Questions I asked Jesus

[DutchChristian]

I now ask The LORD to judge between us this week.

And you better close your big mouth and repent!

 

[Michelle71]

Part 2
Belief is knowing, belief is knowledge one learns when they follow a particular Christian sect or religion. Belief is not faith, belief is just belief. Faith is trusting in God without knowing.
Like love, the word faith is so vague that it has lost virtually all its meaning. But the word, as the Bible using it, is rich with meaning. The key idea is holding to something with conviction and confidence. What we are told to hold to is, of course, God, who is completely trustworthy and steadfast. By extension, by holding to something or someone rather who is reliable, we become more reliable ourselves. In fact, faith means that in a world where nothing and no one seems 100 percent reliable, the only reliable One is God. So we put faith not in an idea or a set of beliefs, nor in a vague “faith in faith,” the modern faith we have in this day, but in Jesus Christ.

I thought this should be the first of the mark as it has a deep meaning regarding the religious idiocies of men and the man-made doctrines they come up with. Belief before faith is stupid as belief will keep you from faith or faith will not be born if belief takes root first. This concept was illustrated spiritually in Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God." Your riches are not just money or possessions, but anything you put above God, even your Belief systems. Because it becomes too hard to turn away from it, so you find excuses to keep it. Way back before one finds Jesus, when we are sinners in the world, often we hear someone speaking about Jesus and life everlasting. This in some triggers desire which triggers pure faith in its infancy. It is this faith we all should protect in others when they are learning to come to Jesus. Jesus said, "Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea. (Matthew 18:3-6)

Modern Christian Religions, drowns this faith fast in belief systems, as soon as a new born comes asking, they fill their mind with rules and regulations, rather than helping their heart to take the wisdom deep within. After some time the new born in Christ becomes indoctrinated in the particular sect they joined and believe this is the way. They are educated in man-made ways and live in fear, rather than living in faith. But this would be found out if one read the scriptures, so as to cover the lacking in faith, they are told their belief is faith and this seals the fate of the new born in Christ, they become a prisoner to man-made ways. When they read faith in the bible they assume its speaking of their faith. The truth is, it is not, it speaks of the ancient faith, trusting without knowing. Believe it or not, it was the first faith they had before man-made ways stuck its hooks in. For a sinner to hear and want Jesus Christ without knowing the bible or any religion, this is pure faith. Faith that they would ask to start with, seek and knock to find Jesus. But in truth most find man-made ways and think that’s it. It is the only reason I write, and speak His message. I care not for Religion or sects, stay in them, don’t stay in them, I am not fussed one little bit. Move from one sect to another, I don’t care. That is a choice you are allowed to make right or wrong.

I just care about one thing, telling people to open their hearts and refined the real faith they once had. Once they do that, do as you wish in your choice of Religion.

There's a lot of truth in what you said here. Although there is a trend to go back to the ancient ways, no one really knows what that is. Large amounts of scripture are overlooked and thrown under the carpet as if they are not there so as to uphold the doctrines that the churches have adopted today which in no way resembles the doctrine of those who wrote the NT. So, those truly seeking the Lord are left with those questions they have when reading the Bible unanswered, or answered in a way that leaves them scratching their head because those answers do not make any sense, or are contradictory to what the rest of the scriptures say.

Then if the person decides to take the Bible itself, and read it on their own having faith that the Lord will guide them and show them what He wants them to know, they are booted out of that church or group for nonconformity. That right there destroys more new Christian's faith than anything else. The frontline really is right within the churches. There are more unsaved people who think they are saved but are not, within those doors than most would even care to admit. Then the chasing around after each other to encourage the false doctrines adds fuel to the fire of deception, and it makes someone off the street looking into this Jesus sick to their stomach.

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Testing the spirit is so misunderstood among those who hear from the Lord, and others who read prophecy. It becomes a rock of offense, both thinking that He is being offended because lack of faith that it is His true spirit of prophecy coming through, and being offended when anyone suggests such a thing be done because of the perception that they may think you a false prophet, or that you are not saved, or do not have a true relationship with the Lord.

All of those understandings are false. The Lord will not get angry or think the person is "less than" because they test the spirit. He expects it! And actually should give the person peace of mind because Satan can come as an angel of light with all kinds of deceiving lies, and subtleties. This is the first line of defense, but as I said before the actual Biblical texts are the acid test. If it does not line up with scripture, then that prophecy needs to be set aside, and prayed about more.

Prophets are not infallible people. They make mistakes and can go off track just like anyone else does. Learning to hear from the Lord is not a cake walk right? When starting to learn and hear from God, He does not give all the answers wrapped up nicely with a ribbon on top. It is a process of learning, and it doesn't matter how old you are, or how old in the Lord you are. It is a continual process.

Now, I don't agree with everything Tman says, but he is sincere in searching and seeking the Lord. Wanting to hear His voice above all others, and it is obvious he does search the scriptures and he prays about what it says. Testing the spirit does not mean that the Lord will not lead a person down a hard road. Who's road is a bed of roses? But hearing His voice saying go this way, or that. Or this is the straight way do not turn here or there. That is what I see through the postings of Tman in this site. The only caution is, do not get wrapped up in the Hebrew Roots Movement, and continue to test the spirit each time you are hearing from the Lord, and continue growing and reading the scriptures. Compare what you are hearing in the spirit to what is found in the scriptures.

Many times the Lord will have you write out what He is saying by more of an article with scriptures rather than in the conversation form. It depends on where He has you ministering. Keep in mind that many times the information given to a prophet in the way it is given can be misunderstood and misinterpreted. Many times taking that information and using what the Lord said to write an article that can be read easier, and understood by more people can get what He is saying out to more of the Body of Christ.

Personally, stones are not going to be thrown myside. A conversation, and discussion about what may or may not be scriptural, yes. Calling a person to repent of something that has not been proven, and who has shown humility is not in the spirit of Christ. Within the conversation growth can happen in every single person involved. No one is at the same place in life, and perceptions, experiences, and emotions all tend to get in the way more times than not. Rather than coming off as a religious prig, maybe bearing with one another could take presidence?

 

[T Man]

I now ask The LORD to judge between us this week.

And you better close your big mouth and repent!

DutchChristian

I have prayed all week over us, how you feel about me and how i fell about you, but Jesus in the end won and and in that say to you publicly sorry for being short towards you. i understand how hard it must be hearing what I write and how i write it. I know not everyone will understand what I am saying and I should not take that out on you. Jesus is Lord and as such i take my lead from Him.

I understand some of what you are facing in your own walk with Him and know how hard it is at times to keep your face towards Christ, so please I ask you to forgive my actions against you and I pray your situation at home becomes an easy one in Jesus.

May the Lord bless you and keep you close to His heart, in Jesus name I pray.

Please understand I can't stop in the Lord what He teaches me and tells me, so I pray we both have the Spirit of God in the right place at the right time at all times. That we both learn tollerance towards each other and can grow together in the body of Christ, as each of us have a gift and each gift is different.

Again sorry for any wrong doing on my part, I pray you recieve my feeling from the heart and except it in yours.

Blessing T

 

[DutchChristian]

DutchChristian

I have prayed all week over us, how you feel about me and how i fell about you, but Jesus in the end won and and in that say to you publicly sorry for being short towards you. i understand how hard it must be hearing what I write and how i write it. I know not everyone will understand what I am saying and I should not take that out on you. Jesus is Lord and as such i take my lead from Him.

I understand some of what you are facing in your own walk with Him and know how hard it is at times to keep your face towards Christ, so please I ask you to forgive my actions against you and I pray your situation at home becomes an easy one in Jesus.

May the Lord bless you and keep you close to His heart, in Jesus name I pray.

Please understand I can't stop in the Lord what He teaches me and tells me, so I pray we both have the Spirit of God in the right place at the right time at all times. That we both learn tollerance towards each other and can grow together in the body of Christ, as each of us have a gift and each gift is different.

Again sorry for any wrong doing on my part, I pray you recieve my feeling from the heart and except it in yours.

Blessing T

Dear T Man,

I forgive you and i set you free.

Please do know that my previous given warning still stands strong!

Take care now and take heed,
Dutchchristian

 

[T Man]

I said to Jesus 'Jesus I am at a loss at what to do, I struggle with my flesh, my spirit hears what is right but my flesh hear what others say and I become low and fail to move, yet deep down within me I hear and know, why does this happen?
They talk to me about the word, your word, they tell me the bible is the only word, yet I know this not to be so, I know your word is more than what is written that your word is deeper than the flesh and lives as an active force within me, yet my flesh takes over and I give a hearing to those that say the things of the flesh and allow this to affect me, I feel so low in Spirit and worn out and need your help.

Jesus said to me “Raymond do not enter into debates with those that are weak in faith, just speak what I tell you and move on, your instruction was to speak and speak only, leave the knowing and work to the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit will convict them on the truth deep within those whose hearts can be penetrated through the walls of stone. Do not take your eyes of me, remain in my love and complete your task.

Say to them ‘What do I liken this generation too, those that take the easy road of human wisdom, yet even so still fail to understand the things of flesh, what chance will you have understanding the things of Spirit. Oh humanity, the men of flesh cleaning the outside of the cup, yet the inside is full of hypocrisy. Human wisdom with over 50 versions of the word in English which one is true and which one a lie? With over 100 Christian sects to choose from which one is true which one a lie? The Kingdom of Heaven has one truth, which one do you give ear too? The wisdom of God or the wisdom of man? You say the bible is my word? Yet there are so many human versions of my word and you say you are saved, my words I spoke are words of Spirit and Life not of the flesh, indeed the flesh will never understand the Spiritual. The words you give ear to are the words of flesh and that which is taught by men, how then are you to hear when your hearing has become dull, how do you see when you can barely see?

Oh humanity still eating the forbidden fruit and sharing in the punishment of the flesh.
Examine the evidence, blind guilds, judge by the fruit as instructed! Do not judge according to flesh because the flesh is of men. Did Moses read a scroll or did he hear the voice of the father from a burning bush? Spiritual hearing! Jeremiah, did he read it in a book or did he hear in Spirit? Therefore, be wise, understand the Spirit is everything as the truth comes only from the Spirit of Truth, everything else comes from men of flesh. Is it not written 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.' Those that lack faith that cannot hear these words from the Fathers own mouth, yet say this means the bible and teach it as a truth, a truth according to men. The truth is the truth, The Spirit of Truth, His Holy lifesaving words comes from the Fathers own month and heard in the inner ear of the faithful or again its written ‘I have food to eat that you do not know about.’ What food was I talking about, he that fails in the things of flesh, how does he see the things of Spirit? Spiritual food, words of Spirit and truth, the inner you needs this food in order to live because those of the flesh will pass away.

Is it not written ‘Do not labor for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.’ Therefore do not seek flesh and the wisdom of flesh that is coming to nothing, seek the Spiritual truth from the Spirit of Truth, true wisdom comes from the Father, white washed lies come from men or why does it say ‘always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth’. It is true my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. You have to learn to take me within you and learn from me, I am your instructor you are my disciples, so why partake in the food offered to idols ‘the wisdom of men’ is it not written ‘Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that "all of us possess knowledge." This "knowledge" puffs up, but love builds up’. Human wisdom puffs up, but the Spirit of truth is love and it builds up. No, I tell you plainly for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word of God.

What then do you have if even the very thing you hold to is void? What will become of you? Learn the lesson of the 10 virgins seek the oil for your lamps before the darkness over takes you. Human traditions have damaged The Way and those that have damaged my little ones will answer for their transgression. Human wisdom has made void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do. As it is written ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples. Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.

Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death. Human wisdom judges according to the flesh; I judge no one. I did not come into the world to judge it or condemn the world, I came so I might save the world, if you are my disciples, you will continue my ministry, not start your own! You will not condemn nor tear down but build up in Love and in the Spirit of Truth. Now do as instructed, judge by the fruit, do not judge by human standards, he who judges by human standards will be judged and the measure you use shall be used against you.


Raymond what I say now is for you, share this or save it for yourself, this is up to you. I know how weak you feel and how hard it is for you to write, your fear of being attacked verbally by the ones you speak too. Understand this, you are in good company. There has been many stoned, chased and whipped for speaking the Truth of Spirit, every word spoken, they shall give account of, every action taken they shall give account of, as for you keep hearing and speaking my word to them but know only 1 in a 1000 will hear the Spirit of Truth and convert to the truth according to the Father, as for the rest leave them alone, let them pray to the faceless gods they have created in their own minds, for it will be a one-sided conversation.

Your days are not many, so speak with faith and be bold, speak what I whisper to you, then the end will come and I will save you from that day and on that day they will know that I have loved you. Soon the world will be at war so many slaughtered more than all the wars from the beginning of time, money will be worthless and life will be cheap, men will kill men for food and the children and wives left to die in the cold, if not for my coming no flesh would survive. In those days the sky will become blackened, fire in the sky and the stars will move from there place. Great nations will fall and evil will rise, then the end will come. Hold fast to what I tell you, focus all that you are on me and speak my words to those that would give ear to them.

Raymond, you know about love, the love I taught you, you know about grace and what it means and you know about the healthy respect you should have for the Father, in this you are anointed to speak as you have the key to open the door others have shut. To those that seek that key from you, give it to them, but to those that spite you move on for you do not have the time to argue or debate with them. Those that greet you bless them, those that mock you leave them for the Lord God will not be mocked.

 

[jari]

t man. why is that you said you could help others spiritually when all i see in your posts is that how no one knows nothing?
and that you would give key to them that seek it?
i dont see you doing any of that yet. all i see you doing is down talking others. and when i asked you once, couple of questions in PM you were unable to give any useful answers. why is that? i thought someone who speaks to Jesus could say something to help others grow spiritually but so far you havent done any of this. why?
what is that you are doing in here? what is your fruit?