Must A Christain Be Perfect To Enter Into Heaven?

[soberxp]

道虽迩，不行不至；事虽小，不为不成。------------------------<<荀子>>

 

[The Robster]

Couldn't have said it better myself!

You know what brother I missed the point you were trying to make and I'm sorry and I ask for your forgiveness. I understand now what you were trying to get me to see and I just wasn't seeing it. :embarasse

-Rob-

 

[soberxp]

I still sin, but I rest easy knowing that every sin is forgiven. And that when I ask the Lord for forgiveness it is done and He FORGETS them. I'm not over 2000 years old. Everyone of the sins of my life, past, present and future were yet future when Jesus died on the Cross and took my sins. Are you over 2000 years old? Why do Christians have such difficulty wrapping their minds around this biblical fact? Why are so many Christians sin conscious rather than being conscious of being God's righteousness and wearing the robe of righteousness all day long and being conscious that Jesus' blood cleansed you of every sin of your life? Christians spend way too much time being sin conscious as opposed to being conscious of what being a new creation is all about. We are the righteousness of God on this planet. Our debt is settled with God. The enemy will never stop trying to tempt us to sin. And if you do, just ask for forgiveness and be done with it instead of trying to be self righteous and find ways to punish yourself and to wallow in self pity because you committed a sin.

U didn't reach the righteousness of God yet

 

[sunshineaaks]

You know what brother I missed the point you were trying to make and I'm sorry and I ask for your forgiveness. I understand now what you were trying to get me to see and I just wasn't seeing it. :embarasse

-Rob-

Ah Robster, you're forgiven

 

[sunshineaaks]

all wisdom good or bad.......:shade: cool
being pedantic I'm super than yours.
being your watchman..........I have told you the truth:"but you have been warned depend on what you have said."
you should read all of my posts.

Being obscure and believing one is superior or a watchmen to others is only an opinion (narcissistic though it may be) but not based on truth or fact.

Why would I want to read more when I try to get understanding from the few and there is no reciprocation or answered questions.

 

[DeiSponsa]

Hello.

I am a christain, I have been about two years now, so I am still quite a young christain. I am of pentecostal faith, and where I go to church, Our preacher has many sermons on christains needing to be perfect to go to heaven.. Usually it is said like, a christain cannot have a spot or blemish to enter into heaven, we must remain without sin, if we do sin, it must be forgiven.

I understand striving to be perfect, but do we really have to be perfect, sinnless and without blemish to go to heaven?

What does the bible say??/

Thank you all and God Bless

The beauty of the gift Christ gave us is salvation in the face of our imperfections. God knows that we will stumble and make mistakes, and honestly, I don't personally believe perfection exists, but I believe we should still strive for it.

These are just some verses that help clarify it to me:

"For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 it is not of works, so that no one can boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)

"He saved us, not by works of righteousness that we have done but on the basis of his mercy, through the washing of the new birth and the renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us in full measure through Jesus Christ our Savior. 7 And so, since we have been justified by his grace, we become heirs with the confident expectation of eternal life." (Titus 3:5-7)

"But God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8)

"Because Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, to bring you to God, by being put to death in the flesh but by being made alive in the spirit." (1 Peter 3:18)

We will never obtain perfection on our own. It's not possible. As believers, we are saved from our own imperfections because of the mercy of God and the sacrifice Christ made.

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Yes, it is not that we don't look at our sin, we do but, God has told us he doesn't!!!

What a marvelous God that has come up with a plan that takes our salvation completely out of our hands, that way we can't boast or complain! And, since we are not required to do anything but recieve this Grace, God calls it a gift and if it is a git , it is free!!!

What did Jesus say, " and the truth will set you free!!

God have mercy on us, Amen!!

Yup. If God does not see our sin why do we? We too often, are sin conscious instead of being righteousness conscious.

We are the righteousness of God!! In Christ. That which is not righteousness is sin. We cannot be both righteousness and unrighteousness Walk in that righteousness. Walk in Love and you will NEVER sin. You've been made perfect. Be perfect then.

