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Rxlx

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So many people - especially Christians - have been brainwashed to believe they fly off to heaven or hell when they die despite Jesus and the Bible clearly saying no one does anything but die and all their thoughts perish.

All you people who claim soem has gone to heaven or hell are deluded an dneed to study the Bible to learn the truth.
 
So many people - especially Christians - have been brainwashed to believe they fly off to heaven or hell when they die despite Jesus and the Bible clearly saying no one does anything but die and all their thoughts perish.

All you people who claim soem has gone to heaven or hell are deluded an dneed to study the Bible to learn the truth.
Dear Rxlx,
It is easy to make a statement, but without any scriptural support to substantiate it, one is merely making baseless claims. Since you imply that you know the truth, providing such support should be straightforward and would actually assist others in evaluating the accuracy of your comments.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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So many people - especially Christians - have been brainwashed to believe they fly off to heaven or hell when they die despite Jesus and the Bible clearly saying no one does anything but die and all their thoughts perish.

All you people who claim soem has gone to heaven or hell are deluded an dneed to study the Bible to learn the truth.
I have been to heaven numerous times. I have seen plenty of people who have died from this earth go to heaven.

Where do your claims go when you meet eye-witnesses?
 
So many people - especially Christians - have been brainwashed to believe they fly off to heaven or hell when they die despite Jesus and the Bible clearly saying no one does anything but die and all their thoughts perish.

All you people who claim soem has gone to heaven or hell are deluded an dneed to study the Bible to learn the truth.
Rxlx, what is your proof? I have studied since 1/1/'90 and I find you are wrong. John 14:3
 
So many people - especially Christians - have been brainwashed to believe they fly off to heaven or hell when they die despite Jesus and the Bible clearly saying no one does anything but die and all their thoughts perish.

All you people who claim soem has gone to heaven or hell are deluded an dneed to study the Bible to learn the truth.

Looks like part of the doctrine more like cherry picking.

Living in a body of death under the letter of law "death" is the one appointment all make right on time. The former things will not be remembered or ever come to mind.

The death of death (thou shall not) with the suffering of hell. . . . dying.

We can rejoice yoked with his labor of love or called work of faith (Power to raise the powerless, faithless)
 
Rxlx, what is your proof? I have studied since 1/1/'90 and I find you are wrong. John 14:3
John 14:3 clearly refers to Jesus returning during Armageddon to remake Earth for faithful Christians.
Once again you are wrong.
Get a good KJV Bible and learn to read it.
 
Looks like part of the doctrine more like cherry picking.

Living in a body of death under the letter of law "death" is the one appointment all make right on time. The former things will not be remembered or ever come to mind.

The death of death (thou shall not) with the suffering of hell. . . . dying.

We can rejoice yoked with his labor of love or called work of faith (Power to raise the powerless, faithless)
Whatever you mean.
 
I have been to heaven numerous times. I have seen plenty of people who have died from this earth go to heaven.

Where do your claims go when you meet eye-witnesses?
No one has gone to heaven - Jesus said so.
I'll believe Jesus before you.
All your experience were probably demonic possession fantasies.
 
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Dear Rxlx,
It is easy to make a statement, but without any scriptural support to substantiate it, one is merely making baseless claims. Since you imply that you know the truth, providing such support should be straightforward and would actually assist others in evaluating the accuracy of your comments.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><
OK. Here goes - but see how your fans will sneer at Bible truths:
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all .
Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts* do perish.”

All accounts of going to heaven are delusions put in human minds by Satan and his SEcond Gang of Fallen Angels to fool people.

And how about this lying statement: 'the 144,000 humans that have been selected to serve with Jesus Christ in the millennial reign, beginning with the 11 faithful Apostles, do go to heaven and are the only ones to do so. However they have to die first and then be resurrected in a spirit “body” in heaven, just as Jesus when he died on earth and was resurrected as a spirit in heaven before appearing in many different bodies here on earth after His resurrection.'
My Bible says the 144,000 are martyrs from many centuries who will be the first raised: There will be the resurrection of “the dead in Christ” at the Lord’s return (1 Thessalonians 4:16) and the resurrection of the martyrs at the end of the tribulation (Revelation 20:4)
 
So many people - especially Christians - have been brainwashed to believe they fly off to heaven or hell when they die despite Jesus and the Bible clearly saying no one does anything but die and all their thoughts perish.

All you people who claim soem has gone to heaven or hell are deluded an dneed to study the Bible to learn the truth.
What Bible Are You Reading????

1 Peter 1:4To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you.
Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Verses from KJV Authorized Version
 
So many people - especially Christians - have been brainwashed to believe they fly off to heaven or hell when they die despite Jesus and the Bible clearly saying no one does anything but die and all their thoughts perish.

