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The Law to Bear Arms, the law of the land

Why are we speaking, you do not understand the concept of word’s, especially concerning The “Bibical Texts” that be in question, and neither have you exhausted your past age concerning time in such labors.

Our discussions would be as if,Two “ Barbarians trying to communicate a impossible task! Wasting Considerable unethical time, orchestrated.

And that time, could well be used by both Riders, in other forms of “Dressage’s”.:pensive:
I shall trust the Lord to help me to overlook your offenses, be it intended or not.

May God bless you & keep you. May He shine His face upon you and give you His peace.
 
Hmmm.... most right thinking UK citizens look at the USA's psyche and fascination with guns including the church's muted support for the carrying and use of guns with something between bemusement and incredulity. The UK of course has the strictest gun control laws in the world, there's no hand guns, assault rifles of semi-automatics; you're only allowed single and double barrelled shot guns and to get one of those you have to go through background, psychological strict checks, and a visit from the police to check that you have a lockable gun cabinet and good levels of house security. Guns can only be used for hunting and target practice, to keep one for self protection is a no no. These laws are widely supported and there's no audible calls for any relaxation.

When we see gun death stats from over the pond, we're wondering what's going on there that people are so anti gun control and the arguments put forward seem to make no sense. What I can't grasp is why the church in the USA is so quiet on this subject. From the newsfeeds I see that the population is divided on the subject but if anything, the church tends to veer towards anti-gun control.

The most relevant verse that we can add to the OP's list is Matthew 5:38-40 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

What's your take on this debate, from a Christian perspective?

Conflicted. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword but the 2nd AMENdment says, The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed. But is regulation infringement?

18 yearolds are not allowed to consume alcohol because some think they are not mature enough but they can purchase assault weapons. Again, I'm conflicted. The question I ask myself is when Jesus returns what will he be carrying? A sword or an AR-15?
 
Conflicted. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword but the 2nd AMENdment says, The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed. But is regulation infringement?

18 yearolds are not allowed to consume alcohol because some think they are not mature enough but they can purchase assault weapons. Again, I'm conflicted. The question I ask myself is when Jesus returns what will he be carrying? A sword or an AR-15?
Well to make this country what is today and to arrive to “The Consitution of These U.S.A. It took kids very young with Muskets, FireArms killing people for to be where we are in “America” today! It is all over The WORLD, The Politicians the people who are the Real Destroyers of This World, and not kids with “Automatic weapons” it is The “Elite”! It is “Greed” not “Crumbs” that fall from their table!

“My people, WOMEN lead and and They who lead you, lead you astray”

Christianity is mix with so much error that it cannot Believe “GODS WORD”is “TRUTH”!

“Spiritual Wickedness in High places”

But in essence religious people cannot preceive This and those who only wear the garments.
And are not “True sons”:pensive:
Most of “Christianity” Do Not Believe This! And it goes with great power to wash this away! And GOD is not smart enough to make HIS WORD clear! that even the ignorant child cannot perceive.

“As for My people, children are their oppressors, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who lead you cause you to err, And destroy the way of your paths.
 
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Conflicted. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword but the 2nd AMENdment says, The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed. But is regulation infringement?

18 yearolds are not allowed to consume alcohol because some think they are not mature enough but they can purchase assault weapons. Again, I'm conflicted. The question I ask myself is when Jesus returns what will he be carrying? A sword or an AR-15?
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

However the Lord does it by the brightness of His coming, the enemy will be destroyed.
 
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

However the Lord does it by the brightness of His coming, the enemy will be destroyed.
Jesus at His first coming was peaceful and gentle; however, at the Second Coming, Jesus will return with His army from heaven. There will not be any meekness this time as Jesus will be a warrior with a double-edged sword (Revelation 1:16). The Book of Revelation talks at great length about the Second Coming of Christ. Heads will roll! I have to wonder why God didn't vanquish evil the moment Lucifer started the rebellion,

God won't be screwing around when it comes to his righteous wrath. “And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground” (Jeremiah 25:33).
 