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[El Hombre viejo]

道虽迩，不行不至；事虽小，不为不成。------------------------<<荀子>>

上帝保佑你，我的好朋友走在这祝福。

 

[El Hombre viejo]

The beauty of the gift Christ gave us is salvation in the face of our imperfections. God knows that we will stumble and make mistakes, and honestly, I don't personally believe perfection exists, but I believe we should still strive for it.

These are just some verses that help clarify it to me:

"For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 it is not of works, so that no one can boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)

"He saved us, not by works of righteousness that we have done but on the basis of his mercy, through the washing of the new birth and the renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us in full measure through Jesus Christ our Savior. 7 And so, since we have been justified by his grace, we become heirs with the confident expectation of eternal life." (Titus 3:5-7)

"But God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8)

"Because Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, to bring you to God, by being put to death in the flesh but by being made alive in the spirit." (1 Peter 3:18)

We will never obtain perfection on our own. It's not possible. As believers, we are saved from our own imperfections because of the mercy of God and the sacrifice Christ made.

You say we cannot be perfect?!! Are you saying that God wants us to be something impossible? Then you don't know do you? What is perfect? Again! We cannot look at modern definitions. We have to look at the meaning of the time of the writing.

Perfect. in this case Greek meaning
1) brought to its end, finished
2) wanting nothing necessary to completeness
3) perfect
4) that which is perfect
a) consummate human integrity and virtue
b) of men
1) full grown, adult, of full age, mature


Not impossible at all. So then....how do we become perfect? Get into the Word. Stay there. Get to know Jesus. Get to know the Father who is our Source. He will do the doing! All you have to do is Abide in Love.

There is nothing complicated about our life in Him. Just trust and obey as the song says. :wink:

 

[RJ]

Yup. If God does not see our sin why do we? We too often, are sin conscious instead of being righteousness conscious.

We are the righteousness of God!! In Christ. That which is not righteousness is sin. We cannot be both righteousness and unrighteousness Walk in that righteousness. Walk in Love and you will NEVER sin. You've been made perfect. Be perfect then.

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Old Man, you are living in denial, if you think that your are still not sinful. There are no scriptural verse that you can twist to support us being sin free.
God didn't say that we would no longer sin, He said that he would not count them against us.
Romans 4:
8 Blessed is the one
whose sin the Lord will never count against them.

Romans 6:11
11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Our sin died on the cross, it didn't leave us or simply go away.

These are all quotes from St. Paul. Are you telling the rest of us that Paul was sinful BUT, you are not?! How do you change these around and show how Paul was saying that he was righteous and could not sin? Read these carefully:

Romans 7:
17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.

Romans 7:20
20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

Romans 7:25
25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[a] a slave to the law of sin.

Now to address your comment about being perfect!:

1 Corinthians 13:
8Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9For(O) we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but(P) when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12For(Q) now we see in a mirror dimly, but(R) then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as(S) I have been fully known.
This is Paul again, talking about when we die. He says that the "perfect" comes then and not until then does our imperfection pass away. How do you change this around to show us where you are perfect now and Paul said he wasn't !?!

"If Christ is in you, God does not see your imperfection or sinful nature, he sees his son Jesus Christ. Yes God calls us blameless, Holy and Righteous but it is not our it IS NOT our blamelessness, Holiness and Righteousness but what God sees in Christ in us! Once again and unfortunately, there is a great divide between us and what the "Gospel Of Grace" means!!!

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Old Man, you are living in denial, if you think that your are still not sinful. There are no scriptural verse that you can twist to support us being sin free.
God didn't say that we would no longer sin, He said that he would not count them against us.
Romans 4:
8 Blessed is the one
whose sin the Lord will never count against them.

Romans 6:11
11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Our sin died on the cross, it didn't leave us or simply go away.

These are all quotes from St. Paul. Are you telling the rest of us that Paul was sinful BUT, you are not?! How do you change these around and show how Paul was saying that he was righteous and could not sin? Read these carefully:

Romans 7:
17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.

Romans 7:20
20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

Romans 7:25
25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[a] a slave to the law of sin.

Now to address your comment about being perfect!:

1 Corinthians 13:
8Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9For(O) we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but(P) when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12For(Q) now we see in a mirror dimly, but(R) then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as(S) I have been fully known.
This is Paul again, talking about when we die. He says that the "perfect" comes then and not until then does our imperfection pass away. How do you change this around to show us where you are perfect now and Paul said he wasn't !?!

