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There is no trinity in John 1:1


The word “ godhead “ does not exist in the Greek manuscripts.

Godhead is an invented word that was inserted into the translation - there is no such a word as “
godhead “ anywhere in the manuscripts

The pagans worshiped - brimstone / θεῖον / Theion - as their pagan gods -

“ BRIMSTONE / SULFER - WAS LITERALLY THE MATERIAL MAKING UP AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR PAGAN GOD “


Let’s just look at exactly how Trinitarians have invented and inserted the word " GODHEAD "

The first time the Trinitarian Translators insert the word :” Godhead :” is when they delete the word
BRIMSTONE and change this word into “ Godhead “ there are hundreds of words in the Bible using the DEITY - Theo / Theos / Theia related forms of the word - God, Divine and Divinity -

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM ARE THE GREEK WORD
Theion - θεῖον / Theion except ONE SINGLE TIME when the translators changed and altered the word in - Acts 17:29

Never, ever is THEION relating to God or Divinity in the entire Bible - never - just in Acts 17:29, all of these forms of the word God are / Theo / Theos / Theia - they are words with the same forms or similar -


and if you are a Greek - literally worshiping and serving the idol constructed and made out of
THEION / Brimstone / θεῖον as your literal God and altar construction - as a Greek pagan - the word THEION / Brimstone - will also be included as the form of the word “ Divinity and Godlike
The Pagans were literally worshiping the
BRIMSTONE IDOLS AND BRIMSTONE ALTARS - the = THEION.

But never out of all of the hundreds of words in the Bible using the
Theo / Theia related forms of the word God, Divine and Divinity - NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM ARE THE GREEK WORD THEION - except ONE SINGLE TIME when the translators changed and altered the word in Acts 17:29, never is THEION relating to God or Divinity in the entire Bible - never -

just one single time in
Acts 17:29.

But - because that the Greek society had historically used this word relating to their pagan gods - which were idols, images and statues, they were melting pitch, resin, and brimstone - sulphur and forming this brimstone into a figure / idol / god. . . The brimstone - sulphur itself was literally - divine - the ingredient or construction of the very pagan god the idol which they worshiped, was made out of brimstone - sulphur itself as the literal composition used to represent the
- divine god }

We can see that the
two Greek words God - divine and sulphur or Brimstone are very closely related as the same type word.

1. θεῖον - theion - thi'-on,, meaning = “ sulphur or Brimstone “ ( the ion )

2. θεῖος - theios - thi'-os ,, meaning = “ divine “ ( the eye os )

3. θεός - theos - theh'-os,, meaning = “ God “ ( the ous )

and we see here what the Greek word
brimstone means

Luk 17:29 it rained fire and brimstone -
θεῖον - theion
Rev 9:17 out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone - θεῖον - theion
Rev 9:18 by the smoke, and by the brimstone - - θεῖον - theion
Rev 14:10 he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone - θεῖον - theion
Rev 19:20 into a lake of fire burning with brimstone - θεῖον - theion
Rev 20:10 the devil ……… was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone - θεῖον - theion
Rev 21:8 the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone -- θεῖον - theion

And we remember that God in Greek is - θεός - theos - theh'-os

And divine is used
2Pe 1:3 According as his " Divine -
θεῖος - theios “ power
2Pe 1:4 ye might be partakers of the divine " Divine -
θεῖος - theios “
2Pe 1:3 …… his " Divine -
θεῖος - theios “ - power hath given unto us all things
2Pe 1:4 ...... that ye might be partakers of the " Divine -
θεῖος - theios “ - nature ( of God

However, notice here in -
Act 17..... Paul is preaching to idol worshipers and commenting directly about their statue or image / idol - inscribed as ( to the unknown god }

let’s translate
Act 17:29 - exactly as it is in the Greek manuscripts

:29 γενος The offspring - ουν therefore - υπαρχοντες who are, - του of - Θεου God - ουκ not - οφειλομεν should - νομιζειν regard - χρυσω gold - η or - αργυρω silver - η or - λιθω stones - χαραγματι engraved - τεχνης crafts - και and - ενθυμησεως the thoughts - ανθρωπου of man

-
το the - θειον brimstone - ειναι are - ομοιον the same / similar


meaning
:29

THE OFFSPRING THEREFORE WHO ARE OF GOD NOT SHOULD REGARD GOLD OR SILVER OR STONES ENGRAVED CRAFTS AND THE THOUGHTS OF MAN,, THE BRIMSTONE ARE THE SAME / SIMILAR / ALIKE

THE BRIMSTONE - θεῖον - theion - thi'-on - ARE THE SAME / SIMILAR / ALIKE.

This is exactly what the manuscripts say in -
Act 17:29 - the translators also - rearranged and moved the words around to completely change and alter what the passage is saying

we see that - only one single time do the translators change the word θειον - THEION, brimstone - into inserting the word Godhead,

all of the other instances where this word is used, it is always translated as Brimstone - also the words had to be moved / shuffled around in order to change the context of the passage and insert the word “ godhead “ - in Acts 17:29 But I know we all can understand that the word “ divine “ applies to meaning as the supernatural power of God in
how he is Omniscience all knowing - his power of divinization

please take a look at in context, what is happening in this passage ?

Paul is speaking to a crowd of pagans and Paul is describing how that their entire city - the city wholly given to idolatry. He is being accused of also being a pagan himself, people are accusing Paul himself of being " a setter forth of strange gods " Paul believes, they are too superstitious and tells them that he has found this inscription upon their altar “””” , TO THE UNKNOWN GOD , “””” Whom therefore they ignorantly worship.

The mentioning of
Brimstone / Sulfur is made because the Pagans would make their Idols, Images, ornaments and altars with refined Brimstone and decorate their idols. This Brimstone has a shinny, reflective glimmer that is attractive. Brimstone polished stone are adored because Pagans believe they are stones of energy with a spiritual energy field. Brimstone was a very makeup and part of their GODS - THEON / BRIMSTONE WAS WHAT that the Pagans were worshiping - Because the Pagans worshiped THEON / BRIMSTONE - the Trinitarian Translators pretend that this word THEON is somehow is to be transformed into the word GODHEAD ! Just because the pagans worshiped brimstone as their pagan gods - Trinitarians feel that this gives them an excuse to change the word Brimstone into the word Godhead.


The second word that Trinitarians delete and change into the word “
Godhead “ - is found in

Col 2:9 - Theotes / Theh-ot'-ace - Meaning = OF THE DIVINITY - THE IDEA OF GOD pertaining to his nature in his divine character and existence

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulfillment of the “ OF THE DIVINITY “ bodily.

Meaning all of the knowledge of potential hidden, likely, possible and conceivable and plausible or thinkable things that God could ever be or know was fulfilled in Jesus " OF THE DIVINITY - and Jesus fully fulfilled all of these things.

The Trinitarians inserted an English word that they invented a new " type " or analogy that has the word "
HEAD " in the word - as if to assert or define Gods divinity in the meaning of a body part or a bi - fold word of also being the head or chief or leader or " HEAD SHIP " HEAD - FRONTAL POSITION - LEAD - when the subject was simply / simply only explaining the divinity as divine and above anything earthly explained as characteristics of Gods essence and Godlike eternal un - fathomable substance - and the GOD NATURE or the very existence of Gods { eternal power and knowledge }

And this word has nothing to do with the "
HEAD " of God.

This is The God -
Ness / The God - Ture - of THE DIVINE -- the word head has nothing to do with this word

The God Character and that belonging, making or existing as the nature of the aspect of the foreknowledge and divination power and nature of God's deity fulfilled in Yahoshua.


The third word is found in Rom 1:20
- theiotes / thi-ot'-ace. - Meaning = Divinity -

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Divinity ; so that they are without excuse:

Again this word has nothing to do with the word "
HEAD " or chief or a leadership position of God - or " HEAD SHIP " HEAD - FRONTAL POSITION - LEAD - The word simply means Divinity - The God - Ness / The God - Ture - The God Character and that belonging, making or existing as the nature of the aspect of the nature of God's eternal characters and deity. In Yahoshua was all the fullness of the DEITY of God. - "GOD - HEAD " - was never one of them.
This was a made up " ADDED " word that has nothing to do with a part or piece or portion or a position of God - as if extracting or exacting a focused description of
a portion or partial position of anything as the "-head" chief or top. head

theiotes / thi-ot'-ace. - Meaning = Divinity - was used three times in the manuscripts and the translators translate the word a " divinity " in two of the verses " but in one single verse they changed the word into a concept and idea that does not exist in the manuscripts " and simply MADE UP / INVENTED a NEW WORD to fit with their pre - conceived doctrine.

2Pe 1:4 the translators take the word "
divine " to be godhead
2Pe 1:4 ye might be partakers of the "
divine " nature.
2Pe 1:3 According as his
divine power.

and they change this word divine into the word " GODHEAD "
just out of the blue ! - and this word has nothing to do with the idea of a head or a tail or anything to do with a position within God himself. the idea of there being a head, ruler, chief, leader or the " head " position within a position of the God of the bible is completely contrary to the nature of God. Godhead was inserted and made up in three total verses in the Translation by changing the words in specific verses and translating them correctly in all of the other verses.

THE SADDEST REALITY IS - Every single last verse that Trinitarians use to support their Trinity has been altered, changed and added into the Translation.

They delete words, change words and even change the message of the passages to make them say something that the original never says. The word Godhead is inserted by taking three separate words that are translated correctly as an entirely different and another meaning - and another word in all of the places this word exists in the translation - they take these three words and delete the original word and change it into " Godhead "

Godhead is a " pre - conceived, summarized code word " that describes what Trinitarians feel, imagine and think should be doctrine " , and not a part of the Greek manuscript - The Greek word “
κεφαλή - Kephalē - means = HEAD

This word is used nearly 60 times - never is the word " head " used in any of the passages where the GOD - HEAD was inserted- Godhead does not exist anywhere in the scriptures - just as the word " Trinity " also is not there.
 
In Colossians 2:9 the Apostle Paul, writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declares, “For in Him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” The literal translation of the Greek word Theotetos (Godhead) is Deity, so in Christ all the fullness (pleroma) of the Deity resides in the flesh (somatikos).

In Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, which is referred to as being “comprehensive” by the Watchtower, a complete analysis of Theotetos (Godhead, Deity) is given, especially its interpretation in the context of Colossians 2:9.

Jehovah’s Witnesses will do well to remember that Thayer was a Unitarian (one who denies the deity of Christ), and therefore more prone to accept their interpretations than those of evangelical Christianity. But despite his theological views, Thayer was a Greek scholar whose integrity in the presentation of honest facts, despite their disagreement with his beliefs, is the trait exemplified in all legitimate critics and honest scholars.

Martin, Walter. The Kingdom of the Cults (p. 122). Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
 
If one reads the entire book of John- there will be no doubt that the 'Trinity' is antichrist.
 
If one reads the entire book of John- there will be no doubt that the 'Trinity' is antichrist.
It sounds like you read the wrong book of John. As I've said so many times.....Put your intellect aside and listen to the Holy Spirit...He'll teach you right.
 
John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God [or divine].

[The Desperate Raft (with a leak) that churchoids try to stay afloat in!
They try to ignore that he was "WITH" God- for that means he wasn't LITERALLY God.
Moses, too, was "God"- Ex 7:1-"I have made thee God to Pharaoh"- Darby
The "Word" here means Spokesman- one who SPOKE for God as the context clearly shows.]

2- The same was in the beginning with God.
3- All things were made through him; and

[Notice "THROUGH" him?]
 
John 1:3- All things were made through him; and

[Notice "THROUGH" him?]

without him was not anything made that hath been made.
10- He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world knew him not.
14- And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full
of grace and truth.

[Note he says they SAW him- compare with the next verse!]

18- No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
[ Many thousands saw Jesus!]

John 1:33- And I myself did not know him, but the One who sent me to baptize with water told me,
The man on whom you see the spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the holy spirit.
34- I have seen and I testify that this is God's Chosen One.

Not God.
Not 'God-the-Son'.
God's Chosen one!

(And no 'Holy Ghost'!)

35- The next day John was there again with two of his disciples.
36 -When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, "Look, the Lamb of God!"

Not, "Look! It's GOD!" , nor, "Look! It's God-the Lamb!", not 'God-the-Son'!
The Lamb >>> OF <<< God.
 
.Productions such as The Strong’s Concordance and The Thayer Greek - English Lexicon


these are works of literature that were created nearly
2000 years after the New Testament was authored

- the very Translation of the New Testament itself was not translated into a modern language - also, until nearly
2000 years after it was authored

The Concordance and Lexicon was not invented to define the exact meaning of ancient Greek or the original manuscripts.

these works are created simply - just to justify the altered and manipulated Trinitarian translation.

The Trinitarians focused ” on specific “ selected, chosen KEY doctrines and teachings and A SET OF SPECIFIC verses / passages - where they altered the meaning of the Greek words and they adjusted, altered and modified the meaning of the words to fit with how they translated the verses.



