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Originally Posted by kyval82
I understand striving to be perfect, but do we really have to be perfect, sinnless and without blemish to go to heaven?
"Perfect" is one of those words for which the definition depends on the context. In modern English language usage it means flawless or without defect. In the Biblical context your pastor is using, however, it means mature.
I suggest you get a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible and look up the Hebrew/Greek language sources for clarification of confusing words.
SLE
No, to be sinless and without blemish is impossible in this life1 Corinthians 13
1 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Paul talked about his sin in Romans 7 But tells us there is no condemnation for those in Christ in Romans 8 and above he tells us of not until we die does the imperfection leave and the perfection come. To Look at God face to face and know him as well as he knows us takes perfection and that does not happen until we finally come into the presences of God and he glorifies us!!!!
Originally Posted by kyval82
I understand striving to be perfect, but do we really have to be perfect, sinnless and without blemish to go to heaven?
"Perfect" is one of those words for which the definition depends on the context. In modern English language usage it means flawless or without defect. In the Biblical context your pastor is using, however, it means mature.
I suggest you get a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible and look up the Hebrew/Greek language sources for clarification of confusing words.
SLE
No, to be sinless and without blemish is impossible in this life1 Corinthians 13
1 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Paul talked about his sin in Romans 7 But tells us there is no condemnation for those in Christ in Romans 8 and above he tells us of not until we die does the imperfection leave and the perfection come. To Look at God face to face and know him as well as he knows us takes perfection and that does not happen until we finally come into the presences of God and he glorifies us!!!!