All you people who claim soem has gone to heaven or hell are deluded an dneed to study the Bible to learn the truth.
Then why are you here? If you believe that everyone dies, why did Jesus die on the cross for sins if there was no purpose? 1 Corinthians 15:16-17 says, "For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins". You are cherrypicking the Old and New Testaments without understanding that the O/T was before Christ's birth, death, and resurrection. The first fruit of many who entered the Kingdom of Heaven. It was true that no one had gone into heaven except he who came from heaven, even Jesus Christ the messiah, but when he died, rose again, and ascended into heaven, he became the first fruit of the living.
 
Then why are you here? If you believe that everyone dies,
Oh my how Satan loves ignorant 'Christians' like you!
If you were able to read the Bible you might come across the fact that Jesus said one day all the dead will be resurrected - its called Judgment Day.
But I suppose you imagine you will fly off to heaven or hell when you die? That would be a miracle.

The fact that Mod Christ4ever agrees with you show how ignorant all you 'Christians' really are.
But you are a delight to cynical Satan.
 
From two translations: the 1611 KJV, and the 1989 Revised English Bible of the UK

"And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43 KJV)

"Jesus answered, ‘Truly I tell you: today you will be with me in Paradise.’" (Luke 23:43 REB)

"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." (2Cor 12:2-4 KJV)

"I know a Christian man who fourteen years ago (whether in the body or out of the body, I do not know—God knows) was caught up as far as the third heaven. And I know that this same man (whether in the body or apart from the body, I do not know—God knows) was caught up into paradise, and heard words so secret that human lips may not repeat them." (2Cor 12:2-4 REB)

Paradise and heaven are synonymous.
 
Oh my how Satan loves ignorant 'Christians' like you!
If you were able to read the Bible you might come across the fact that Jesus said one day all the dead will be resurrected - its called Judgment Day.
But I suppose you imagine you will fly off to heaven or hell when you die? That would be a miracle.

The fact that Mod Christ4ever agrees with you show how ignorant all you 'Christians' really are.
But you are a delight to cynical Satan.

Okay, Mr. "I know the Bible, and you don't.". John 11:23-26 Lazarus dies and was in the grave for 4 days. Jesus speaking to Mary says;
"Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

He said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believe this?"


Then he proceeds to call Lazarus from the grave, and he comes back to life.
 
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Okay, Mr. "I know the Bible, and you don't.". John 11:23-26 Lazarus dies and was in the grave for 4 days. Jesus speaking to Mary says;
"Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

He said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believe this?"


Then he proceeds to call Lazarus from the grave, and he comes back to life.
So presumably there is some point you are trying to make with the Lazarus account?
You saying miracles don't occur?
Incidentally John 11:23 confirms that no one goes to heaven or hell when they die although technically Jesusp opped inside Earth to tell SATAN's FIRST GANG OF FALLEN ANGELS THAT HE WAS IMMORTAL.
By the way I am female.
 
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So presumably there is some point you are trying to make with the Lazarus account?
You saying miracles don't occur?
Incidentally John 11:23 confirms that no one goes to heaven or hell when they die although technically Jesusp opped inside Earth to tell SATAN's FIRST GANG OF FALLEN ANGELS THAT HE WAS IMMORTAL.
By the way I am female.
No, it doesn't. What it says is, "Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again." Then he proceeds to raise him up because Jesus is the resurrection, and everyone who believes in him, although dead (already died), shall live; those who believe in him while alive still (like us) shall never die. This is because he was the first fruit of the living.

Jesus never had to tell Satan's army that he was immortal because death could not hold him down. The Bible tells us that the wages of sin are death. (Romans 6:23). They had no power over him because he did not sin. However, he became sin on our behalf.

2 Corinth: 5:2 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
 
Where is your "evidence", Bill?
It is called faith. I know what i experience.

I have tried to share here, but all you want are proofs. How can you prove faith when the Holy Spirit works in a person? If you do not or never met anyone else who has had those special moments of the Holy Spirit, how can i expect you to believe where faith is so weak.

You have good faith, Medic, but when God ( the Holy Spirit ) works in another, and seems so unbelievable, how can you learn to accept that experience? Especially when that experience is not listed in the bible? Does that mean the Holy Spirit can not do it?

Is you faith only limited to the teaching of the scripture? If so why? Doesn't Jesus tell us that he's going to send the paraclete, ( the Holy Spirit) to teach us the things that he hasn't? And if he hasn't taught us these things how are we to know that it is from the Lord in the first place? Because it's not in the scripture.

So if you're basing everything that you know I'm only the scripture then you're limiting yourself to what the scripture has to say and forgetting about what the Holy Spirit is willing to teach us that is beyond what the scripture has already

The scripture and Jesus are only the foundation. Jesus refers to himself as the Cornerstone. Not the whole building. And the scripture as the Apostle state is just to get us going.

I don't understand why so many Christians limit their thinking only to the scripture, because clearly Jesus and the apostles have both told us that this is not all there is. The apostles themselves stay that there was much more that was said by Jesus and they only put so much of it into word.

So why limit your faith?
 
Your a bot...
Well, I think that your a bot. How long have you been a member here, brother? However, I want to thank you for saying that because it means I am fast at replying and it also means I have a huge amount of knowledge in seconds, which is kind of cool so thank you :blush:
 
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