"If Christ is in you, God does not see your imperfection or sinful nature, he sees his son Jesus Christ. Yes God calls us blameless, Holy and Righteous but it is not our it IS NOT our blamelessness, Holiness and Righteousness but what God sees in Christ in us! Once again and unfortunately, there is a great divide between us and what the "Gospel Of Grace" means!!!

Well my friend...If you feel I'm twisting scripture, let me just give you a few and you can twist them yourself. How would that be?

I accepted Jesus and died. Jesus became sin for me so that I could be the righteousness of God in Him. So.... I AM the righteousness of God in the anointed One and His anointing. That is NOW. If I am the righteousness of God I am without sin. Jesus became sin for me.



1 Corinthians 15:34
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

Look at Romans. Chapter 6 Paul is telling us how sin has no authority over us. Chapter 7 he was telling us how it was under the law and chapter 8 he is telling us how it is for us now.

I do really enjoy your shares RJ but please keep things in context.

Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans 6:14-16 (King James Version)


14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 6

1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?


Romans 6:5-7 (King James Version)


5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7For he that is dead is freed from sin.




Romans 6:22
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8

1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.



When I say I am free from sin I mean I am free from sin. Because that's what my God says.

 

[RJ]

Well my friend...If you feel I'm twisting scripture, let me just give you a few and you can twist them yourself. How would that be?

I accepted Jesus and died. Jesus became sin for me so that I could be the righteousness of God in Him. So.... I AM the righteousness of God in the anointed One and His anointing. That is NOW. If I am the righteousness of God I am without sin. Jesus became sin for me.



1 Corinthians 15:34
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

Look at Romans. Chapter 6 Paul is telling us how sin has no authority over us. Chapter 7 he was telling us how it was under the law and chapter 8 he is telling us how it is for us now.

I do really enjoy your shares RJ but please keep things in context.

Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans 6:14-16 (King James Version)


14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 6

1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?


Romans 6:5-7 (King James Version)


5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7For he that is dead is freed from sin.




Romans 6:22
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8

1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.



When I say I am free from sin I mean I am free from sin. Because that's what my God says.

Brother, if you think you are sinless, I have pity for you!
Whether you haven't noticed lately or not, you are still in your flesh that your parents gave you and you are still corrupted from the first Adam and your not perfect just quite yet, my friend!


You Completely ignore 1 Corinthians 13: 9-13 to suite YOUR personal belief that you are perfect! If you are so perfect, why can't you walk through walls or walk on water like Jesus Christ?

As usual, there is a great divide between us Spiritually. And again, you fail to ignore that Paul talks about his sin in him in Romans 7 and you continue to spread YOUR untruths without even answering my simple questions to you.

By the way, you haven't quoted a scripture yet that says that you are perfect, Viejo!!!... Example:

You said:
Look at Romans. Chapter 6 Paul is telling us how sin has no authority over us. Chapter 7 he was telling us how it was under the law and chapter 8 he is telling us how it is for us now.

I do really enjoy your shares RJ but please keep things in context.

This means that Satin and our sins were defeated by the cross and resurrection of Jesus Christ and therefore they have no authority over us or consequences. And, the blood of Jesus washes us still from the sins that we continue to commit. And no, I am not hung up on sin like you enjoy saying, I am release from them.
You always take things out of context and I am now a firm believer that you know very little about Paul's teachings and the Bible, because you are so wrapped up in your own perfection.

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Brother, if you think you are sinless, I have pity for you!
Whether you haven't noticed lately or not, you are still in your flesh that your parents gave you and you are still corrupted from the first Adam and your not perfect just quite yet, my friend!


You Completely ignore 1 Corinthians 13: 9-13 to suite YOUR personal belief that you are perfect! If you are so perfect, why can't you walk through walls or walk on water like Jesus Christ?

As usual, there is a great divide between us Spiritually. And again, you fail to ignore that Paul talks about his sin in him in Romans 7 and you continue to spread YOUR untruths without even answering my simple questions to you.

