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The false early rapture timing doctrine

The entire Bible is God's Word and meant for All to read

I agree

2Tim 3:16; All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

I think there is a danger when we start saying this part of the Bible, or that part of scripture doesn't apply to me.
Then we can start picking and choosing what we like and don't like and leave out the parts of the Bible that... ummm... "offend" us.
 
Well -- there Are parts that apply to Israel -- God's promised to them And the Church. But that's another subject.

There Are those who feel that Most of Scripture doesn't apply to the Church. There are Lots of 'thoughts' regarding Scripture. And there are those who simply like to debate Scripture for the sake Of debating it. And That is missing the entire point / reason we Have Scripture.

Sometimes God's standards for us and our desires don't agree. So -- which is more important -- God's standards Or our personal desires for relationships. The world of 'relationships' -- something I've been working with myself very recently.
 
The terminology 'apply' in relation to the Bible seems odd to me. You can apply rules, laws and instructions, but only a small part of the Bible is direct instruction.

I follow Jesus' teaching such as the sermon on the mount. But for many parts of scripture, it's difficult to know what it would mean to apply it. For example, how could I apply Paul's letter to Philemon?

Primarily the Bible is the story of God's plan of redemption of humankind and all creation - how Jesus, the messiah became king.

Embrace the Bible, live within it, absorb its wisdom, expire its complexities, learn how to worship and obey, understand who God is, how he works and what it means to follow him.
 
Primarily the Bible is the story of God's plan of redemption of humankind and all creation - how Jesus, the messiah became king.


We follow in those steps set down by Jesus and we become kings as well. He was the pattern Son so all should follow the pattern to come to the same outcome.
 
@Samson2020 -- no, we Don't become kings as well. Jesus Christ is the One , son of God. 'we' will never become that -- 'we' are not deity --'we' are mankind.
 
@Samson2020 -- no, we Don't become kings as well. Jesus Christ is the One , son of God. 'we' will never become that -- 'we' are not deity --'we' are mankind.
You might be mankind but I am a new creature just like my older brother and Lord Jesus Christ.
Rev 5:10 "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."
 
1 Tim 6:15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;"
 
I'm part of mankind And am a born again believer -- a new creation Spiritually - yes -- but Still part of Mankind. No one becomes an equal to the Lord Jesus Christ. You're referring to as a born again believer 'we' become a son / daughter of God.-- God is our Heavenly Father -- He's not our Earthly Father. You're suggesting that because Jesus Christ is the Son of God -- that 'we' would follow suit. Big difference is that Jesus Christ is the 2nd part of the Godhead -- The Son of God. 'we' do not attain become deity. Jesus Christ didn't need to be 'saved' in order to become the Son of God. A big difference between The son of God and becoming a son/ daughter of God as a result Of our salvation.

In the future -- Future -- during the 1,000 yr reign of Christ here on earth.
 
@Samson2020 -- go back to vs 13 in 1 Tim 6- Jesus Christ is being referred to.

A king of the King is still a king, and a JOINT HEIR OF GOD along with the Lord. Are we not expecting our Father to freely give us ALL things for it is his good pleasure?

Romans 8:32 "He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?"
Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Fathers good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

Gal 4:7 " Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ."

Romans 8:17 "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may
be also glorified together."

We shall see him as he is because we shall be LIKE HIM. He is a Life giving Spirit.
How does one become a joint heir with Christ unless he is just as Christ, with one exception. we are subject unto him who is subject unto his Father.

Remember that he was made sin who knew no sin so that we who knew sin could become the righteousness of God in him. He traded his righteousness for our sin
and in return we traded our sin for his righteousness. We stand and fall according to this righteousness which is Gods righteousness by faith.
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."
 
Just so you realize that no person Becomes a Son of God -- only Jesus Christ has that distinction. He is the Only One who died on the cross -- took our sins upon Himself -- died with them , was buried and rose again the 3rd day.
 
Just so you realize that no person Becomes a Son of God -- only Jesus Christ has that distinction. He is the Only One who died on the cross -- took our sins upon Himself -- died with them , was buried and rose again the 3rd day.

Hebrews 12:6 "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receives."

Just to be clear
God= LORD, KING
Jesus=Lord,King
Us= lords,kings

Jesus=Son
Us= sons

This is only a denotation of authority like King, Prince (1st born), princes 2nd born and after.

Jesus Christ was the first begotten of the dead and the first of the new creation of God Rev 3:14 I really am sorry you cannot see this for it is wonderful. But things
are hid from some eyes though it be right in front of them. I know, for the hidden manna was not revealed to me until I was allowed to overcome what was
required to be overcome in order to receive this hidden manna.
 
Samson2020 -- I Do see a lot of things. So in order to be able to 'see' what You're seeing -- I need to overcome whatever it is to be overcome and then I'll be able to understand this 'hidden manna"

That's not even Scriptural. So will leave this conversation.
 
Samson2020 -- I Do see a lot of things. So in order to be able to 'see' what You're seeing -- I need to overcome whatever it is to be overcome and then I'll be able to understand this 'hidden manna"

That's not even Scriptural. So will leave this conversation.

Try Rev 2:17 and then tell me that its not scriptural again.
 
Man was made a little lower than angels for the suffering of death as was Jesus. But man will eventually judge angels, so man must become higher than angels.
When the change comes we are to be like Jesus as stated in 1 John 3:2. This is scriptural and factual. Mankind was not made mankind to stay mankind forever.
 
You appear to be reading Into Scripture that which isn't there. And , yes, those verses Are there. But it's how a person Applies verses.
 
You appear to be reading Into Scripture that which isn't there. And , yes, those verses Are there. But it's how a person Applies verses.

Thats what I mean about not being able to see. Its right there in front of you, you read it and still can't see/understand it. Thats fine, but it is scriptural.
 
Man was made a little lower than angels for the suffering of death as was Jesus. But man will eventually judge angels, so man must become higher than angels.
When the change comes we are to be like Jesus as stated in 1 John 3:2. This is scriptural and factual. Mankind was not made mankind to stay mankind forever.

It actually says Jesus was made lower than the angels... "for a little while". But Jesus created the Earth, Universe and everything in it.
We will be "like Jesus" in the sense we will be immortal and no longer sin. We do not become God.

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.
Rev 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,
Rev 21:4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away."
Rev 21:5 And He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." And He *said, "Write, for these words are faithful and true."
Rev 21:6 Then He said to me, "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost.
Rev 21:7 "He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son.

When all is said and done, and the end of the age comes. Men will still be men (verse 3 above) and God will still be God (verse 7 above).
If everyone becomes God, then there is no God. There can't be a supreme being if everyone is equally supreme.

Rev 21:22; I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

Men won't be the temple in the New Jerusalem, only God/Jesus will be the temple. So we won't be like Jesus in every way.

Rev 22:2; in the middle of its street. On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Rev 22:3; There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him;

The bond-servants (Christians) will still serve Him even in heaven. We won't all be equal. He will be on a throne.

There are more passages similar to this in various places.

The primary sin of Satan, was that he wanted to be God. The sin of many people in the world today is that they want to be God.

Isa 14:12; "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning (Lucifer) , son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
Isa 14:13; "But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north.
Isa 14:14; 'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'
 
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