No one goes to heavan or hell.

[miracles]

Perhaps @In God We Trust! I should invite you to my forum since I am not as quick nor as knowledgeable as other members there.

 

[In God We Trust!]

Much luv

 

[MedicBravo]

It is called faith. I know what i experience.

I have tried to share here, but all you want are proofs. How can you prove faith when the Holy Spirit works in a person? If you do not or never met anyone else who has had those special moments of the Holy Spirit, how can i expect you to believe where faith is so weak.

You have good faith, Medic, but when God ( the Holy Spirit ) works in another, and seems so unbelievable, how can you learn to accept that experience? Especially when that experience is not listed in the bible? Does that mean the Holy Spirit can not do it?

Is you faith only limited to the teaching of the scripture? If so why? Doesn't Jesus tell us that he's going to send the paraclete, ( the Holy Spirit) to teach us the things that he hasn't? And if he hasn't taught us these things how are we to know that it is from the Lord in the first place? Because it's not in the scripture.

So if you're basing everything that you know I'm only the scripture then you're limiting yourself to what the scripture has to say and forgetting about what the Holy Spirit is willing to teach us that is beyond what the scripture has already

The scripture and Jesus are only the foundation. Jesus refers to himself as the Cornerstone. Not the whole building. And the scripture as the Apostle state is just to get us going.

I don't understand why so many Christians limit their thinking only to the scripture, because clearly Jesus and the apostles have both told us that this is not all there is. The apostles themselves stay that there was much more that was said by Jesus and they only put so much of it into word.

So why limit your faith?

No one gets a "trial" of Heaven or Hell.
How do you expect any of us to believe you? I don't have faith in you. That would be absurd.

 

[th1bill]

John 14:3 clearly refers to Jesus returning during Armageddon to remake Earth for faithful Christians.
Once again you are wrong.
Get a good KJV Bible and learn to read it.

And you need to learn to study in context because this verse is not a stand alone verse good to originate doctrine. Learn that there are no numbers in any of the sixty-six letters from Yehovah. Oh, try not to be a Pompass Ass and intelligent conversation can occur.
John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. KJV

 

[Rxlx]

No, it doesn't. What it says is, "Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again." Then he proceeds to raise him up because Jesus is the resurrection, and everyone who believes in him, although dead (already died), shall live; those who believe in him while alive still (like us) shall never die. This is because he was the first fruit of the living.

Jesus never had to tell Satan's army that he was immortal because death could not hold him down. The Bible tells us that the wages of sin are death. (Romans 6:23). They had no power over him because he did not sin. However, he became sin on our behalf.

2 Corinth: 5:2 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Once again you show your inability to read and understand.
Jesus popped inside Earth to tell the imprisoned first gang of fallen angels that Satan's plan had failed.
Here, I'll quote you the appropriate verse though you'll no doubt be unable to understand:

1 Peter 3:19 in whom He also went and preached ...​

After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— New Living Translation So he went and preached to the spirits in prison.
.................................
He could not have gone preaching to any other spirits as all the human dead are still in their graves.

 

[Bill]

Well, I think that your a bot. How long have you been a member here, brother? However, I want to thank you for saying that because it means I am fast at replying and it also means I have a huge amount of knowledge in seconds, which is kind of cool so thank you

Not a bot . Lol

 

[Bill]

No one gets a "trial" of Heaven or Hell.
How do you expect any of us to believe you? I don't have faith in you. That would be absurd.

Who said to put faith in me. (Where is the roll my eyes emojie)

You put your faith in God silly.

 

[Peter1]

What is this faith about?The bible tells us at the beginning is the fall of humanity - who caused the fall of humanity Satan and the fallen Angels - and yes you have to believe that its the cause of why you are in the position you are in..What were the results of what Satan had done - we cannot ascend to heaven in our fallen state and are in a sinful state the bible clearly tells us this.So Satan plunged all of humanity into a fallen state so there was no chance of a human souls entering heaven ever.They won they cast humanity down making them unclean and unworthy of God.The bible tells us Satan and fallen Angel have absolute hatred for us and will do anything to prevent us from having eternal life.

Now you know what happened or do you deny it.

God sent Jesus to save humanity you find your salvation in his death and resurrection - his sacrifice why he came - you can be resurrected in Christ and ascend to heaven and Jesus offers this gift freely to you.

Jesus raised his soul to heaven the first human soul to ever enter heaven and your soul can be raise in him its why he came.You cannot do it yourself.No human soul in the history of humanity can raise their soul to heaven only in Christ can that happen.What do you think salvation is?

Its how you are saved.

What do you think is being preached - Salvation by faith in the death and resurrection of Christ.

Rev 22

The River of Life

1 Then the angel showed me a river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the main street of the city. On either side of the river stood a tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit and yielding a fresh crop for each month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be within the city, and His servants will worship Him. 4 They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night in the city, and they will have no need for the light of a lamp or of the sun. For the Lord God will shine on them, and they will reign forever and ever.

