TheVermin: What really is your problem? I know what faith is. You are saved by having faith in Christ. Faith in his shed blood to be specific because without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.
Repentance leads to salvation. Repentance is a condition of your heart as in sorrow for your sinful condition and understanding that you need a savior. An example being the story of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector. The religious Pharisee who was puffed up with pride was not justified but the humble tax collector who knew he was a sinner in need of grace and in humbleness of heart pleaded for mercy was. There is the difference hence God saying he resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.
The condition for entering heaven is faith in Christ which is much more than just simple belief but a total dependance on and trust in Christ to save you since you cannot save yourself. Christ is the one who saves you and keeps you. You have nothing to boast about. You can do good works as evidence of your salvation but they will not save you. You can confess all your sins to God and you will be made more and more into the image of Christ. This is a process and it is called sanctification. If you doubt then look at the church in Corinth and how immature they were as Christians yet they were still considered to be believer's. God will never forsake you or leave you but as a child he will discipline you just like an earthly parent does. Here is the difference. When you are saved you are sealed with the Holy Spirit. You have passed from death to life eternal though Christ. There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. God's wrath only remains on the unsaved since they have not accepted Christ's payment for sin which was paid for in full on the cross. Christ did not make a partial payment. Christ said it is finished on the cross.
Those under grace are not law keepers. The law's purpose was to show what sin was. The law cannot save. I suggest you read Galatians. Those were the ones who wanted to go back under the law. Either you are under God's grace, which is unmerited favor, or you are not. Either you are trusting Christ 100 percent for your salvation or you are not. If you are trusting in yourself and your own works as in keeping the law perfectly then you are doomed and have forfeited grace. You have insulted Christ who suffered and paid the penalty on your behalf. You are striving instead of resting in Christ for your salvation.
If you choose to go back to the law then you nullify grace. The letter of the law kills but the spirit gives life. Grace means living by the spirit and not by legalistic religious requirements that only enslave and result in bondage to the law.
Then you might say does this grace give license to sin? Of course not. But one needs to be careful not to misinterpret and try to go back under the law when you were saved by God's grace and not your own works.
As for you quoting me? What's up with that? I know what depression is like and what it is like to contemplate suicide. And what I said was true and I'm not retracting it either.
God does not like hypocritical judgment. That's why we are told to examine ourselves first. Ultimately we can judge actions as right or wrong but only God can judge people's hearts since he is the only one privy to it's contents.
The reason I posted what I did is because a lot of damage can be done to people who are already depressed and hurting who happen to be believer's when they read the self-righteous comments of religious Pharisee types.
Thank you,
Repentance leads to salvation. Repentance is a condition of your heart as in sorrow for your sinful condition and understanding that you need a savior. An example being the story of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector. The religious Pharisee who was puffed up with pride was not justified but the humble tax collector who knew he was a sinner in need of grace and in humbleness of heart pleaded for mercy was. There is the difference hence God saying he resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.
The condition for entering heaven is faith in Christ which is much more than just simple belief but a total dependance on and trust in Christ to save you since you cannot save yourself. Christ is the one who saves you and keeps you. You have nothing to boast about. You can do good works as evidence of your salvation but they will not save you. You can confess all your sins to God and you will be made more and more into the image of Christ. This is a process and it is called sanctification. If you doubt then look at the church in Corinth and how immature they were as Christians yet they were still considered to be believer's. God will never forsake you or leave you but as a child he will discipline you just like an earthly parent does. Here is the difference. When you are saved you are sealed with the Holy Spirit. You have passed from death to life eternal though Christ. There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. God's wrath only remains on the unsaved since they have not accepted Christ's payment for sin which was paid for in full on the cross. Christ did not make a partial payment. Christ said it is finished on the cross.
Those under grace are not law keepers. The law's purpose was to show what sin was. The law cannot save. I suggest you read Galatians. Those were the ones who wanted to go back under the law. Either you are under God's grace, which is unmerited favor, or you are not. Either you are trusting Christ 100 percent for your salvation or you are not. If you are trusting in yourself and your own works as in keeping the law perfectly then you are doomed and have forfeited grace. You have insulted Christ who suffered and paid the penalty on your behalf. You are striving instead of resting in Christ for your salvation.
If you choose to go back to the law then you nullify grace. The letter of the law kills but the spirit gives life. Grace means living by the spirit and not by legalistic religious requirements that only enslave and result in bondage to the law.
Then you might say does this grace give license to sin? Of course not. But one needs to be careful not to misinterpret and try to go back under the law when you were saved by God's grace and not your own works.
As for you quoting me? What's up with that? I know what depression is like and what it is like to contemplate suicide. And what I said was true and I'm not retracting it either.
God does not like hypocritical judgment. That's why we are told to examine ourselves first. Ultimately we can judge actions as right or wrong but only God can judge people's hearts since he is the only one privy to it's contents.
The reason I posted what I did is because a lot of damage can be done to people who are already depressed and hurting who happen to be believer's when they read the self-righteous comments of religious Pharisee types.
Thank you,
And just by threatening a person with hell if they commit suicide, might make You an accomplice to murder if they go through with it? Read the examples in these threads. We have no idea if God and/or Satan brings about suicide for whatever reason. So try to talk about what you know; not what you wish you knew? Otherwise use question marks ?????? when you can't prove what you say. No offense. 
