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The LORD is Orderly. GOD is A GOD of Order and everything goes according to his will whether the event is wicked or HOLY it has been approved by GOD

But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil

Twistie
But God didn't say that, Twistie. Job did. And Job was wrong.

And I'm not sure why you think this verse is appropriate, in that you are a woman, and I am not.

Rhema
(2 Corinthians 1:20 KJV) For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.​

Are you trying to tell me that I am wrong to lay hands on others and heal them?

May God bring his promise of healing to you, that you may glorify God.
 
People just do not go out and cast out demons, they have to be given a direct command by GOD at that very time.
That's not how I have found it to work.

How many have you cast out? My apologies, allow me to rephrase... How many direct commands by God have you received to cast out demons?

Thanks,
Rhema
 
But God didn't say that, Twistie. Job did. And Job was wrong.

And I'm not sure why you think this verse is appropriate, in that you are a woman, and I am not.

Rhema
(2 Corinthians 1:20 KJV) For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.​

Are you trying to tell me that I am wrong to lay hands on others and heal them?

May God bring his promise of healing to you, that you may glorify God.
Are you so full of pride that u must try n make people see your god that u follow ?
Your god is limited mine is unlimited ur god according to u has no control ova evil.. everything is under my Father.. For nothing can happen with out MY Father allowing it.. u see with the eyes of the flesh you hear with the ears of flesh.. your so busy trying to memorize n dissect words of the word that you try n learn the Word through your intellectual mind set..

I've told u before Rhema I know what you are.. but apparently you think I'm naive to you..will u Eva go full into the Truth that idk but I do know u run amok in darkness n you R one who lust's for souls not for YH but for you own gratification...

So again I ask stay out of my convos stop trying to lead me n YHs other children astray..

May YH rebuke u n those who follow your false teachings...


Twistie :broken_heart:
 
New International Version
“He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them.”
New International Version
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
New International Version
They know nothing, they understand nothing; their eyes are plastered over so they cannot see, and their minds closed so they cannot understand.

Berean Standard Bible
having a form of godliness but denying its power. Turn away from such as these!
How do I get a troll of my back in this forum .. apparently it's not adult enough to back away ??n I have not time for it's nonsense

Twistie :expressionless:
 
@PloughBoy
Greetings,

regarding the following....

Each person to his own, I Have My Own Father and The words he has spoken to me, is between me and him, and another will have their conversation with their own father, sure as well

no.

This is not right nor correct and i am sure you know.

WE have our FATHER.
One Body many members
which part can say to another
no need of you!
If that be so, can one say likewise to you?

Please do not reply with a long, highlighted, all caps, extra size font, answer... but go quietly to your closet and see if you have your own Father or you know Our Father.

Jesus is the Lord


Bless you ....><>
 
New American Standard Bible
The mind of a person plans his way, But the LORD directs his steps.

Proverbs 19:21
Many plans are in a man's heart, but the purpose of the LORD will prevail.
Jeremiah 10:23
I know, O LORD, that a man's way is not his own; no one who walks directs his own steps.

A man thinks, That he is The Captain of His soul, He thinks, He is The Potter, He thinks, He is not a sinner and walks in Total darkness and All his life, He is deceive in all of his thoughts and in all of his ways, He thinks, but he knows Nothing but deceptions and darkness, in all of his thoughts. His wisdom is nothing but deception, he is dead in trespasses and Sin, Total ignorant, he has no idea, what is going on.:pensive:

He knows nothing.:pensive: and it is sad.
I do understand what you mean, brother. God does direct. But it still will not stop a person from walking away from God's preferred path. As He only wants the best for all.

If you think Jesus or the Father wanted Judas to betray Jesus, then you would be wrong. If you think God wanted Satan or Adam (& Eve) to fail, you would be wrong.

God does not want any calamity to befall us, it is our sins that bring it.this is why confessing your sins to God is so important
 
1Tim 2:3; This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Tim 2:4; who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2Pet 3:9; The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

... and yet He knows all men won't be saved... not even the majority.

Jas 1:13; Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.
Jas 1:14; But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust.

... when you give in to sin, it's your own fault. God doesn't make you sin.

Matt 7:13; "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
Matt 7:14; "For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
 
It's a small mind that believes God has to be in control of all our decisions.
My God is more powerful than that, He is in control even when I have free-will.

Gen 2:16; The LORD God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely;
Gen 2:17; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."

God told the man not to eat from the tree. .. but what does man do?

Gen 3:6; When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.

If God told them not to eat this fruit, and He made them eat it, then He is a liar.

On the other hand.... if they ate of their own free-will.. and God is still God... that means He is God no matter what decisions we make.

Being sovereign doesn't mean I have to control everything you do. It means I'm in control despite whatever you do.
 
I do understand what you mean, brother. God does direct. But it still will not stop a person from walking away from God's preferred path. As He only wants the best for all.

If you think Jesus or the Father wanted Judas to betray Jesus, then you would be wrong. If you think God wanted Satan or Adam (& Eve) to fail, you would be wrong.

God does not want any calamity to befall us, it is our sins that bring it.this is why confessing your sins to God is so important
Well, I will be wrong, and I will walk right beside the Bible, The WORD of GOD throughout eternity, For God the Father "decreed" For His Son Jesus to Died A violent Death on A Tree, and He decreed That The Human Would Fall in The Garden, and He decreed That Judas Would Betray HIS Only Son for "Thirty Pieces of Sliver, And he decreed, that Mankind would not know what He is doing, and He decreed, That Humanity would walk-in Darkness and Not see the "LIGHT" that shines In Darkness. And He decreed That The Adversary would deceived "The Whole WORLD". And He Decreed, That HIS SON would come into This World to Save only Those that The Father had Chosen to Be Saved and to Be conform into the "IMAGE GOD" in The Person Of Our LORD and Savior, The second Part Of "The Triune GOD" and When we see Him we Will be In the "Image of GOD", "The Imago Dei" "Coram Deo", the one That The Father shape us into and only us, in "the Image of GOD' "The END":pensive: And it Took "ALL Creation" every drop,, The Good and The bad, The wicked, and The Perverse, The Mountains and The Hills, The rain drops and The Oceans, The Fire and the wind, The cold and the heat, It Has taken ALL Creation, every Grain of Sand, every blade of Grass, every Twig and every Bush, and "The Triune GOD" to Creature us into "The IMAGO DEO"

Now, are you with me or against me?:pensive:


Your Choice, You choose.:) Which side of the fence, and I am standing on "the right", choose The "Full Shared Inheritance" of Everything The FATHER has, Through out All ETERNITY, When Heaven and EARTH has All been destroyed, even Time itself will begone, the stars and the Moon will be no more, even the very air we breath will be Gone. And Our Father has give us ALL he Has! No end even after Trillions and Trillions of Light Years and We will not reach the End of Our Kingdom that we have Inherit from Our Father!:eyes:

Now wrap your Mortal Mind Around That! Take your Time, Because your mind is going to Hit A Wall. The Finite mind cannot go that far. it goes Blank, Into The Plans Of "The ALMIGHTY GOD" That He Planned before, there was A CREATION.:sob:

And his Plan Goes further than All Creation, For Creation is Only The Beginning of Something Far greater Than The Human mind can Conceive or Comprehend or even Imagine. and that plan goes way beyond heaven where Angels Live. way Beyond The Throne Of GOD which is In Heaven, For Heaven is His Throne
[ Chair] And earth is His [Foot Stool}. :pensive: and that is Only "Anthropomorphic":pensive:
 
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Where is this in the Bible? Or are you just making it up?
Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’: “Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field. In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall retur
 
Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’: “Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field. In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall retur

OK.... where is the decree that mankind would fall?
 
OK.... where is the decree that mankind would fall?
Well if ya can't see it then I'd say ponder with YH He can show ya

Do you realize what we were before the fall of Adam?

He seen the Angels He could Here the Angels He talked to YH they were friends..

Can you even imagine??

Twistie
 
Well if ya can't see it then I'd say ponder with YH He can show ya

Do you realize what we were before the fall of Adam?

He seen the Angels He could Here the Angels He talked to YH they were friends..

Can you even imagine??

People talked to Angels after the fall, in both the OT and the NT.
I can talk to God now. I don't have to imagine.
 
Where is this in the Bible? Or are you just making it up?
Because Our GOD is "SOVEREIGN" and there is nothing More to say in describing Him. There is no where else To Go, For many only Know The word "GOD" and they know The Word that is describe by a man made Dictionary and that is all many know, and if they knew , why would they apply "Attributes". to a "SOVEREIGN" as if he were a man.:pensive: and if he is at "WAR" with any kind of created Creature. Even common sense cannot declare such foolishness. "For He was confounds The wisdom of The Wise, especially those who can define "GOD" and His ways:pensive:

Psalms 2 NIV
1Why do the nations conspire
and the peoples plot in vain?
2The kings of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against THE LORD and AGAINST HIS ANOINTED,:eyes: saying, [They have lost their minds]:sob: his will is always done. whether it be Good or bad.
3“Let us break their chains
and throw off their shackles.”
4The One Enthroned In Heaven Laughs;:sob::sob::sob: [like he have not decreed the beginning to The ending!]

