Nephilim

[lentz]

Genesis 6 doesn’t say anything as ridiculous as angels having sex with women.
Those sons of God spoken of are mere men.
Believers marrying no believers just as today and as Paul spoke of in Corinthians.
The term giants,only describes there position in society,or of great reputation.
With that description,there are many giants today,ie;Trump, Musk

 

[Charlie24]

Genesis 6 doesn’t say anything as ridiculous as angels having sex with women.
Those sons of God spoken of are mere men.
Believers marrying no believers just as today and as Paul spoke of in Corinthians.
The term giants,only describes there position in society,or of great reputation.
With that description,there are many giants today,ie;Trump, Musk

I doubt you will agree with the theologians when they use the comparison of Jude 6 -7.

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

The "fornication and going after strange flesh" of Sodom and Gamorrah is compared to what these fallen angels did with women on earth.

 

[lentz]

I doubt you will agree with the theologians when they use the comparison of Jude 6 -7.

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

The "fornication and going after strange flesh" of Sodom and Gamorrah is compared to what these fallen angels did with women on earth.

So then you think homosexuals today are fallen angels?

 

[Charlie24]

So then you think homosexuals today are fallen angels?

Aww, come on, Lentz. I'm just showing you where the sexual part comes in according to Scripture.

 

[lentz]

Aww, come on, Lentz. I'm just showing you where the sexual part comes in according to Scripture.

But brother scripture doesn’t say that.

Strange that no angel has ever taken the form of a woman.
They would come closer to deceiving men and causing these so called hybrids.

There is nut name Arnold Murray of Shepherds Chapel who believes Paul said it’s a shame for a man to have long hair,because of a second influx of these fallen angels are coming and will rape men with long hair.
Seems they have bad eyesight as well

 

[Charlie24]

But brother scripture doesn’t say that.

Strange that no angel has ever taken the form of a woman.
They would come closer to deceiving men and causing these so called hybrids.

There is nut name Arnold Murray of Shepherds Chapel who believes Paul said it’s a shame for a man to have long hair,because of a second influx of these fallen angels are coming and will rape men with long hair.
Seems they have bad eyesight as well

Somehow I had the feeling it would have no effect. But that's ok, we don't all see eye to eye on everything.

 

[lentz]

Most of the scriptures I don’t understand. I realize Jude and others talk of bad angels. But I don’t know for certain who they are or came from.
It could be heaven,but then Pastors are called angels as well.

But I know that if there were fallen angels from heaven,God knew and allowed it. He is never taken by surprise.
To think Satan went behind the back of an all knowing God,whispering getting folk to follow him is utter nonsense.
Everything is according to his plan.
As part of his plan, I feel God placed Satan in the garden.
Man has to overcome in order to reach heaven.
Scripture says that plan of salvation was ordained before the foundation of the world.
That was BEFORE man fell in the garden.
Nothing changes nor hinders God plans

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Genesis 6 doesn’t say anything as ridiculous as angels having sex with women.
Those sons of God spoken of are mere men.
Believers marrying no believers just as today and as Paul spoke of in Corinthians.
The term giants,only describes there position in society,or of great reputation.
With that description,there are many giants today,ie;Trump, Musk

All respect to you sir, but...That's the stupidest statement I've read so far this year You're saying that God did not know what He was talking about when He spoke of those creatures and events?

 

[lentz]

All respect to you sir, but...That's the stupidest statement I've read so far this year You're saying that God did not know what He was talking about when He spoke of those creatures and events?

Stupid is as stupid does
And the year just started

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. To study the Word intellectually is a waste of time. You may as well read comic books. If you are going to get into the Word do it with the Holy Spirit, letting Him guide and teach you.. He wrote the Word, He is the Word and He understands the Word...and He wants you to understand it too. Let Him teach you!

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Stupid is as stupid does
And the year just started

Yeah but you can stop the stupid anytime you decide to

 

[lentz]

Yeah but you can stop the stupid anytime you decide to

Thank you for letting me decide what is scripture and what is stupid. For a moment there I thought you were deciding for me.
You’re too gracious

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Thank you for letting me decide what is scripture and what is stupid. For a moment there I thought you were deciding for me.
You’re too gracious

I know I'm too gracious. LOL But you are saying that you've never understood scripture. You can understand it, though, if you read it with the Holy Spirit guiding you, teaching you.

Romans 8:5
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.​

 

[lentz]

I know I'm too gracious. LOL But you are saying that you've never understood scripture. You can understand it, though, if you read it with the Holy Spirit guiding you, teaching you.

That goes without saying. For anyone.
There are more great theologians who agree with me than with you on the subject of angels having sex with earthly women.
Just whatever makes more sense to you.
I am pretty certain the Holy Spirit didn’t tell anyone angels can have sexual feelings and relationships.
I am willing to guess you believe Sodom was taken over by fallen homosexual angels

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

That goes without saying. For anyone.
There are more great theologians who agree with me than with you on the subject of angels having sex with earthly women.
Just whatever makes more sense to you.
I am pretty certain the Holy Spirit didn’t tell anyone angels can have sexual feelings and relationships.
I am willing to guess you believe Sodom was taken over by fallen homosexual angels

I am willing to believe that you like fiction better than fact

 

[lentz]

I am willing to believe that you like fiction better than fact

That’s fine

 

[lentz]

Aww, come on, Lentz. I'm just showing you where the sexual part comes in according to Scripture.

Genesis called those beings “Sons of God”. Angels are not Sons.

 

[Charlie24]

Genesis called those beings “Sons of God”. Angels are not Sons.

I beg to differ. The "Sons of God" in Genesis 6 are the same "Sons of God" in Job 1:6.

" Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them."

This meeting took place in heaven, at the throne of God. The fallen angels came to give account of themselves to God.

 

[lentz]

I beg to differ. The "Sons of God" in Genesis 6 are the same "Sons of God" in Job 1:6.

" Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them."

This meeting took place in heaven, at the throne of God. The fallen angels came to give account of themselves to God.

How can you be sure?
Those sons could be believers on earth praying.
That’s how believers come into the presence of God

 

[Charlie24]

How can you be sure?
Those sons could be believers on earth praying.
That’s how believers come into the presence of God

In the Hebrew the definite article is used before the word "Satan," which makes it read "and "the" Satan came also among them."

Scholar Kenneth Wuest point out that "The Satan" signifies the leader of evil. This verse tells us that even the heavenly hosts of evil report to God and give account of themselves before God.