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Police arrest with force 71 year old preacher reading out of Bible

He never preached the true gospel that inspired the apostles and disciples of the first century.
Thank God that our Pentecostal church still does.


You Do realize that there churches besides the Pentecostal churches that preach / teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ unto salvation. There are going to be Baptists in heaven as well. :) (I'm conservative Baptist)

There is but One True Gospel. That which is presented in God's Word - both back Then and Now.
 
Surely it would be better to take the opportunity to proclaim Jesus Christ, crucified, risen and Lord of all - rather than stir up the general public with a debate about sexuality.
We do not know what this man was preaching from just watching the video. It only shows his arrest.
Much presumption here that the 71 year old was at fault. He may well of been preaching the gospel and went on to point out the differences between God's moral law and what is acceptable in today's society.
Attacking the preacher for being "wrong" misses the point of the issue at hand - how is it in a parliamentary liberal democracy there is no free speech?
Why is reading from your Bible now a hate crime? Why are the police involved?
 
Greetings Andy

May I ask, which one preached like John the Baptist?

If you think the first one, does that make John the Baptist's approach wrong.

I understand what you are saying, I then ask myself WWJD, WWJS?

There are many examples of how Jesus preached, that was bold and to the point.

Was Jesus wrong also?

How many times did Jesus say,
'you wicked and adulterous generation.

What would he say today,
'you wicked and LGBTQ generation.'
Or
'you wicked and sodomite generation.'

As the days of Noah were.....

Shalom

Hi Paul,

I could quote relevant verses but I don't feel that I need to because we both know them.

Jesus's approach to people in the gospels differed remarkedly, dependant upon their situation, attitude, background, societal position, education and a number of other factors. He was really quite hostile towards the Saducees (a heretical sect that denied the existence of Heaven, Hell and the afterlife), next the scribes (interpreters of the law) then the Pharisees (the religious hierarchy) and so on. At the other end of the scale, the poor, widows, disabled, Roman soldiers and those that seemed to get His highest esteem, the hated and societal outcasts, the Samaritans.

John's and Jesus's vitriol, the sermons you quote were not sermons as such but dressings down and admonitions to those at the top of my list, odious leaders who drew a handsome salary and enjoyed fringe benefits but as far as leadership was concerned, they were stumbling blocks, turning people off the path of righteousness burdening them with laws, traditions and customs that were unnecessarily harsh and off-putting. Can you see a similarity with some of the really harsh comments that have been expressed in this thread?

Some in the church put theology and dogma ahead of winning souls and defeating Satan. It's as if lost souls are just collateral damage, what matters more is that we express our abhorrence and disgust at their very nature rather than reaching out and drawing them into Jesus's salvation.

But to answer your question Paul, I've had the privilege of going to several evangelical outreach rallies, I'm pretty sure that none of the evangelists speaking opened their sermon with words like:
'You wicked and adulterous generation.'

When John and Jesus spoke like that, they weren't preaching to win souls, their audiences hearts were too hard and set in their ways to be won over: no, they were giving a public dressing down of authority, warning people not to follow them but rather seek God direct, via Jesus.
 
We do not know what this man was preaching from just watching the video. It only shows his arrest.
Much presumption here that the 71 year old was at fault. He may well of been preaching the gospel and went on to point out the differences between God's moral law and what is acceptable in today's society.
Attacking the preacher for being "wrong" misses the point of the issue at hand - how is it in a parliamentary liberal democracy there is no free speech?
Why is reading from your Bible now a hate crime? Why are the police involved?
It's a mess. The police handled it very badly, I'm sure he wasn't breaking the law, and even if he was there's better ways to handle the situation than arrest.

At the same time i believe the preacher misjudged the message for his audience.
 
Hi Gregory,

Please, please, drop the dogma and try to look at this from God's perspective.

Unlike us, God is fully aware of what happens to those poor unfortunates that reject Jesus's salvation. The Bible, written in English cannot adequately describe the horrors of that place. We're given a brief partial insight by Jesus -
In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ Luke 16:23-24. God absolutely loved each one of them, He sent His son to die for him and he/she just turned Jesus away: what a waste. So does God think, ha - you made your bed, lie in it! Not a bit, God grieves for each and every one of them. 2 Peter 3:9. God's love is unending, without width or length.

So please drop the rules and regulations, they are Old Testament. New Testament, we're given tips and hints on how to please and delight the God we adore and what to avoid to incur His displeasure and wrath, all of which is totally irrelevant if you don't know Him.

Please, give me an example of a New Testament sermon that starts and finishes with the crowd's sin. There are many in the Old Testament but none in the New. Why's that? The Old is about the Law, the New is about grace and God's love and invitation to us all. For a heart warming example look at John 4:4-42, the story of the woman at the well. This was a totally life changing encounter that started with an invitation. Had Jesus started the conversation by condemning her colourful love life, I think there'd have been a different outcome.

When you're preaching or witnessing to the unconverted, what's the desired outcome? All I'm saying is drop your prejudices and work towards that - there's so much at stake.
this sounds like it is taken out of the book of hillsong and the new age church. To worship and follow Jesus takes great courage, fortitude and a total life change. Anything less will exclude you being recorded in the book of life, repent from your sin and perish, or you will surely die.
 
Hi Paul,

I could quote relevant verses but I don't feel that I need to because we both know them.

Jesus's approach to people in the gospels differed remarkedly, dependant upon their situation, attitude, background, societal position, education and a number of other factors. He was really quite hostile towards the Saducees (a heretical sect that denied the existence of Heaven, Hell and the afterlife), next the scribes (interpreters of the law) then the Pharisees (the religious hierarchy) and so on. At the other end of the scale, the poor, widows, disabled, Roman soldiers and those that seemed to get His highest esteem, the hated and societal outcasts, the Samaritans.

John's and Jesus's vitriol, the sermons you quote were not sermons as such but dressings down and admonitions to those at the top of my list, odious leaders who drew a handsome salary and enjoyed fringe benefits but as far as leadership was concerned, they were stumbling blocks, turning people off the path of righteousness burdening them with laws, traditions and customs that were unnecessarily harsh and off-putting. Can you see a similarity with some of the really harsh comments that have been expressed in this thread?

Some in the church put theology and dogma ahead of winning souls and defeating Satan. It's as if lost souls are just collateral damage, what matters more is that we express our abhorrence and disgust at their very nature rather than reaching out and drawing them into Jesus's salvation.

But to answer your question Paul, I've had the privilege of going to several evangelical outreach rallies, I'm pretty sure that none of the evangelists speaking opened their sermon with words like:
'You wicked and adulterous generation.'

When John and Jesus spoke like that, they weren't preaching to win souls, their audiences hearts were too hard and set in their ways to be won over: no, they were giving a public dressing down of authority, warning people not to follow them but rather seek God direct, via Jesus.


Hi Andy

Nice to chat and discuss this and not get answers as if from a Sunday School teacher, it does happen.

I do agree with what you are saying brother, there is just one comment from the above.

Understandably the preacher at a outreach will not use the words 'You wicked and adulterous generation', the majority of people listening are not as John put it. The Brood and Vipers.

Regarding the video, as said earlier, there were no subtitles, being considerably deaf I could not hear the video, so cannot speak directly regarding the video, only reply to comments.

I do believe there is a time and place for everything, now it could be as some have since said, he was directly targeting the LGBTQ for their sinful actions. If that was so and as I say I cannot comment because I cannot watch and hear the video, then more tact is definitely needed.

As we both know Andy, some are treating homosexuality, lesbianism as worse than other sins, I understand that, as we know from Sodom, God treated it so. But, if we hit with a big stick we are more likely to be hit back with another big stick. The world do not see it as sin, they don't accept sin, to preach different levels of sin is like throwing when the wind is in your face, you going to get some of what you throw back. Taking the point that those of the world do not accept LGBTQ actions do not accept things as sin, to me it seems better to explain, any sexual activity outside the marriage of a man and woman is a sinful act, it is against God's will for mankind. This includes, sex before marriage, adultery, or any other form of sex outside the marriage bed of a man and woman. The truth is there, the points are made, some unbelievers in such acts may wave a big stick but are less likely to clobber someone for it. The most important message though is sins can be forgiven, Christ died for their sins, he paid the price they/we should pay, so that we do not have to. God will forgive anyone who comes to him through Jesus with a truly repentant heart. Which as we know means being truly sorry and choosing the right path to go and sin no more.

Bless you
 
The reason the alphabet community is being targeted is because they have made themselves the poster people of all sin and inequity. Its it the main cause satan is using to cheat people out of their inheritance Yes their are other causes that need targeting, but this one has the highest profile. (gay parades, rainbow posters and bumper stickers, men walking down the street holding hands, school children taught its ok to be gay etc)
 
Hi Andy

Nice to chat and discuss this and not get answers as if from a Sunday School teacher, it does happen.

I do agree with what you are saying brother, there is just one comment from the above.

Understandably the preacher at a outreach will not use the words 'You wicked and adulterous generation', the majority of people listening are not as John put it. The Brood and Vipers.

Regarding the video, as said earlier, there were no subtitles, being considerably deaf I could not hear the video, so cannot speak directly regarding the video, only reply to comments.

I do believe there is a time and place for everything, now it could be as some have since said, he was directly targeting the LGBTQ for their sinful actions. If that was so and as I say I cannot comment because I cannot watch and hear the video, then more tact is definitely needed.

As we both know Andy, some are treating homosexuality, lesbianism as worse than other sins, I understand that, as we know from Sodom, God treated it so. But, if we hit with a big stick we are more likely to be hit back with another big stick. The world do not see it as sin, they don't accept sin, to preach different levels of sin is like throwing when the wind is in your face, you going to get some of what you throw back. Taking the point that those of the world do not accept LGBTQ actions do not accept things as sin, to me it seems better to explain, any sexual activity outside the marriage of a man and woman is a sinful act, it is against God's will for mankind. This includes, sex before marriage, adultery, or any other form of sex outside the marriage bed of a man and woman. The truth is there, the points are made, some unbelievers in such acts may wave a big stick but are less likely to clobber someone for it. The most important message though is sins can be forgiven, Christ died for their sins, he paid the price they/we should pay, so that we do not have to. God will forgive anyone who comes to him through Jesus with a truly repentant heart. Which as we know means being truly sorry and choosing the right path to go and sin no more.

Bless you
 
What is being missed here by most of you posting is the issue of WHY is this man being arrested in the so-called free West that is governed by human rights and even has a Human Rights Court in the Hague.
It matters not whether this old man preached well with grace, or whether he preached badly accusing worldly people of sins - what matters is that he got arrested at all.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights adopted by the U.N. on 10th December 1948
Article 2
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property,
birth or other status. ...
Article 18
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion
or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 19
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

So how can the government of the U.K. and the British police violate this man's human rights under the above U.N. declared articles to which the U.K. is a signatory to, and obliged to have laws to effect these human rights?
 
NEWSWEEK - Friday 7th May 2021
Pastor Arrested After Sermon on Marriage, Police Cite Complaints of 'Homophobic Comments'
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 5/2/21 AT 10:16 AM EDT

A71-year-old pastor of a north London church was arrested on April 23rd under the United Kingdom's Public Order Act for allegedly making "homophobic comments" during a public sermon, video shows.
At least one United Kingdom-based group, Christian Concern, which defends people of faith, described the incident as a "brutal arrest" that sets a bad precedent for religious freedom of speech throughout the country.
But local police said they'd received numerous complaints that Sherwood had been making bigoted remarks directed toward gay people, which the anonymous caller described as abusive or insulting words.
A now-viral video recording of the arrest shows Sherwood standing on a step stool in the Uxbridge, London, public square before police approach and appear to physically strike him as he's led away in handcuffs.
Sherwood, a pastor for 35 years, has adamantly denied that he was making any remarks which targeted gay people specifically.
But he told a podcast host Thursday that he was preaching about the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman at the time of his arrest.
 
71-year-old pastor arrested for telling congregants that God created only 2 genders (video)
ANDREAS KAMASAH April 29, 2021 11:40 AM --- Pulse.com.gh

An elderly pastor, 71 was arrested by police and accused of 'homophobic statements' after he preached from the book of Genesis in the Bible, saying God created only two genders and wanted families
to be headed by a 'father and a mother'
The man of God was addressing a crowd outside Uxbridge Station in West London when two police officers stormed the ground and ordered him to descend from the podium. He was pulled down by the officers
when he refused to descend.
His preaching was against homosexuality and how God it deviates from God's original plan for creating the world and humans.
Dailymail.co.uk reported police as saying that they had received complaints the man had been making 'allegedly homophobic comments'. They arrested him without charge under the Public Order Act,
which can be used against someone for using 'abusive or insulting words' that cause 'harm' to someone else.
Explaining what necessitated the arrest of the preacher, Met Police spokesman said: “At 1.35pm on Friday, April 23, officers on patrol were flagged down by a member of the public who made them aware of a man
allegedly making homophobic comments close to Uxbridge Underground Station.
“A number of other people also approached the officers with concerns about the man's language. “Officers spoke with the 71-year-old man and he was subsequently arrested on suspicion of an offence under
Section 5 of the Public Order Act. “He was taken to a west London police station and later released under investigation.
“A file has been passed to the Crown Prosecution Service for review and consideration.
“The Met's Directorate of Professional Standards [DPS] have since assessed the footage and found no indication of misconduct. The arrest will not be subject to a full DPS review.”

The preacher’s supporters took to a Christian Facebook page to condemn his arrest which they thought was arbitrary.
“Whilst he was preaching, he expounded the final verses of Genesis 1, declaring that God's purpose in creating mankind was to set human beings in families, headed by a father and a mother, not by two fathers, or by two mothers.
“The distinction within mankind of just two genders, male and female, made in the image of God, constitutes the essence of God's created order.

“Police officer also spoke to [a second pastor] about homophobic speech.
“The minister explained that to uphold God's moral law and speak about the dangers of sin in respect of LGBT issues implies absolutely no hatred or unpleasantness towards any individual or group of people.
“Nevertheless, the Bible's condemnation of homosexuality is plain.
“To this the policeman responded that some matters simply cannot be referred to in public places, implying that homosexuality is one of them.
“The officer also stated that there is no freedom to make statements in public which offend people. [how come that is never applied the other way around??]
“[The second pastor] responded that the Police would have no objection whatsoever to a Pride parade being held in Uxbridge, yet that is highly offensive to Bible-believing Christians.
“This arrest of a faithful preacher for doing nothing other than declaring what the Bible teaches about one of the important moral issues of our time reveals a dangerous assault taking place in modern Britain upon freedom of speech,
and not least, upon the freedom of Christian pastors to proclaim in public all that the Bible teaches (see Acts 20:27),” the statement read.
 
This short Sky News video is of the arrest of a 71 year old preacher who was reading out from his Bible about doctrine on Christian marriage
Persons of the alphabet population complained and rang British police to make a complaint of hate speech
They arrived and arrested the preacher for speaking Biblical doctrine in public

We are in th
Seriously. I grieve at the lack of true followers of Christ, so damn frustrating.
Why do you grieve Gregory, we're in the last days, scripture prophesies a falling away, and that's what we are witnessing. We should be praising God that his word is true
 
Why do you grieve Gregory, we're in the last days, scripture prophesies a falling away, and that's what we are witnessing. We should be praising God that his word is true
You are not wrong there brother
2Timothy 3:
3 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of stress. 2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 inhuman, implacable,
slanderers, profligates, fierce, haters of good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding the form of religion but denying the power of it. Avoid such people.
 
Before it is all over, the approach that christians are addressing the "LBGTQ"Community is going to lead them to achieve a "Religious" Community Status.
Mark my words. and then it shall be recognizable by "The Constitution of United States of America". "The hand writing is on The Wall" that a blind man can see. I have proclaim and warn many, that " The church has Fallen asleep in the Light" and is sleeping liken the sleep, of a "Rip Van Winkle" who slept, through a great "revolution".
 
You are not wrong there brother
2Timothy 3:
3 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of stress. 2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 inhuman, implacable,
slanderers, profligates, fierce, haters of good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding the form of religion but denying the power of it. Avoid such people.
And "Waggles' you must always remember the world has always been this way, which is proclaim in the 2nd letter to Timothy, But the falling away is the "Church", How can you fallen away from somewhere you have Never been! The church has fallen so far and long, it cannot discern, Light from dark, right from wrong, The sweet from The Bitter. It has been toss to and from with every wind and doctrine and :

(Isaiah 24)NLT
20The earth staggers like a drunk.:eyes:
It trembles like a tent in a storm.
It falls and will not rise again,
for the guilt of its rebellion is very heavy.

