something that needs more reporting!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Christ4Ever said:
You're letting your personal inclination towards one side show.
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Because the world is in denial of their own sinfulness and wickedness - people see the speck in the Russian eye and refuse to take the log out of their own eye - Putin is a monster and Russia is evil.
The truth is that all are evil and all do wickedness.
And this conflict has the grave danger to become the catalyst for the Biblical Armageddon.
There are many in Washington calling for direct military action against Russia - as Tucker Carlson speaks to in his video do any of these people understand the consequences of this ??
It is not a matter of Russia being right or entitled to invade Ukraine - it is more about that this has happened and what next??
If NATO think that this war will remain an ongoing insurgency within Ukraine then they are sadly mistaken.
Russia sees this proxy war and NATO's offensive actions as an existential threat to her existence. So then what next??
For Armageddon to happen the whole world has to be in conflict and the nations in military alliances in order to bring all the nations together in this great final battle against Jerusalem.

Rev 8:10 And the third angel trumped, and a great star fell from the heaven, burning as a torch, and fell upon the third of the rivers, and upon the fountains of the waters;
11 and the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
 
Waggles said:
Because the world is in denial of their own sinfulness and wickedness - people see the speck in the Russian eye and refuse to take the log out of their own eye - Putin is a monster and Russia is evil.
The truth is that all are evil and all do wickedness.
And this conflict has the grave danger to become the catalyst for the Biblical Armageddon.
There are many in Washington calling for direct military action against Russia - as Tucker Carlson speaks to in his video do any of these people understand the consequences of this ??
It is not a matter of Russia being right or entitled to invade Ukraine - it is more about that this has happened and what next??
If NATO think that this war will remain an ongoing insurgency within Ukraine then they are sadly mistaken.
Russia sees this proxy war and NATO's offensive actions as an existential threat to her existence. So then what next??
For Armageddon to happen the whole world has to be in conflict and the nations in military alliances in order to bring all the nations together in this great final battle against Jerusalem.

Rev 8:10 And the third angel trumped, and a great star fell from the heaven, burning as a torch, and fell upon the third of the rivers, and upon the fountains of the waters;
11 and the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
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Dear Waggles,
What you are doing is choosing sides, and determining who is righteous and who is not. Take care brother. Just as righteousness is wanting in the West, the East is not the standard of righteousness either! Yet, that is exactly who you are standing up as being so, even though this may not be your intent.

What you are doing here is very much the same as the Media in the US does in choosing a side, and then reporting what supports the position they have chosen is the right one. Anathema! That is not News reporting, instead it's propaganda and bias! You are just doing it for one side instead of the other. Maybe, if you were reporting both perspectives, and allowing the reader to determine where the truth is, it might serve you and others better.

You have to remember that God uses who He wills. Because He does so, does not make that tool anymore righteous then the one it is being used against! It's His Will that is righteous, and not the corrupted Nations of this World. All authority is God given, but it doesn't mean that the authority using people who apply it do so in a Godly fashion! (Romans 13:1) Babylon was used of God, and you can find other examples of this in Scripture, but it did not make those Nations God's people!

It's as if instead of being an Observer and reporting as such, you have decided to be a participant in what is going on. We are in the World not of it Brother! And the truth you need to be shouting from the roof tops is "Jesus is Returning, and He's coming as a Lion" to judge the quick and the dead. (Acts 10:42)

Even as you continue to report what is happening while hopefully in the future not inserting your personal feelings into determining the righteousness of any of the combatants, because there is none. The effectiveness of what you provide is better served when you are able to show both sides without making the decision for the reader on who is right/wrong.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><
 
Andyindauk said:
Guys, I think this thread needs a bit more balance.

unherd.com

The truth about Ukraine's far-Right militias

Russia has empowered dangerous factions
unherd.com unherd.com

Yes, there is a problem with Nazi support within Ukraine but is the answer to that for another country to invade and obliterate, murder as many people as possible and bring the rest to starvation and impoverishment? Bear in mind that prior to the invasion, the church in Ukraine was expanding Religion in Ukraine - Wikipedia The church in Ukraine was in a far better state than the church in the UK. God knows the number of our brothers and sisters who've had an early welcome into His glory, at the hands of Putin's murderous army. I pray that God will comfort, protect and provide for those who are left.

Back to topic. In the 1970s to 1990s in the UK there was a far right movement called the National Front made up mostly of disenfranchised yobs and thugs who blamed their lack of materialistic growth upon immigration: 'these lot are taking our jobs and houses' was a common call. During this period, they even managed to win a handful of local election seats on town councils. They slowly lost relevance and support. In the early 2000s another similar group called English Protection League emerged but they only managed to get a couple of hundred fellow yobs and thugs on their protest marches. Nowadays, the far right is an underground movement of psycho-terrorists reduced to pretty unsophisticated attacks on mosques.

In the USA I understand that the far right is more of a problem with groups like the self styled militia, Q-Anon who were instrumental in the storming of the Capitol Building a couple of years ago. In Europe far right parties have had more success in recent years in Austria, Greece and In France Marine Le Pen is set to significantly increase her vote in Sunday's election.

So is the answer to the far right problem, to invite Putin to come in and obliterate the far right and decimate the rest of the population whilst doing they're doing it? Are horrific war crimes of genocide and rapes a price worth paying? No right thinking person surely can agree with that.

The Ukrainian government has been democratically elected in free and fair elections monitored by the EU, something that Putin is not prepared to risk. What's happening in Ukraine is a tragedy on a national level, a personal level and just as importantly, to our poor brothers and sisters in Christ, who we should love, as Jesus loves us.
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Is there not a “God” in “Ukraine” too?

Can GOD alone protect “Ukraine” or does He help from mankind? Could be a “Discussion”?

Is There a “God” in Israel? That “Israel” have to go to “Egypt” for defense and aid?
The Bible stated.

I like “Biblical Motifs”
And the old testaments of events and stories. For I do believe GOD does not change and he still words in the Back Drops.

Jehoshaphat, you remember:

1Now Jehoshaphat had great wealth and honor, and he allied himself with Ahab by marriage. 2Some years later he went down to see Ahab in Samaria. Ahab slaughtered many sheep and cattle for him and the people with him and urged him to attack Ramoth Gilead. 3Ahab king of Israel asked Jehoshaphat king of Judah, “Will you go with me against Ramoth Gilead?”

Jehoshaphat replied, “I am as you are, and my people as your people; we will join you in the war.” 4But Jehoshaphat also said to the king of Israel, “First seek the counsel of the Lord.”

5So the king of Israel brought together the prophets—four hundred men—and asked them, “Shall we go to war against Ramoth Gilead, or shall I not?”

“Go,” they answered, “for God will give it into the king’s hand.”

6But Jehoshaphat asked, “Is there no longer a prophet of the Lord here whom we can inquire of?”

7The king of Israel answered Jehoshaphat, “There is still one prophet through whom we can inquire of the Lord, but I hate him because he never prophesies anything good about me, but always bad. He is Micaiah son of Imlah.”

“The king should not say such a thing,” Jehoshaphat replied.

8So the king of Israel called one of his officials and said, “Bring Micaiah son of Imlah at once.”

9Dressed in their royal robes, the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat king of Judah were sitting on their thrones at the threshing floor by the entrance of the gate of Samaria, with all the prophets prophesying before them. 10Now Zedekiah son of Kenaanah had made iron horns, and he declared, “This is what the Lord says: ‘With these you will gore the Arameans until they are destroyed.’ ”

11All the other prophets were prophesying the same thing. “Attack Ramoth Gilead and be victorious,” they said, “for the Lord will give it into the king’s hand.”

12The messenger who had gone to summon Micaiah said to him, “Look, the other prophets without exception are predicting success for the king. Let your word agree with theirs, and speak favorably.”

13But Micaiah said, “As surely as the Lord lives, I can tell him only what my God says.”

14When he arrived, the king asked him, “Micaiah, shall we go to war against Ramoth Gilead, or shall I not?”

“Attack and be victorious,” he answered, “for they will be given into your hand.”

15The king said to him, “How many times must I make you swear to tell me nothing but the truth in the name of the Lord?”

16Then Micaiah answered, “I saw all Israel scattered on the hills like sheep without a shepherd, and the Lord said, ‘These people have no master. Let each one go home in peace.’ ”

17The king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, “Didn’t I tell you that he never prophesies anything good about me, but only bad?”

18Micaiah continued, “Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lordsitting on his throne with all the multitudes of heaven standing on his right and on his left. 19And the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab king of Israel into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?’

“One suggested this, and another that. 20Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.’

“ ‘By what means?’ the Lord asked.

21“ ‘I will go and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,’ he said.

“ ‘You will succeed in enticing him,’ said the Lord. ‘Go and do it.’

22“So now the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you.”

23Then Zedekiah son of Kenaanah went up and slapped Micaiah in the face. “Which way did the spirit froma the Lord go when he went from me to speak to you?” he asked.

24Micaiah replied, “You will find out on the day you go to hide in an inner room.”

25The king of Israel then ordered, “Take Micaiah and send him back to Amon the ruler of the city and to Joash the king’s son, 26and say, ‘This is what the king says: Put this fellow in prison and give him nothing but bread and water until I return safely.’ ”

27Micaiah declared, “If you ever return safely, the Lordhas not spoken through me.” Then he added, “Mark my words, all you people!”

Ahab Killed at Ramoth Gilead

28So the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat king of Judah went up to Ramoth Gilead. 29The king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, “I will enter the battle in disguise, but you wear your royal robes.” So the king of Israel disguised himself and went into battle.

30Now the king of Aram had ordered his chariot commanders, “Do not fight with anyone, small or great, except the king of Israel.” 31When the chariot commanders saw Jehoshaphat, they thought, “This is the king of Israel.” So they turned to attack him, but Jehoshaphat cried out, and the Lord helped him. God drew them away from him, 32for when the chariot commanders saw that he was not the king of Israel, they stopped pursuing him.”
 
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Like Christ4Ever has said in essence when we observe the world we think Heavenly The “Eternal” and try not to be “sensual” which is of The Flesh for it is a direct “Command”. Not a option. We have a”LORD over us, many don’t. They may feel as they please. We are in a covenant relationship many are not. So let us, not be deceive by our hearts and our own thoughts but bring ever though into submission. And the only way to option this is through the power of GOD, even prayer, “Let thy will be done and not mines”. Even father or mother, sons or daughters, let thine be done,

Kings David children
Eli’s boys
Samuel boys
Arron’s boys
Gideon’s boys
Pharaoh’s child
How much pain did we also feel when we read about their children. And how we cried when they cried.:pensive:
 
Hekuran said:
Shooting civilians in the back of the head is not best described as a "speck in the eye", is it?
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And the Ukrainians did not do this massacre??
what real forensic independent evidence have you that the Russians did this??

And I am accused of taking sides !!
 
Rev 16:8 And the fourth poured out his bowl upon the sun; and it was given him to scorch men with fire. [nuclear war]
9 And men were scorched with great heat: and they blasphemed the name of the God who hath the power over these plagues; and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth poured out his bowl upon the throne of the beast; and his kingdom became darkened; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 and they blasphemed the God of the heaven for their pains and for their sores; and they repented not of their works.

Everything in this world will burn with fire and the planet will reel and shake like never before -
the only thing that God will save from the destruction of this world are the souls of disciples [the body of Christ].
 
Waggles said:
And the Ukrainians did not do this massacre??
what real forensic independent evidence have you that the Russians did this??

