So is Honoring our Mother and Father and Elders is only A Conditional of Earning That Respect as being taught today through “Christianity” if so why

[God's Truth]

I kinda, smile and remembered many years ago in a Restaurant I burst out and laugh while I was reading my Bible there. And one of The Waitress, said, “What are you readind! I showed her my Book and said the Bible! She replied, and you are Laughing like that!!
Yep! I replied.

I know manying are not going to believe me and personally I don’t care, for it is not that important. It is not.

And Now I will speak in a “Hebrew tense”.

“I want to show you something, and when I read it, I would “Burst out Laughing”

Done, and please, don’t ask, what do I mean. “But GOD”

So, in that quick note, in “Luke 2:49” (ASV).

It is a lot going on in both corners. A Whole Lot! That only can be “Flash”in a moment of time. For in The natural mind of man, it has to be explain only within “Volume” of The content of “Genesis to Revelation”,

Now “To him that have understanding Let Him Understand”

“the Arrow is Beyond you”. “For he that have ears to hear, let him hear”

Enjoy, Slay Peter and eat.

Are you saying those who have a hard time understanding you do so because you are speaking of things from God and that is why we can't understand? If that is what you mean then that is a real LOL moment.

 

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Hello @PloughBoy,

The Lord Jesus Christ asked his parents, '... wist ye not that I must be about My Father's business?' (Luke 2:49)

'And they understood not the saying which He spake unto them.
And He went down with them, and came to Nazareth,
and was subject unto them: ... '
(Luke 2:50-51a)

Later, when He had begun His ministry, The Lord's Mother, brothers and friends sought to remove Him, thinking He was, 'beside Himself' (Mark 3:21, Matthew 12:46). The Lord Jesus resisted all attempts made to prevent Him from fulfilling His Father's will. Saying:-

'... ... Who is My Mother? and who are My Bethren?
And He stretched forth His hand toward His disciples,
and said, "Behold My Mother and My Brethren!
For whosoever shall do the will of My Father which is in heaven,
the same is My Brother, and Sister, and Mother.'
(Mat 12:48b-50)

' Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love;
in honour preferring one another;'
(Rom 12:10)

Thank you
In Jesus Name.
Chris

' ... ... For whosever shall do the will of My Father which is in heaven,
the same is My Brother, and Sister, and Mother'
(Matthew 12:50)

Hello there, @PloughBoy and Co.,

* What is the will of the Father?

'Then said they unto Him,
"What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?"
Jesus answered and said unto them,
"This is the work of God,
that ye believe on Him Whom He hath sent."'
(John 6:28-29)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Yes the humor of Christ .There are books writen on it . laughter does good like a medicine a little wine (anything that intoxicates or invigorates ) can lighten the sufferings of the soul or stomach .The gospel the cure .

LIke for instance. . Acts 2: 15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

Seasoned with

James 2:4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

In other words its to early to call Peter a drunk . God simply did not give them His understanding of His faithfulness.

' For these are not drunken, as ye suppose,
seeing it is but the third hour of the day.'
(Act 2:15)

Hello @Garee,

Peter's counter-remark to the multitude's accusation that the Apostles were drunk, ' ... it is but the third hour of the day ... ' (above) has little meaning to us; but, I read, that it was the teaching of the Rabbi's that a man should abstain from eating and drinking on sabbath days and feast days until after morning prayers; the third hour being equivalent to 9 am., our time. So there was little likelihood that any would have either eaten or drunken before that time.

 

[Garee]

' For these are not drunken, as ye suppose,
seeing it is but the third hour of the day.'
(Act 2:15)

Hello @Garee,

Peter's counter-remark to the multitude's accusation that the Apostles were drunk, ' ... it is but the third hour of the day ... ' (above) has little meaning to us; but, I read, that it was the teaching of the Rabbi's that a man should abstain from eating and drinking on sabbath days and feast days until after morning prayers; the third hour being equivalent to 9 am., our time. So there was little likelihood that any would have either eaten or drunken before that time.

Thanks. .

 

[brighthouse98]

Honor thy mother and father, does not mean you have to do what you are told. It means you listen and consider what is said to you, not having to do it!! Example (Luke 8:19-21!) You mother and brothers wish to see you, Yea and?? LOL Jesus reply would probably not please his mother and brothers, he heard their plea, and thought of something more important!! We also can do the same and still honor them. Honoring someone does not make you a slave to them, you can do that if you wish, I choose to decide for myself what is best for me. My parents did not always like what I decided, but I did listen and consider their words to me. I honored them.

 

[PloughBoy]

Honor thy mother and father, does not mean you have to do what you are told. It means you listen and consider what is said to you, not having to do it!! Example (Luke 8:19-21!) You mother and brothers wish to see you, Yea and?? LOL Jesus reply would probably not please his mother and brothers, he heard their plea, and thought of something more important!! We also can do the same and still honor them. Honoring someone does not make you a slave to them, you can do that if you wish, I choose to decide for myself what is best for me. My parents did not always like what I decided, but I did listen and consider their words to me. I honored them.

My God, God should had used you to write the Bible it seems you have more in understanding to convey God’s truth than he does!

For, scripture makes it clear, his parents where right, he had to obey his parents if He did not obey them,he broke the law of God his FATHER!

And by breaking the Law of God He cannot be The Perfect sacrifice, but a lamb with a spot and we are still in our sins! So says The Law of GOD!

But as The Bible says, He Went back Home, and Did what ever his parents told him to do! But I will not offend The “Emily Posts” males and females by using The Vernular of The “Ghetto” Hebrew language of The ignorant people of The city called “Nazareth” to insult modern day Christianity.

“children obey your parents in everything” this is fit in the LORD!

But those who puts Christianity over The words of The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY ! Will tell you to do differently with a multitude of Explanations. “Wells without Water”, “Untempered Mortar”, “Whitewash” and when the wind blows, and The Rains come, “That Dog Ain’t going To Hunt”!

The writer said: “I been young I been Old, I have never Seen The Righteous forsaken not His seed Begging for bread”
“Begging begging begging!

Using:
[Hebrew Emphasis]

I SAID, The Writer Said

18Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.19Husbands, love your wives and do not become bitter against them.20Children, obey your parents in everything, for this is pleasing [t]to the Lord. 21Fathers, do not Colossians 3 New American Standard
Antagonise your children, so thatthey will not become discouraged.

I do declare, Modern Day Christianity acts like “GOD” of The Bible Does Not Exists!

That HIS WORD do not carry Out HIS Commands! That GOD does Not Watch Over HIS Own! And Jesus Prayers Of And By Divine Authority has No Effects Period!

Since 1977, I still believe The Same Then as I Believe, When I Hear many Christian speak and how they Think, “We Cannot Be Reading The Same Book! We CANNOT be! Or many are just plain Lying, Claiming They Have Read the Book in its entirety, many times in a orderly fashion.

For GOD is A GOD of Order.

 

[brighthouse98]

LOL All I can say is you live somewhere over the rainbow. lol and we are not under the law anymore, unless like you wish to be. (Col 3:20-21) But if parents do not follow in this, their child will rebel. And it deeply sadness to me to say that at least to me you have become an enemy to the cross. (Philp 3:18-19)

 

[PloughBoy]

LOL All I can say is you live somewhere over the rainbow. lol and we are not under the law anymore, unless like you wish to be. (Col 3:20-21) But if parents do not follow in this, their child will rebel. And it deeply sadness to me to say that at least to me you have become an enemy to the cross. (Philp 3:18-19)

I. Going to say this with Sincerity, The Majority of Those that go under the Title of a”Christian” do not Know The Difference kinds of Laws Given at “Mount Sinai” neither do they care to know them and understand why they where given. And they do not even have The desirer to even engage what was given in “The Book”. But many Parade and gloat and mock as to Condemn those who go at great lengths of details and years of Intensified study of Divine truths forsaking all, that “God” May manifest The Truth to their souls, pertaining to Redemption.

“But Happy is The Man, His delight is in “the Law of The LORD, and in His Law, doth he mediates day and night” and he shall be….ff.

“It will accomplish its regards to where it was sent”

If you did not receive this particular kind of Letter or memo, then it was not sent to you. And it did not have your name and Your address on the Envelope.
Because if it was sent to you, you would have gotten the instructions and The instructions would have accomplished for inwhich it was sent. And this conversation, would not have happen.But since it did;

“The Moral Law of GOD” have not past away, neither is it in a “Coffin”.

Heaven and Earth will pass away…ff.

“Think not that I came to destroy The Law, or the prophets; I came not to destroy but to fulfill.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till ALL be fulfilled.
AND WhoSoEver, Therefore shall break one of these least commandments, AND TEACH MEN SO, he shall be called “THE LEAST” in The Kingdom of God BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL DO AND TEACH THEM THE SAME SHALL BE CALLED GREAT IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN!

Now, do you so believe therefore you may teach whatsoever you believe.

But for me I delight in The Law of GOD.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Subject heading:- So is Honoring our Mother and Father and Elders only A Conditional of Earning That Respect as being taught today through “Christianity” if so why​

Hello @PloughBoy,

You ask a question in your subject heading. @Is honouring our Father, Mother and our Elders (only) a condition of earning respect?

It was one of the requirements of the law given through Moses to the children of Israel, by which they were to live. It set them apart from the nations around them, and encouraged order and mutual love and respect among the People of The Nation whose God is the Lord. Providing a beacon of light and bringing honour to the One who had made them a nation.

* The keeping of them brought reward from above, disobedience brought judgment.

We are not under the law, but in Christ: but how much more should our lives be so lived as to bring that same honour and glory to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the One who gave Himself for us, our Lord Jesus Christ, that we may have life through His Name.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Amen! Well said Sister!!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[brighthouse98]

Ok,I will ask this did Jesus not fulfil the law?? Do you know what was on that cross besides Jesus?? THE LAW!!!!! ( Col 2:14) Now if Jesus did not fulfil the law, then we are as you say bound by it, but I believe he did fulfil it, therefore I am not bound by a law which was not ever written to me, as I am not a Jew! The LAW was written for the lost!! And unfortunaly many jews are still lost because they follow after the Law, rather than Jesus. With some 48 years in the Lord, we elders do not expect a rebuke, in fact the Scripture warn against it. ( 1 Tim 5:1) So I hope PAL you can learn, rather than hurt my fellow brothers and sisters with your lies.

 

[PloughBoy]

Amen! Well said Sister!!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

Ok

 

[Christ4Ever]

Ok

LOL - I'm sure you and a few others disagree with what our Dear Sister posted there, but to me it was spot on.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[PloughBoy]

Subject heading:- So is Honoring our Mother and Father and Elders only A Conditional of Earning That Respect as being taught today through “Christianity” if so why​

Hello @PloughBoy,

You ask a question in your subject heading. @Is honouring our Father, Mother and our Elders (only) a condition of earning respect?

It was one of the requirements of the law given through Moses to the children of Israel, by which they were to live. It set them apart from the nations around them, and encouraged order and mutual love and respect among the People of The Nation whose God is the Lord. Providing a beacon of light and bringing honour to the One who had made them a nation.

* The keeping of them brought reward from above, disobedience brought judgment.

We are not under the law, but in Christ: but how much more should our lives be so lived as to bring that same honour and glory to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the One who gave Himself for us, our Lord Jesus Christ, that we may have life through His Name.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

You do remember they could not keep the law of God, and that was revealed by GOD in The Old Testament “Grace and Mercy” was given there too.

And “Hebrews” testified it was only a “Schoolmaster” in order to see one’s corruption, without The Law there is no Offense.

Next:
Ok, then so there is no need to be Regenerated. And “Pelagius” is right in every aspect. Man’s Being, do not have to be change to walk in the ways of God. For we all know that people of This world do walk in Love. They Marry because they are in love. They love a good way of life. They love their neighbors, they love their jobs, they love their sons and daughters, Holosexual is fair as long as they show love for each other we are not under The Law, Sons can marry their mothers, Fathers can marry their daughters, brothers can marry their sisters, we are not under the Moral Law of GOD given at Sinai. No Law no offense.

Before the Moral Law given at Sinai all this was good and fair. Every nation did it. You can marry two sisters fair game no moral law, you only need to Exercise love.

Now I know we do Establish our own laws and cherry pick, That is why Abortions rights will come back with a vengeance. The Law of The Land will Prevail, since there is no Moral law of GOD, For many have said and the earth will prevail. The Moral Law of GOD given in The Old Testament has Been abolish? and The Law of The Land will succeed. This is happening now and The Law of GOD will Not Exists in the minds of Mankind, “The Mark of The Beast” The Anti- Christ will prevail. Not long, but it Will Reign on Earth, it is reigning know.

They will past a law that you can within your own Intermediate family right here in the USA. But many of you know that, because we do keep up with current events. And this been in the makings about 8-10 years. But you know this.

It will Rule. the Law of The Anti- Christ will rule, short Time, but it will.

I just hope I’m gone! If The Moral Law of GOD is not here,, I do not want to be here!

“and they vex That Righteous Lot”!

2 Peter 2:8 (ESV).

(For as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous SOUL
[not his mind HIS SOUL]
over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard);

Where There is No Law of GOD I do not want to be there!
No Law of GOD No Fear of GOD!

When there is no Fear of GOD, MAn will do anything, he will kill and his own mother with his bear hands.!

Ask Nero, he will tell you.

Mankind is a Kingdom of “Beasts” with Restraints on Him, since sin entered The World and Adam And Evil gave Birth to This “Beast” and GOD put Restraints on The Creature, that is why babies do not have Teeth when they are Born!

When that child get Teeth, he is going to Bite! When he Clampdown
It is going to hurt!

Have any body been knock up beside the head with a glass bottle full of milk by a baby?

 

[PloughBoy]

LOL - I'm sure you and a few others disagree with what our Dear Sister posted there, but to me it was spot on.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

LOL

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear Brother, @PloughBoy
I don't think our Dear Sister @complete is saying that there is no Law...but (always a but) ...we as believers in Christ Jesus are not under the Law for Judgment's sake. I don't like talking for another, and I'm sure our Sister in Christ will correct me if I misspeak which is as it should be. However, (another way of saying but) she'd agree that the Law is righteous and is still valid or how would we know what sin is. It's how Judgment, consequences will be laid down one day for us all. We all will need an awesome Defense Attorney that day, but sadly not everyone will have one.

So, in order to be absolved according to the Law, there are certain things that are required. Out or In Christ Jesus can we be absolved of breaking the Law and if so, how? I realize depending on what Law is being spoken of, that it in turn dictates what is required, but in general certain actions are required to be done by the individual. Whether we be Gentiles or not. Is there a recourse to be forgiven or cleansed from our actions?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[PloughBoy]

Dear Brother, @PloughBoy
I don't think our Dear Sister @complete is saying that there is no Law...but (always a but) ...we as believers in Christ Jesus are not under the Law for Judgment's sake. I don't like talking for another, and I'm sure our Sister in Christ will correct me if I misspeak which is as it should be. However, (another way of saying but) she'd agree that the Law is righteous and is still valid or how would we know what sin is. It's how Judgment, consequences will be laid down one day for us all. We all will need an awesome Defense Attorney that day, but sadly not everyone will have one.

So, in order to be absolved according to the Law, there are certain things that are required. Out or In Christ Jesus can we be absolved of breaking the Law and if so, how? I realize depending on what Law is being spoken of, that it in turn dictates what is required, but in general certain actions are required to be done by the individual. Whether we be Gentiles or not. Is there a recourse to be forgiven or cleansed from our actions?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

Ok, maybe she was trying to convey, now there is no “Condemnation” to those who are in Christ.

And yes, I do not want to put words in her mouth either.

For Those who are in Christ are Secure, I believe.

but do I believe The True Child of GOD can have A radical fall? Yes But I believe it does not Effect The Perfect Work of Redemption in The Sacrificing work of “The Lamb of GOD”on the behave of that individual.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear Brother, @PloughBoy
Amen! Exactly right Dear Brother!!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

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I would think it is giving respect to God who lovingly commands us .We are under that law in Christ

Hello @Garee,

Would you please explain what you mean when you say, 'We are under that law in Christ'?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Let us also remember, our understanding “The Laws of GOD”, The Moral Law of GOD” has never been drop or annul by “The New Covenant”.

For many people think or do not understand “The Holiness of GOD” and many do not care, to spend enough time to learn of The Character of “The ALMIGHTY GOD”, and That is understandable to say “per se” “Holy Scripture”.

Hello @PloughBoy,

As a believing Gentile, I was never under the law given at Sinai, so am not subject to it: Though I am subject to the law of conscience as are all mankind. However, as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ I have been delivered from the law of sin and death - Praise God - being now under the law of the spirit of life which is in Christ Jesus, by God's grace.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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You do remember they could not keep the law of God, and that was revealed by GOD in The Old Testament “Grace and Mercy” was given there too.

And “Hebrews” testified it was only a “Schoolmaster” in order to see one’s corruption, without The Law there is no Offense.

Next:
Ok, then so there is no need to be Regenerated. And “Pelagius” is right in every aspect. Man’s Being, do not have to be change to walk in the ways of God. For we all know that people of This world do walk in Love. They Marry because they are in love. They love a good way of life. They love their neighbors, they love their jobs, they love their sons and daughters, Holosexual is fair as long as they show love for each other we are not under The Law, Sons can marry their mothers, Fathers can marry their daughters, brothers can marry their sisters, we are not under the Moral Law of GOD given at Sinai. No Law no offense.

Before the Moral Law given at Sinai all this was good and fair. Every nation did it. You can marry two sisters fair game no moral law, you only need to Exercise love.

Now I know we do Establish our own laws and cherry pick, That is why Abortions rights will come back with a vengeance. The Law of The Land will Prevail, since there is no Moral law of GOD, For many have said and the earth will prevail. The Moral Law of GOD given in The Old Testament has Been abolish? and The Law of The Land will succeed. This is happening now and The Law of GOD will Not Exists in the minds of Mankind, “The Mark of The Beast” The Anti- Christ will prevail. Not long, but it Will Reign on Earth, it is reigning know.

They will past a law that you can within your own Intermediate family right here in the USA. But many of you know that, because we do keep up with current events. And this been in the makings about 8-10 years. But you know this.

It will Rule. the Law of The Anti- Christ will rule, short Time, but it will.

I just hope I’m gone! If The Moral Law of GOD is not here,, I do not want to be here!

“and they vex That Righteous Lot”!

2 Peter 2:8 (ESV).

(For as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous SOUL
[not his mind HIS SOUL]
over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard);

Where There is No Law of GOD I do not want to be there!
No Law of GOD No Fear of GOD!

When there is no Fear of GOD, MAn will do anything, he will kill and his own mother with his bear hands.!

Ask Nero, he will tell you.

Mankind is a Kingdom of “Beasts” with Restraints on Him, since sin entered The World and Adam And Evil gave Birth to This “Beast” and GOD put Restraints on The Creature, that is why babies do not have Teeth when they are Born!

When that child get Teeth, he is going to Bite! When he Clampdown
It is going to hurt!

Have any body been knock up beside the head with a glass bottle full of milk by a baby?

'For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God,
but not according to knowledge.
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness,
and going about to establish their own righteousness,
have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.'
(Rom 10:2-4)

Hello @PloughBoy,

Thank you for your response, it is good to consider what the state of mankind would be like without the law of God. It does not bear thinking of.

Yet, speaking concerning his own countrymen, Paul spoke the words above: and stipulated that where God's righteousness is concerned, 'Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth'. Praise God! God's righteousness has been imputed to the believer in Christ Jesus, so the necessity to keep the law for righteousness is no longer a requirement for the Jews among those believers in Rome to whom Paul wrote. To the Gentiles among them: not ever having been under law given at Sinai, this would have no application, except that there were at that time Judaisers who sought to place the Gentile under law, so it was a necessary corrective even for them, as it is for us today. For we are not under law, but under grace. Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris