Mohammed and His Religion

[Chad]

Amen fellowservant. Cognitive, please check your your belief. This is Talk Jesus where we preach only the Holy Bible and nothing else. If that offends you then your in the wrong place. The fact that your all these religions speaks volumes of your beliefs and lack of biblical knowledge, not to mention respect of GOD's Word

Don't speak for sake of speaking. Its good to be silent sometimes as the Bible teaches us.

Ecclesiastes 3:7
a time to tear, and a time to sew;a time to keep silence, and a time to speak

They all contain Jesus

Yes, the name but only the Holy Bible TRULY contains the Savior Jesus Christ. Everything else is garbage talk.

Don't attempt to rebuke others when your not in the Word yourself, brother. That is not Christ like whatsoever.

Matthew 7:4
Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?

Everyone on Talk Jesus does get a chance to speak but our member 4jesus has crossed the line numerous
times and no, you do not see that. Discipline is a commandment along with loving each other, isn't it? Yes for sure.

 

[Cognitive]

What I meant was that all the religions are an earthly group of people, who change certain parts of it to suit themselves.

The seed of many of them is JESUS.

By claiming I was part of them all, I meant that I wouldnt judge a man because of the religion he was held in, from choice or sometimes from birth. I would look at his heart. If he is a muslim hes my brother. We are all from Adam, so we are brothers regardless.

Whether a man has been blinded by satan to become muslim etc. Then I dont think we should blame the man. I pity those who have got close to JESUS through these religions. Yet the lies contained in these false gospels lead them astray.

Didnt GOD make each man? Does he still love them? When I study my bible JESUS teaches me something deeper than religion, religion is man made.

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

You say I lack knowledge of the word of GOD because I am a part of all these religions. I dont confess to be a part of thier customs or thier lies, only as in brothers and sisters.

I am part of the same religion as JESUS himself, what religion was that?

 

[Chad]

Jesus was not part of a religion. Your words even contradict your own statement

When I study my bible JESUS teaches me something deeper than religion, religion is man made.

I am part of the same religion as JESUS himself, what religion was that?

Then how is Jesus part of a religion if religion is man made? It is true religion is man made, therefore Jesus is not part of a religion.

Anyway, to get back on the thread topic, everything outside Scripture is false as we know it. To continue debating about how to approach muslims is fruitless because after all the Holy Spirit is the one working in you so we are not to interfere with Him but to submit to Him alone. That my friend is the greatest commandment. Love GOD first.

 

[Cognitive]

Yes its true Jesus wasnt a part of any religion. He went deeper than that, almost as if he was a part of all religions. Obviously my quote was a bit weird, hope you know what I meant now. I dont think he saw different religions, he only saw the man inside.

We should approach muslims as no different to any man.

The quran wont get you into heaven. Neither will being a muslim.

No religion will show you the way. I study Jesus and he never once told me that christianty, jehovas witnesses, roman catholics, muslims etc. can show me the way. When I mention it to any of those religions, that I want no part in them, they seem offended.

He is the way. The only way. So lets forget about these false gospels, and keep our thoughts in JESUS.

 

[jiggyfly]

The Greatest Commandment?
"To Love one another"
We have to remember that the eyes of all different religions have been tainted somewhat by men.
They all contain Jesus.
Even thinking about Mohammed is pointless. Nevermind discussing and falling out. That would not be Christlike at all. Satan has stirred up you brothers, who on other threads have been united as one. Dont let him.
I am Muslim, Hindu, Catholic and a Christian, if that offends you then you put religion before Christ.
I would treat each as my brother and sister.
God Bless.

Cognitive my brothers and sisters are those who hear the word of God and do it. If you are a muslim than you are NOT a christ follower. Jesus said in Matthew 6 that you can not serve two masters. You can not be a friend to everone or everyone you meet. If you are a friend to the world than you are an enemy to God and me.

All religions do not contain Jesus, and none of them are an expression of the Christ. Some even knowingly worship satan, are you part of that cult too? I think you need to reread and reconsidder your posts and you may want to edit them.

 

[Cognitive]

Jiggyfly I am not a part of any earthly religion. I follow only Christ.

You should pray on the meaning of this verse.

