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I will have to go with KJV.
No disrespect, but to me,angels having sex is more like a cartoon .
Greek mythology at best
In the KJV Jude 1:6-7 it speaks of angels doing evil things and it points out one of those things as sexual immorality like that done in sodom and gamorah. I guess that doesnt count as it doesnt adhere to what you have already decided as the truth.
 
In the KJV Jude 1:6-7 it speaks of angels doing evil things and it points out one of those things as sexual immorality like that done in sodom and gamorah. I guess that doesnt count as it doesnt adhere to what you have already decided as the truth.

Those verses say nothing about angels having sex.
 
Those verses say nothing about angels having sex.

Of course they do, you just refuse to see it. You are blinded to it, I wonder how many other things you are blinded about, and was this blindness self inflicted or done to you by another?
 
Of course they do, you just refuse to see it. You are blinded to it, I wonder how many other things you are blinded about, and was this blindness self inflicted or done to you by another?

No it doesn’t. You just read it into it.
First the verses talk of men,then angels that left their first estate (no one knows exactly who they were),and then Sodom and Gomorrah.
Men(humans)lived in Sodom and Gomorrah,not angels
 
No it doesn’t. You just read it into it.
First the verses talk of men,then angels that left their first estate (no one knows exactly who they were),and then Sodom and Gomorrah.
Men(humans)lived in Sodom and Gomorrah,not angels
You are seeing what you want to see, it was saying that angels sinned and will be punished, and stated that one of the sins was that of sodom and gamorah. I wash my hands of you blind and deaf man.
 
You are seeing what you want to see, it was saying that angels sinned and will be punished, and stated that one of the sins was that of sodom and gamorah. I wash my hands of you blind and deaf man.

Thanks.
 
I will have to go with KJV.
No disrespect, but to me,angels having sex is more like a cartoon .
Greek mythology at best

[KJV]
Jude 1:6; And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 1:7; Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

In context we are talking about angels here. "Just as" Sodom and Gomorrah".... what was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah? .... they ( the angels ) "in the same way" as these ( the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah ) indulged in gross
( sexual ) immorality and went after strange flesh. What is "strange flesh"? A type of fleshly being that is not the same as you. What is fornication? You can't commit fornication unless you're having sex.

AMPC) [The wicked are sentenced to suffer] just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the adjacent towns--which likewise gave themselves over to impurity and indulged in unnatural vice and sensual perversity--are laid out [in plain sight] as an exhibit of perpetual punishment [to warn] of everlasting fire. [Genesis 19]
(ASV) Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, having in like manner with these given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.
(BSB) In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.
(Greek NT) ὡς Σόδομα καὶ Γόμορρα καὶ αἱ περὶ αὐτὰς πόλεις τὸν ὅμοιον τούτοις τρόπον ἐκπορνεύσασαι καὶ ἀπελθοῦσαι ὀπίσω σαρκὸς ἑτέρας πρόκεινται δεῖγμα, πυρὸς αἰωνίου δίκην ὑπέχουσαι.
(Greek NT BYZ+) ωςG5613 ADV σοδομαG4670 N-NPN καιG2532 CONJ γομορραG1116 N-NSF καιG2532 CONJ αιG3588 T-NPF περιG4012 PREP αυταςG846 P-APF πολειςG4172 N-NPF τονG3588 T-ASM ομοιονG3664 A-ASM τουτοιςG3778 D-DPM τροπονG5158 N-ASM εκπορνευσασαιG1608 V-AAP-NPF καιG2532 CONJ απελθουσαιG565 V-2AAP-NPF οπισωG3694 ADV σαρκοςG4561 N-GSF ετεραςG2087 A-GSF προκεινταιG4295 V-PNI-3P δειγμαG1164 N-ASN πυροςG4442 N-GSN αιωνιουG166 A-GSN δικηνG1349 N-ASF υπεχουσαιG5254 V-PAP-NPF
(Greek NT TR+) ωςG5613 ADV σοδομαG4670 N-NPN καιG2532 CONJ γομορραG1116 N-NSF καιG2532 CONJ αιG3588 T-NPF περιG4012 PREP αυταςG846 P-APF πολειςG4172 N-NPF τονG3588 T-ASM ομοιονG3664 A-ASM τουτοιςG3778 D-DPM τροπονG5158 N-ASM εκπορνευσασαιG1608 V-AAP-NPF καιG2532 CONJ απελθουσαιG565 V-2AAP-NPF οπισωG3694 ADV σαρκοςG4561 N-GSF ετεραςG2087 A-GSF προκεινταιG4295 V-PNI-3P δειγμαG1164 N-ASN πυροςG4442 N-GSN αιωνιουG166 A-GSN δικηνG1349 N-ASF υπεχουσαιG5254 V-PAP-NPF
(KJV) Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
(KJV+) Even asG5613 SodomG4670 andG2532 Gomorrha,G1116 andG2532 theG3588 citiesG4172 aboutG4012 themG846 in like manner,G3664 G5158 giving themselves over to fornication,G1608 andG2532 goingG565 afterG3694 strangeG2087 flesh,G4561 are set forthG4295 for an example,G1164 sufferingG5254 the vengeanceG1349 of eternalG166 fire.G4442
(MKJV) as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, in like manner to these, committing fornication, and going away after other flesh, laid down an example before-times, undergoing vengeance of everlasting fire.
(NAS77) Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
(NAS95) just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
(NIV) In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
(NKJV) as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Practically every version says... "just as" or "in the same way" as the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Let us look at the original Greek also,
The word that the King James translates as fornication here is...