It is such a Thing as Growing In Christ through Holiness and
Sanctification . do a 5 year or a 10 year old child knows more that a 50 year old man? you grow in Christ and that growth gets to a point in Christ that we:


English Standard Version 1 Corinthians 13:11
"When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways."

Why would a person need to explain this simple "TRUTH" below.


English Revised Version Hebrews 6:1 KJV
Wherefore Let Us Cease to speak of The First Principles Of Christ, and press on unto perfection; Not Laying Again a foundation of repentance from dead works, and Of Faith Toward God,:pensive:

Has this become so hard to
remember ? How many years 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 ,50 years in Christ before one comes out of "Grade School" of The school of Jesus Christ and Move on and leave the simpleness of this world and Press on to "The High Calling in Christ Jesus after He has become Our LORD, far beyond knowing Him as only a "SAVIOR" and Have not grow Up to call Him Your LORD, in deed and not in Word only, "Why call me LORD LORD and you do nothing I SAY< we obey the Church, the pastor, the minsters, our wives, our Boses, our professors, and teachers, But we do not do what "GOD" the FATHER has Proclaim in a VOICE coming down from Heaven: {you grow and learn, he is not your Lord when you 1st get saved, you just now begin to learn who he is, you do not grow up in Christ in 10 years. you are not yet Grow up! and if you skip School a lot in Those 10 years,,"Guess what"? I will leave it to your imagination. "know The TRUTH and it will set you free" Free from what? " Your corrupted Mind":eyes:

[Shut up Peter !]
LUKE 9:35
…"While Peter was speaking, a cloud appeared and enveloped them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. 35And a voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is My Son, whom I have chosen. Listen to Him!”

Today , too many Peters are Speaking! When they need to shut Up!



You like that one? I Know, in your mind, you want to say: "Then shut up Peter":sob:
 
People talked to Angels after the fall, in both the OT and the NT.
I can talk to God now. I don't have to imagine.
All's I got for u is just wow

I see how that mindset of yours is


Woe b to the world n it's inhabitants for the day of the Lord draws near....


Twistie :pensive: :( :broken_heart:
 
OK.... where is the decree that mankind would fall?
Definition. God's decree is his eternal purpose in governing the universe he made to unite all things in Christ. This includes his electing a people to be united to Christ while leaving others to the consequences of their sin.


Predestination and the Divine Decree - The Gospel Coalition

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/predestination-divine-decree/#:~:text=Definition,the consequences of their sin.
The Gospel Coalition
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org › essay › predestinati...

What is decree in Bible?
Decrees [N] Decrees issued by rulers, written commands having the effect of law, and the metaphor of God as King of the world provide the imagery behind the Bible's references to God's "decrees."
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/predestination-divine-decree/#:~:text=Definition,the consequences of their sin.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/predestination-divine-decree/#:~:text=Definition,the consequences of their sin.

What Does Decrees Mean? Bible Definition and References


biblestudytools.com
https://www.biblestudytools.com › dictionary › decrees

What are the list of God's decrees?
Election, reprobation, the Fall, mercy, and justice are coordinate elements within the one divine decree. Election and reprobation do not occasion the Fall, nor does the Fall occasion election and reprobation, but they are coordinate elements logically ordered for purpose of manifesting divine glory.


Logical order of God's decrees - Wikipedia


wikipedia.org
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Logical_order_of_God'...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_order_of_God's_decrees#:~:text=Election, reprobation, the Fall,,purpose of manifesting divine glory.
What is God's righteous decree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_order_of_God's_decrees#:~:text=Election, reprobation, the Fall,,purpose of manifesting divine glory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_order_of_God's_decrees#:~:text=Election, reprobation, the Fall,,purpose of manifesting divine glory.
the righteous judgment [decree, ordinance] of God, The Greek for “righteous judgment” is decree. The decree is God's and it is His declaration of revelation, about what is right and just. The decree of His revelation is righteous or just.Feb 1, 2011



Romans 1:32 | Bible Exposition Commentary



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Oh yes how many-years does a person studies The decree of God ? He studies God's decrees a whole life time He learns about The decree of GOD and Also, Throughout all Eternity where there is No End to The decree of The God ALMIGHTY":pensive:


Our Father is no joke, where our knowledge comes to an end about HIM:eyes: we learn every day about His "Decree".:pensive:
 
Because Our GOD is "SOVEREIGN" and there is nothing More to say in describing Him. There is no where else To Go, For many only Know The word "GOD" and they know The Word that is describe by a man made Dictionary and that is all many know, and if they knew , why would they apply "Attributes". to a "SOVEREIGN" as if he were a man.:pensive: and if he is at "WAR" with any kind of created Creature. Even common sense cannot declare such foolishness. "For He was confounds The wisdom of The Wise, especially those who can define "GOD" and His ways:pensive:

Psalms 2 NIV
1Why do the nations conspire
and the peoples plot in vain?
2The kings of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against THE LORD and AGAINST HIS ANOINTED,:eyes: saying, [They have lost their minds]:sob: his will is always done. whether it be Good or bad.
3“Let us break their chains
and throw off their shackles.”
4The One Enthroned In Heaven Laughs;:sob::sob::sob: [like he have not decreed the beginning to The ending!]

It is such a Thing as Growing In Christ through Holiness and
Sanctification . do a 5 year or a 10 year old child knows more that a 50 year old man? you grow in Christ and that growth gets to a point in Christ that we:


English Standard Version 1 Corinthians 13:11
"When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways."

Why would a person need to explain this simple "TRUTH" below.


English Revised Version Hebrews 6:1 KJV
Wherefore Let Us Cease to speak of The First Principles Of Christ, and press on unto perfection; Not Laying Again a foundation of repentance from dead works, and Of Faith Toward God,:pensive:

Has this become so hard to
remember ? How many years 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 ,50 years in Christ before one comes out of "Grade School" of The school of Jesus Christ and Move on and leave the simpleness of this world and Press on to "The High Calling in Christ Jesus after He has become Our LORD, far beyond knowing Him as only a "SAVIOR" and Have not grow Up to call Him Your LORD, in deed and not in Word only, "Why call me LORD LORD and you do nothing I SAY< we obey the Church, the pastor, the minsters, our wives, our Boses, our professors, and teachers, But we do not do what "GOD" the FATHER has Proclaim in a VOICE coming down from Heaven: {you grow and learn, he is not your Lord when you 1st get saved, you just now begin to learn who he is, you do not grow up in Christ in 10 years. you are not yet Grow up! and if you skip School a lot in Those 10 years,,"Guess what"? I will leave it to your imagination. "know The TRUTH and it will set you free" Free from what? " Your corrupted Mind":eyes:

[Shut up Peter !]
LUKE 9:35
…"While Peter was speaking, a cloud appeared and enveloped them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. 35And a voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is My Son, whom I have chosen. Listen to Him!”

Today , too many Peters are Speaking! When they need to shut Up!



You like that one? I Know, in your mind, you want to say: "Then shut up Peter":sob:
Apparently he knows all about being I YHs n His Holy angels presence could u imagine Plough being able to Hear the angels worship YH can you imagine how beautiful..

Could you even imagine hearing the steps of YHs Spirit when He would visit Adam in the Garden?! Or when all the Animals came to b named can you even imagine ???

How one speaks shows much... sadly many have no fear of YH..no Fear no wisdom...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.


Twistie :broken_heart:
 
All's I got for u is just wow

I see how that mindset of yours is


Woe b to the world n it's inhabitants for the day of the Lord draws near....


Twistie :pensive: :( :broken_heart:


Twistie

Have notice these things?

And many are so "worldly minded? They are so fix on "the Mundane" When HE has Given us A Direct Command!
And it seems they are demanding others to follow them, unto "The Mundane" which goes into Total rebellion against "OUR LORD" in which we are "SLAVES"


Colossians 3:4
1Therefore, since you have been raised with Christ, strive for the things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. 2Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.3For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.…
 

Twistie

Have notice these things?

And many are so "worldly minded? They are so fix on "the Mundane" When HE has Given us A Direct Command!
And it seems they are demanding others to follow them, unto "The Mundane" which goes into Total rebellion against "OUR LORD" in which we are "SLAVES"


Colossians 3:4
1Therefore, since you have been raised with Christ, strive for the things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. 2Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.3For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.…
Ya I do but it still takes me back
.
My spirit just shakes when I feel it...

Not a good thing I know that


Twistie :broken_heart:
 
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