Mathew 5:43

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Also please ask JESUS what he means by "Love your neighbour"

Corinthians 13

If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 1but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

 

[Coconut]

Cognitive, if you follow only Christ, what do you do with this scripture, which is also His word?

2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

 

[Fellowservant]

Quote Cognitive

Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

End quote


Amen to that, as we see love rejoices with the truth, it does not rejoice with evil nor does it have any part in it. The love only doctrine without rebuke is not the correct doctrine according to Christ. Christ said it himself in the book of revelation that he rebukes the ones he loves to bring about repentance if possible. Paul told Timothy and Titus to do the same. Christ also said he hated the deeds of the Nicolaitans, and so did the Church (Revelation 2:6) . And this is the Church, remember that judement begins with us, not the world. The bible or word of God has two sides to it.




Rev 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

Luk 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.


Tit 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Tit 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Tit 1:12 One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Tit 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;


2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.


1Ti 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.


Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


The above scriptures are for us also, or teachers of the word, but this must be done in love, with all longsuffering and doctrine. The biggest problem we have today is when we do rebuke, the saint that is being reproved flies off the handle with pride, and says who do you think you are. So we must be patient and let God move on them, or maybe they were not real saints to begin with, its hard to know for sure online.

Thats why i like to let them alone till they cross the line and show thier true collors. Even then its hard to tell because not all have the same knowledge, some also have a zeal for God but its without knowledge. They are babes of the word, and some as babes, are trying to teach the word, this is not the correct way, you can't be a novice and teach the word, you will end up in a whole lot of trouble. A novice in the word should be asking questions, not answering them. Im not talking about the basics of doctrine in the word, its ok for a novice to teach basic scriptures, try to be carefull i quess, and be patient.

The sin of pride will not let us be wrong, the sin of pride won't humble its self, the sin of pride will destroy many a good saint, the sin of pride must be dealth with before it takes root, the sin of pride is one of the worst sins in the Church...


1Ti 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.


God bless

 

[Cognitive]

Thank you for your kind words Fellowservant as you try to sharpen a brother in the faith.
You truly are close to Christ and have an understanding of the importance of love. Without it we are nothing but a pharisee, an enemy of Christ. Speaking scripture, without love, is worthless.

I still with my study and bible have total love towards all men, regardless of their religion, I believe that Christ wants me to be this way. Some men may see a muslim, I see a brother caught in satans trap. I have love for him. If its satan telling me to love all men then I am sure it wont last long. I will pray to be shown the way. Thank you.


Cocunut.

The scripture to me means that you cannot be on both sides. Its either one or the other. It says that Christ has no wickedness in him, satan has no love in him. Those who believe in Christ should be free from evil also. Christ and satan have nothing in common neither should thier believers.

God Bless.

 

[jiggyfly]

Jiggyfly I am not a part of any earthly religion. I follow only Christ.
You should pray on the meaning of this verse.
Mathew 5:43
"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Also please ask JESUS what he means by "Love your neighbour"
Corinthians 13
If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 1but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Cognitive, I suggest again reread your posts in this thread. it appears that you are confused, some of your statements are contradicting. Before I respond to you on the above post I wanted to give you an opertunity to correct yourself and your posts.

 

[Cognitive]

I think you may mean my saying I was a part of each religion. I dont think I can explain, I am confused now, times like these the forums can be frustrating and I wish we could all meet in a room face to face, would be very cool. I really think we should leave it now, but if you insist I will try to explain once more.

It would be impossible to be a part of each one as they oppose each other.
Sometimes men will keep on and on until you let them know which religion you belong to, I say none I only follow Christ. They say then you are a christian, I reply no, because Jesus never told me to become a christian.

So because I believe that Christ wants us to love all men, regardless of thier earthly religion, I would reply I was a part of every religion. I know it doesnt mean what it says, I'm sorry if it angered you somewhat. I didnt mean to. I meant it in a way that quran being a false teaching, that it wasnt real. So a man cannot worship something that isnt real.

I dont worship any other GOD, or read any other book. I am JESUS all the way, and follow him with all my heart.

I am confused now I agree, but thats why we are here, to sharpen each other.

Like Jews, samaritans, gentiles etc. Jesus never saw them as thier "earthly name" He saw them all as brothers, I was trying to do the same. I didnt want to see you brothers fall apart because of these earthly religions, that to me, do not exist.

He saw through the earthly stuff into a mans heart, I would give a muslim the same chance as any man. If he got on his knees and asked in Jesus name to be saved, I dont think he would hold the holy spirit from him. I would help a muslim if he needed food or drink or shelter, because I love him. I believe Jesus would do the same. Just because they follow a false gospel doesnt take my love away.

Love overcomes religion.

I think the more I type, the more confused I get. Hope it helps.

God Bless.

 

[Nigh]

...I think the more I type, the more confused I get...

lol I know the feeling. It reminds me of Proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

Let me ask you this for clarification...
Does this apply to you?
One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

It applies to me! That was taken from the dictionary under "Christian" the noun.
So if someone asks me if I am a Christian I would say yes, in so far as I try to live according to the teachings of Jesus, and profess Jesus as Christ.

I don't think that you'd say "no" to that, however I do see your reluctance to label yourself under a religion as wise. Religion is a clay in the hands of men, and has been molded into something resembling that ashtray I made my in 6th grade for mothers day. (she didn't smoke either) But considering the definition of "Christian" in the dictionary, I think you may want to reconsider your answer. At the very least, before you answer them, ask them what do they mean by "Christian"? Make sure that their definition meats yours.

You are a follower of Christ. That makes you a Christian.
{Taken from www.dictionary.com}
Christian: the name given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to the followers
of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch. The names by which the disciples were
known among themselves were "brethren," "the faithful," "elect," "saints,"
"believers." But as distinguishing them from the multitude without, the name
"Christian" came into use, and was universally accepted. This name occurs but
three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26; 26:28; 1 Pet. 4:16).

1 Pet. 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
Acts 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian
(Here you see Paul was trying to persuade Agrippa to become a Christian.)

You could say that you are a "believer", but then they would ask, "a believer in what". When you profess Jesus, they will say you are a "Christian" to separate you from a believer in Buddha, or Mohammad. Other religions have "faithful" and "elect", as well as those who could be called "saints", to discuss those that believe in Jesus as Christ, the Romans named them "Christians". My brother, it is not wrong to call yourself a Christian, it is a blessing.

I am Muslim, Hindu, Catholic and a Christian, if that offends you then you put religion before Christ.

If you profess Jesus is the Christ, the only begotten Son of God, then you can not say you are Muslim, or Hindu. Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet only. (like Moses, and NOT as great as Mohammad) I don't believe Hindu's recognize Jesus at all, not 100% sure though. So you can't be someone who believes Jesus was the Son of God and our Savior, and the Alpha and Omega, while at the same time believe that Mohammad came after the Omega and is greater than Jesus. It is impossible.

To say that you "ARE" Muslim, Hindu, Catholic or Christian, is to say they you believe what they believe, adhere to their articles of faith and submit to the authority of their writings and teachings. Since these things in those religions contradict each other, you can not follow all those religions

. Now, you can however consider them your brothers as it is true we are all created by the Heavenly Father, and loved by him the same. But as a brother, whom loves you, I would want for you to spend eternity with God in heaven, and not in hell with the Devil and his followers. Therefor I'm going to tell you IN love, that you are wrong to believe in Mohammad, and Buddha, or any other way than Jesus. I'm going to tell you IN love, but that is not always seen as WITH love. And in that, I may just offend. For some it is to plant and water, for some it is to pick the fruit, and for another it is to make orange juice.


Go with Jesus,
Nigh

 

[KJV]

When I wittness to Muslims I normally ask them how they became a Muslim and then give them my tetimony of how I became a Christian.

I used to get in the various debates with them but I found them unprofitable, although it is still good to be able to respond to questions when asked. Since encountering evangelical Christianity in the 1800s Islam has developed a system of anti-Christian apologetics.

Many Muslims will know the arguments without ever having met a true Christian or been challenged that what they think is true is false.

They place high weight on knowledge and scholarship and I think it is worth Christians reading up on Isalm and maybe reading the Quran, which is shorter than the NT.

 

[Fellowservant]

I agree with the brothers here, i see where your coming from brother Cognitive. But we will confuse people when we say we are not Christian, Muslim or not, that is what the saints were called after the gospel went forth. So its best to tell men Muslim or not, that you are a Christian, or they will be confused if you dont. Men need to know where you stand if they are going to follow you, or hear your testamony. When you say you are a Christian to any man they immediatly affiliate you with Christ, so this is good not bad, and you can be sure the confusion will be gone when you do. As far a brothers go, the Sons of God are brothers, they are lead by the spirit. The lord knows them that are his if anyman is in Christ he is a new creature, if not he is not of Christ, he is not your brother because he is not born of God. A man must be born of God to be your brother. As it is in the norm so it is in the Kingdom of God.


Mat 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
Mat 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


Christ was talking about his own mother here, this needs to be understood. there will be many a professing saint, who Christ will say i know you not, let alone Muslims or any other professing religions. And if he doesn't know them, they are deffinatly not his brothers and sisters. We can love others but not beyond what is written, Christ said if anyman loves his own family more than me, he is not worthy of me Matthew 10:37, strong statement but true.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.



1Jo 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.


Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.


Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.


Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

1Pe 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.


I hope this helps brother, because its Gods word not mine...

God bless brother

 

[Fellowservant]

And don't get me wrong brother im not telling you to hate Muslims, we are commanded to love our neighbour, just dont go beyond whats written, by calling them brothers.

God bless

 

[Chad]

I dont worship any other GOD, or read any other book. I am JESUS all the way, and follow him with all my heart.

I am confused now I agree, but thats why we are here, to sharpen each other.

Love overcomes religion.

I think the more I type, the more confused I get. Hope it helps.

God Bless.

Amen brother. Iron sharpens iron and yes, sometimes we all get confused when we type. That is why I quoted Scripture about a time for silence. I didn't mean it in an offending or sarcastic way. I just felt you may have gotten a bit mixed up per se. I have done so myself in the past, no questions asked.

God bless. Let's sharpen each other as One body of Christ.

 

[Cognitive]

Fellowservant I totally understand how you mean it, Thank you. Now lets leave that false gospel behind and talk about Jesus and christianity.

Nigh I will answer your question if the label christianty applies to me, the answer is no I do not follow a religion that is based on christ, I follow christ himself.

I read through your post about the christian parts 3 times and this is how i feel.

First of all, if it was of importance to be labeled a christian I believe that Jesus himself would of mentioned it in at least one of his sermons. To my knowledge he never does. I can remember being surprised at this, as I too thought a christian was a follower of christ.

Also I noticed in GODs word which you quoted that when he said "are you trying to pursaude me to be a Christian? The person using the label doesnt believe in christ. Its not Paul himself who says he is a christian, its Agrippa.

I am new to the word, around 4 years now I am still excited at times so understand I may get carried away. I'm not saying I am right or wrong, I believe I am on a learning curve, this is how I read my bible as of now. I am addicted to the new testament, my knowledge of it is still poor, as for the OT I rarely read it. I have a lot to learn, and I look forward to it each day. I feel very strongly about being labelled a christian, as I know so many bad people with that label. I dont want to be a part of anything that contains so many hypocrytes.

When I went into a christian church I saw around 120 people in there. They all began to pray. Jesus taught me to pray alone, in private to GOD, not in front of men. Then he will reward me. Jesus prayed alone. They were saying all kinds of prayers. Jesus taught me to repeat his prayer, for he already knew what I needed before I asked, the reason why Jesus wanted all his followers to pray the same prayer, in private was because it was for every being on the earth. Its the perfect prayer, all others are man made. There is numerous things in his sermon on the mount that christians who I know do not follow.

This is what I follow because I put my whole heart, mind and soul into Jesus sermons, I feel its leading me on the right path.

I just want to follow christ, not christianity. Like the dictionary has a definition of a christian, its not GODs word, the dictionary is a book for people of this world. To me Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Christianity is a man made religion along with all the others.

It feels so clear in my mind, Like it will never change, if its the devil and his pride trying to take me away from the word and see it incorrectly, then please help me to see it.

As you here at talk Jesus are the only brothers and sisters in Christ I have.

May love and peace be with you.

Edit was to add names as i sort of answered fellowservant and nigh together.

 

[Cognitive]

Thank you Chad for understanding.

 

[joyfulservant]

i hope Isaiah 44 will speak to those who think that all other religions are alright and good and should be supported and tolerated.
The Lord, not Idols
The LORD, Not Idols
6 "This is what the LORD says—

Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.

7 Who then is like me? Let them proclaim it.
Let them declare and lay out before me
what has happened since I established my ancient people,
and what is yet to come—
yes, let them foretell what will come.

8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid.
Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago?
You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me?
No, there is no other Rock; I know not one."

9 All who make idols are nothing,
and the things they treasure are worthless.
Those who would speak up for them are blind;
they are ignorant, to their own shame.

10 Who shapes a god and casts an idol,
which can profit nothing?

11 People like that will be put to shame;
skilled workers are only human beings.
Let them all come together and take their stand;
they will be brought down to terror and shame.

12 The blacksmith takes a tool
and works with it in the coals;
he shapes an idol with hammers,
he forges it with the might of his arm.
He gets hungry and loses his strength;
he drinks no water and grows faint.

13 The carpenter measures with a line
and makes an outline with a marker;
he roughs it out with chisels
and marks it with compasses.
He shapes it in human form,
human form in all its glory,
that it may dwell in a shrine.

14 He cut down cedars,
or perhaps took a cypress or oak.
He let it grow among the trees of the forest,
or planted a pine, and the rain made it grow.

15 It is used as fuel for burning;
some of it he takes and warms himself,
he kindles a fire and bakes bread.
But he also fashions a god and worships it;
he makes an idol and bows down to it.

16 Half of the wood he burns in the fire;
over it he prepares his meal,
he roasts his meat and eats his fill.
He also warms himself and says,
"Ah! I am warm; I see the fire."

17 From the rest he makes a god, his idol;
he bows down to it and worships.
He prays to it and says,
"Save me! You are my god!"

18 They know nothing, they understand nothing;
their eyes are plastered over so they cannot see,
and their minds closed so they cannot understand.

19 No one stops to think,
no one has the knowledge or understanding to say,
"Half of it I used for fuel;
I even baked bread over its coals,
I roasted meat and I ate.
Shall I make a detestable thing from what is left?
Shall I bow down to a block of wood?"

20 Such people feed on ashes, a deluded heart misleads them;
they cannot save themselves, or say,
"Is not this thing in my right hand a lie?"

Isaiah 46

Some pour out gold from their bags
and weigh out silver on the scales;
they hire a goldsmith to make it into a god,
and they bow down and worship it.

7 They lift it to their shoulders and carry it;
they set it up in its place, and there it stands.
From that spot it cannot move.
Though people cry out to it, it does not answer;
it cannot save them from their troubles.

8 "Remember this, keep it in mind,
take it to heart, you rebels.

9 Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me.

10 I make known the end from the beginning,
from ancient times, what is still to come.
I say, 'My purpose will stand,
and I will do all that I please.'

11 From the east I summon a bird of prey;
from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose.
What I have said, that I will bring about;
what I have planned, that I will do.

12 Listen to me, you stubborn-hearted,
you who are now far from my righteousness



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So, to clarify for everyone else here at TalkJesus...
Cognitive is a Chrisitan...

I follow Christ himself...
...I just want to follow Christ, not Christianity.

He is hung up on the impression that the world gets from the word "Christianity", because of the behavior of some people who have called themselves Christians. He doesn't want to be grouped with the likes of the KKK, Aryans, or Jim Jones, who quote from the Bible, and call themselves "Christians". (I can't blame him either)
However, understand that he claims to be a follower of Jesus, and therefore is a Christan by the proper definition of it. The KKK, Aryans, Jim Jones and a multitude of others who use the title, on the other hand, are NOT Christians.

I think we can move on from this now. As a Christian (follower of Christ), we are given the Holy Spirit, and the promise that He will never forsake us or leave us. As long as we all agree that Jesus is alive and in us, we are all brothers. Glory to God!

God bless,
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