Psychological factors that cause Homosexuality

[LordKnows]

I'm getting a better understanding as to how Jesus felt when the people just didn't get it. It's heart breaking to say the very least.

 

[Julie.S]

I'm getting a better understanding as to how Jesus felt when the people just didn't get it. It's heart breaking to say the very least.

Well I'm sorry. Not everyone in the world is going to agree. Don't let that bother you though.

 

[LordKnows]

1 Corinthians 5:11New Living Translation (NLT)
11 "I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer]">[a] yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Don’t even eat with such people". 12 It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. 13 God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.”k]"

 

[Julie.S]

1 Corinthians 5:11New Living Translation (NLT)
11 "I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer]">[a] yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Don’t even eat with such people". 12 It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. 13 God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.”k]"

Romans 5:8

But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

I happen to know of cases where religious people have been very abusive. According to what you say I should not be near them then. Those who are abusive I mean.

Can I ask where you got that stuff from? So I can go look at it.

 

[LordKnows]

Romans 5:8 - But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 And since we have been made right in God’s sight by the blood of Christ, he will certainly save us from God’s condemnation. 10 For since our friendship with God was restored by the death of his Son while we were still his enemies, we will certainly be saved through the life of his Son. 11 So now we can rejoice in our wonderful new relationship with God because our Lord Jesus Christ has made us friends of God.
You can't be lost & found - You can't claim to be a believer in Christ & do whatever makes you "feel good". As he has said in Revelation
“I know all the things you do, that you are neither hot nor cold. I wish that you were one or the other! 16 But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!

God even loves those who are going to spend eternity in hell.

God does not contradict himself in any page or word in his entire Bible. So trying to make a wrong right with words from the same book doesn't work with God or myself. Picking & choosing scripture to fit your needs isn't a benefit. That's how "Religions" became... Because people didn't want to follow ALL the rules...

I don't need to know you to learn that you're not a faithful believer in Christ. You're defending bi-sexuality & it says otherwise.

You've only got two choices - You can either deal with what the word says - or don't

 

[Julie.S]

Romans 5:8 - But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 And since we have been made right in God’s sight by the blood of Christ, he will certainly save us from God’s condemnation. 10 For since our friendship with God was restored by the death of his Son while we were still his enemies, we will certainly be saved through the life of his Son. 11 So now we can rejoice in our wonderful new relationship with God because our Lord Jesus Christ has made us friends of God.
You can't be lost & found - You can't claim to be a believer in Christ & do whatever makes you "feel good". As he has said in Revelation
“I know all the things you do, that you are neither hot nor cold. I wish that you were one or the other! 16 But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!

God even loves those who are going to spend eternity in hell.

God does not contradict himself in any page or word in his entire Bible. So trying to make a wrong right with words from the same book doesn't work with God or myself. Picking & choosing scripture to fit your needs isn't a benefit. That's how "Religions" became... Because people didn't want to follow ALL the rules...

I don't need to know you to learn that you're not a faithful believer in Christ. You're defending bi-sexuality & it says otherwise.

You've only got two choices - You can either deal with what the word says - or don't

Sorry for using factual data.
I was raised in a Catholic household I have been religious for a very long time. So I have to dissagree that you know enough about me. This is the reason people get farther away from him because people go out and say this stuff to them. I'm not defending Bi sexuals I gave what I know about them. If you have a problem with that then that's fine.

I learned in college to give as much evidence as I possibly can for an argument.

Remember it's not what you think it's what God thinks. I love God and he loves me Back.

Have a nice day! And don't let the small things get to you it's not good.

 

[LordKnows]

The only people that get "far away from him" are them that just simply think all they need to do is "believe" without having to stop doing whatever it is that separates them from God. Heck, Satan himself KNOWS & has lived with God himself. Satan doesn't have faith he has facts that God is real. There are people out here that really have themselves convinced that as long as they "believe", go to church on Sunday, Bible study on Wednesday & donate here & there & just be a good person that they will get into Heaven. If only it were that simple.

Homosexuality - Bi-Sexuality, I don't care how Satan has candy coated it to be pleasingly sounding to the ears, minds & souls. It's wrong & whoever thinks differently is lying to themselves & thinks God is a joke.

There aren't ANY homosexuals in heaven & there NEVER will be.

 

[Julie.S]

The only people that get "far away from him" are them that just simply think all they need to do is "believe" without having to stop doing whatever it is that separates them from God. Heck, Satan himself KNOWS & has lived with God himself. Satan doesn't have faith he has facts that God is real. There are people out here that really have themselves convinced that as long as they "believe", go to church on Sunday, Bible study on Wednesday & donate here & there & just be a good person that they will get into Heaven. If only it were that simple.

Homosexuality - Bi-Sexuality, I don't care how Satan has candy coated it to be pleasingly sounding to the ears, minds & souls. It's wrong & whoever thinks differently is lying to themselves & thinks God is a joke.

There aren't ANY homosexuals in heaven & there NEVER will be.

Why do you seem so angry? That's what I really want to know.
How do you know its not that simple?
Have you met God in person yet?
I do not think so.

Where did you learn all this? In my church they never talk like this to us. Its also a Catholic church and I know they are different then other branches of the church.

Matthew 7:1-6 ~ Judging others in our attitude to our brothers and sisters in the Christian community: (Jesus continues, saying)"Stop judging, that you may not be judged. 2 For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you

The Christian shall not be a hypocrite who pretends to be holy while living with unconfessed sin in his/her own life; such a person will receive a harsher judgment themselves because they are fully aware of the sin (7:5)

 

[LordKnows]

Where do you get "anger" from my posts? I LOVE God & like any other child that defends their father you will have passion, not anger.
I know it's not that simple because the Bible says so.
Nobody has ever met God in person. If I or ANYONE claimed to have met him it would be a lie.

I learned all this by reading my Bible. I am not into "religion". Religions were created because they didn't want to follow all the rules.

The church I attend is not of any denomination. What I have is a personal relationship with God. He is my rock. I can talk to him directly without having to confess sins to someone that can not grant me eternal life or forgive me for my sins. I let God know that I acknowledge my wrong & ask him to forgive me because he already knows what I have done wrong & what I will do. God is personal, I don't have to go through any channels of church folks to get my message to God. God is inside me (The Holy Spirit).

It is not my job to judge anyone that doesn't believe God died on the cross for our sins & was raised from the dead 3 days later BUT it is OUR job as Christians to judge those that claim what Christians claim & do not live the life of a Christian.

 

[Julie.S]

Where do you get "anger" from my posts? I LOVE God & like any other child that defends their father you will have passion, not anger.
I know it's not that simple because the Bible says so.
Nobody has ever met God in person. If I or ANYONE claimed to have met him it would be a lie.

I learned all this by reading my Bible. I am not into "religion". Religions were created because they didn't want to follow all the rules.

The church I attend is not of any denomination. What I have is a personal relationship with God. He is my rock. I can talk to him directly without having to confess sins to someone that can not grant me eternal life or forgive me for my sins. I let God know that I acknowledge my wrong & ask him to forgive me because he already knows what I have done wrong & what I will do. God is personal, I don't have to go through any channels of church folks to get my message to God. God is inside me (The Holy Spirit).

It is not my job to judge anyone that doesn't believe God died on the cross for our sins & was raised from the dead 3 days later BUT it is OUR job as Christians to judge those that claim what Christians claim & do not live the life of a Christian.

You do not know how someone lives though.
I mean I have wanted to join a nondenominational church for a while. However you see how I could turn this around on you right? "I learned all this by reading my Bible. I am not into "religion". Religions were created because they didn't want to follow all the rules." Are you saying you are getting this just from a Bible then? I mean that's fine you do what fits your relationship with God. It just sounds kind of like "I like this book and what it says but I don't want to be in the club that likes it also because that's just not for me." You picked and chose not to be in one of the other churches because it did not work for you. I'm not trying to be rude here either.

 

[Victor9509]

I think we need to chill because Christians arguing or debating like this doesn't look good or is not good.

 

[Julie.S]

I think we need to chill because Christians arguing or debating like this doesn't look good or is not good.

That's why I try to avoid it at all costs. I need to defend myself sometimes though and I hardly ever do. Sorry if that caused a problem.

 

[LordKnows]

I have had far too many miraculous things happen to me in my life to have any doubt of Gods love for me. God spoke to me personally, he is who told me why religions began. I asked him "God, why are there so many religions" His reply was "Because they didn't want to follow all the rules." This is NOT something I concocted up in my own head, brain or mind. I didn't hear voices as some think.

I don't have to physically see how someone lives their lives. If they claim they are a Christian, following the same God I love it is my duty, OUR Christian duty to judge them inside the church according to the Bible. I am to be judged just the same. It keeps his people in line. We can not go by feelings, emotions or society & what they deem to be right at the present time. Society changes all the time. God is the same yesterday, today & forever. His rules & regulations have to be followed even when our human mind says or thinks it doesn't make sense or is "wrong". The truth will never be wrong. Uncomfortable yes, but never wrong.

People these days are offended too quickly because they hear something that goes against what they have been taught. I myself have found out that many things I was taught are wrong even from what I was taught In school. The only truth there is, is God & his word. It's consistent & nothing but Love.

We as Christians can't allow our feelings to interfere with what God said, they're just simple feelings that will fade. We were not put on this earth for us, our needs, wants or passions. We are here for God & God only. He owns us & is VERY jealous when anyone or anything interferes with the connection he has with us.

I used to cringe whenever I heard the word "slave" but now that God has humbled me & softened my heart. I am no longer uncomfortable admitting that I am Gods slave. I am honored to be one of his chosen kids. Not everyone that believes in him is going to heaven. God loves me too much & I fall in love with him more & more everyday.

We are selfish people. We try to twist & turn lies into truths so we can keep doing it without even knowing that it's wrong. The Bible says homosexuality is wrong so I have to agree with what my dad said. If dad (God) says it's wrong then it's wrong. It wouldn't matter if 999 people out of 1,000 said that being gay is right & had all the documents in the world to back up their reasons. The Bible says it's wrong & that is all the proof I need. True Christians are not supposed to be comfortable here in this world. This is not ours. Heaven is our destination. We are just visiting earth till dad gets back. When he comes back he's taking us kids with him & leaving the world lovers here where they want to be. Till he comes back we are to study the message (Bible) he left for us & tell everyone that doesn't know about him what we know so that they are not left behind.

I hope I made sense

 

[Julie.S]

I have had far too many miraculous things happen to me in my life to have any doubt of Gods love for me. God spoke to me personally, he is who told me why religions began. I asked him "God, why are there so many religions" His reply was "Because they didn't want to follow all the rules." This is NOT something I concocted up in my own head, brain or mind. I didn't hear voices as some think.

I don't have to physically see how someone lives their lives. If they claim they are a Christian, following the same God I love it is my duty, OUR Christian duty to judge them inside the church according to the Bible. I am to be judged just the same. It keeps his people in line. We can not go by feelings, emotions or society & what they deem to be right at the present time. Society changes all the time. God is the same yesterday, today & forever. His rules & regulations have to be followed even when our human mind says or thinks it doesn't make sense or is "wrong". The truth will never be wrong. Uncomfortable yes, but never wrong.

People these days are offended too quickly because they hear something that goes against what they have been taught. I myself have found out that many things I was taught are wrong even from what I was taught In school. The only truth there is, is God & his word. It's consistent & nothing but Love.

We as Christians can't allow our feelings to interfere with what God said, they're just simple feelings that will fade. We were not put on this earth for us, our needs, wants or passions. We are here for God & God only. He owns us & is VERY jealous when anyone or anything interferes with the connection he has with us.

I used to cringe whenever I heard the word "slave" but now that God has humbled me & softened my heart. I am no longer uncomfortable admitting that I am Gods slave. I am honored to be one of his chosen kids. Not everyone that believes in him is going to heaven. God loves me too much & I fall in love with him more & more everyday.

We are selfish people. We try to twist & turn lies into truths so we can keep doing it without even knowing that it's wrong. The Bible says homosexuality is wrong so I have to agree with what my dad said. If dad (God) says it's wrong then it's wrong. It wouldn't matter if 999 people out of 1,000 said that being gay is right & had all the documents in the world to back up their reasons. The Bible says it's wrong & that is all the proof I need. True Christians are not supposed to be comfortable here in this world. This is not ours. Heaven is our destination. We are just visiting earth till dad gets back. When he comes back he's taking us kids with him & leaving the world lovers here where they want to be. Till he comes back we are to study the message (Bible) he left for us & tell everyone that doesn't know about him what we know so that they are not left behind.

I hope I made sense

Yep but please do not put others down. Show compassion to them. I think I'm done with this site. I'm going back to my usual one and the one I call home.

 

[LordKnows]

I'm sorry if you feel I have put others down. The Bible is my rock - If the Bible has anyone feel it puts them down I stand behind it.

 

[amadeus2]

I believe bisexuality, does exist and it just means you get turned on by both genders.
I know what 1 Corinthians 6:9-12 says.
People have the choice to kill if they want or even steal. But a lot of people believe that they don't have a choice in being gay.

People always have choices... even when it seems that they do not. God is looking at the outer part (including the homosexuality or bisexuality) only as the result of what is in the person's heart. If the heart is wrong, it needs to be changed and no man can do that alone. That is why we must really turn to God continually. If we do we not we will sin repeatedly, whether it be in fornication or in thievery or in murder.

God sent His Son so that we could find the right way, but when it is found, it must be followed, even when to do so seems to be impossible:

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." Mark 10:27

For this reason we can effectively have God in us doing the work that for us is impossible. To deny this is to deny the power of God.

 

[Julie.S]

I'm sorry if you feel I have put others down. The Bible is my rock - If the Bible has anyone feel it puts them down I stand behind it.

That's just it though. I was told in CCD that God loves everyone. I was also taught religious tolerance at a Quaker school and it has gotten me very far in life and in my spiritual one also. Use the Bible to show people God's love not push them away from it. Harshness never gets you anywhere good.
Have a nice day and a good life.

 

[LordKnows]

The Bible isn't a "do whatever you want to do because God loves you" book of instruction. There are things in the bible I don't like. But because I'm Gods kid he knows what's best for me even if I don't agree with it or want to do what he wants me to. Nobody really likes to be corrected or told that what they doing or thinking is wrong. That's life. God says that he loves us & has rules we have to follow.

God isn't a yes man. Parents that don't care let their kids do whatever makes them happy. God loves us so he corrects us & wants the best for us.

God DOES love everyone - He loved Judas that betrayed him too. But that didn't stop Judas from being condemned to hell for his betrayal.

 

[Julie.S]

The Bible isn't a "do whatever you want to do because God loves you" book of instruction. There are things in the bible I don't like. But because I'm Gods kid he knows what's best for me even if I don't agree with it or want to do what he wants me to. Nobody really likes to be corrected or told that what they doing or thinking is wrong. That's life. God says that he loves us & has rules we have to follow.

God isn't a yes man. Parents that don't care let their kids do whatever makes them happy. God loves us so he corrects us & wants the best for us.

God DOES love everyone - He loved Judas that betrayed him too. But that didn't stop Judas from being condemned to hell for his betrayal.

Yes I understand that. Let's stop arguing.

 

[LordKnows]

I would call it more of a debate rather than an argument. But you have a deal