21In that day the LORD will punish the gods in the heavens:eyes:
and the proud rulers of the nations on earth.:eyes:

22They will be rounded up and put in prison.
They will be shut up in prison
and will finally be punished.:eyes:


Like my Grand daddy use to say: "you can put that in your Pipe and smoke it"
 

Hi Gregory,

Reflecting over my past years, I've crossed swords with more than a few people in my lifetime but I can't honestly say that any of my disputes with colleagues, neighbours, employers, authorities and every day guys in the street were about my faith. Yes, I've had many discussions with people of other faiths and unbelievers about my faith but none of them descended into an atmosphere of hate or hostility. Maybe I've just been fortunate but in my experience I don't detect widespread antagonism or hostility towards Christianity in the UK; no it's much worse than that, most people are totally ambivalent towards the gospel message. The most common response is that church and Christianity, are boring. If Bible prophesies are correct that will change. That said I'm sure that many Christians in western countries have had unfortunate and unpleasant encounters, but they're not every day events that our poor dear brothers and sisters suffer in many parts of Africa, former communist States, Muslim majority and many other countries. BTW it should be said that the church is growing at a rate of knots in these countries.

Back to the situation in the West, look again at the video posted by OP. The newscasters, I don't know if they are Christian or not, most likely not, but they were outraged that the pastor was being silenced by an officer of the state; an affrontary upon free speech. Does everyone hate us? Is there widespread hostility towards Christians in the UK? In all honesty, that's not been my experience.

However IMO Christians who preach a gospel of hate will meet with hostility. Some dress it up as 'love the sinner, hate the sin', not a Scriptural concept at all. But if anyone stands on a soapbox proclaiming that any section of society are somehow inferior, whether Muslim, black, gay, communist or anything else; right thinking people will react with disdain and hostility. That's across the board and so it can't be labelled as Christian persecution.

Let's rewind 2000 years. Treating underclasses with disdain, keeping them at arms length or avoiding them altogether was mainstream. Underclasses - widows, tax collectors, prostitutes, Samaritans, even Gentiles. Religious leaders were right at the front and cherished this system. Then came Jesus who welcomed and reached out to every single one of those categories, worse than that He challenged the authorities head on about their ice cold hearts, absence of empathy and doggedly clinging to traditions, customs and the law as justification of their really hateful ideology.

On the gay question, I see many similarities with Christians who've hardened their hearts against God with a Phariseeacle attitude towards gays and even the black community. Now before you launch an attack on me, let me clarify once again, I am NOT saying that God is fine with gay sex but what I am saying is that it's not the gay unbeliever's sexuality that's keeping him out of the kingdom of God, rather it's his failure to repent of ALL of his sin and accept Jesus's invitation of salvation. Put another way, if a gay man ditches his boyfriend and gets himself a girlfriend: is he any closer to God?

For the believer a different set of principles apply. Gay sex is a no no. The gay Christian is asked to remain celibate, a huge ask that I'm sure that God will reward with a crown so dazzling that the rest of us'll need sunglasses just to look at it! Brother Paul rightly points out that sex sins are more destructive than regular sins -
Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body. 1 Corinthians 6:18. But what has that got to do with non-believers?
 
Hi Andy

Nice to chat and discuss this and not get answers as if from a Sunday School teacher, it does happen.

I do agree with what you are saying brother, there is just one comment from the above.

Understandably the preacher at a outreach will not use the words 'You wicked and adulterous generation', the majority of people listening are not as John put it. The Brood and Vipers.

Regarding the video, as said earlier, there were no subtitles, being considerably deaf I could not hear the video, so cannot speak directly regarding the video, only reply to comments.

I do believe there is a time and place for everything, now it could be as some have since said, he was directly targeting the LGBTQ for their sinful actions. If that was so and as I say I cannot comment because I cannot watch and hear the video, then more tact is definitely needed.

As we both know Andy, some are treating homosexuality, lesbianism as worse than other sins, I understand that, as we know from Sodom, God treated it so. But, if we hit with a big stick we are more likely to be hit back with another big stick. The world do not see it as sin, they don't accept sin, to preach different levels of sin is like throwing when the wind is in your face, you going to get some of what you throw back. Taking the point that those of the world do not accept LGBTQ actions do not accept things as sin, to me it seems better to explain, any sexual activity outside the marriage of a man and woman is a sinful act, it is against God's will for mankind. This includes, sex before marriage, adultery, or any other form of sex outside the marriage bed of a man and woman. The truth is there, the points are made, some unbelievers in such acts may wave a big stick but are less likely to clobber someone for it. The most important message though is sins can be forgiven, Christ died for their sins, he paid the price they/we should pay, so that we do not have to. God will forgive anyone who comes to him through Jesus with a truly repentant heart. Which as we know means being truly sorry and choosing the right path to go and sin no more.

Bless you

Hi Paul,

I used to be a Sunday school teacher, maybe it's worn off lol.

IMO LBTQ, BLM and Me To are movements born out of prejudice and mistreatment. It grieves and upsets me when I hear Christians aligning themselves with attitudes stemming from this mistreatment. This is not God's will, our God loves literally everyone with a perfect and total love, were that not the case He wouldn't have sent His son to die for us -
You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:6‭-‬8 NIV

I don't think that any of these movements are our enemies, but even if they are Jesus tells us to love our enemies -
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:43‭-‬48 NIV

Purely on a technicality, there's a view that it was Sodom's interest in sex with heavenly beings that warranted their destruction -
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:6‭-‬7 NKJV. Similarly with pre the flood -
There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4.

God bless and I do hope you're having a lovely weekend.
 
IMO LBTQ, BLM and Me To are movements born out of prejudice and mistreatment. It grieves and upsets me when I hear Christians aligning themselves with attitudes stemming from this mistreatment. This is not God's will, our God loves literally everyone with a perfect and total love, were that not the case He wouldn't have sent His son to die for us -
You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:6‭-‬8 NIV

I don't think that any of these movements are our enemies, but even if they are Jesus tells us to love our enemies -


Hi Andy

I agree, none of them are our enemies, all human flesh is one type. The issue is SIN, not the person.

It is not a matter, for us, which sin is worst, all sexual sins are SIN.

But as we know from scripture, women were stoned to death for adultery.

I would love to know what Jesus wrote in the sand when they tried to trick him with the woman caught in the act. What ever it wasa it made the men depart quickly, one by one, oldest first and down to the youngest.

The finger of God was showing its wrath through Jesus.
 
I am not surprised to see this sentiment here, a watered down version of sin. Repentance is the key here, and these groups you mention are marketing the gay movement, encouraging others to join their fraternity. Its also idolatary what they are doing. Jesus preached repentance from sin. Not to appease man, but to set mother against daughter, father against son. Your either for Jesus, or your for the world, your choice.
 
Hi Andy

I agree, none of them are our enemies, all human flesh is one type. The issue is SIN, not the person.

It is not a matter, for us, which sin is worst, all sexual sins are SIN.

But as we know from scripture, women were stoned to death for adultery.

I would love to know what Jesus wrote in the sand when they tried to trick him with the woman caught in the act. What ever it wasa it made the men depart quickly, one by one, oldest first and down to the youngest.

The finger of God was showing its wrath through Jesus.
"I would love to know what Jesus wrote in the sand when they tried to trick him with the woman caught in the act. What ever it wasa it made the men depart quickly, one by one, oldest first and down to the youngest."

Maybe he wrote down their names, dates, and events that took place in the back room at "The Good O'Boys Club":eyes: and at the same time, Jesus step into His Divinity, gave them a "wave" of 'Guilt', of what they have done and Had done!:eyes: One of those "MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN" "BIBLICAL MOTIF" , "THE HAND WRITING ON THE WALL", "Fuel by GOD".:eyes:.

You must remember, Jesus is their "Creator":joy: He sways the hearts of mankind, any direction he wants, who can resists Him!

Berean Study Bible
A man’s heart plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps.

PS GOD will have you tell on yourself, and suffer The consequence. You better read your "Bible again":eyes: Brother-Paul you know I ain't lying. LOL!

"Truth Serum" has been around a long time.

The world might not know it, but "We do". That is why 'we do not what they doooo', if they knew what we knew, they would do do too!:joy:
 
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