The Two Witnesses, pros and cons

[Bill]

There are no more prophets sent from God today. That's another false tradition of men pushed in some churches today, especially the ones that speak a gibberish tongue with trying to say it is the true cloven tongue of Pentecost when it ain't.

Everything is already written in The Word of God that is to happen in our future, and even for the time after Christ's future return. And that Word of God is what The Holy Spirit will always align with. So if someone comes claiming to be a prophet, saying things like God told me, or Jesus told me, it should not be anything new that cannot be found in The Word of God.

And for those who do not yet know, the New Testament word 'prophesy' most often means 'to preach' The Word of God by unction of The Holy Spirit.

2 Peter 1:19-21
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
KJV

"There are no more prophets sent from God today. That's another false tradition of men pushed in some churches today, especially the ones that speak a gibberish tongue with trying to say it is the true cloven tongue of Pentecost when it ain't."

My friend, I was not trying to argue or be upset with you with what I was saying about putting the quotation marks in. But on the first line of this paragraph
" there are no more prophets sent by God today"
Is all I was talking about.

I'm sorry if I caused you to misunderstand me

 

[Bill]

Please if both of you would listen for a minute. I'm sorry that I caused the misunderstanding in the first place. I should have been a little bit more accurate with what I was talking about. So don't be jumping down each other's throat when I'm the one that started it

I think that both of you have a very good understanding of both the scripture and the mind of God. Let's not fight amongst ourselves when there's plenty of fighting to do against the darkness

 

[NoHype]

"There are no more prophets sent from God today. That's another false tradition of men pushed in some churches today, especially the ones that speak a gibberish tongue with trying to say it is the true cloven tongue of Pentecost when it ain't."

My friend, I was not trying to argue or be upset with you with what I was saying about putting the quotation marks in. But on the first line of this paragraph
" there are no more prophets sent by God today"
Is all I was talking about.

I'm sorry if I caused you to misunderstand me

You started it friend, I didn't it. And when someone tries to start falsehood against me, like the baloney that I should put quotation marks around someone's words when I quote them, WHEN I WAS NOT QUOTING ANYONE, that kind balderdash gets me riled!

So if you are offering me an apology, then I accept. But that still does not mean I won't expose a falsehood you may be guilty of.

 

[NoHype]

You point the finger at others and yet you do the some things.
You hypocrite! Sinners!
Go sin in the world some more.
God gonna get you, big boy, high minded and full of pride.

I pray mercy upon you.
But he's definitely coming, he's gonna knock you down a notch or three.

God first always.

May God rebuke you, in the name of Jesus Christ.

And when He is done with you, contact me when you are ready to actually 'discuss' the Scriptures I provided you.

 

[Bill]

You started it friend, I didn't it. And when someone tries to start falsehood against me, like the baloney that I should put quotation marks around someone's words when I quote them, WHEN I WAS NOT QUOTING ANYONE, that kind balderdash gets me riled!

So if you are offering me an apology, then I accept. But that still does not mean I won't expose a falsehood you may be guilty of.

I wasn't starting anything, i was agreeing with you

 

[watertolive]

I surely agree with that. So when will you begin to believe that for yourself, because I've already offered Scripture to discuss, but you appear to be ignorant of that Scripture. So when are you going to follow The Word of God so we here might believe it?

I have brother but your ears are deaf from hearing.
Pointing your finger at another, spewing hate, trying to use the Word, His cross, as your cloak to sin, sickens me.
Your heart fails you.
Look at how they treated Jesus at the doctrine He brought forth.
New doctrine, making himself an equal to God, who does He think He is forgiving sins, God only can forgive sins, blasphemy! Crucify Him!!!

Your are a Pharasee standing in the crowd, brother.

A servant is not above their Master, but shall become as their master.
Who is your master, doing such to God's children?
Jesus said, you father, the devil.
And they hated Him even more.
Does that compute?

I praise God for all my beatings and thrashings.
Happily blessed He counts me worthy to suffer shame for His name sake.

God first always.

 

[watertolive]

I wasn't starting anything, i was agreeing with you

He can't hear nothing but himself, brother.

 

[watertolive]

May God rebuke you, in the name of Jesus Christ.

And when He is done with you, contact me when you are ready to actually 'discuss' the Scriptures I provided you.

God rebukes you in your high minded, self righteous, condescending, hateful, attitude.

I forgive you, I pray God will too.
Oh yeah, you have to humble yourself and ask Him too.
That part is on you.

God first always

 

[NoHype]

I wasn't starting anything, i was agreeing with you

Now since you are backtracking your apology, let's go over what you said to me...

You said:
"Hey Brother, do me a favor and set quotation marks on something that you're quoting from someone else. Because if you read your first paragraph it almost sounds like you're agreeing that there are no more prophets. Although I know that's not what you meant."

You falsely insisted that I put quotations on something quoted by someone else, when I DID NOT QUOTE ANYONE.

And with my first paragraph your mind couldn't understand that I DID say there are no more prophets, so you just took liberty to assume that I was wrong in saying that.

That is definitely not an example of agreeing with me.

 

[NoHype]

God rebukes you in your high minded, self righteous, condescending, hateful, attitude.

I forgive you, I pray God will too.
Oh yeah, you have to humble yourself and ask Him too.
That part is on you.

God first always

No thanks, I don't need your forgiveness.

It is you... that needs to repent of your misrepresenting The Word of God.

 

[Dave M]

What are you going to do when the prophecy I gave about President Trump takes place?

Dear brother get over yourself and line up with the word of God already, Repent !! Who cares if trump is elected or not, many false prophets were exposed last election telling the people what they wanted to hear, but not what God had told them. Why in the world do you want everyone to think your a prophet I do not care one way or another, I want you to glorify Christ to spread the gospel, and exalt God. God will put in office who he wants to, it matters not to me as this is a fallen world my hope and faith is in God my Lord and savior Jesus Christ, not any prophet not any president. Dear brother with the love of Jesus I say this, what happens between you and God is between you two, it is not my business.

Do you remember it?

I remember that you got fairly upset with me because President Trump didn't win the re-election at that time. And if you remember what I stated to you " you mean he didn't get re-elected yet "

But the re-election wasn't all of the prophecy.

Do you remember it? If you do please post it here for all to see

This is what you said to me in a PM BILL Said
I didnt mean to seem defensive . But ive felt in my heart Pres Trump will win re-election . And the Lord has told me to put my faith in Him .
Im not perfect either . Lol thank God . I am glad to stuggle , although its a pain too . Lol

This is what I said
spoken like a humble servant of the the Lords !!
nothing but love love you Bill have a good day and thanks for the reply in God we trust,
One thing is certain,,,,, lawlessness will abound in end times and we are seeing that play out before our eyes

 

[Bill]

Dear brother get over yourself and line up with the word of God already, Repent !! Who cares if trump is elected or not, many false prophets were exposed last election telling the people what they wanted to hear, but not what God had told them. Why in the world do you want everyone to think your a prophet I do not care one way or another, I want you to glorify Christ to spread the gospel, and exalt God. God will put in office who he wants to, it matters not to me as this is a fallen world my hope and faith is in God my Lord and savior Jesus Christ, not any prophet not any president. Dear brother with the love of Jesus I say this, what happens between you and God is between you two, it is not my business.






This is what you said to me in a PM BILL Said
I didnt mean to seem defensive . But ive felt in my heart Pres Trump will win re-election . And the Lord has told me to put my faith in Him .
Im not perfect either . Lol thank God . I am glad to stuggle , although its a pain too . Lol

This is what I said
spoken like a humble servant of the the Lords !!
nothing but love love you Bill have a good day and thanks for the reply in God we trust,
One thing is certain,,,,, lawlessness will abound in end times and we are seeing that play out before our eyes

Then you forgot what else I also said. That after Trump is re-elected he will be killed in office. I felt it would happen sometime during the Spring.

Donald Trump is the man that God told me it would become the president, and that he had rejected Ted Cruz.

The Lord told me to go to Donald Trump, and tell him, do not fear as God is with you. This was during the election itself when it looked like Hillary Clinton was going to win. And suddenly it went the other way

Another time the Lord sent me to Donald Trump who was now elected president, to tell him that he was like a rock and that the enemies of God and the enemies of the country would Splash up against him like water.

Another time the Lord sent me to talk to president Donald Trump, I was asked to ask him this question would you give your life for your country. And President Trump said yes.

Then the Lord told me that during his second term he would be killed. And I felt that he would die sometime in the spring but I don't know what year

 

[NoHype]

Then you forgot what else I also said. That after Trump is re-elected he will be killed in office. I felt it would happen sometime during the Spring.

Donald Trump is the man that God told me it would become the president, and that he had rejected Ted Cruz.

The Lord told me to go to Donald trump, and tell him, do not fear as God is with you.

Another time the Lord sent me to Donald Trump who was now elected president, to tell him that he was like a rock and that the enemies of God and the enemies of the country would Splash up against him like water.

Another time the Lord sent me to talk to president Donald Trump, I was asked to ask him this question would you give your life for your country. And President Trump said yes.

Then the Lord told me that during his second term he would be killed. And I felt that he would die sometime in the spring but I don't know what year

The Satanists that are in power will never allow someone like Trump back in office as President. That last election fraud should have been an 'eye-opener' to that fact. These people that are in control are of the secret societies like high level occultists and Freemasons who hate... Christ Jesus. This war between those worshipers of Lucifer and Christ's Church has been brewing for a long, long time, and Lord Jesus warned about the coming "great tribulation", that if He had not shortened it, there would be no flesh left (Matt.24). So it's time for my fellow-Christian brethren to wake up and come to reality.

 

[Bill]

Dear brother get over yourself and line up with the word of God already, Repent !! Who cares if trump is elected or not, many false prophets were exposed last election telling the people what they wanted to hear, but not what God had told them. Why in the world do you want everyone to think your a prophet I do not care one way or another, I want you to glorify Christ to spread the gospel, and exalt God. God will put in office who he wants to, it matters not to me as this is a fallen world my hope and faith is in God my Lord and savior Jesus Christ, not any prophet not any president. Dear brother with the love of Jesus I say this, what happens between you and God is between you two, it is not my business.






This is what you said to me in a PM BILL Said
I didnt mean to seem defensive . But ive felt in my heart Pres Trump will win re-election . And the Lord has told me to put my faith in Him .
Im not perfect either . Lol thank God . I am glad to stuggle , although its a pain too . Lol

This is what I said
spoken like a humble servant of the the Lords !!
nothing but love love you Bill have a good day and thanks for the reply in God we trust,
One thing is certain,,,,, lawlessness will abound in end times and we are seeing that play out before our eyes

It's not up to me what God wants. I would have never told anyone here that I was a prophet. It's the Lord who told me to tell people here, and not to be afraid to say so.

It is written in the scripture, that a man may not be praised by men, but he will be praised by God.

 

[Bill]

The Satanists that are in power will never allow someone like Trump back in office as President. That last election fraud should have been an 'eye-opener' to that fact. These people that are in control are of the secret societies like high level occultists and Freemasons who hate... Christ Jesus. This war between those worshipers of Lucifer and Christ's Church has been brewing for a long, long time, and Lord Jesus warned about the coming "great tribulation", that if He had not shortened it, there would be no flesh left (Matt.24). So it's time for my fellow-Christian brethren to wake up and come to reality.

Are you saying that God cannot do what he wants?

Satan does not have 100% power, so why do you think that he does?

 

[NoHype]

Are you saying that God cannot do what he wants?

Satan does not have 100% power, so why do you think that he does?

God has given Satan power over this present world, and you should have realized that per his tempting Lord Jesus with offering Jesus the kingdoms of this world, per Luke 4. So why are you questioning what God Himself has done with giving Satan power of this present world which God has determined that will be destroyed? I hope your Faith is not in this present world, for that would be misplaced. This is why Christ's Church during this present world is of The Spirit, and not made of material things.

Luke 4:5-8
5 And the devil, taking Him up into an high mountain, shewed unto Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto Him, "All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be Thine."
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, "Get thee behind Me, Satan: for it is written, 'Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.'"
KJV

John 14:30
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.
KJV

 

[Bill]

God has given Satan power over this present world, and you should have realized that per his tempting Lord Jesus with offering Jesus the kingdoms of this world, per Luke 4. So why are you questioning what God Himself has done with giving Satan power of this present world which God has determined that will be destroyed? I hope your Faith is not in this present world, for that would be misplaced. This is why Christ's Church during this present world is of The Spirit, and not made of material things.

Luke 4:5-8
5 And the devil, taking Him up into an high mountain, shewed unto Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto Him, "All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be Thine."
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, "Get thee behind Me, Satan: for it is written, 'Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.'"
KJV

John 14:30
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.
KJV

Apples and Oranges

It's one thing to say, that Satan is in the world. It's a completely other thing to say, when you say that Satan has power over everything, including Jesus.

Some would think that Satan is powerful. But he's only as powerful as the Lord allows him to be. So if the Lord is allowing him to be so much, how is it possible for him to be more powerful than the Lord?

If Satan was more powerful than the Lord, how is it possible for Jesus to remove demons from people?

And how is it possible for people who serve Jesus, for them to cast demons out of people?

 

[NoHype]

Apples and Oranges

It's one thing to say, that Satan is in the world. It's a completely other thing to say, when you say that Satan has power over everything, including Jesus.

You are messin' up again, trying to put words into my mouth that I never said.

Where did I say that Satan has power over Lord Jesus???

I really think you need reading glasses or something brother.

 

[NoHype]

Brethren, I really don't know how any Christian could be so deceived as to think that this 'present' world belongs to Jesus, like He is now reigning over THIS CORRUPT AND EVIL WORLD, as if it is His Kingdom to come. The Scriptures does NOT teach any such idea about this PRESENT WORLD of evil.

Lord Jesus Christ at any moment COULD take LITERAL control over all nations and peoples of THIS PRESENT WORLD if... He so desired! But that would not fulfill what He and The Father have ordained to OCCUR for the end of this world, now would it?

So how can anyone in Christ not understand what kind of time we are living in today, that this PRESENT WORLD DEFINITELY IS NOT CHRIST'S KINGDOM?

John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is My kingdom not from hence."
KJV

 

[Bill]

Brethren, I really don't know how any Christian could be so deceived as to think that this 'present' world belongs to Jesus, like He is now reigning over THIS CORRUPT AND EVIL WORLD, as if it is His Kingdom to come. The Scriptures does NOT teach any such idea about this PRESENT WORLD of evil.

Lord Jesus Christ at any moment COULD take LITERAL control over all nations and peoples of THIS PRESENT WORLD if... He so desired! But that would not fulfill what He and The Father have ordained to OCCUR for the end of this world, now would it?

So how can anyone in Christ not understand what kind of time we are living in today, that this PRESENT WORLD DEFINITELY IS NOT CHRIST'S KINGDOM?

John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is My kingdom not from hence."
KJV

I am well aware of what is going on in the world. And aware of where everything is at when it comes to the end times. However to say that God is not in control would mean that Satan is greater than God.

God is always in control. He allows Satan to do what he wants at this time up to a point. But Satan does not have 100% control of what's going on.

You could say that Satan is Allowed by God to do the things he does, but he will never be 100% in control even when the Antichrist is here.