Jesus Is Coming

6 Then the angel said to me, “These words are faithful and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent His angel to show His servants what must soon take place.”

7 “Behold, I am coming soon. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of prophecy in this book.”

8 And I am John, who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had shown me these things.9 But he said to me, “Do not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God!”

10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of prophecy in this book, because the time is near.11 Let the unrighteous continue to be unrighteous, and the vile continue to be vile; let the righteous continue to practice righteousness, and the holy continue to be holy.”

12 “Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done.13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates.15 But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star.”

17The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” Let the one who hears say, “Come!” And let the one who is thirsty come, and the one who desires the water of life drink freely.

Nothing May Be Added or Removed

18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.

20He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.

” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! Bring us the gift of eternal life.


What did you think this faith was about?

 

[Rxlx]

What is this faith about?The bible tells us at the beginning is the fall of humanity - who caused the fall of humanity Satan and the fallen Angels - and yes you have to believe that its the cause of why you are in the position you are in..What were the results of what Satan had done - we cannot ascend to heaven in our fallen state and are in a sinful state the bible clearly tells us this.So Satan plunged all of humanity into a fallen state so there was no chance of a human souls entering heaven ever.They won they cast humanity down making them unclean and unworthy of God.The bible tells us Satan and fallen Angel have absolute hatred for us and will do anything to prevent us from having eternal life.

Now you know what happened or do you deny it.

God sent Jesus to save humanity you find your salvation in his death and resurrection - his sacrifice why he came - you can be resurrected in Christ and ascend to heaven and Jesus offers this gift freely to you.

Jesus raised his soul to heaven the first human soul to ever enter heaven and your soul can be raise in him its why he came.You cannot do it yourself.No human soul in the history of humanity can raise their soul to heaven only in Christ can that happen.What do you think salvation is?

Its how you are saved.

What do you think is being preached - Salvation by faith in the death and resurrection of Christ.

Rev 22

The River of Life

1 Then the angel showed me a river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the main street of the city. On either side of the river stood a tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit and yielding a fresh crop for each month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be within the city, and His servants will worship Him. 4 They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night in the city, and they will have no need for the light of a lamp or of the sun. For the Lord God will shine on them, and they will reign forever and ever.

Jesus Is Coming

6 Then the angel said to me, “These words are faithful and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent His angel to show His servants what must soon take place.”

7 “Behold, I am coming soon. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of prophecy in this book.”

8 And I am John, who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had shown me these things.9 But he said to me, “Do not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God!”

10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of prophecy in this book, because the time is near.11 Let the unrighteous continue to be unrighteous, and the vile continue to be vile; let the righteous continue to practice righteousness, and the holy continue to be holy.”

12 “Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done.13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates.15 But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star.”

17The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” Let the one who hears say, “Come!” And let the one who is thirsty come, and the one who desires the water of life drink freely.

Nothing May Be Added or Removed

18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.

20He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.

” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! Bring us the gift of eternal life.


What did you think this faith was about?

Don't bother trying to reason with Old Bill. He's sold his soul to Satan.

 

[Peter1]

The other thing that must be believed by Christians is that Man is not a produce of evolution everything else can be but not man - man is a created being he is not a product of evolution.If you believe man is the product of evolution then how can you believe anything in the bible or this faith.

 

[Garee]

Once again you show your inability to read and understand.
Jesus popped inside Earth to tell the imprisoned first gang of fallen angels that Satan's plan had failed.
Here, I'll quote you the appropriate verse though you'll no doubt be unable to understand:

1 Peter 3:19 in whom He also went and preached ...​

After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— New Living Translation So he went and preached to the spirits in prison.
.................................
He could not have gone preaching to any other spirits as all the human dead are still in their graves.

He preached to them beforehand of the coming suffering

They like us freely received the end of salvation from the beginning, The new- born again soul. . a new desire to serve a God not seen.

1 Peter 1:7012 That the trial of your( new born again faith), being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your (new born again) faith, even the salvation of your souls.;Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

The vail representing circumcision of a bloody suffering husband Christ it is shown in a parable with Zipporah the priestess .God would of killed the second born Gershom (stranger there)

Zipporah with Gershom. likened with or to Abraham and Issac. . . . rescued the lamb of God.

Christ Bloody husband, not a popular use today.


Exodus 4:24;28And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him.;Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.;So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

 

[miracles]

Once again you show your inability to read and understand.
Jesus popped inside Earth to tell the imprisoned first gang of fallen angels that Satan's plan had failed.
Here, I'll quote you the appropriate verse though you'll no doubt be unable to understand:

1 Peter 3:19 in whom He also went and preached ...​

After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— New Living Translation So he went and preached to the spirits in prison.
.................................
He could not have gone preaching to any other spirits as all the human dead are still in their graves.

