Rapture is soon! Rejoice!

[Hitch]

Are we Rejoicing at the Rapture ???? or at Jesus coming? seems some put more hope in escaping the tribulation then they do seeing Jesus?? Not saying this is the case here but something I have noticed

As I have said before , its a sad state but far too many believes will grasp at the slimmest chance to escape death. And that is the draw.

 

[Sue D.]

Well -- no on knows when or how they will die OR when the rapture will take place. So. Everyone needs to be ready spiritually for either one to be happening.

 

[Hitch]

Well -- no on knows when or how they will die OR when the rapture will take place. So. Everyone needs to be ready spiritually for either one to be happening.

Im pretty sure God knows. Have you ever considered even the possibility of Christ being successful in history, , do you not believe Him when He says it is better for us that He not be here in person ?

 

[Sue D.]

Well -- of course He knows but he's the only one who does.

 

[Hitch]

Well -- of course He knows but he's the only one who does.

And it has never been otherwise and 100% of those who preached its 'soonness' have been proven wrong. Rather than pretend we have some special knowledge only to deny even the possibility of knowing when challenged, we should proclaim the 'sureness of His coming.

 

[Sue D.]

Im pretty sure God knows. Have you ever considered even the possibility of Christ being successful in history, , do you not believe Him when He says it is better for us that He not be here in person ?

He told the disciples that he would ascending back up to heaven so that the Holy Spirit could come and be with each believer all the time. When He was here In person he would only be one place at a time.

However a After those seven years of tribulation , there will be the 1000 yr reign of Him in person.

 

[Sue D.]

And it has never been otherwise and 100% of those who preached its 'soonness' have been proven wrong. Rather than pretend we have some special knowledge only to deny even the possibility of knowing when challenged, we should proclaim the 'sureness of His coming.

"Soonness" to God and we are sure of His coming back at some time in the future.

 

[Reba1]

I must believe God knew the meaning of SOON when He said it.
Mat_21:20 And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!
Mar_1:42 And as soon as he had spoken, immediately the leprosy departed from him, and he was cleansed.
Mar_5:36 As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe.
Mar_11:2 And saith unto them, Go your way into the village over against you: and as soon as ye be entered into it, ye shall find a colt tied, whereon never man sat; loose him, and bring him.
Mar_14:45 And as soon as he was come, he goeth straightway to him, and saith, Master, master; and kissed him.
Luk_1:23 And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.
Luk_1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
Luk_8:6 And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
Luk_15:30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.
Luk_22:66 And as soon as it was day, the elders of the people and the chief priests and the scribes came together, and led him into their council, saying,
Luk_23:7 And as soon as he knew that he belonged unto Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him to Herod, who himself also was at Jerusalem at that time.
Joh_11:20 Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat still in the house.
Joh_11:29 As soon as she heard that, she arose quickly, and came unto him.
Joh_16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.
Joh_18:6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.
Joh_21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
Act_10:29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?
Act_12:18 Now as soon as it was day, there was no small stir among the soldiers, what was become of Peter.
Gal_1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Php_2:23 Him therefore I hope to send presently, so soon as I shall see how it will go with me.
2Th_2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Tit_1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
Rev_10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
Rev_12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

 

[Hitch]

Dave M said:
Are we Rejoicing at the Rapture ???? or at Jesus coming? seems some put more hope in escaping the tribulation then they do seeing Jesus?? Not saying this is the case here but something I have noticed

"The fact that the Day of the Lord begins at the Rapture should make clear that the church will not go through the judgements of the Day of the Lord and will not suffer the wrath of God to be poured out on unbelievers at that time These first century Christians were challenged to be living in expectation of Christ's coming, when the dead in Christ will be raised and the living Christians will be translated this blessed hope..."

John Walvoord 1990

The world authority on pre-tribulationism is here speaking of rapture.

 

[Hitch]

"Soonness" to God and we are sure of His coming back at some time in the future.

"Soonness" to God

What does this mean ?
It looks as though you are implying that God has purposely mislead His own people. Or at best God is unable to communicate with human beings.

 

[Hitch]

He told the disciples that he would ascending back up to heaven so that the Holy Spirit could come and be with each believer all the time. When He was here In person he would only be one place at a time.

However a After those seven years of tribulation , there will be the 1000 yr reign of Him in person.

He told the disciples that he would ascending back up to heaven so that the Holy Spirit could come and be with each believer all the time. When He was here In person he would only be one place at a time.

So is there any better possible situation for the completion of the great commission? Is there any better set up for it to grow and bear its fruit ?

There must be because you're entire system is based on the failure of the church in history.

 

[Rookster]

I've been keeping watch of the YouTube channel SavingLives LLC and just 3-4 days after the last video this video came up and seems interesting as it's pointing to a "last call" enjoy!

End Times

John 3:16 For God so loved the world ...

saintjohn316.blogspot.com

 

[Reba1]

Are we Rejoicing at the Rapture ???? or at Jesus coming? seems some put more hope in escaping the tribulation then they do seeing Jesus?? Not saying this is the case here but something I have noticed

yup

 

[ChristianConsFurryGuy]

Funny how Jesus though there would be no separation of the good and evil until the end. Perhaps He didnt understand. (M 13;39)

You're confusing Jesus to any lower-g god out there. We're talking about a being who exists outside of what we call time and space, cause he created them! God knows the beginning and end of all things, he is neighter early or late, he's always on time. He knows all and is all that is! It's why we give him a Capital G!

 

[ChristianConsFurryGuy]

Are we Rejoicing at the Rapture ???? or at Jesus coming? seems some put more hope in escaping the tribulation then they do seeing Jesus?? Not saying this is the case here but something I have noticed

WE should be rejoicing at both, cause when Jesus comes for his bride (The church) we will finally see him face to face! The rapture IS his coming...for us!

 

[Hitch]

You're confusing Jesus to any lower-g god out there. We're talking about a being who exists outside of what we call time and space, cause he created them! God knows the beginning and end of all things, he is neighter early or late, he's always on time. He knows all and is all that is! It's why we give him a Capital G!

So when Jesus says the good and the evil will grow side by side until the end He is correct and you are contrary.

 

[Sue D.]

WE should be rejoicing at both, cause when Jesus comes for his bride (The church) we will finally see him face to face! The rapture IS his coming...for us!

The rapture is a separate event. But I also understand what you are saying.

his first coming was as a baby. His second will be as righteous ruler for the next 1000 yrs.

And Before that takes place is when the rapture of the Church / His Bride will take place.

 

[Hitch]

The rapture is a separate event. But I also understand what you are saying.

his first coming was as a baby. His second will be as righteous ruler for the next 1000 yrs.

And Before that takes place is when the rapture of the Church / His Bride will take place.

Can you quote Jesus in support of this idea? I can quote him in support of the contrary.

 

[Sue D.]

How about quoting scripture that is contrary to what I just shared.

 

[Hitch]

How about quoting scripture that is contrary to what I just shared.

OK

The rapture is a separate event. But I also understand what you are saying.

'the dead in Christ shall rise first' ....



Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Jesus says ALL in the graves will be raised and He takes care to define ALL in 29 as the good and the evil. You are forced to insert 1,000 years right here life; and but as it obvious it is not in the text.


And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Jesus gives the time the event of %;29 will take place , the last day. Once again you are forced to insert 1,000 years somewhere.

And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Jesus take pains to repeat His promise of resurrection with the timing established in 39. In contrast to your necessary 1,000 or 1,007 years prior to the last day.

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Jesus reminds the disciples that they have the same Father and further assures them of resurrection , on the last day

But Jesus sometimes didnt speak plainly but rather parabolically :


24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

And since He spoke this way to confuse the Pharisees He take a moment to define His term.


He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

Jesus tells us the good and the evil will live side by side until the end. You program is contrary , saying the good will be suddenly removed and history will continue.








Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.


Jesus knowing of course that even some of His own followers would later deny what He had said His promise a fourth time, careful to include the very day on which the resurrection will come to pass.