Names Jesus is Identified by.

[Lanolin]

No I did no such thing, the lineage of rulers is from Judah and Jesus had Judaen lineage from his earthly father but He came as a lamb that was slain. By his own Judaen brothers.

I think people misunderstand that. Also multi-faith seminars may include Jewish pwrspectives and they obviously stilk believe the Messiah comes as a lion, but we know Jesus has already come in the flesh and He was slain. And rose again and only the lambs sacrifice was worthy.

Thats all I wanted to acknowledge.

Sorry to derail this thread because its meant to be about christian movies. Well one I saw recently I recommend is Christian Mingle.

 

[Christ4Ever]

No I did no such thing, the lineage of rulers is from Judah and Jesus had Judaen lineage from his earthly father but He came as a lamb that was slain. By his own Judaen brothers.

I think people misunderstand that. Also multi-faith seminars may include Jewish pwrspectives and they obviously stilk believe the Messiah comes as a lion, but we know Jesus has already come in the flesh and He was slain. And rose again and only the lambs sacrifice was worthy.

Thats all I wanted to acknowledge.

Sorry to derail this thread because its meant to be about christian movies. Well one I saw recently I recommend is Christian Mingle.

Who is this meant for? What are you denying having done?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
<><

 

[Lanolin]

Jesus does not go by the name of lion of Judea. Ask Him if you not sure.

This is a name given to rulers from the tribe of Judea. Jesus has always been named the Lamb of God. John the Baptist did not declare, 'behold the Lion of Judea'.

Remember Jesus earthly lineage from Joseph was Tribe of Judah so can lay claim to the throne but as we know Jesus had divine lineage from above, he was begotten. Unbelievers do not know this. They assume he was from Judah and were looking for a lion type messiah.

Jesus is the good shepherd, He keeps the sheep from the lions and bears and leopards.

 

[Christ4Ever]

@Lanolin
Good suggestion on moving this discussion to another thread. So, it is done. I shouldn't have let it go on as long as it did!!! Already 2 pages worth of postings!!!

I'll go ahead and move your last post back to the Movie thread. Apologies on that.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
<><

 

[B-A-C]

Jesus does not go by the name of lion of Judea. Ask Him if you not sure.

Rev 5:5; And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

 

[Lanolin]

Again Bac please read the whole chapter not just that verse. You have a habit of just picking single verses and not rightly dividing the Word of God.

How many times do you read the bible post it with the undelining the thing you want to point out and just ignore all the other verses? This is not right, because you mislead others and deceive yourself.

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

I once heard it said
He came as the Son of God or the Lamb of God BUT Will return as the Lion of Judah.

He is a Rock that both stand on or trip over is seen. Same man different roles.

Saviour - Prince of Peace - Messiah -Teacher - High Priest Of our Confession - Mighty Counselor -Lamb of God - Son of Man - Lion of Judah

Just sayen......just because one may not totally understand something written in Scripture does not make it not so......meaning if Scripture says something then that's the way it is whether or not I understand it yet.

Blessings
W4F

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

If I my butt in....
I like animals and two of my 'favourite' animals (after bears, of course!) are lions and tigers. The Siberian Tigers must be the most magnificent creatures (from my way of seeing critters). Check them out.... amazingly beautiful and admirable.
I don't dismiss any animals as insignificant and wonderful in their own right. All are exquisite. But the Lions and Tigers..... are such magnificent animals. Yes, they kill. Perhaps something that I like? They are powerful and pure killing 'machines'.
But something saddens me and I know too well that Lions and Tigers are not the only victims. It's called Poaching.
One of the most horrible acts against God's creation yet I don't think it is listed in Scripture (let me know if it is, please)

Yes, POACHING. A vile and disgusting act performed by men and I do all that I can to not hate such persons with everything I can..... such is my displeasure in their dirty actions.

When we watch documentary type programs, we also see that all animals have their part in the eco-system.

What am I on about?

Again, poachers. Who kills Lions and Tigers for any reason besides self defence?

Yes, the Lamb was slain. Could it be that the Lion was slain, too?

pray for me that i don't hate poachers.


Bless you ....><>

 

[B-A-C]

Again Bac please read the whole chapter not just that verse. You have a habit of just picking single verses and not rightly dividing the Word of God.

Perhaps instead of telling others to "read the Bible". (I have read through the entire Bible dozens of times)
You can give us scripture telling us where we are incorrect.

Rev 5:5; and one of the elders *said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals."
Rev 5:6; And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth.
Rev 5:7; And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.
Rev 5:8; When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

The lamb is the Lion of Judah. No matter which version of the Bible read, and no matter how much of Revelation 5 you read this doesn't change.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

not sure if this is what can be read in to it, but part a seems to be 'expounded' by part b.

Amos 3:8
The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

Is that correct?


Bless you ....><>

 

[Born Again 2004]

Saw God's Not Dead2 last night on dvd.

I liked it! Although..I'm just not sure about the Newsboys song. Why do they sing God is roaring like a lion...I thought the Bible says the devil was like a lion. ?!

• 1 Peter 5:8 The devil ...stay alert!!!....He prowls like a Lion looking for someone to Devour!!!
• God is on the inside and roars like a lion but not to do harm as in devour. Lives on the inside, which the devil can never do!

Greetings,

not sure if this is what can be read in to it, but part a seems to be 'expounded' by part b.

Amos 3:8
The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

Is that correct?


Bless you ....><>

• Fear as to respect, humble yourself and marvel at...not to be afraid of.
• But, in Amos's day many a devout Jew feared God...one example was : Exodus 33:20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live." That was before Jesus and when God was referring to the mortal Body!
• After Jesus we see: 1 Corinthians 13:12 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known....this is after physical death and spiritually coming before God.
• Paul was trying to explain this but many a Jew did not understand!

 

[Lanolin]

Perhaps instead of telling others to "read the Bible". (I have read through the entire Bible dozens of times)
You can give us scripture telling us where we are incorrect.

Rev 5:5; and one of the elders *said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals."
Rev 5:6; And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth.
Rev 5:7; And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.
Rev 5:8; When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

The lamb is the Lion of Judah. No matter which version of the Bible read, and no matter how much of Revelation 5 you read this doesn't change.

Nooooo again you have got it wrong.

The lamb is the one who is worthy it doesnt mean he IS the lion.

Ok i will give you an example, so you dont mistake it.
The four beasts around the throne, were any of them lambs? No, but one was like a lion. What does a lion do, he slays the lamb. (Or tries to! ) Does the lion open the book of life? No the lamb does. Because the lamb is alive. The lamb does not turn into a lion.

i mean that is ridiculous, the thing is the lamb occupies the position on the throne that the lion had (or thought he had). We know that lions are naturally majestic creatures top of the food chain and everything. But they will not rule the sheep.

Greetings,

not sure if this is what can be read in to it, but part a seems to be 'expounded' by part b.

Amos 3:8
The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

Is that correct?


Bless you ....><>

Have a read further down to Amos 3:12

If you read Amos, that prophet is talking about evil coming upon israel, like a lion roaring in a forest looking for prey. He is warning them.

I am not going to post the entire book here. You all have your bibles.

I know people mean well, but seriously I am thinking it is a serious kind of schizophrenia to think a lion turns into a lamb. Or vice versa.

It is worse than people that expound evolution and claim humans descended from apes.

 

[Born Again 2004]

Nooooo again you have got it wrong.

The lamb is the one who is worthy it doesnt mean he IS the lion.

Ok i will give you an example, so you dont mistake it.
The four beasts around the throne, were any of them lambs? No, but one was like a lion. What does a lion do, he slays the lamb. (Or tries to! ) Does the lion open the book of life? No the lamb does. Because the lamb is alive. The lamb does not turn into a lion.

i mean that is ridiculous, the thing is the lamb occupies the position on the throne that the lion had (or thought he had). We know that lions are naturally majestic creatures top of the food chain and everything. But they will not rule the sheep.

Jesus is many things in scripture and if you believe Jesus, he and God are one in the same:

God is described with a number of leonine features. He is strong Isaiah 38:13 , fearless in protecting his own Isaiah 31:4 , stealthy in coming upon his prey Jeremiah 49:19 ; Hosea 13:7 , frightening Hosea 11:10 ; Amos 3:8 , and destructive Jeremiah 25:38 ; Lamentations 3:10 ; Hosea 5:14 ; 13:8 . In Amos 3:8 "The Lion" even appears as a title for God.