ἐκπορνεύω
ekporneuō
ek-porn-yoo'-o
From G1537 and G4203; to be utterly unchaste: - give self over to fornication.

This is where the word "pornography" comes from. There is no denying it has to do with sex.
 
All through the Bible, God's people were killing Giants. Why was this? Where did the Giants come from? Even if you skip Genesis 6. Giants are mentioned in about a dozen other verses.
All verses below are from King James Version.

2Sam 21:16 And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David.
2Sam 21:18 And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant.
2Sam 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
2Sam 21:22 These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
1Chron 20:4 And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued.
1Chron 20:6 And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant.
1Chron 20:8 These were born unto the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
Job 16:14 He breaketh me with breach upon breach, he runneth upon me like a giant.

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Numb 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Deut 2:11 Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.
Deut 2:20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
Deut 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
Deut 3:13 And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
Josh 12:4 And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,
Josh 13:12 All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.
Josh 15:8 And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:
Josh 17:15 And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee.
Josh 18:16 And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,

The word "nephilim" is not in the King James, but many other Bibles use it in these verses.

It seems Anak and Goliath were the two most well known Giants.

Numb 13:33; And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Deut 9:2; A people great and tall, the children of the Anakims, whom thou knowest, and of whom thou hast heard say, Who can stand before the children of Anak!

1Sam 17:4; And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

1Sam 17:7; And the staff of his spear was like a weaver's beam; and his spear's head weighed six hundred shekels of iron: and one bearing a shield went before him.
2Sam 21:19; And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.
1Chron 11:23; And he slew an Egyptian, a man of great stature, five cubits high; and in the Egyptian's hand was a spear like a weaver's beam; and he went down to him with a staff, and plucked the spear out of the Egyptian's hand, and slew him with his own spear.
1Chron 20:5; And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan the son of Jair slew Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, whose spear staff was like a weaver's beam.

Joshua 13:12; says Moses killed some giants.

There is more less obvious ones, like verses that mention the size of their armor, and the size of their bed. But this is enough for now. With all these verses that mention Giants, it would seem undeniable that giants did indeed exist.
If the Bible says there were giants, how could anyone deny it?
 
Perhaps the most controversial passage in the old testament. I usually don't use the King James, but the verses below are from King James.

Gen 6:2; That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3; And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4; There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The "sons of God", some say this is angels, some say these are men. If they were merely men, why doesn't it say the "sons of men". Also if these were merely men, why does this verse point them out.
The verse before this passage says...

Gen 6:1; And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them

Say since Adam and Eve men and women were having sons and daughters, and that seemed to be a normal thing. But yet when the sons of God came into the daughters of men, it was different. God wasn't happy about this.
What was different?

