Prophetic Standards Statement

[Bill]

Really, LOL! The "Institutionalize church does not cease to amaze me" Especially the "Protestants" collection of "little popes" bishop, cardinals and apostles. And the "high hierarchy" continues in the form of "types and shadows" improving on things above which is written. Pertaining to the commonwealth of the "common" True "Children of The Living GOD". for "Yeshua Hamashiach" it seems not to be enough. For we know that "Sheep" are very smart animals, and they know the voice of "Their Shepherd" and the voice of another, They will not follow. And this is a "Indicative" statement BY the "SON of the Almighty GOD",
(John).
1“Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever does not enter the sheepfold by the gate, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2But the one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen for his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will flee from him because they do not recognize his voice.”

6Jesus spoke to them using this illustration, but they did not understand what He was telling them.7So He said to them again, “Truly, truly, I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8All who came before Me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I have come that they may have life, and have it in all its fullness.

11I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. 12The hired hand is not the shepherd, and the sheep are not his own. When he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf pounces on them and scatters the flock. 13The man runs away because he is a hired servant and is unconcerned for the sheep.

14I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me, 15just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father. And I lay down My life for the sheep. 16I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd.

PS.
25“I already told you,” Jesus replied, “but you did not believe. The works I do in My Father’s name testify on My behalf. 26But because you are not My sheep, you refuse to believe. 27My sheep listen to My VOICE; I know them, and they follow Me. 28I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.
Most christians do not believe what is written above.


Finally, my brothers and sisters, they will explain this away too!:

(Hebrews 1)BSB
1On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. 2But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.

3The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding ALL THINGS by His powerful word. AFTER He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. 4So He became as far superior to the angels as the name He has inherited is excellent beyond theirs. 5For to which of the angels did God EVER SAY?

“You are My Son;

today I have become Your Father”c?

FOR SOME, this is what you call, a form of "Pre-Calculus" [Anthropomorphically]

Why must I make these type of "biblically statements" that seems out the box? Because, many have been lead into the "avenue" of having more faith in the "creature" than the "Creator" who is "The WORD of GOD". as if the "WORD of GOD" has become short and cannot be "Trusted". Mankind presents "the gospel of successfulness, But The GOSPEL According to "Yeshua Hamashiach" is a Call unto "Faithfulness" to TRUST "The Truth". That is a Sacrificial Life, That one must deny himself. Until our "coronation", there are no kings or queens, but bond slaves, purchase, bought by the blood of Jesus. Not even servants but slaves. Not our will, but everything according to HIS will, You ain't got a will, He speaks you obey, and when you do what is demanded of you, He does not say "thank you"! " Why call me LORD LORD and do nothing I say!" Somebody is lying. Judas said: is it me? after that, each one.

Especially For the sheep tenders and the Goat Herders:
(Luke 17)BSB Jesus said:
7“Now which of you, having a slave plowing or tending sheep, will say to him after he comes in from the field, ‘Come immediately and recline at the table to eat’? 8On the contrary, will he not say to him, ‘Prepare something for me to eat, and properly clothe yourself and serve me while I eat and drink; and [afterward you may eat and drink’? 9He does not thank the slave because he did the things which were commanded, does he? 10So you too, when you do all the things which were commanded you, say, ‘We are unworthy slaves; we have done only that which we ought to have done.’”

So wives, be a slave not a queen, husbands be a slave, and not king, do what your "Master told you to do" looking for nothing in return,

How you like that "Prophecy" until we become a Kingdom of Kings and Priest"

Part 1.

I really love reading you brother . So right on

 

[Hekuran]

Specifically on the two witnesses described in Revelation 11 - it's a very mysterious passage. Good people interpret it in very different ways. I'm not confident to put forward my own u understanding of it. Only to say that being hated and persecuted and killed would not contradict anything in the prophetic standards statement.

I take this statement as something wise and helpful rather than definitive. So a person that claims to be a prophet, but strayed from the standard set out here, I would be cautious about. But not necessarily reject outright.

It's just a good set of standards and questions to aid discernment.

 

[Bill]

Specifically on the two witnesses described in Revelation 11 - it's a very mysterious passage. Good people interpret it in very different ways. I'm not confident to put forward my own u understanding of it. Only to say that being hated and persecuted and killed would not contradict anything in the prophetic standards statement.

I take this statement as something wise and helpful rather than definitive. So a person that claims to be a prophet, but strayed from the standard set out here, I would be cautious about. But not necessarily reject outright.

It's just a good set of standards and questions to aid discernment.

I think it would be safe to say 2 things . 1 ) pay attention to thier work, words etc. " they will be known by thier fruits " and 2 ) use your Gift of Discernment .

It is very important to excercise your Gifts , especially Discernment . Learn to recognize the Peace of God in your heart.

I know many would say, God will enlighten me when He needs me. And you know what, im sure some lucky few get that. But the majority of us need to fan our faith into a flame. It is definately best to know what you are looking for. Look at Jonah, the very beginning of his story is that he recognized God's voice. Its because he had already learned to recognize it.

Moses and so many others in scripture did not recognize Gods voice. Even the Jews didnt recognize Jesus.

Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit, use It

 

[PloughBoy]

I think it would be safe to say 2 things . 1 ) pay attention to thier work, words etc. " they will be known by thier fruits " and 2 ) use your Gift of Discernment .

It is very important to excercise your Gifts , especially Discernment . Learn to recognize the Peace of God in your heart.

I know many would say, God will enlighten me when He needs me. And you know what, im sure some lucky few get that. But the majority of us need to fan our faith into a flame. It is definately best to know what you are looking for. Look at Jonah, the very beginning of his story is that he recognized God's voice. Its because he had already learned to recognize it.

Moses and so many others in scripture did not recognize Gods voice. Even the Jews didnt recognize Jesus.

Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit, use It

I don't Believe that "The Spirit of The Living GOD" is a tool , and it beckons at our command. God leads and we are to follow. For we are the slaves and HE is The MASTER. Even "JESUS" him self, Every word that I speak, my Father has told me what to say and how to say it. I came to do HIS will. For my Father is Greater Than I.

If anyone moves or speaks on their own notice. That person is moving in the flesh, moving in a way that the world moves and thought patterns.
We are to Bring every "Thought" into captivity.

But so many "christians" in this generation, This portion of Scripture is so foreign to their minds: But ever time they speak or think this should be normal, like when a person gets out of their bed and plant their feet on the floor, before they begin to walk.

But so many have not arrive. But still, "Bumble Being" around, buzzing "I know", "I know" " I know". For many, many, many have went, before they have been sent

"The weapons of our warfare are not the weapons of the world. Instead, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We Tear Down arguments AND EVERY PRESUMPTION set up AGAINST the Knowledge of GOD; and WE TAKE CAPTIVE EVER THOUGHT to make it obedient to Christ. And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, as soon as your obedience is complete.…"

Oh' how dark is the wisdom of this world and [MEN and Women Love The Wisdom and THE DARKNESS of This world rather Than LIGHT] And they Hate The "TRUTH"!

(Romans 3)BSB
“There is no one righteous,
not even one.

There is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.

All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”c

“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”d
“The venom of vipers is on their lips.”e

“Their mouths are full
of cursing and bitterness.”f

“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery lie in their wake,
and the way of peace they have not known.”g

“There is no fear of God
before their eyes.”h

Now who do thing he is talking to? ...........I think the "TEXT" is referring to "ALL"! and the 'text' has No "Buts" in it! "There is No One Righteous" Not even one! I don't care how pretty you are! Your righteous acts is no more than a "Polluted garment".

English Revised Version
"For we are all become as one that is unclean, and all our righteousnesses are as a polluted garment: and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away."

REPENT for The Kingdom of GOD is at hand, Turn around and go back the other way.

New International Version (Jeremiah)
"This is what the LORD says: “Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ ........[Lord have mercy. for they will not walk in it, for there are many christians who have put stumbling blocks in their way] [For many have told them lies instead of The Truth]. FATHER help them find the narrow path and guide them, and please don't but them into the hands of another man or woman, let them know you are real.

 

[Bill]

I don't Believe that "The Spirit of The Living GOD" is a tool , and it beckons at our command. God leads and we are to follow. For we are the slaves and HE is The MASTER. Even "JESUS" him self, Every word that I speak, my Father has told me what to say and how to say it. I came to do HIS will. For my Father is Greater Than I.

If anyone moves or speaks on their own notice. That person is moving in the flesh, moving in a way that the world moves and thought patterns.
We are to Bring every "Thought" into captivity.

But so many "christians" in this generation, This portion of Scripture is so foreign to their minds: But ever time they speak or think this should be normal, like when a person gets out of their bed and plant their feet on the floor, before they begin to walk.

But so many have not arrive. But still, "Bumble Being" around, buzzing "I know", "I know" " I know". For many, many, many have went, before they have been sent

"The weapons of our warfare are not the weapons of the world. Instead, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We Tear Down arguments AND EVERY PRESUMPTION set up AGAINST the Knowledge of GOD; and WE TAKE CAPTIVE EVER THOUGHT to make it obedient to Christ. And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, as soon as your obedience is complete.…"

Oh' how dark is the wisdom of this world and [MEN and Women Love The Wisdom and THE DARKNESS of This world rather Than LIGHT] And they Hate The "TRUTH"!

(Romans 3)BSB
“There is no one righteous,
not even one.

There is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.

All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”c

“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”d
“The venom of vipers is on their lips.”e

“Their mouths are full
of cursing and bitterness.”f

“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery lie in their wake,
and the way of peace they have not known.”g

“There is no fear of God
before their eyes.”h

Now who do thing he is talking to? ...........I think the "TEXT" is referring to "ALL"! and the 'text' has No "Buts" in it! "There is No One Righteous" Not even one! I don't care how pretty you are! Your righteous acts is no more than a "Polluted garment".

English Revised Version
"For we are all become as one that is unclean, and all our righteousnesses are as a polluted garment: and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away."

REPENT for The Kingdom of GOD is at hand, Turn around and go back the other way.

New International Version (Jeremiah)
"This is what the LORD says: “Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ ........[Lord have mercy. for they will not walk in it, for there are many christians who have put stumbling blocks in their way] [For many have told them lies instead of The Truth]. FATHER help them find the narrow path and guide them, and please don't but them into the hands of another man or woman, let them know you are real.

You have such passion , i love you for that.

But you are like me , all over the place sometimes.

Lets go back to the beginning of your comments.

Why are we told to fan into a flame our faith. And how are we to do this if not being studious and learning not only to recognize , but in using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

 

[PloughBoy]

"Why are we told to fan into a flame our faith. And how are we to do this if not being studious and learning not only to recognize , but in using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit."

Why; because as we grow in Maturity not meaning into Maturity. There most likely will be no encouragement from others, such as it was with Jesus, Paul, Peter, Andrew, and a host of others through out "The Sanctification Walk through out The Catholic [universal] Church History". So in essence yes we will at times have to "encourage" ourselves. But our "gifts" we receive from GOD, are not "Magical Abilities" that we can "Summons" at anytime. That is a form of witch craft.

No, we move, when it moves, If The Spirit of GOD does not compel us, we stand still, and wait in the "darkness" we wait in the "loneliness" we wait in the impatience. "In your patience you:
American Standard Version
In your patience ye shall win your souls.
English Standard Version
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves; we are pressed on every side, yet not distressed; perplexed, yet not unto despair; pursued, yet not forsaken; smitten down, yet not destroyed; always bearing about in the body the dying of Jesus, that the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our body.

The Gifts of GOD are not our tools to be summons at will. But as The Spirit of GOD moves through us, as will yield, That GOD maybe "Manifested". This comes by "Maturity"

Your quote:
" being studious and learning not only to recognize , but in using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit."

Caution: is the meaning, for many have ran out into streets by being impatience, in a sense of "restlessness" yet not in "Despair" or in any kind of danger.
And Their only need, was "To stand Still" The more Mature you become, Your "Adversary" have been around a long time He has all kinds of "Lures" "Bait", Traps, He even have "Encouragements" in hie bag of tricks. "Yeh, Eve you be just like GOD, knowing the Difference between "Good and Evil" "BUT" he didn't tell her about that other stuff!

Sometimes it is better to wait on "Jonah's Fish" at least, he will spit you up in the right direction

So i am not dis- agreeing with you "BUT" putting more fuel of the flame.

 

[Bill]

"Why are we told to fan into a flame our faith. And how are we to do this if not being studious and learning not only to recognize , but in using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit."

Why; because as we grow in Maturity not meaning into Maturity. There most likely will be no encouragement from others, such as it was with Jesus, Paul, Peter, Andrew, and a host of others through out "The Sanctification Walk through out The Catholic [universal] Church History". So in essence yes we will at times have to "encourage" ourselves. But our "gifts" we receive from GOD, are not "Magical Abilities" that we can "Summons" at anytime. That is a form of witch craft.

No, we move, when it moves, If The Spirit of GOD does not compel us, we stand still, and wait in the "darkness" we wait in the "loneliness" we wait in the impatience. "In your patience you:
American Standard Version
In your patience ye shall win your souls.
English Standard Version
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves; we are pressed on every side, yet not distressed; perplexed, yet not unto despair; pursued, yet not forsaken; smitten down, yet not destroyed; always bearing about in the body the dying of Jesus, that the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our body.

The Gifts of GOD are not our tools to be summons at will. But as The Spirit of GOD moves through us, as will yield, That GOD maybe "Manifested". This comes by "Maturity"

Your quote:
" being studious and learning not only to recognize , but in using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit."

Caution: is the meaning, for many have ran out into streets by being impatience, in a sense of "restlessness" yet not in "Despair" or in any kind of danger.
And Their only need, was "To stand Still" The more Mature you become, Your "Adversary" have been around a long time He has all kinds of "Lures" "Bait", Traps, He even have "Encouragements" in hie bag of tricks. "Yeh, Eve you be just like GOD, knowing the Difference between "Good and Evil" "BUT" he didn't tell her about that other stuff!

Sometimes it is better to wait on "Jonah's Fish" at least, he will spit you up in the right direction

So i am not dis- agreeing with you "BUT" putting more fuel of the flame.

It states in the scripture that the Two Witnesses can do all those things as often as they wish

 

[Reba1]

You have such passion , i love you for that.

But you are like me , all over the place sometimes.

Lets go back to the beginning of your comments.

Why are we told to fan into a flame our faith. And how are we to do this if not being studious and learning not only to recognize , but in using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

this line of yours @Bill "but in using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit." sure reads nicer then this one "Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit, use It "

 

[PloughBoy]

It states in the scripture that the Two Witnesses can do all those things as often as they wish

Well hopefully we will not be here when the TWO Witnesses of The Revealing of Jesus Christ are performing their "Proclamation". I do hope, we will be at The "Coronation Dinner" Table

 

[Bill]

Well hopefully we will not be here when the TWO Witnesses of The Revealing of Jesus Christ are performing their "Proclamation". I do hope, we will be at The "Coronation Dinner" Table

It would be nice to escape all that is to come. But in all of scripture Lot, nor the Israelites (with Moses) nor the exile into Babylon, nor the persecuted Christians ( early church ) recieve such a luxury. And based on this pattern , seems like we will go through this fire too

 

[Bill]

this line of yours @Bill "but in using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit." sure reads nicer then this one "Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit, use It "

I get a little frustrated when many here have the ability to use the Gifts, then dont even bother to use them

 

[Brad Huber]

I get a little frustrated when many here have the ability to use the Gifts, then dont even bother to use them

I get a lot frustrated. Too much sometimes, but I have seen how using them has been such a blessing in my life, it saddens me, sometimes even angers me that so many christians ignore them.

 

[Bill]

I get a lot frustrated. Too much sometimes, but I have seen how using them has been such a blessing in my life, it saddens me, sometimes even angers me that so many christians ignore them.

We must pray that our brothers and sisters. That God protects them from the falsehood the devil brings to thier minds. And that falsehood is, they can live thier lives without God.

God wants us to rely on Him, and Him alone. That all our being be as flowers, be as a bright warm embrace to the loving Father.

 

[Reba1]

1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
1Co 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

 

[Reba1]

1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

Who do you believe the "he" in the above is referring to ?

 

[PloughBoy]

It states in the scripture that the Two Witnesses can do all those things as often as they wish

I don't deal with people who try to speak concerning Revelation and the two witnesses most have not read their whole bibles not even once, and they get most of their materials concerning Revelation from "regurgitation' in which they love to feed on. A lot of christians have been so tainted by Home spawn money makers. The ones who have made "merchandise" of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" and selling it to christians. Over 40 years ago I ask some of these "sellers" where are you getting your information from, concerning "Revelation", their reply "From The BIBLE" Well Heck, I got one of Those, matter of fact, i got 2, one in the car and one at home. And walked away, my Mama have not raise a fool. He's going to get something out of the same Bible i got. rewrite it and sale it. And I am going to read it, instead of Reading My BIBLE Spend hours in HIS BOOK when I can spend More hours in My BIBLE! No no no, I was raise in the Ghetto, i am also "STREET WISE"! That is like, when people start selling water in a bottle that they got out of a tap

Water in American was free when i was growing up. at "Sears & Roebuck", The Gas stations, Downtown and sometimes they had a water Fountain on the corner, Free! There was Water fountains everywhere. Stores, Confectionery Stores was in ever neighborhood. Walk in and say, can i have some water? YEs, go over there and get some. They had little steps for kids to step on if they did not have a kiddy Fountain. Parks had "fountains everywhere.

As soon as someone got the idea, go to the tap and put some free water in a plastic bottle and sale it for $1.00. Let see if they buy the free water in a bottle and if they do, cut the "Ounces" and keep the same price, if it work. next stop is "The Movie Theater" with all that "POP CORN" with salt on it. No more free water, We are going to charge them $2.00 for $1.00 bottle of free water. Every neighborhood had a "Movie Theater" there was free water in Malls, 5 & 10 stores and when those MoviesTheaters made it to the malls $2.50 a bottle of free water. Imagine "the daddy, the Mama, the son, the Daughter and her friend at the movie, each one you have to buy a bottle of free water. total price of free water $12.50. People start putting Home Tap water under their coats and mothers start putting water in their Pocket BOOKS! BIG. shoulder wearing suit cases.

Now this person is going to take something out of the same Bible i got at HOME. and sale it to me for "$15.95" and I an going to pay them to read, it. "How to have a Happy Christian Marriage", "How to find GOD"S will for My life" "HOMEY Ain't going for that" I don't care how much The Pastor promotes it!

The 1st thing came to my mind: "freely you have receive, freely give". If GOD has given The wisdom from His Throne freely, are we to make "merchandise" of that Truth.

Apostle Paul said:
New Living Translation
So be careful how you live. Don’t live like fools, but like those who are wise.

I am my own home made "Pre- Tribulationist" "RAPTURE" before "THE GREAT TRIBULATION" so you will not find me in another mans book. Because i do not know what is written in there. And I know within another mans theory of "pre-tribulation most likely we are at odds on certain details. And it does not matter to me. I might listen to his lecture on "pre-tribulations" but the movement he goes off the path I am closing the door.

I don't feed off of "Regurgitation" I learn all this"Biblical material" before we had public Internet... The internet materials comes up short concerning "Biblical Information". Even it's Lexicons, Koine Greek, The Original Manuscripts are cool. "Textus Receptus" and other neat jewels are there.

 

[Bill]

I don't deal with people who try to speak concerning Revelation and the two witnesses most have not read their whole bibles not even once, and they get most of their materials concerning Revelation from "regurgitation' in which they love to feed on. A lot of christians have been so tainted by Home spawn money makers. The ones who have made "merchandise" of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" and selling it to christians. Over 40 years ago I ask some of these "sellers" where are you getting your information from, concerning "Revelation", their reply "From The BIBLE" Well Heck, I got one of Those, matter of fact, i got 2, one in the car and one at home. And walked away, my Mama have not raise a fool. He's going to get something out of the same Bible i got. rewrite it and sale it. And I am going to read it, instead of Reading My BIBLE Spend hours in HIS BOOK when I can spend More hours in My BIBLE! No no no, I was raise in the Ghetto, i am also "STREET WISE"! That is like, when people start selling water in a bottle that they got out of a tap

Water in American was free when i was growing up. at "Sears & Roebuck", The Gas stations, Downtown and sometimes they had a water Fountain on the corner, Free! There was Water fountains everywhere. Stores, Confectionery Stores was in ever neighborhood. Walk in and say, can i have some water? YEs, go over there and get some. They had little steps for kids to step on if they did not have a kiddy Fountain. Parks had "fountains everywhere.

As soon as someone got the idea, go to the tap and put some free water in a plastic bottle and sale it for $1.00. Let see if they buy the free water in a bottle and if they do, cut the "Ounces" and keep the same price, if it work. next stop is "The Movie Theater" with all that "POP CORN" with salt on it. No more free water, We are going to charge them $2.00 for $1.00 bottle of free water. Every neighborhood had a "Movie Theater" there was free water in Malls, 5 & 10 stores and when those MoviesTheaters made it to the malls $2.50 a bottle of free water. Imagine "the daddy, the Mama, the son, the Daughter and her friend at the movie, each one you have to buy a bottle of free water. total price of free water $12.50. People start putting Home Tap water under their coats and mothers start putting water in their Pocket BOOKS! BIG. shoulder wearing suit cases.

Now this person is going to take something out of the same Bible i got at HOME. and sale it to me for "$15.95" and I an going to pay them to read, it. "How to have a Happy Christian Marriage", "How to find GOD"S will for My life" "HOMEY Ain't going for that" I don't care how much The Pastor promotes it!

The 1st thing came to my mind: "freely you have receive, freely give". If GOD has given The wisdom from His Throne freely, are we to make "merchandise" of that Truth.

Apostle Paul said:
New Living Translation
So be careful how you live. Don’t live like fools, but like those who are wise.

I am my own home made "Pre- Tribulationist" "RAPTURE" before "THE GREAT TRIBULATION" so you will not find me in another mans book. Because i do not know what is written in there. And I know within another mans theory of "pre-tribulation most likely we are at odds on certain details. And it does not matter to me. I might listen to his lecture on "pre-tribulations" but the movement he goes off the path I am closing the door.

I don't feed off of "Regurgitation" I learn all this"Biblical material" before we had public Internet... The internet materials comes up short concerning "Biblical Information". Even it's Lexicons, Koine Greek, The Original Manuscripts are cool. "Textus Receptus" and other neat jewels are there.

I hate to tell you this, but none of my materiel on the Two Witnesses is from anyone else. Although i have referenced Scripture plenty.

But it does make me laugh when others say , fire will come from thier mouths ( like a fire breathing dragon )

 

[Bill]

1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
1Co 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

And when a Prophet with the Spirit of Wisdom tells you to fan into a fire your faith, will you do that and how will you do that?

 

[Reba1]

Don't have the ability to quote Scripture just now,, so this is from memory ..... I would test the spirits. Also faith come by hearing the Word. Between those 2 poorly quoted Scriptures, the lesson I take from them is, test any prophet ,gift, spirit etc against the Word using God given decernment.

 

[Bill]

Don't have the ability to quote Scripture just now,, so this is from memory ..... I would test the spirits. Also faith come by hearing the Word. Between those 2 poorly quoted Scriptures, the lesson I take from them is, test any prophet ,gift, spirit etc against the Word using God given decernment.

So when you read in Scripture where it says to fan into a flame your faith. You wont listen to the Lord, but you will test the Lord's spirit. .... interesting