You are clearly a troll and a bored one at that and yes, I know that scripture well; however, you said, "Jesusp opped inside Earth to tell SATAN's FIRST GANG OF FALLEN ANGELS THAT HE WAS IMMORTAL." and I replied:

Jesus never had to tell Satan's army that he was immortal because death could not hold him down. The Bible tells us that the wages of sin are death. (Romans 6:23). They had no power over him because he did not sin. However, he became sin on our behalf.

2 Corinth: 5:2 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Please follow long. Clearly a strawman's argument.

 

[Rxlx]

You are clearly a troll and a bored one at that and yes, I know that scripture well; however, you said, "Jesusp opped inside Earth to tell SATAN's FIRST GANG OF FALLEN ANGELS THAT HE WAS IMMORTAL." and I replied:


Please follow long. Clearly a strawman's argument.

You are clearly a troll and a bored one at that.

I correctly wrote "Jesus popped inside Earth to tell SATAN's FIRST GANG OF FALLEN ANGELS THAT HE WAS IMMORTAL."
but because you cannot read and understand the Bible you show your immaturity.
Jesus is immortal but I guess a troll like you disputes that.
You are quite the uneducated pain in the whatsit.

 

[Rxlx]

He preached to them beforehand of the coming suffering

They like us freely received the end of salvation from the beginning, The new- born again soul. . a new desire to serve a God not seen.

1 Peter 1:7012 That the trial of your( new born again faith), being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your (new born again) faith, even the salvation of your souls.;Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

The vail representing circumcision of a bloody suffering husband Christ it is shown in a parable with Zipporah the priestess .God would of killed the second born Gershom (stranger there)

Zipporah with Gershom. likened with or to Abraham and Issac. . . . rescued the lamb of God.

Christ Bloody husband, not a popular use today.


Exodus 4:24;28And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him.;Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.;So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

Trolling about circumcision in a post about Jesus going to give bad news to the fallen angels during the days when he was absent from his body?
How your tiny minds work is a gift to Satan.

 

[miracles]

You are clearly a troll and a bored one at that.

I correctly wrote "Jesus popped inside Earth to tell SATAN's FIRST GANG OF FALLEN ANGELS THAT HE WAS IMMORTAL."
but because you cannot read and understand the Bible you show your immaturity.
Jesus is immortal but I guess a troll like you disputes that.
You are quite the uneducated pain in the whatsit.

Surely you can do better than this troller girl? Come on! Instead of sticking to the issue, you have resorted to ad' hominem?

"Jesus popped inside Earth to tell Satan's FIRST GANG OF FALLEN ANGELS THAT HE WAS IMMORTAL."

No, he didn't, and saying this over and over again does not make it true. Lol!

 

[Butch5]

So many people - especially Christians - have been brainwashed to believe they fly off to heaven or hell when they die despite Jesus and the Bible clearly saying no one does anything but die and all their thoughts perish.

All you people who claim soem has gone to heaven or hell are deluded an dneed to study the Bible to learn the truth.

While I agree with your statement that people don't go to Heaven or Hell, your approach is not helpful. Think about that old saying, "you get more flies with honey than with vinegar." Rather than calling people names, which actually hurts your cause, you should engage as with brothers and sisters.

 

[Bill]

Is Paradise heaven?

In response to the Thief hanging on the cross, Jesus says to him today you'll be with me in Paradise?

Why wasn't the other thief invited to Paradise?

 

[Rxlx]

While I agree with your statement that people don't go to Heaven or Hell, your approach is not helpful. Think about that old saying, "you get more flies with honey than with vinegar." Rather than calling people names, which actually hurts your cause, you should engage as with brothers and sisters.

Jesus said to preach the gospel once and if they won't listen and accept the truth just shake theeir dust off and let the go to a fate worse than death.
It's Matthew 1o:14 though you'll never hear a preacher preach it.
But tell me: why do you think they all reject sound Bible teachings

 

[Rxlx]

Surely you can do better than this troller girl? Come on! Instead of sticking to the issue, you have resorted to ad' hominem?


No, he didn't, and saying this over and over again does not make it true. Lol!

So now you are calling the Bible a lie? Your hero Satan is delighted with you.
1 Peetr 3:19 He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit, 19in whom He also went and preached to the spirits in prison 20who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.

Like I say repeatedly - you are too immature to read and understand the written word.
But calling Peter a liar is another new low for you.

And you're calling me a troll is sheer stupidity as you are the troller.

 

[Garee]

Trolling about circumcision in a post about Jesus going to give bad news to the fallen angels during the days when he was absent from his body?
How your tiny minds work is a gift to Satan.

LOL You're funny

Bloody husband Christ. The vail remains torn from the top to the bottom by the finger of the Father.

Fallen angels??? Simply dying humans

No such creation of invisible spirit that can shift change into mankind dying flesh and blood.

Sound like you have been listening to the kings of lying signs to wonder, wonder, marvel after as if true prophecy

God is still sending a strong delusion to those who seek after lying signs rather than prophecy (sola scriptura)

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders .And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: