So, where do you stand on the question, about how old is the earth.

[Admon Mikha'el]

@Waggles -- the world 'back then' was pretty small.

Were people in this country evil continually? Romans 3:23 -- For All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

Do you believe the Tower of Babel existed? Happened.

So where Did our 24-hr day begin?

"All the world" means "all the world".

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that who so ever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life.'
What does 'the world' consist of.

If Your world has more or less that 24-hrs. in it's day -- so be it.

I Do Not attack people -- I Do present Scripture and my 'opinion' is just as valid as yours or anyone elses.

LOL This discussion is so far off topic I don't even remember what it was about....So...God did set the Earth to go on a 24 hour day... If you disagree, take it up with Him...The entire planet was flooded even over the highest mountains so of course even the Earth we know today would be Waterworld and Kevin Costners boat would be cool....But...Does nobody realize that at Noah's time the Earth did not have all these continents? It was all one continent...It was not until after the flood that the continents came about...In the days of a man named Peleg...so that sets up a few ways the flood could have been done....
Then when it comes to the people being evil continually....Which people? Who were they? There is just so much that Christians don't know, and refuse to know....

 

[Sue D.]

@Admon -- God's Word tells us that All the people back in Noahs' day were exceedingly wicked. Noah and his family were the only righteous people at that time. They were the only people in the ark.

All a person needs to do is read God's Word and observe people now days. We haven't changed much at all. There's a lot that we don't want to accept. We get used to the corruption that's all around. We feel powerless to do much about it.

 

[Waggles]

Noah and his family were the only righteous people at that time. They were the only people in the ark.

So how do we get all the different peoples of the whole world today from just eight people of one family in just 4,000 years??
Are you preaching super evolution?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

@Admon -- God's Word tells us that All the people back in Noahs' day were exceedingly wicked. Noah and his family were the only righteous people at that time. They were the only people in the ark.

All a person needs to do is read God's Word and observe people now days. We haven't changed much at all. There's a lot that we don't want to accept. We get used to the corruption that's all around. We feel powerless to do much about it.

Todays world is not quite what it was in Noah's day, Sue. The bible does not say Noah was perfect you know...It says he was perfect in his genetics....The evil people of the world were ALL nephil...They had all been corrupted by angel DNA...They were no longer human, that being the case...They were all creatures that had no right to exist, creatures that God had not made....Only Noah and his family were not corrupted...so only Noah and his family got to go into the ark....And, too, that's why God brought the animals to Noah...He knew which of them was uncorrupted. I agree that we live in an evil world but its not as evil as it was then....yet.

 

[Sue D.]

@Waggles -- I'm not 'preaching' anything. Noah and his family were told in Genesis 9:1 So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: Be fruitful and multiply , and fill the earth." Looking back at 9: 21 And the Lord smelled a soothing aroma. Then the Lord said in His heart, "I will never again curse the ground for man's sake, although the imagination of man' heart is evil from his youth, nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done."

I AM sharing God's Word with you.

Noah had 3 sons and their wives along with Noah's wife. God blessed them with children. And the generations continued on until present -day. There would have been lots More without all the abortions being done.

Your bio info says you're from South Australia -- you probably have kids the same way they did back then. And continue to populate the world just like we do here in Texas.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

So how do we get all the different peoples of the whole world today from just eight people of one family in just 4,000 years??
Are you preaching super evolution?

Many scholars believe that Shem, Ham, and Japeth were different colors....Fair, medium, and dark.... If nothing else it makes a good story... As to Noah’s colour, there is no positive statement on this anywhere in scripture, but the answer is still there indirectly. Noah’s name means `rest’. This has no colour connotation whatsoever. Noah’s sons Ham, Shem and Japheth however have several colour clues hidden in their names. Ham is definitely Hebrew for dark. Japheth is Hebrew for fair, and Shem’s name has nothing to do with colour at all. The name Shem is a word that means “name,” in this context relating to ‘he will make a name for himself’

 

[Sue D.]

Todays world is not quite what it was in Noah's day, Sue. The bible does not say Noah was perfect you know...It says he was perfect in his genetics....The evil people of the world were ALL nephil...They had all been corrupted by angel DNA...They were no longer human, that being the case...They were all creatures that had no right to exist, creatures that God had not made....Only Noah and his family were not corrupted...so only Noah and his family got to go into the ark....And, too, that's why God brought the animals to Noah...He knew which of them was uncorrupted. I agree that we live in an evil world but its not as evil as it was then....yet.

Now Admon -- God's Word says that Noah and his family were Righteous / 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." And the 'by faith' chapter 11 of Hebrews -- 11: 7 "By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith."

You Do have your thoughts about angels DNA

 

[Sue D.]

Many scholars believe that Shem, Ham, and Japeth were different colors....Fair, medium, and dark.... If nothing else it makes a good story... As to Noah’s colour, there is no positive statement on this anywhere in scripture, but the answer is still there indirectly. Noah’s name means `rest’. This has no colour connotation whatsoever. Noah’s sons Ham, Shem and Japheth however have several colour clues hidden in their names. Ham is definitely Hebrew for dark. Japheth is Hebrew for fair, and Shem’s name has nothing to do with colour at all. The name Shem is a word that means “name,” in this context relating to ‘he will make a name for himself’

Yes, it Does make for a good story. Does it really Matter what color the three sons were. They were all part of the people of that time in their coloration.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Now Admon -- God's Word says that Noah and his family were Righteous / 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." And the 'by faith' chapter 11 of Hebrews -- 11: 7 "By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith."

You Do have your thoughts about angels DNA
S
Where does the Bible say Noah was righteous? We can assume he was because Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. That's one thing I aspire to...Walk with God....Ok...So lets assume that Noah was righteous....AND he was perfect in his genetics...

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Now Admon -- God's Word says that Noah and his family were Righteous / 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." And the 'by faith' chapter 11 of Hebrews -- 11: 7 "By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith."

You Do have your thoughts about angels DNA

Well, what other DNA would corrupt mankind after angels bred with human women....It wasn't the foxes in the area...they just stole chickens.

 

[Sue D.]

@Admon -- good night Admon.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Yes, it Does make for a good story. Does it really Matter what color the three sons were. They were all part of the people of that time in their coloration.

LOL It doesn't matter to me.....I'm not racist....

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

@Admon -- good night Admon.

Good night my friend....sleep well.

 

[Garee]

This has been covered quite adequately in previous posts as to the Hebrew word 'yom" used in scripture.
It has many applications as to time and periods of time.

Hmmmm Many applications as to time and periods of time?


So then the word 'yom" represents a unknown is that what you are saying ? Can it mean whatever a person desires? How long is a day if it it is not 24 hours?

 

[Garee]

So He called and you Chose to follow....That's not by force

It would seem you forgot God is not moved by human hands as a will .God is clearly not served by human hands in any way shape or form . he can put his words on the mouth of a Ass like with Balaam to prove he is not served by corrupted human flesh and blood it profits for zero..

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


I think it would depend on the power of God seeing mankind is powerless dead in there trespass and sin without the power of God and must be born again from above The place of power where hearts are made soft .

Where our new born again hearts are there you will find believers. Its never about us but Him the powerful one .Some do boast in false pride as if what they do have was not freely given to them .

What you need as it seems is a proper understanding of who he is and what he is capable of doing.


Job 23: 12-16 Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.
But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth. For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him. Therefore am I troubled at his presence: when I consider, I am afraid of him.For God maketh my heart soft, and the Almighty troubleth me:

Who is it that makes your heart soft?

Force or by appointment? 6 of one or 1/2 dozen of another . In the end of the matter according to Job 23 and Philippian 2:12-13 working together God is of one mind and always does whatsoever his soul pleases .

If it is Christ working in you both to reveal his will and empower you do do it either you will do it with delight like Jesus the prophet or like Jonas another prophet sent with the gospel dragging him as he kicked against the pricks and wanted to die when God had finished moving him .

Philipians 2:13-14 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

Chapter 1 of Philippians informs us he is our very confidence if he has begun his good work of salvation in us he will work with us till the last day .

Jonah 4;1-3 King James Version (KJV) But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry.And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil. Therefore now, O Lord, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.

Will you kick against the pricks or will God make your heart soft like he did with the Son of man Jesus?.

 

[Shutterbug]

The burning question is how many sons and daughters could Noah and his wife have produced after the flood. I'm guessing 150. His sons and daughter-in-laws could produce another 300 or more each. And, the grandchildren would also be productive with five hundred years of fertility. It's theoretical, but possible. Living to 950 years or even 150 years is the least of Waggle's concerns. Sorry, mate.

A day was and is marked by the rising and setting of the sun, not by a clock. The clock was invented to time events such as meals and work. The calendar was invented to determine seasonal events. We only know for certain is that a division of time was used in Creation for our reference. As long as we're in agreement on their uniformity, it really doesn't matter the size of the division. The point of Genesis was to describe a creation made with deliberate planning, not to perpetuate pointless arguments.

Carbon dating is approximate at best and only works with biological matter.

 

[PloughBoy]

And they go back and fourth. And then, there was GOD.

 

[Sue D.]

Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting.