Prosperity gospel

[Wired 4 Fishen]

You are making suppositions and assumptions about the nature of the rich man, and about your ability to avoid the pitfalls that come with wealth. And how do you come by this wealth? I see "how" people, to include people who claim Christ get ahead of their peers, and there is nothing godly about it. The people who get ahead in life without stepping on others along the way, usually do it through creativity and ingenuity. Do you have these qualities in abundance and the motivation to do it for the "right" reasons? Would you be willing to give it all up if Jesus asked "you" to do it, after all your hard work?

Hi Brad,
Nor sir there is no assumptions about the rich man - I have learned this and more over many, many years of study in this area. God is awesome about that. He will lead you to those He wants you to listen to when He is wanting to broaden your understanding.

Sir I see where you are coming from and it is no where near what I or others are talking about. You are speaking from the traditional human way of getting wealth. I and others are not. It is not us working or stepping over or on others to gain anything sir. It is God given through many different ways.

So if you use the world system or way of getting wealth and compare it to Godly wealth then you will have a big clash right there and we can see it in this thread.

The blessing of the Lord maketh you rich and adds no sorrow to it. Sorrow here in the written word of God is Toil which means struggle. See that is just it sir - we dont struggle or work for gain or riches. We can do nothing on our own. Obtw - that is also found in your proverbs....10:22

You asked are you willing to give it all up if Jesus asked ? Brad the answer is always going to be yes.
See sir when you get over here in the blessing realm or way of things you no longer think like most people do about "things" including money. We are givers - so we find great peace and love and joy in ALL of our giving. We do not get gain as to store up for our selves. Now then do not muzzel an ox - remember that one ? Meaning who does not get their share ? See God makes sure you have plenty left over for your self AND yet give in such a way it would make most gringe.

This also takes developing your faith walk or walking by faith. God will teach you to depend on Him for everything - big and small - many fail during this time.

Ok back to your question. Yes sir I would and have many times over.......
Here is a little one simply for example - God placed on my heart to give one of my tv's to a lady who just had her tv quit on her. I did with out even thinking twice. A week later my tv dies..........the devil was on my case to grumble and blame God and so forth. Nope not in my house. We praised God and prayed over the cd player and began listening to the word of God via cd's.

We cleaned off the stand and prayed and asked God to fill it. Aweek Later a lady clean across the country called us and had said she sent us her new second tv. She hoped it would not be to small. Now for this lady to do so is an act of God. belive me. lol Tv arives.............too small ? OMG it is a 32 flat screen smart tv.
Why did I write this - because if I would have grumbled or allowed my family to get upset or offended and in strife or simply had not obeyed and given the other tv away. Well I would still be listening to cd's and looking at an empty stand.............if God says Give that one to so and so............Yes sir - do you want this done right now or when and how......

Brad this is a life of a giver..........All of us born again beleivers should be blessed beyond what you could imangine and be the ones supplying and filling need. Cant do that on just get by bank account now can you.

I hope you know I am not trying to belittle you or hastle you or change you. I am simply defending the truth and brinnging it to the table. BLessed - cursed - poor or rich - that is up to you and not my job to condemn you or change you brother - my Job is simply to LOVE ya which I do.
God Bless Brad and have a very Blessed and Joyful Thanksgiving........save some turkey ( if this is what you are having) for the next day...... lol
James W

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Sorry @Brad Huber , @Ophel , @Wired 4 Fishen , @Bendito , and @ anyone else who was reading or participating in this thread. If I knew it would cause a major dispute. I would have left it alone After all only God gives the increase to any of you or to me. I will call it done for now.

Brother be at peace - I do not beleive anyone is holding anything against you nor do i see a big dispute. I rather thought it has been going very well when you compare it to many other threads out there when many disagree.

have a very Blessed and Joyful Thanksgiving Brother Amadeus2
God Bless
James W

 

[amadeus2]

Brother be at peace - I do not beleive anyone is holding anything against you nor do i see a big dispute. I rather thought it has been going very well when you compare it to many other threads out there when many disagree.

have a very Blessed and Joyful Thanksgiving Brother Amadeus2
God Bless
James W

Thank you friend. I hope you are correct and that everyone here are friends in Christ in spite of differences. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

 

[Bendito]

Matthew 19:21-26


21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Why did Jesus even say this if all things are possible with God? Perhaps a warning? Why even ask the man to give it all up if those riches were from God to please the man? Was God wrong to give the man wealth? Was he lying when he said he had done all the things of the law perhaps?

Brad...If you will read this in context...Jesus was talking to ONE man not everybody....This young man put all his value on his wealth...Not where it should be....
Please notice too...When Jesus told him to give away his riches there was a promise with it.

 

[Bendito]

Thank you friend. I hope you are correct and that everyone here are friends in Christ in spite of differences. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

Only hugs and love for my brother Amadeus here too

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Thank you friend. I hope you are correct and that everyone here are friends in Christ in spite of differences. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

Yes sir,
Once we alow strife in then we are done learning. Once we begin to offend one another we are done learning for the spirit of God can not dwell in there.

Once one grasp that once you become "Offended" then you have stepped into "Unforgiveness"
Unforgiveness is a sin and does not follow through with walking in Love. So for me and my house hold - we have had to learn ( get over it ) - we have also had to learn that when you walk in Love and Forgiveness then if an offence should try to stick on you - it has to leave faster then it got there. Once one learns this and puts it forth as a daily way of life - offences never really ever bother you for you walk in forgiveness and love.

I have also learned - it is far better to not take hold of an offence then it is to have to deal with it. I mean we even find in Mark 11:25 When "YOU" stand Praying - "FORGIVE" if you have ought against ANY - so your Father which is in Heaven "MAY" FORGIVE YOU YOUR TRESPASSES.

This is not something you get to pick and choose over. This is not something you get to say - if you only knew what they did to me - this is not something we can say maybe in a month or so - NOPE it is a right there and right now COMMAND. Not a wish or suggestion but Command that pleases God when we honor and obey.

Thank you brother for your contribution to this thread.
You are Blessed and HIghly Favored of the Lord
James W

 

[Brad Huber]

May you all share a good fellowship of thanksgiving for all God has given us this day and be content and at peace.

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

May you all share a good fellowship of thanksgiving for all God has given us this day and be content and at peace.

You as well my Brother Brad !! You as well.
You are Blessed and Highly favored of the Lord
James W