The Concordance and Lexicon is based only upon how the King James Translation redefines and re words the bible - based on the Trinitarian rendering of the verses and by the Translators adding and removing and re - arranging words to puzzle piece a reshuffled message that alters the original message.. The Concordance and Lexicon do not represent the original wording and LAYOUT of the MANUSCRIPTS but represent - HOW THE TRANSLATION IS RE - WORDED and HOW THE TRANSLATION IS ALTERED AND CHANGED


Strong Concordance is nothing more than a numbering system, assigning a number catalog to every word in The King James Translation as it has been translated - to support and verify the translation


The concordance only reflects the rendering of the Trinitarian Translation word for word exactly - and do not reflect or represent in any way whatsoever - the original manuscripts - as the words are laid out in the manuscripts themselves.

this is much different than going to the original sentence in the manuscript - reading it exactly for what the ORIGINAL message says - instead of building a Concordance and Lexicon
system solely based upon the translated sentence - and what the translation says,.

--------- after it has been translated into English - 2000 years after the book was written --
The Concordance and Lexicon is a work of art to batch up and match up the Translation to the manuscript = instead of batching up and matching up the manuscript to the translation
 
Dear @paths that cross
Clearly you are against the Trinity. So, why are you on this site, that has a Statement of Faith that is agreement with the Trinity?
If it is to let those so misguided know the truth, well, you have done what you have felt is right. Now you can leave this site, and with your permission I will close your membership.

Is that okay?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><
 
Thanks for asking!
But you don't WANT people actually accepting Christ?
Dear Meditation,
On your last question to me, I will then answer.
They must be drawn by God, and the choosing is between them.
As it was for me, and I can only assume for you as well.

As put forth before, and to others. You can now leave this site, and have your membership closed.
With your permission of course or it can be done for you without your consent. Either way, I do hope
for you fair travels, with the hope that one day we will meet in Gloryland.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><
 
How does vs 15 say that Jesus is created? It says no such thing. It says Jesus is the visible image of the invisible Father.....When you look at Jesus you are seeing the Father
You seem to have selective vision when reading Col 1:15. This is exactly what it says: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Yes it says he is the "image" of God. First, you cannot be the thing you are image of. But is also says he was the firstborn of all creation. Every place where firstborn is used in the Bible it means first of a kind and the Greek word translated to firstborn literally means first one born. Obviously Jesus had a beginning. God did not.
 
You seem to have selective vision when reading Col 1:15. This is exactly what it says: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Yes it says he is the "image" of God. First, you cannot be the thing you are image of. But is also says he was the firstborn of all creation. Every place where firstborn is used in the Bible it means first of a kind and the Greek word translated to firstborn literally means first one born. Obviously Jesus had a beginning. God did not.
You seem to misunderstand some words here. Born is not created....Jesus was fiirstborn of the Father...Created is "brought into being from nothing" Born is a "reproduction from existing life" So Jesus was born into the flesh from existing life. And too, you seem to misunderstand what you read...Jesus birth on Earth was not His beginning....Jesus is the Word of God and He took on a fleshly body but He did that for a reason...
 
Careful, Admon- I just received warning that I would be kicked off for denying "the deity of Jesus"!
 
You seem to misunderstand some words here. Born is not created....Jesus was fiirstborn of the Father...Created is "brought into being from nothing" Born is a "reproduction from existing life" So Jesus was born into the flesh from existing life. And too, you seem to misunderstand what you read...Jesus birth on Earth was not His beginning....Jesus is the Word of God and He took on a fleshly body but He did that for a reason...
I don't think it was me that misunderstood anything. Every time the phrase "firstborn" is used in the Bible it is talking about the first of a group, just like it does when it says that Jesus is the "firstborn of many brethren" in Romans 8:29. He is one of the group. When it says in Col1:15 that Jesus is the firstborn of all creation it means that he is one of the creation. So yes, this verse shows clearly that Jesus was a creation/created and if he was created he had a beginning. God had no beginning. If you really believe Jesus then just believe what he said when he said his Father is the only true God and many other place where he said he was inferior the Father.

Strong's gives this meaning to the word translated as creation:
the act of founding, establishing, building etc
the act of creating, creation
creation i.e. thing created
of individual things, beings, a creature, a creation
anything created
 
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