And I am accused of taking sides !!
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There is no evidence who done it. But we do know somebody did not want a independent party investigations to be done. For what ever reason. GOD still is in control and He decides who dies, if we believe He is “Sovereign”. And I have heard many right here on TalkJesus proclaim, that Jesus has received “All POWER in Heaven and on Earth”. That includes who dies and who lives through conflict. And GOD decides who Wars and Who Wars not. If peace is taken away from a nation GOD did it, in a state of judgment. According to The Bible. So let us look and continue to learn in Light of Holy Scripture.

Remember, according to the Book things are supposed to get worse not better. Even among our own household, we are killing one another more than ever in our own homes and schools. Suicides are up too and will continue to grow.:pensive:

We have some terrible days ahead. Jesus has already warn us.

Note: I trust President Putin, more than people in my hold family! I’m scared of these people! From the highly educated to the uneducated ones, when I sleep I keep one eye open. And that is the Truth. I believe The bible.

Dark days ahead.

And we fighting one another over another “Creature”!

For me I do not trust nothing about this world. Not even the world churches built by the hands of a man. And those who occupies the pews that is within their doors. I got history and The Book For a witiness.

These people scare me, I didn’t say; I “Fear” them. They scare me! I fear no man! I fear what I might do to him. In my defense.

No matter if we do right or wrong we will get persecuted. That is part of our calling, Many times Paul has said: for all have forsaken Me and I was left alone. :pensive:

You are not alone, I stand with you.
 
Waggles said:
And the Ukrainians did not do this massacre??
what real forensic independent evidence have you that the Russians did this??

And I am accused of taking sides !!
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Dear Waggles,
I'm answering this because I guess you would say it was I who am your accuser! And to be clear it is your reporting that I'm saying is one sided, that shows a bias. War is always justified by each side, but you are only reporting one side. Normally there is a truth that can be found in war, but the why is normally self-serving, and that is a reality you can bank on.

Think carefully on this question. For the Devil is a liar and the worst ones are the ones we tell to ourselves. :cool: Have you been impartial to both sides in what you have reported? And I mean not to the Governments, but to the people of both Nations and to what is happening to them? You really don't have to answer, because I have a test question to follow! :)

I hate war! It can always be justified. It always has been. A quote attributed to different folks says something about War that rings true to me. "War does not determine who is right or wrong. Just who is left." For it is the innocents, if there are any in this World, that suffer the most. Our brethren who carry the burden of knowing what they must do through these times though it pains them, as it would any of us to do, and that is love those who are not of us and who are doing harm to us and those we love. Can we Agape even during these times?

But to answer your above question...but not the way you would expect or maybe you do expect it! :)
Both sides of the question you posed should have been considered in your reporting, because isn't that what you are doing here or is it something else that we have yet to be told? For clearly people are dying and being displaced from their destroyed homes. Now to test your impartiality, because something tells me that you believe that you are being so. It's a rather simple one. Oh, don't forget what I said earlier. :cool:

Who pray tell is destroying and causing this displacement of people?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><
 
Waggles my friend, “Christ4Ever” is right.

Take a “Sabbatical” from this Thread, just for a time. sat down under a Coconut Tree, and Drink some “Cool Aid” the good kind :eyes: And sit there and watch The Caribbean Waves, and those “Grass Skirts waving on the “Christine white Beaches”. It is called “Therapy”:eyes:

PS. Now I do not know how they come up with that one. They say it work, But one thing I know, it didn’t work for me.

I told my wife, I cannot believe people walk around the beach looking like that, I pointed them out to her too!

Do you see that! she told me to stop pointing, it was not nice. So I put on my Sunglasses :cool:
 
Waggles said:
And the Ukrainians did not do this massacre??
what real forensic independent evidence have you that the Russians did this??

And I am accused of taking sides !!
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The Russian government said the killings were fabricated. That is not true. Human Rights Watch has verified that atrocities took place.

A false flag operation makes sense if a party wants to provoke a conflict. Hitler did it in the Reichstag fire and several other times. Possibly Putin staged terrorist bombings to ignite the Chechen war. But it makes no sense for a nation already under heavy attack to do such a thing.
 
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