By the way, you haven't quoted a scripture yet that says that you are perfect, Viejo!!!

I knew you would respond like that. Its predictable. grin

HBUY

 

[RJ]

I knew you would respond like that. Its predictable. grin

HBUY

And I love the way you purposely leave out a lot of my last thread just to hide yourself in your perfection!

 

[El Hombre viejo]

And I love the way you purposely leave out a lot of my last thread just to hide yourself in your perfection!

Actually son I read your posts from start to finish. I just don't like things out of context. I'll go by what God says. We can always agree to disagree instead of getting snarfy. Can we?

 

[RJ]

Actually son I read your posts from start to finish. I just don't like things out of context. I'll go by what God says. We can always agree to disagree instead of getting snarfy. Can we?

O.K., if you read them, why do you refuse to answer my questions to you?

 

[El Hombre viejo]

O.K., if you read them, why do you refuse to answer my questions to you?

How do you change this around to show us where you are perfect now and Paul said he wasn't !?!
I've already said...We are the righteousness of God in the anointed One and His anointing.

You Completely ignore 1 Corinthians 13: 9-13 to suite YOUR personal belief that you are perfect! If you are so perfect, why can't you walk through walls or walk on water like Jesus Christ?
RJ...Do you know what 'perfect' means? Look it up in the Hebrew... It means mature, complete. Like you I'm still growing.

As usual, there is a great divide between us Spiritually. And again, you fail to ignore that Paul talks about his sin in him in Romans 7 and you continue to spread YOUR untruths without even answering my simple questions to you.
Apparently you neglected to read what I wrote too.

...and I am now a firm believer that you know very little about Paul's teachings and the Bible, because you are so wrapped up in your own perfection.

I’m not denying that you are a believer. But obviously we are at different stages of growth. Allow for that ok.



As they say. Chill out dude I don't come on here to fight with you. I don't come on here so you can prove to me how much you know. And I don't come here to show how much I know either. I come here to share and learn. As well as to just fellowship with others of like mind. If I want to argue I'll repent of it.

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Sinless

1 John 3:2-4 (Amplified Bible)

2Beloved, we are [even here and] now God's children; it is not yet disclosed (made clear) what we shall be [hereafter], but we know that when He comes and is manifested, we shall [[a]as God's children] resemble and be like Him, for we shall see Him [b]just as He [really] is.
3And everyone who has this hope [resting] on Him cleanses (purifies) himself just as He is pure (chaste, undefiled, guiltless).
4Everyone who commits (practices) sin is guilty of lawlessness; for [that is what] sin is, lawlessness (the breaking, violating of God's law by transgression or neglect--being unrestrained and unregulated by His commands and His will).


1 John 3:2-4 (Contemporary English Version)

2My dear friends, we are already God's children, though what we will be hasn't yet been seen. But we do know that when Christ returns, we will be like him, because we will see him as he truly is. 3This hope makes us keep ourselves holy, just as Christ [a] is holy. 4Everyone who sins breaks God's law, because sin is the same as breaking God's law.


Oh Guess what? We can be sinless, holy We purify ourselves. We walk in the Light as He is in the Light. When we walk in the Light there isn't even any temptation to sin. Its when we step out of the Light into Satan's realm that we get tempted. Its in the darkness that the monsters live.

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Paul Preaching to Perfect People

1 Corinthians 2:4-8 (King James Version)


4And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
6Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.


1 Corinthians 2:4-8 (Amplified Bible)

4And my language and my message were not set forth in persuasive (enticing and plausible) words of wisdom, but they were in demonstration of the [Holy] Spirit and power [[a]a proof by the Spirit and power of God, operating on me and stirring in the minds of my hearers the most holy emotions and thus persuading them],
5So that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men (human philosophy), but in the power of God.
6Yet when we are among the full-grown (spiritually mature Christians who are ripe in understanding), we do impart a [higher] wisdom (the knowledge of the divine plan previously hidden); but it is indeed not a wisdom of this present age or of this world nor of the leaders and rulers of this age, who are being brought to nothing and are doomed to pass away.
7But rather what we are setting forth is a wisdom of God once hidden [from the human understanding] and now revealed to us by God--[that wisdom] which God devised and decreed before the ages for our glorification [to lift us into the glory of His presence].
8None of the rulers of this age or world perceived and recognized and understood this, for if they had, they would never have crucified the Lord of glory.