Jesus at His first coming was peaceful and gentle; however, at the Second Coming, Jesus will return with His army from heaven. There will not be any meekness this time as Jesus will be a warrior with a double-edged sword (Revelation 1:16). The Book of Revelation talks at great length about the Second Coming of Christ. Heads will roll! I have to wonder why God didn't vanquish evil the moment Lucifer started the rebellion,

God won't be screwing around when it comes to his righteous wrath. “And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground” (Jeremiah 25:33).
Thanks for sharing.

Incidentally, the original name of Satan was not Lucifer. It is generally believed because of misreading the scripture which was about a man that was a boastful Babylonian king for why He was to fall and his corpse will be left unburied too. So not Satan.

Isaiah 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Verse 12 originally did not have Lucifer in the Greek manuscripts but it came from the Latin Vulgate as the KJV's reference to the planet Venus, the morning star. That is why all Alexandrian manuscripts and modern bibles from it, do not have that reference of Lucifer in it at all.

So not only Christians have it wrong, but Freemasons, and Satanists as well. Just a bit of truth so we are not still moving that falsehood around.
 
Where to we draw the line? Muskets are a far cry from modern weapons of war. Should we regulate who can have one? Should women have guns? They get PMS and act crazy. What about retards? What about the mentally ill? What about people with DWI arrests? What about pot heads? We would not want them transporting people on planes and buses. Is it not the responsibility of government to protect good folks from bad folks.

What manner of armament is acceptable for non military folks. 50 cal machine guns? RPGs? Elon Musk and Bill Gate could afford an air craft carrier. Would that be OK?

Some are proposing that we arm children in schools because the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. It's called the Kinder Guardians Program. Godly Republicans Philip Van Cleave support, Joe Walsh, Trent Lott Larry Pratt. Matt Gaetz, Dana Rohrabacher, Joe Wilson, all support the program because little kids are not corrupted by fake liberal news and the homosexual agenda. But is this a slippery slope having government involved in training kids on how to use guns? There is no age limit of the 2nd Amendment.
Who kill the most people with guns or those those of us who Capitalize on greed, gluttony, and remain silent and not cry In a great up roar and demand that the world take notice.

But scream out because a little handful die by gun fire!
But still ignore on going wars because of pride but not a lack of food.

 
Where to we draw the line? Muskets are a far cry from modern weapons of war. Should we regulate who can have one? Should women have guns? They get PMS and act crazy. What about retards? What about the mentally ill? What about people with DWI arrests? What about pot heads? We would not want them transporting people on planes and buses. Is it not the responsibility of government to protect good folks from bad folks.
But what happens when someone good goes bad? What then? There are some things we should trust the Lord with rather than trust the government to solve that problem.
What manner of armament is acceptable for non military folks. 50 cal machine guns? RPGs? Elon Musk and Bill Gate could afford an air craft carrier. Would that be OK?
Those pesky groundhogs. Say goodbye to that hole in the ground and say hello to a bigger hole!!! All joking aside, since the government is of the people, by the people and for the people, then should the people be ready for war at any moment? What happens if that Iran, Russia, China and other countries drilling in Venezuela, wind up with missing troops as the assassins are crossing the border from Mexico and landing on the beach in Florida to sow chaos in America? Why should the people wait for the military to come to the rescue when they can arm themselves to fight off the invaders too?
Some are proposing that we arm children in schools because the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. It's called the Kinder Guardians Program. Godly Republicans Philip Van Cleave support, Joe Walsh, Trent Lott Larry Pratt. Matt Gaetz, Dana Rohrabacher, Joe Wilson, all support the program because little kids are not corrupted by fake liberal news and the homosexual agenda. But is this a slippery slope having government involved in training kids on how to use guns? There is no age limit of the 2nd Amendment.
I think some are allowing teachers to be armed now. That should give pause to all those trigger happy students out there.

But for arming kids? No. The responsibility should be given to all the adults. Try that first. Some kids may use guns to bully or to avenge themselves against bullying and so kids are not ready for the responsibility of being armed yet.
 
Who are we worrying about dying! By a little gun fire, but is harmful too! Are they more evil than we are, are we just as guilty?
Am I better than than them?….because I don’t kill people with bullets and automatic weapons?

Over 9 Million people a year are murder by hunger.
 
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