Jesus is many things in scripture and if you believe Jesus, he and God are one in the same:

God is described with a number of leonine features. He is strong Isaiah 38:13 , fearless in protecting his own Isaiah 31:4 , stealthy in coming upon his prey Jeremiah 49:19 ; Hosea 13:7 , frightening Hosea 11:10 ; Amos 3:8 , and destructive Jeremiah 25:38 ; Lamentations 3:10 ; Hosea 5:14 ; 13:8 . In Amos 3:8 "The Lion" even appears as a title for God.

Whenever we read about a lion, context is king. It can either refer to Jesus Christ as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah or it can refer to Satan who is roaming about as a roaring lion, seeking out whom he might destroy. One is a destroyer…the other is the Savior.

 

[Lanolin]

Lets look at the blessing/prophecy Jacob gave to his twelve sons especially Judah.

Genesis 49:8-12

Who is Shiloh?

Bornagain are you reading KJV? It looks like you are reading NIV and its attributing lion to God when actually the lion is referring to the enemy and adversary of Israel.

You need to read the surrounding passages. Its very clear in the KJV that the lion is not the lamb and vice versa, and that the lamb was slain.

 

[Born Again 2004]

Bornagain are you reading KJV? It looks like you are reading NIV and its attributing lion to God when actually the lion is referring to the enemy and adversary of Israel.

You need to read the surrounding passages. Its very clear in the KJV that the lion is not the lamb and vice versa, and that the lamb was slain.

So, we differ with this and other things....God Bless you and YOUR understanding!

At least two dozen times...i cant believe people miss that nd still think Jesus is meant to be a lion. Uh, NO!

• LOL!!!! I assure you, when he comes the final time, he will be no lamb!!!!
• John 12:47 "If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world....The world was saved by a Lamb.
• Wait till he comes back....He won't be "Roaring" like a Lamb.
• Dear Sister, I see you advising more than one on TJ to read the Bible more....I suggest you heed your own words!
  

 

[Lanolin]

Well if we were reading the same Bible we wouldnt differ so much I suppose...but you see God is light in him no darkness at all and no shadow of His turning, so am very dismayed to hear people keep claiming He is something He isnt.

I think its a problem with some peoples Bible versions arent very clear.

Lets keep searching scripture to see if these things are so, and see Jesus is the good shepherd he looks after the sheep. When David looked after the sheep, he kept them from the lions and bears. Daniel stopped the mouths of the lions. Who would ever have thought that there could be wrath of the Lamb but it says right in revelation 6:16-17 that there is... and further on to revelation 7:9-17

• LOL!!!! I assure you, when he comes the final time, he will be no lamb!!!!
• John 12:47 "If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world....The world was saved by a Lamb.
• Wait till he comes back....He won't be "Roaring" like a Lamb.
• Dear Sister, I see you advising more than one on TJ to read the Bible more....I suggest you heed your own words!

I suggest you read the scriptures I have pointed out. This is vital. It does not say wrath of the lion. What does it say?

Where do you get your erroneous doctrine from? Ask God if you are not sure. Certainly there is no such thing as the lions book of life, if you are looking for a lion, its not going to be Jesus.

My sheep hear my voice, to another they will not listen. You seriously think the sheep are going to heed a lion?

Here is an article that perhaps can explain it better than I can...bless the person who wrote this.



Jesus Christ: The Lamb of God versus the Lion of the Tribe of Judah - BibleTruths

 

[Psalm23Rick]

For Lanolin -

I believe I have a word for you from the Lord — take it or leave it. I also believe that this word is applicable to many…

The Lord revealed to me thru the latest Star Wars movie that I saw yesterday, that there are things NOT covered or documented in the Bible that are still true — they are still of God the Father. You need to expand your thinking beyond the barriers of your own limits — let the Lord show you & reveal to you things that we humans can’t fathom. Don’t be boxed in. Don’t be hindered by your own limits. We are in a time where putting limits on our own understandings will limit what the Lord wants to do through you. He can expand your horizons but only if you let Him.

Anyway, that's what I got just a few minutes ago... Like I said, take it or leave it. I'm just the conduit.