Gen 6:5; And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6; And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7; And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
 
[KJV]
Jude 1:6; And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 1:7; Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

In context we are talking about angels here. "Just as" Sodom and Gomorrah".... what was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah? .... they ( the angels ) "in the same way" as these ( the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah ) indulged in gross
( sexual ) immorality and went after strange flesh. What is "strange flesh"? A type of fleshly being that is not the same as you. What is fornication? You can't commit fornication unless you're having sex.

AMPC) [The wicked are sentenced to suffer] just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the adjacent towns--which likewise gave themselves over to impurity and indulged in unnatural vice and sensual perversity--are laid out [in plain sight] as an exhibit of perpetual punishment [to warn] of everlasting fire. [Genesis 19]
(ASV) Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, having in like manner with these given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.
(BSB) In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.
(Greek NT) ὡς Σόδομα καὶ Γόμορρα καὶ αἱ περὶ αὐτὰς πόλεις τὸν ὅμοιον τούτοις τρόπον ἐκπορνεύσασαι καὶ ἀπελθοῦσαι ὀπίσω σαρκὸς ἑτέρας πρόκεινται δεῖγμα, πυρὸς αἰωνίου δίκην ὑπέχουσαι.
(Greek NT BYZ+) ωςG5613 ADV σοδομαG4670 N-NPN καιG2532 CONJ γομορραG1116 N-NSF καιG2532 CONJ αιG3588 T-NPF περιG4012 PREP αυταςG846 P-APF πολειςG4172 N-NPF τονG3588 T-ASM ομοιονG3664 A-ASM τουτοιςG3778 D-DPM τροπονG5158 N-ASM εκπορνευσασαιG1608 V-AAP-NPF καιG2532 CONJ απελθουσαιG565 V-2AAP-NPF οπισωG3694 ADV σαρκοςG4561 N-GSF ετεραςG2087 A-GSF προκεινταιG4295 V-PNI-3P δειγμαG1164 N-ASN πυροςG4442 N-GSN αιωνιουG166 A-GSN δικηνG1349 N-ASF υπεχουσαιG5254 V-PAP-NPF
(Greek NT TR+) ωςG5613 ADV σοδομαG4670 N-NPN καιG2532 CONJ γομορραG1116 N-NSF καιG2532 CONJ αιG3588 T-NPF περιG4012 PREP αυταςG846 P-APF πολειςG4172 N-NPF τονG3588 T-ASM ομοιονG3664 A-ASM τουτοιςG3778 D-DPM τροπονG5158 N-ASM εκπορνευσασαιG1608 V-AAP-NPF καιG2532 CONJ απελθουσαιG565 V-2AAP-NPF οπισωG3694 ADV σαρκοςG4561 N-GSF ετεραςG2087 A-GSF προκεινταιG4295 V-PNI-3P δειγμαG1164 N-ASN πυροςG4442 N-GSN αιωνιουG166 A-GSN δικηνG1349 N-ASF υπεχουσαιG5254 V-PAP-NPF
(KJV) Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
(KJV+) Even asG5613 SodomG4670 andG2532 Gomorrha,G1116 andG2532 theG3588 citiesG4172 aboutG4012 themG846 in like manner,G3664 G5158 giving themselves over to fornication,G1608 andG2532 goingG565 afterG3694 strangeG2087 flesh,G4561 are set forthG4295 for an example,G1164 sufferingG5254 the vengeanceG1349 of eternalG166 fire.G4442
(MKJV) as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, in like manner to these, committing fornication, and going away after other flesh, laid down an example before-times, undergoing vengeance of everlasting fire.
(NAS77) Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
(NAS95) just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
(NIV) In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
(NKJV) as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Practically every version says... "just as" or "in the same way" as the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Let us look at the original Greek also,
The word that the King James translates as fornication here is...

ἐκπορνεύω
ekporneuō
ek-porn-yoo'-o
From G1537 and G4203; to be utterly unchaste: - give self over to fornication.

This is where the word "pornography" comes from. There is no denying it has to do with sex.
That’s not what it’s saying.
There is a break there between 6 and 7
It’s like people reading .Christ went to hell and preached to dead people in the episte of Peter.
That never happened either
 
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