1 Corinthians 2:4-8 (Contemporary English Version)

4When I talked with you or preached, I didn't try to prove anything by sounding wise. I simply let God's Spirit show his power. 5That way you would have faith because of God's power and not because of human wisdom.
6We do use wisdom when speaking to people who are mature in their faith. But it isn't the wisdom of this world or of its rulers, who will soon disappear. 7We speak of God's hidden and mysterious wisdom that God decided to use for our glory long before the world began. 8The rulers of this world didn't know anything about this wisdom. If they had known about it, they would not have nailed the glorious Lord to a cross.

 

[RJ]

1 John 3:2-4 (Amplified Bible)

2Beloved, we are [even here and] now God's children; it is not yet disclosed (made clear) what we shall be [hereafter], but we know that when He comes and is manifested, we shall [[a]as God's children] resemble and be like Him, for we shall see Him [b]just as He [really] is.
3And everyone who has this hope [resting] on Him cleanses (purifies) himself just as He is pure (chaste, undefiled, guiltless).
4Everyone who commits (practices) sin is guilty of lawlessness; for [that is what] sin is, lawlessness (the breaking, violating of God's law by transgression or neglect--being unrestrained and unregulated by His commands and His will).


1 John 3:2-4 (Contemporary English Version)

2My dear friends, we are already God's children, though what we will be hasn't yet been seen. But we do know that when Christ returns, we will be like him, because we will see him as he truly is. 3This hope makes us keep ourselves holy, just as Christ [a] is holy. 4Everyone who sins breaks God's law, because sin is the same as breaking God's law.


Oh Guess what? We can be sinless, holy We purify ourselves. We walk in the Light as He is in the Light. When we walk in the Light there isn't even any temptation to sin. Its when we step out of the Light into Satan's realm that we get tempted. Its in the darkness that the monsters live. [/QUOTE

Quite honestly, it never has been about you, it's the fear of what others on the side-line may think of your belief.

Look, I know you will probably take this wrong but, in my young, Spiritually immature self; I know now that I will never make it to your stature but, there is actually a term that is in the Bible and I think it describes you to a tee! It is called being " Double Minded". I know you will look it up and disagree but, nonetheless, Double Minded is like having one foot in the Law and one foot in Grace and you just can't do both.

Your one foot in the Law is your position on your perfection. So, for the sake of others and I know you will disagree but at least others will have an alternate view:

Unless you are simply made perfect through osmosis from Jesus and I don't see anything in the Bible that says this happens, then you will have to agree, that in order for you to have this glowing perfection, there is some function on your part, right? I don't have a clue what it is but you have some function. You battle with satin or you exercise some innate ability to recognized every single sin available to you as a stumbling block. You will probably say that these are not sin but you have some awesome skill to avoid the sins we acquired form early childhood, doubt of any kind, fear of any kind, hate of any kind, negativity of any kind, jealousy of any kind, the sin that Paul said he had, covetness and the list goes on and on.
By the way, I want to ask you a simple question about these types of sin, that I hope you will answer for others: Are you telling us that you can avoid all of these above mention sins and do it 24/7 ?

Anyway back to that one foot in the law. So, there must be some function to some degree that you must do, unless you avoidance of sin just happens for you with out any effort on your part.
Providing you do have some function or role to play to avoid all sin around you, then that is the Law my friend, the law of doing or requirements on your part. God says (paraphrasing): that the Law can make you sinless and perfect but he said you have to do them all perfectly 24/7 ; if you miss just one, one time, then you are lost to your sin! So a question: Are you saying that you never sin, not the least, itsy-bitsy, little bitty sin, ever?

Your doing this is not of grace because God said grace was a gift and if it is a gift it is free and being free you don't do anything for it and if you did, you could boast!

So, with this sin avoidance of yours, this one foot in the Law,be careful my friend, If you mess up one time, even for one millisecond, 24/7, then you are not perfect and I shudder to think what would happen then!