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Trump or No Trump That's the Question

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I read an article a few weeks ago. This man is some governmental official watched Donald Trump speaking to a crowd of people supporters. This man thinks Trump may be trying to run for the 2024 presidential election against Biden incumbents currently in office. It's not sure. But he thinks Trump sounds determined.

So I would like to ask all members who would like to answer this …..

Would you want Trump back as president again for another 4 years in office?`

Can you please tell why or why not of your opinion on this issue. I think this should be interesting as Biden as losing some support as of recently and to see where Trump stands now.

So do you want Trump back? Why or why not? I will wait for some to answer before I do. Let's have fun gang. Lets go. .
 
I read an article a few weeks ago. This man is some governmental official watched Donald Trump speaking to a crowd of people supporters. This man thinks Trump may be trying to run for the 2024 presidential election against Biden incumbents currently in office. It's not sure. But he thinks Trump sounds determined.

So I would like to ask all members who would like to answer this …..

Would you want Trump back as president again for another 4 years in office?`

Can you please tell why or why not of your opinion on this issue. I think this should be interesting as Biden as losing some support as of recently and to see where Trump stands now.

So do you want Trump back? Why or why not? I will wait for some to answer before I do. Let's have fun gang. Lets go. .

OF course I'd like him back, and will definitely vote for Him if he runs, and I'm still alive. I think he was taking the country in the right direction, and the Democrats are essentially a HATE GROUP, bound on destroying our governmental system.
If Trump doesn't run, I'll vote for whatever the Republican Party ponies up, and NEVER vote for another Democratic candidate for any office - period.
 
I would definitely vote for him again. This past election was the only election I have ever voted in and the next time I’m going republican again whether it’s him or someone else. I feel like Biden and the other Democrats are wanting too much control
 
America is lost Trump is NOT getting back in, the now have complete control of rigging the elections. I will not waist my time voting any more. Jesus is my King now and forever.

Things are going to get much worst, nothing is going back to the way it was,, count it a joy as we get closer to out Lords return !!
 
Truth be told I havn't voted since Bush Jr's 1st run. Wasn't a Christian then.
Reason is God decides who will be the leaders of the nations, so why should I even care? It is the Father who is bringing forth his will to finish what he started.
If we look at this carefully we will see a government(s) that are using these vaccines and virus situation as a way of causing submission of the people. I.E. vaccinate or you can't go to a restaurant, movie, ball game, work in a nursing home etc.... It's not just in the US. It's a prelude to what's coming shortly, kinda like a trial run. And notice that these mandates affect your ability to BUY, like a meal or ticket to game or movie, and your ability to earn a living considering what profession your in like nursing, Dr etc....and they affect your ability to SELL in that as one of the owners of
the afore mentioned businesses you cant sell unless your vaccinated and your staff etc...
Without the problems of the day, and they need to get worse, we will never see the one who proclaims to have the answers to all the problems. Antichrist
So we may not like what the nation or the world looks like today but all of it is Gods doing as he is making a quick work in finishing his will.

Romans 13 is a great reference for this subject.

Job 13:15 Though he slay me, yet still will I trust in him.................

So no worries as we who are the called are already dead to the world.
 
IMO it seems to me that it doesn't matter who is the president of the United States .
There will always be something you like or dislike of each candidate.
We just need to pray that whomever it is that at least they would have the people that put them in office
at heart.
 
Truth be told I havn't voted since Bush Jr's 1st run. Wasn't a Christian then.
Reason is God decides who will be the leaders of the nations, so why should I even care? It is the Father who is bringing forth his will to finish what he started.
AGREE God decides many Scriptures tell us that.. Looking at Scriptue we see how God uses people to do His bidding.. He used Noah, He had David kill Goliath, Samson, Samuel, Rehab, even to the birth of Christ, He used Mary and Joseph. Judas. God used both the Jewish , and Roman leaders to crucify our Lord. God could have 'snaped His fingers' presto an ark , God did not need Rehab , Rehab needed God. A few small Bible stories but the point is clear, God uses people wow I left Moses out!
To not prayerfully vote and/or be involved, to my understanding, is to not be taking the on the responsibility of being one of Gods kids.
 
America is lost Trump is NOT getting back in, the now have complete control of rigging the elections. I will not waist my time voting any more. Jesus is my King now and forever.

Things are going to get much worst, nothing is going back to the way it was,, count it a joy as we get closer to out Lords return !!
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
 
As Christians we have NO EXCUSE for not voting....Those who refuse to vote are voting for the evil ones....Think about it! No vote IS a vote....for the wrong side!
 
do you have any scripture that says that?

thanks
Nope It's called being a good responsible citizen. and an adult. On the other hand, if every Christian would be responsible enough to do his and her responsibilities, we would see ourselves ruling in this world.... Proverbs 29:2 - When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn. The problem with Christians is there are far too many wimps among us....Are you a wimp Dave M?
 
Nope It's called being a good responsible citizen. and an adult. On the other hand, if every Christian would be responsible enough to do his and her responsibilities, we would see ourselves ruling in this world.... Proverbs 29:2 - When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn. The problem with Christians is there are far too many wimps among us....Are you a wimp Dave M?
I do not like Gotquestions.com but this time I agree with them....I took this from them...cut and paste

"It is our contention that it is the duty and responsibility of every Christian to vote and to vote for leaders who promote Christian principles. God is most certainly in control, but that does not mean we should do nothing to further His will. We are commanded to pray for our leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-4). In terms of politics and leadership, there is evidence in Scripture that God has been displeased with our choices of leadership at times (Hosea 8:4). The evidence of sin’s grip on this world is everywhere. Much of the suffering on earth is because of godless leadership (Proverbs 28:12). Scripture gives Christians instructions to obey legitimate authority unless it contradicts the Lord’s commands (Acts 5:27-29; Romans 13:1-7). As born-again believers, we ought to strive to choose leaders who will be themselves led by our Creator (1 Samuel 12:13-25). Candidates or proposals that violate the Bible’s commands for life, family, marriage, or faith should never be supported (Proverbs 14:34). Christians should vote as led through prayer and study of both God’s Word and the realities of the choices on the ballot.

Christians in many countries in this world are oppressed and persecuted. They suffer under governments that they are powerless to change and governments that hate their faith and silence their voices. These believers preach the gospel of Jesus Christ at the risk of their own lives. In the U.S.A., Christians have been blessed with the right to speak about and choose their leaders without fearing for themselves or their families. In the U.S.A., in recent elections, about 2 of every 5 of self-professed Christians took that right for granted and did not vote. About 1 in 5 self-professed, eligible Christians are not even registered to vote.

In our day and age, there are many who want to drive the name and message of Christ completely out of the public arena. Voting is an opportunity to promote, protect, and preserve godly government. Passing up that opportunity means letting those who would denigrate the name of Christ have their way in our lives. The leaders we elect—or do nothing to remove—have great influence on our freedoms. They can choose to protect our first amendment right to religious freedom and the right to spread the gospel, or they can restrict those rights. They can lead our nation toward righteousness or toward moral disaster. As Christians, we should stand up and follow our command to fulfill our civic duties (Matthew 22:21). "
 
Can't get to my desk top just now, to post Scripture. Here are a couple hints..... Paul, the apostle was, yet he called on his Roman citizenship. We are told to occupy, occupy does not mean do nothing. God used the Egyptian government... God had Moses set up a form of government. We have Roman's 13. We are not to be so spirituality minded we are of no earthly good. God did not make us like, the angels, we according to Christ's parables are to be productive.
 
America is lost Trump is NOT getting back in, the now have complete control of rigging the elections. I will not waist my time voting any more. Jesus is my King now and forever.

Things are going to get much worst, nothing is going back to the way it was,, count it a joy as we get closer to out Lords return !!
No argument!! Things Will definitely get worse.
 
No argument!! Things Will definitely get worse.
We know that a one world government will happen...We know that all sorts of bad things will happen in the world....but Jesus said to occupy until He comes....That means we carry on running things until He comes.... Occupy=

  1. to be occupied in anything
  2. to carry on a business
  3. to carry on the business of a banker or a trader
to busy oneself with, i.e. to trade:—occupy.

All this fancy religious talk and doing nothing only contributes to the evil.
 
Are you a wimp Dave M?

I am not sure how do you define it ?? I proclaim Jesus Christ and the Gospel on the streets in CHarlotte NC does that make me a wimp?? I tell everyone I know about Jesus Christ and what he has done for me, does that make me a wimp???

I have the Gift of discernment and know for a fact my vote no longer counts for anything, so I am not going to waiste my time
the bible tells us not to get caught up in worldly affairs..

I agree if the voting was legit it would be our duty to vote, it is no longer legit.

this scripture comes to mind

2 Timothy 2:4
No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him.


why would someone waist there time voting for a rigged system??
 
I am not sure how do you define it ?? I proclaim Jesus Christ and the Gospel on the streets in CHarlotte NC does that make me a wimp?? I tell everyone I know about Jesus Christ and what he has done for me, does that make me a wimp???

I have the Gift of discernment and know for a fact my vote no longer counts for anything, so I am not going to waiste my time
the bible tells us not to get caught up in worldly affairs..

I agree if the voting was legit it would be our duty to vote, it is no longer legit.

this scripture comes to mind

2 Timothy 2:4
No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him.


why would someone waist there time voting for a rigged system??
Dave, don't ask me to say if you're a wimp or not....I was asking You. I've always wondered why we choose to do what we want to do rather than following instructions.....
 
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I understand Brother Bear point. He makes a good one!! HOWEVER!!! LOL James 4:4 is the reason many do not wish to partake of the world's vote. Next,and maybe I will need some correction from others on what I am about to say. Getting our own people out of harms way is a must,but, getting those who helped us out,wait a minute!!! Did they not get paid well for what they did??? What really do we own them?

When a business closes and people are out of work, what help does the company give them?? The harsh reality to me is we own them nothing. The President could not have been more wrong on what he has done! I as a Vietnam Veteran could not be more heart broken for what he did to the moral of our troops! 20 plus years for what??? Now the terrorist, and that is excatly what they are, are now in full control of the Country. Unless the good Lord creates an escape,there will be great loss of life for both sides! ( 1 Cor 10:13) I shall continue to pray that he revels an escape to our people over in that hell hole!
 
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