i'll leave you to your facts.
Now, this Thread is about The Homosexual Agenda, and its a fact that you are not discussing the Topic of the Thread.
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Now, this Thread is about The Homosexual Agenda, and its a fact that you are not discussing the Topic of the Thread.
Final answer.
Why would God say this to Cain?When God said that to Cain, there was no Cross of Christ.
Maybe you dont realize this, @Curtis.
Its time you do.
See, when Cain was killing Abel, there as no Cross of Christ. There was no Gospel of the Grace of God. THere was no New Covenant.., There was not even the Law of Moses or 10 Commandments, yet.
Maybe its time you realize all that ??? If you possibly can.
"Jesus never mentioned the word gay or any reference to it or the action ever." Untrue.I guess I should share some observations and thoughts. Just to raise some eyebrows and blood pressures Jesus never mentioned the word gay or any reference to it or the action ever. All knowing and all seeing Jesus Christ left this portion of law establishment blank. There is no doubt there is law associated with the condition but not one mentioned by Jesus. Now that bears consideration but it can never bear argument, Jesus Rules. Considering is not deciding it is the action of consideration. That statement alone will produce controversy and contention but not contained within a faith that Jesus Christ is the author of.
Now let me observe something about the agenda which is what the thread is about. The agenda is an offense. It is an intrusion on the sacred psyche of individuals and seeks to establish a new bullying approach to that sacredness as legitimate conduct, not just legitimate but even right. That is a condescending position of conceit and dominance. Now that is something Jesus did condemn when confronting the pressure tactics of the pharisees. So objectionable did our Lord find it that the pharisees who displayed this character were the only group exhibiting the only sin nature wholly and completely condemned. Gay is personal. That doesn't excuse it or bless it but it does say as is inferred by the absence of Jesus's addressing of it that the Spirit of Jesus Christ is standing with the same sacred respect for the individual that the gay agenda so solidly disrespects. The agenda disgraces every soul that would stand separately with a stance and a place of it's own will that does not agree with theirs. A ravaging, desecrating, bullying character standing on the edge of violence and sometimes even crossing the line.
As I remarked at introduction the statement would produce some controversy. As stated further on in the post there IS LAW. So let's get deeper into LAW. Consider Mathew 5. Consider the concept in depth of these words spoken by the mouth that created the universe with further inference by the eternal authority of His Person that every inflection of meaning however subtle and slight is universal and cosmic in implication ( He Is The Truth). Truth is incorporated in His very person. In that perspective lets consider this preamble of Jesus Christ ( YOU HAVE HEARD IT SAID ) now you can fill in the blanks of the topics He addressed. Then consider this statement ( Don't think I have come to abolish the law. I have not come to abolish but to fulfill ). So now I should throw some testimony out here but first why is testimony important? Here is a reality, where a new perspective is offered different than that of the audience a sound witness is required to convey the new view. A witness is in fact a requirement for the conveyance so declares Scripture. It is just a condition of life and of a different perspective as a whole. So here goes."Jesus never mentioned the word gay or any reference to it or the action ever." Untrue.
We don't know every single word He said. We do know God's stance on all sins and b/c "Jesus IS God" therefore He has spoken on it. Why you and so many make this false argument is laughable.
That's the excuse people who DO support the Alphabet sins always regurgitate.
God set the human standard with Adam and Eve.
One man to one woman. Heterosexuality.
Everything else is a sin, abnormal, evil, disgusting, perverted, depraved, etc.
No book can contain EVERY second of Jesus life let alone anyone, Disciples, their Disciples, etc.
God made the Bible SIMPLE.
) Immediately I understood fully that right and wrong are not rules and for their simple obedience. Sin is not that. Sin is sin because it offends Love itself. If a thing cannot stand in Love's presence without offending Love it is sin no matter what it is. Love is above the rules and is in fact the true foundation of the rules.
Love is above the rules and is in fact the true foundation of the rules.
There is no doubt there is law associated with the condition but not one mentioned by Jesus.
There is no inference of engaging in sin as justified only that sin like Love is both deeper and higher than the perspective you have taken or that anyone truly can take.
So let me try to adjust the focus to the deeper place. Jesus Christ is more than The Word as you are referencing. The creation of all of existence is found in His sacrifice. It is for this reason we give Him full Faith with total confidence. ( Slain from the foundation of the world ). Now this expands His substance and meaning far beyond The Bible which is meant for our instruction and has as it's boundaries human perception.That depends on how you view the Bible.
John 1:1; In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2; He was in the beginning with God.
If Jesus is the Word ( the Bible ). Then there is nothing in the Bible that Jesus didn't say.
Rev 19:13; He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
WOW CONCEIT AND DECEIT The foundation of this authors life. Where will the announced aspirations take him I wonder? A place of Peace? This is mournfully sad and comes from a horrific place of pain already. It only has the promise of more pain and grief to come. The devil himself should have signed it.THE HOMOSEXUAL MANIFESTO
By Michael Swift, .. Reprinted from The Congressional Record of the United States Congress. February 15-21 1987
“We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.
Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep. Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of with men. Then go and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they have never known because we are foremost men too, and only one man knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand the depth and feeling, the mind and body of another man
. All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men. All homosexuals must stand together as brothers; we must be united artistically, philosophically, socially, politically and financially. We will triumph only when we present a common face to the vicious heterosexual enemy. “If you dare to cry ******, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies. We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in which man openly caresses man; we shall make films about the love between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial, entimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently dominating your cinema screens. We shall sculpt statues of beautiful young men, of bold athletes which will be placed in your parks, your squares, your plazas. The museums of the world will be filled only with paintings of graceful, naked lads.
Our writers and artists will make love between men fashionable and de rigueur, and we will succeed because we are adept at setting styles. We will eliminate heterosexual liaisons through usage of the Redeeming the Rainbow 203 devices of wit and ridicule, devices which we are skilled in employing.
We will unmask the powerful homosexuals who masquerade as heterosexuals. You will be shocked and frightened when you find that your presidents and their sons, your industrialists, your senators, your mayors, your generals, your athletes, your film stars, your television personalities, your civic leaders, your priests are not the safe, familiar, bourgeois, heterosexual figures you assumed them to be. We are everywhere; we have infiltrated your ranks. Be careful when you speak of homosexuals because we are always among you; we may be sitting across the desk from you; we may be sleeping in the same bed with you.
There will be no ompromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less.
Those who oppose us will be exiled. We shall raise vast private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you. We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers.
The family unit-spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy and violence--will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.
All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome young men. We adhere to a cult of beauty, moral and esthetic. All that is ugly and vulgar and banal will be annihilated. Since we are alienated from middle-class heterosexual conventions, we are free to live our lives according to the dictates of the pure imagination. For us too much is not enough.
The exquisite society to emerge will be governed by an elite comprised of gay poets. One of the major requirements for a position of power in the new society of homoeroticism will be indulgence in the Greek passion. Any man contaminated with heterosexual lust will be automatically barred from a position of influence. All males who insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexualcourts of justice and will become invisible men.
We shall rewrite history, history filled and debased with your heterosexual lies and distortions. We shall portray the homosexuality of the great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are inextricably linked, and that homosexuality is a requirement for true nobility, true beauty in a man. “We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution. “Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks."
Given the topic at hand, all of that has very little to do with their agenda.As I remarked at introduction the statement would produce some controversy. As stated further on in the post there IS LAW. So let's get deeper into LAW. Consider Mathew 5. Consider the concept in depth of these words spoken by the mouth that created the universe with further inference by the eternal authority of His Person that every inflection of meaning however subtle and slight is universal and cosmic in implication ( He Is The Truth). Truth is incorporated in His very person. In that perspective lets consider this preamble of Jesus Christ ( YOU HAVE HEARD IT SAID ) now you can fill in the blanks of the topics He addressed. Then consider this statement ( Don't think I have come to abolish the law. I have not come to abolish but to fulfill ). So now I should throw some testimony out here but first why is testimony important? Here is a reality, where a new perspective is offered different than that of the audience a sound witness is required to convey the new view. A witness is in fact a requirement for the conveyance so declares Scripture. It is just a condition of life and of a different perspective as a whole. So here goes.
As a young child ( first grade age ) I was given a great gift. I could read at that age as good as I can read right now and while my peers were raising havoc on the neighborhood I was sequestered in the basement library devouring what ever volumes I could find. During that exploration of ideas and emotions I came across a volume that contained the most interesting examples of perspectives of the brightest minds in our earthly historical realm. The book was called The Dictionary of Thoughts. It is a book of historical people of renown with their opinions arranged alphabetically by topics. The book is out of print now though still available on Amazon. Now why is that important? I do believe that God preambles our lives with predetermined dispositions and adds experiences that amplifies the seed He has planted within. My parents were Catholic and to say they were stern would be a gross understatement of their application of LAW. Such a stern application that one could not help but feel the weight personally and deeply. So what does this have to do with our topic and our relationship to the Law? It was then and is now an IMPOSSIBILITY to behave yourself into correctness. In fact trying to do so will crush us and destroy our esteem an injure us sometimes deeply even mortally. So during this duress I finally picked up another book that had been sitting on the table in front of me the whole time I was in the basement exploring ideas and differing perspectives, it was our family Bible. So quite depressed and beaten I opened it. When I did The Bible opened right at Mathew 5 ( The Beatitudes ) and I read this ( You have heard it said ) Immediately I understood fully that right and wrong are not rules and for their simple obedience. Sin is not that. Sin is sin because it offends Love itself. If a thing cannot stand in Love's presence without offending Love it is sin no matter what it is. Love is above the rules and is in fact the true foundation of the rules. So lets consider this deeply ( GOD IS LOVE ). I will leave out a reference to the First Commandment but I am introducing it's meaning and depth at the same time.
I'm going to go further and jump into some of the substance of the term Faith. I'm going to do it only with a questioning statement meant only for personal exploration of the concept. So here goes. Life is in our questions and as are all questions asked in humility. But death immediately inhabits the answers the moment we stand on them. All of science and human progress demonstrates this condition as real and true or as Jesus puts it before the pharisees ( Because you say you know your sin remains ) There is an awful lot to all of this but it is well worth examination and exploration. Thanks for your time and interest MedicBrovo. It is good to talk, good to care, good to Love and good to pray. So grateful for your conversation. The ultimate destination of it all is prayer and praise. In the life of the faithful that checks all the boxes our limited reasoning can rightly ascend to. Before these facts that I know to be true who am I? Who can I ever be before THESE RULES and LAWS founded on Love's perfect expression? The Spirit of the question is my right place not the spirit of the answers that are always cheap and easy compared to The Spirit of Jesus Christ.
BTW I missed the fact that you accused my position as supporting sin and adding to that your own adjective of laughable. What sin is supported and just how is that done by me?"Jesus never mentioned the word gay or any reference to it or the action ever." Untrue.
We don't know every single word He said. We do know God's stance on all sins and b/c "Jesus IS God" therefore He has spoken on it. Why you and so many make this false argument is laughable.
That's the excuse people who DO support the Alphabet sins always regurgitate.
God set the human standard with Adam and Eve.
One man to one woman. Heterosexuality.
Everything else is a sin, abnormal, evil, disgusting, perverted, depraved, etc.
No book can contain EVERY second of Jesus life let alone anyone, Disciples, their Disciples, etc.
God made the Bible SIMPLE.
I'm not so sure of that. Like a popular Christian song proclaims Love is the armor. The hearts that follow that urging will stay close to the shepherd and avoid the agenda. This one or anyone's.Given the topic at hand, all of that has very little to do with their agenda.
Jesus Christ is more than The Word as you are referencing.