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Priests Kidnapped and Civilians Massacred In “Democratic” Ukraine​

Posted by Conrad Franz ● Apr 15th, 2022

What many who were so quick to decorate their social media profiles with blue and gold flags may not realize is that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is the hot culmination of an 8+ year long civil struggle within the Ukraine
that involved heavy fighting akin to what we are seeing now.
Besides just the past atrocities committed against the people of the Donbass region the scale of persecution against Russian language speakers, those not deemed sufficiently loyal to the Zelensky regime, and those who still
worship in the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) has frighteningly increased.

Priests kidnapped and churches closed
 

Priests Kidnapped and Civilians Massacred In “Democratic” Ukraine​

Posted by Conrad Franz ● Apr 15th, 2022

What many who were so quick to decorate their social media profiles with blue and gold flags may not realize is that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is the hot culmination of an 8+ year long civil struggle within the Ukraine
that involved heavy fighting akin to what we are seeing now.
Besides just the past atrocities committed against the people of the Donbass region the scale of persecution against Russian language speakers, those not deemed sufficiently loyal to the Zelensky regime, and those who still
worship in the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) has frighteningly increased.

Priests kidnapped and churches closed
Dear Waggles,
Now that is some biased reporting!
Even a couple of people who commented on the article observed this. While one in reply justified it by pointing out the Western Media 100% bias against Russia! Which still doesn't justify the bias of the article.

Now you added comments above, instead of letting the article speak for itself is what I have a problem with. You're taking a position for Russia and against Ukraine is what taints your comments, and what I have issue with in what you provide as news. In your previous couple of postings, it appeared that you might have decided that just providing the information and allowing the person to come to their own conclusion was sufficient. For which I found commendable, and even liked one even though I could have commented certain disagreements. However, this post shows that you have gone back to the habit of choosing a side and running with it.

Continue in this vein, and this entire thread will be deleted.
You're being warned.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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The content posted is a snippet from the actual news blog itself from Conrad Franz.
 
The content posted is a snippet from the actual news blog itself from Conrad Franz.
We all understand, Waggles, let’s us let the wheat be Separated from The Tares at Harvest Time by the harvesters less the wheat be treated as the tares.

New American Standard Bible
Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and at the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.”

NASB 1977
“But he said, ‘No; lest while you are gathering up the tares, you may root up the wheat with them.

For in times like these, the wheat look like tares, the tares act like wheat. Times are hard. And it is very hard to tell the difference and it is understandable but hard to swallow for both sides are adamant. The just and the unjust. All parties consider our selves doing the right thing. For both sides it is brutal.:expressionless:

For it seems, peace is being taken away from this world by the one riding The Horse and he cannot be stop because he has his orders and he is not a man. Just maybe, for We know it is our future, and it is “Imperative”:expressionless:that it will happen no matter how hard we pray! The horses and The Riders will come. For it is “Indicative” a divine Decree. For The “LORD” cannot Lie:expressionless: on another occasion he said:
 
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12Then the word of the LORD came to me saying, 13“Son of man, if a country sins against Me by committing unfaithfulness, and I stretch out My hand against it, destroy its supply of bread, send famine against it, and cut off from it both man and beast, 14even though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job were in its midst, by their own righteousness they could only deliver themselves,” declares the Lord GOD. 15“If I were to cause wild beasts to pass through the land, and they depopulated it, and it became desolate so that no one would pass through it because of the beasts, 16though these three men were in its midst, as I live,” declares the Lord GOD, “they could not deliver either their sons or their daughters. They alone would be delivered, but the country would be desolate. 17“Or if I should bring a sword on that country and say, ‘Let the sword pass through the country and cut off man and beast from it,’ 18even though these three men were in its midst, as I live,” declares the Lord GOD, “they could not deliver either their sons or their daughters, but they alone would be delivered.19“Or if I should send a plague against that country and pour out My wrath in blood on it, to cut off man and beast from it, 20even though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in its midst, as I live,” declares the Lord GOD, “they could not deliver either their son or their daughter. They would deliver only themselves by their righteousness.” :expressionless:

For many do not have the Righteousness that comes from Christ.
 
The content posted is a snippet from the actual news blog itself from Conrad Franz.
Dear Waggles,
My apologies for having it appear that you were the writer of the comments instead of just providing an extract of the article itself.
Unless of course you actually happen to be Conrad Franz...

Anyway, was the reporting biased or not? For you are taking these peoples word as the Gospel, while in truth it is not. Both sides are wrong, and yet, both sides have proponents of what each side is doing. Yet anyone who were to listen/watch/read what you have posted so far in this thread, could not help but come to the conclusion that you are siding with the Russian perspective, and so approve with what they are doing!

What you are posting should make you stand above/outside of what is going on in the World, for we are on neither side but God's!

"I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. "They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. John 17:15-16 NKJV

This is the latest test of the TJ Broadcasting system...... :cool:

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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Yet anyone who were to listen/watch/read what you have posted so far in this thread, could not help but come to the conclusion that you are siding with the Russian perspective, and so approve with what they are doing!
That is subjective opinion.
My purpose in posting so-called "pro-Russian" news and views was to counteract the very mistaken attitude, even belief, that the Western mainstream narrative is the truth about the why and what of
Russia's invasion into Ukraine. Such as the complete denial of the anti-Russian ultra-nationalist politics and military of western Ukraine that has made war with the Russian speaking eastern Ukraine.
I have posted various videos and web blogs to share with TJ members that all of this is much more complicated in history, cultures, Catholicism versus Eastern Orthodoxy, languages, and global geo-politics.

But far more important I have tried to counter the naïve assumption by many that one side of the conflict are "good people" and on the other side are "evil people."
This is spiritual foolishness as God deems the entire world evil and wicked, except only those that He has called out of the world and walk in the Spirit.
Judgement is coming upon the entire world not just some of it.

The other aspect about this war in the Ukraine is how quickly Washington and the West are making it an international project in forcing nations to take their side or suffer sanctions.
China has declared that she will invade Taiwan despite America's protests. Another major war: what will that do to supply chains and inflation?
We can also see the divisions and alliances between nations taking form, which would be a precursor to the eventual gathering of all nations to Armageddon.

PS: keep an eye on Israel and Iran (including Hezbollah, Hamas, and Syria).
 
I've not contributed to this thread because I don't agree with 3/4 of the posts; the proponents seem pretty blinkered and intractable. I see invaders' atrocities such as missile attacks on crowded public places, executions and rapes explained away as either fake news or blamed upon Ukrainian Government forces to discredit the invaders. Pretty much adopting the Putin line without question or doubt.

I don't even agree with the title of this thread, there's nothing hot about what's going on in Ukraine. I've said in a previous thread that Putin is a prototype Antichrist and if you see videos of Mariopol you'll ask yourself, will the aftermath of Armageddon be much worse?

Instead I want to focus upon the plight of the church in Ukraine. Our brothers and sisters murdered, their homes flattened, livelihoods evaporated, total devastion. The church is splitting because of it.
BBC News - 'I'm shocked by my church leaders in Moscow' - priest in Ukraine

There are no winners in this war. How can born again believers seek to justify it? Read Jesus's beatitudes in Matthew 5 -
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God. Matthew 5:9 NKJV

I do pray that the moderators close this thread, it brings shame upon the Church.
 
I can imagine how you feel about The Old Testament Writings and Prophesy that are recorded concerning The “Day of The LORD”. And The Wrath of The SON of God coming upon This World. And surely The Great White Throne Judgment will not be unto your liking and will most likely cause you much distress, it do makes a person wonder if GOD is An evil Being condemning people with such pain and destruction since He is “Sovereign” and Christ has all power in heaven and on Earth and for he has the keys of death and GOD desires who lives or dies! And since he will send a creature to take the peace from the earth and cause mankind to kill one another.

Like The learned “Atheist” has proclaim after reading and studying the whole bible, Christian’s must have not read this Book” who could a serve a violent GOD that destroys his own people like this. And call them vulgar words as he has.

I do understand, since no one can starve or die unless The “GOD ALMIGHTY”gives permission. [which many Christian’s have no Idea what that term means]

Example:
“Why Call Be, LORD LORD…ff.

Most Christian’s by their own words do not believe “JESUS is LORD” They DONT !
And They will Fight you Viciously claiming they do! :eyes:

But they have a talent of claiming him lord in words.

Note: when some look at “Ukraine””GOD has Disappeared, and we must compell him to move. Like He is waiting on us. if we don’t pray he is going to be idle and waiting on us. Now do not get me wrong that does not mean we ought not to pray, we are commanded to do so.:eyes::eyes:

But “GOD” has made it plain.

“I will have Mercy on who I will have Mercy on” You just do what I told you to do! And let me worry about the Mercy stuff! And don’t you forget, That mercy I told you to have:eyes:

And who you are to give mercy too?

Examples:
Your husband that slap you so hard you saw bright lights, and you went in and wash those dishes, like he told you to do. And then he told you to put on that pretty night gown he bought for you last month. “Grace” loving kindness when not deserving “something good”. That only you can provide, “Shaken and press down and running over”

Putin now, yes Putin is his name, the one don’t need kindness, I want you to show him some Love and kindness in words and deeds. Although he doesn’t deserve it. “Love covers a multides of Faults”!

Are you with me? Yesterday many said: “He that is without Sin cast The 1st Stone”
:eyes: you didn’t forget that.

“Be careful how you judge, it shall be measure also unto you according how you judge”

“What is good for the goose is also good for the gander”:eyes:

Now I know many are not Cherry pickers. It can be a thin line between right and wrong.

Like “Christ4Ever” has said: we do not pick sides. We are neutral, and we cannot put our feelings in the way.

“And we can do all things through Christ Jesus who strengthens us”

For many did react like that in the Old Testament and GOD gave them a command. Dry up those tears Arron, and Jeremiah you better not pray for those people and I mean it!

I whole lot people skip a lot of places in The OT, many of us are guilty:eyes:

“no body is guilty and nobody wants their sins Pointed out or written in The Dirt by
The Finger of GOD:eyes:

“MEME MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN” :eyes:
 
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There is a report that Putin is dying of cancer. I don't know if that is true, but if it is it might explain why he is iacting different. If Putin is dying then he has little time to make a name for himself.
 
There is a report that Putin is dying of cancer. I don't know if that is true, but if it is it might explain why he is iacting different. If Putin is dying then he has little time to make a name for himself.
We must also take notice, This has been declared a “Propaganda War” as well and we must continue to remind our sleeves of this. it has been declared that upon The east and west. Words are important, and government leaders knows that the common are not familiar with certain terminology. And they use this for the
Their advantage at the proper time.
 
That is subjective opinion.
My purpose in posting so-called "pro-Russian" news and views was to counteract the very mistaken attitude, even belief, that the Western mainstream narrative is the truth about the why and what of
Russia's invasion into Ukraine. Such as the complete denial of the anti-Russian ultra-nationalist politics and military of western Ukraine that has made war with the Russian speaking eastern Ukraine.
I have posted various videos and web blogs to share with TJ members that all of this is much more complicated in history, cultures, Catholicism versus Eastern Orthodoxy, languages, and global geo-politics.

But far more important I have tried to counter the naïve assumption by many that one side of the conflict are "good people" and on the other side are "evil people."
This is spiritual foolishness as God deems the entire world evil and wicked, except only those that He has called out of the world and walk in the Spirit.
Judgement is coming upon the entire world not just some of it.

The other aspect about this war in the Ukraine is how quickly Washington and the West are making it an international project in forcing nations to take their side or suffer sanctions.
China has declared that she will invade Taiwan despite America's protests. Another major war: what will that do to supply chains and inflation?
We can also see the divisions and alliances between nations taking form, which would be a precursor to the eventual gathering of all nations to Armageddon.

PS: keep an eye on Israel and Iran (including Hezbollah, Hamas, and Syria).
Dear Waggles,
It appears you have missed the point. Is this one of the "pro-Russian" news outlets? Are we seeking to promote the war? Anathema!
However, as a member has just posted, what we here do seek compassion and prayers for are those who are suffering regardless of which side they happen to be on.

You say that you have tried to counter the naive assumption by many that one side of the conflict are "good people" and the other side are "evil people." (who are these many by the way).
Well, as I said before, what you have done whether intended or not is chosen a side yourself. Again Anathema! If you are a believer in Christ Jesus, then you know both are guilty, or I should say all are guilty and have fallen short of the Glory of God, and unless you believe that God is standing with one and not another, as He previously did on the side of the Nation of Israeli in the OT; you as I've said more than once, have chosen a side to believe is justified. So, are you saying that God is guiding the Russians against Ukrainians? And I don't mean anything about prophecy being fulfilled either, because Prophecy doesn't take sides as you are doing, it just tells you what it is going to happen, which is what I'm suggesting you do. Instead you are assuming that the membership here are blinded as Westerners, and you alone are the purveyor of the truth from Down Under.

Post items suggesting as you have in your last paragraph of how sides are being drawn, and who they are siding with, and you will find a more receptive audience. Showing the geo-political shenanigans of both sides and how they are able to influence other nations to help them would go far in being someone above and not part of what is transpiring. Just don't make it all about the West, and nothing about the East. Meaning show both sides of the coin if you are able! I say if you are able, because unlike the west that allows you to promote whatever you like, the East doesn't take kindly to it, and that type of news originating there is harder to come by unless it happens to be state driven media. Which of course is the same "now" in the Ukraine.

I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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P.S. It might be helpful if you were to add in some of your postings that prayer for all should be done.
 
That is subjective opinion.
My purpose in posting so-called "pro-Russian" news and views was to counteract the very mistaken attitude, even belief, that the Western mainstream narrative is the truth about the why and what of
Russia's invasion into Ukraine. Such as the complete denial of the anti-Russian ultra-nationalist politics and military of western Ukraine that has made war with the Russian speaking eastern Ukraine.
I have posted various videos and web blogs to share with TJ members that all of this is much more complicated in history, cultures, Catholicism versus Eastern Orthodoxy, languages, and global geo-politics.

But far more important I have tried to counter the naïve assumption by many that one side of the conflict are "good people" and on the other side are "evil people."
This is spiritual foolishness as God deems the entire world evil and wicked, except only those that He has called out of the world and walk in the Spirit.
Judgement is coming upon the entire world not just some of it.

The other aspect about this war in the Ukraine is how quickly Washington and the West are making it an international project in forcing nations to take their side or suffer sanctions.
China has declared that she will invade Taiwan despite America's protests. Another major war: what will that do to supply chains and inflation?
We can also see the divisions and alliances between nations taking form, which would be a precursor to the eventual gathering of all nations to Armageddon.

PS: keep an eye on Israel and Iran (including Hezbollah, Hamas, and Syria).
So true, and a lot is happening. Across the world. World wide catastrophes. Our governments do not want us to know about. It would be great if you could bring the light to these events too if possible.

We sure would appreciate it. Since no one has taken the task, we do have brother and sisters in Christ suffering all over this world in great numbers that the main media cares nothing for and will not give coverage.
 
Matthew 24:3 And as he was sitting on the mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, Tell us when these things shall be? and what the sign of thy presence and consummation of the age?
4 And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no one lead you astray.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars; see ye be not troubled: for it must come to pass; but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and famines shall be and earthquakes in diverse places.
8 But all these are the beginning of travails.
 
Luke 21:7 And they asked him, saying, Teacher, when therefore shall these be? and what shall be the sign when these are about to come to pass?
8 And he said, See ye be not led astray: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am he; and, The season is near; go ye not after them.
9 And when ye shall hear of wars and tumults, be not terrified: for these must needs come to pass first; but the end is not immediately.
10 Then said he to them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;
11 and great earthquakes shall be, and in diverse places famines and pestilences; and terrors shall be and great signs from heaven.
 
Nah. It's not part of the current agenda.
Abortion and mid-terms....so hot right now.
 
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