 

[Lanolin]

For Lanolin -

I believe I have a word for you from the Lord — take it or leave it. I also believe that this word is applicable to many…

The Lord revealed to me thru the latest Star Wars movie that I saw yesterday, that there are things NOT covered or documented in the Bible that are still true — they are still of God the Father. You need to expand your thinking beyond the barriers of your own limits — let the Lord show you & reveal to you things that we humans can’t fathom. Don’t be boxed in. Don’t be hindered by your own limits. We are in a time where putting limits on our own understandings will limit what the Lord wants to do through you. He can expand your horizons but only if you let Him.

Anyway, that's what I got just a few minutes ago... Like I said, take it or leave it. I'm just the conduit.

He showed you through a star wars movie?

God shows me stuff through gardening. I dont watch star wars. I would fall asleep if I did. I went to the planetarium a few weeks ago as dad was having a work do there, and they showed two movies about black holes and another topic which I really tried to stay awake for but sadly I fell asleep in that too.

I mean what I did get from it the part I remember.,and these were actual NASA docos, was that these black holes were from dying stars as if someone had ripped the stars from the sky and the gravitational pull was sucking everything into this black hole of space time.

So I was sitting in my chair which lounges back and its dark and my eyes are growing sleepy. i cant really think of what the american voice is telling me this scientific mumbo jumbo about billions of years of evolution etc. how do they know they arent God. But one thing that stood out that scientists are only just discovering is eternity is in Gods hands and actually He is behind gravity. He can bend space time laws. I mean raisng Jesus from the dead isnt that defying gravity., well since God controls the universe, He can do stuff like that.

Sorry star wars fans, I never really got into all the occult references in that movie. I mean its not a christian movie by any means, if you could ask the late Carrie Fisher she'd be the first to tell you shes not to be worshipped.

Next thing people will be saying why dont we read Lord of the Rings instead of the Bible. Read Lord of the Rings or Narnia if you must, but all Im saying is dont treat it as the Word of God. People often go after myths instead of the truth. That is where they come unstuck.

 

[Psalm23Rick]

Just remember that God is God and He can speak thru any means He desires. He's spoken to me thru a number of avenues in my short ~3 years of savedom. Music, albeit christian, was the first method He used in me a bunch of times. Not much anymore. He's spoken thru movies as well with me. I'm not saying that SW is a faith based movie by any means -- I just mentioned that I got a take away from it -- albeit a small one that eventually led to the rest of what I wrote above..

The other day I was listening to a podcast where a prophesy was given by Alan Davenport to another guest on the show and that prophesy, while it was for the guest, was speaking clearly and loudly to my spirit so I accepted it. Is that biblical? Who knows. I let my spirit decide these things -- there was NOTHING that was not scriptural in any of this. Believe or not -- it's always your choice. God can use me in whatever capacity He wants. I CANNOT and WILL NOT deny Him!

A friend told me, he's been a believer for decades, recently that the Lord told him clearly that "I can use whomever I wish" and I believe that can be extended to read "I can use whomever I wish and whatever I wish" to achieve His goals in person X's life. Maybe you're watching a secular YouTube video or watching a newscast -- He can use anything He wants to call out to YOUR spirit if He desires to. We can't be boxed in by our limited human reasoning and thinking. Big things are on the horizon that will challenge all of our thinking patterns, our beliefs...

 

[Wisdom'sFruit]

Lets go through the book of revelation and elsewhere in the bible and count all the references to lamb and compare that with references to lions. I challenge you. Where are these...the firsr I've done for you,

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals... rev 6:2

Twenty four elders fell down before the lamb

Worthy is the lamb!

Lamb of God

Behold the lamb of God who takea away the sin of the world!

The twelve apostles of the !amb

The lambs wife

Lambs book of life

Marriage supper of the lamb

Throne of God and the lamb

Firstfruits unto God and the Lamb

Lamb slain from the foundation of the world

Feed my sheep

Feed my lambs

Yes, Christ is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. And you may prefer Him to remain as such. However, the Word has spoken, and it is not against man you are protesting but the Word. When Christ returns, He is NOT returning like a lamb being lead to slaughter, but rather as a LION, to devour His enemies. For all things there is a season. When the completed number of the faithful is filled, and at the time , when it is time to collect what is His- He will then address that which is irredeemable. They will not feel His sweet, humble side, but rather HIS WRATH! This is reserved for the condemnation of the evil. God Bless!