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The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !

IF keep_commandments THEN
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ELSE
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Not abiding in God’s love does not mean God stops loving you. You are the one who decided not to love God. It is impossible for God to stop loving anyone even all of his enemies he loves. As he tells his followers to love their enemies.
 
Now, with this in mind, If God Loved all men without exception in Christ Jesus, then all men without exception could claim to be recipients of this declaration from the mouth of Christ Jn 17:23-24
Exactly. And when they do claim such, they inherit salvation.

(It's not that hard @Brightfame52)

Rhema
 
Romans 9:13

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

How can it be sincerely taught that scripture teaches that God loves all men without exception, when it specifically says of Esau, God Hated ?

And I got news for you, He did not only hate Esau, but all the workers of iniquity. Ps 5:5


5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

And they that work iniquity shall soon hear these words Matt 7:23


23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Yes, these and those in Ps 5:5 are the very same !
The usage of the word "hated" miséō, mis-eh'-o means 'to love less. But I'm sure you know that
 
Can a person not love God, but God still loves them?

What does this have to do with the price of eggs in China? Even you love someone or you don't.
It doesn't matter if they love you.
 
Please provide your academic support for your agreement.

OK, so then which is it?

He always hated Esau?
He hated loved Esau for a while and then hated him?
He still loves Esau, but loves him less?

You tell me what other option there is.
 
John 3:16

Those whom God So Loved in Jn 3:16, could not have been every individual in the world without exception, because if So, then that would mean that He Loved them with an everlasting Love Jer 31:3, it would mean that in Love He predestinated them unto the Adoption of Children by Jesus Christ to Himself Eph 1:4-5

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

In Love here can very easily be joined with the first phrase in vs 5, Love here refers to that Love with which God loves His Chosen Ones [ Deut 7:6-7] God's Love is grounded in His Choice of A People as we can see from Deut 7:6-7, and so if God Loved everyone without exception in Jn 3:16, that is like saying God has Chosen everyone in the World without exception, which we know is not True. In this Love, its such a Love that God's Chosen Ones will experimentally become Holy and without blame before Him, and that cannot be True of those Jesus will yet say Matt 25:41


41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Remember, the Chosen were Blessed Eph 1:3-4

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 2
 
What does this have to do with the price of eggs in China? Even you love someone or you don't.
It doesn't matter if they love you.
God does not either love someone or he doesn't that is a worldly point of view of the love of God.

God loves people no matter what they do and if that is not the case then his love is no better than the worst sinner, and wicked person on planet Earth.


Luke 6:32 "Suppose you love those who love you. Should anyone praise you for that? Even 'sinners' love those who love them.
Luke 6:33 And suppose you do good to those who are good to you. Should anyone praise you for that? Even 'sinners' do that. (NiRV)

Luke 6:27 "But here is what I tell you who hear me. Love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you.
 
??? Either you love them or you don't.
Not abiding in God’s love does not mean God stops loving you.
???
And while I still love my children, I have one who does not love me.

Many people do not abide in God's love, but God still loves them.

Truly, I don't know what contradiction you see in @Curtis' post. Perhaps you could elaborate at length.

Kindly,
Rhema
 
You tell me what other option there is.
I have often wondered just where J. Strong got this impression of "love less" as an "extension" (an odd view that even Mounce adopted).

The actual Greek word used, as was noted, is μισέω (G3404) which just means "to hate," plain and simple.

I provide for you a LINK to the Liddell Scott Lexicon for G3403, where one can see that there is just no application of this verb to mean "love less." I rather think that Mr. Strong was trying to "cover" for Christ.
A. hate, e.g. Zeus hated (would not suffer) that...​
(The Cambridge Greek Lexicon adds, "detest, loath, resent," as well as "be appalled by")

I also provide for you a LINK to the Liddell Scott Lexicon for Strong's primary word μῖσος (misos).
A. hate, hatred:​
(The Cambridge Greek Lexicon adds "loathing" and "detestation.")

Again there is no indication whatsoever for even this word to imply "love less."

If there is any context, it would be to "not suffer" or "not permit" or "not let" (to the point of loathing) father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life, to override one's devotion to and implementation of the teachings of Jesus. I have found quite often that there are people who "suffer" Christianity to override or supplant the teachings of Jesus. And since I find this detestable (G3403) it is difficult at times to filter this out of my voice.

Strong did his best with the information he had available back then, but his definitions ought not to be taken as gospel.

Kindly,
Rhema
 
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