Trump or No Trump That's the Question

[Reba1]

Greetings @Admon Mikha'el and @Reba1

do you really think that is what the parable in Luke 19 is about?


Bless you ....><>

To me the parables cover more than just one thing or topic. It covers what God has given us .First He has given us His Son, Grace, Salvation, The Gifts all those wonderful things. . He gave us our kids, our homes, the food on the table, Etc. Parables are like that.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Hello there,

The question is not 'Trump or no Trump', for who is Trump and who is Biden? Are they not mere men?

Pray instead that God's will be done within your nation: for His name and glory's sake.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

What do those mere men stand for? Vote for the one who stands for right. And yes...Pray for your nation

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Greetings @Admon Mikha'el and @Reba1

do you really think that is what the parable in Luke 19 is about?


Bless you ....><>

What indeed? We are given responsibilities. How do we answer Him if we throw those responsibilities under the bed and hide? Kind of sounds like the third man. Will we give them back to Him with accusations?

 

[Rhema]

if every Christian would be responsible enough to do his and her responsibilities, we would see ourselves ruling in this world.... Proverbs 29:2 - When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.

Well said.

Christians have forgotten this verse -

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power(authority) is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​

(Matthew 28:18 KJV)​

There is a reason he said that. His power and authority has been vested in Regents (to DO something) -

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.​

(Matthew 28:19-20 KJV)​

GO is a command, written in the imperative mood. And we are to teach all nations to Observe the commands of Jesus.

Withdrawing from the world is to disobey Christ.

As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.​

(John 9:5 KJV)​

So who are those in the world now? And what if they withdraw from the world?

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.​

(Matthew 5:14 KJV)​

I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.​

(John 17:15-18 KJV)​

If we have been sent, where have we gone?

Rhema

 

[K9Buckeye]

Would you want Trump back as president again for another 4 years in office?`

I believe Trump should step aside and endorse Ron Desantis. Trump will be 78 in 2024. DeSantis will be 45.

 

[K9Buckeye]

We know that a one world government will happen

Verse please?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Verse please?

Revelation 13:3-4, referring to him as "the beast," says, "the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, 'Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?'" The Antichrist will clearly have global influence and power.

Revelation 13:7-8 adds, "And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain."

All unbelievers will give allegiance to this Antichrist during the tribulation period. In fact, a mark of the beast will be required on everyone in order to buy or sell items during this time: "No one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name" (Revelation 13:17). Some will refuse this mark and will suffer as a result. The government will be globally controlled, though there may or may not be an official one-world government.

 

[Rhema]

Revelation 13:7-8 adds, "And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain."

Sounds like a contradiction:

And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto ME in heaven and on earth.​

(Matthew 28:18 ASV)​

Rhema

(Also: Sounds like a religion, not a government.)

 

[Gregoryp]

I am horrified to see that people are still immersing themselves in the world, when it states clearly there wil be one world government and one world religion. No m atter who you vote for, donate to, spruik for will make one iota of difference. Remove yourselves from your worldy desires and start worshipping Jesus, not Satan and his world. And be very careful of wolves dressed as sheep, they are here to decieve and devour you, also to cause division, ignore them.

 

[Rhema]

And be very careful of sheep dressed as wolves, they are here to decieve and devour you, also to cause division, ignore them.

I think you mean wolves dressed as sheep, but I often find that the wolves give their religious and "wise" opinions without supporting them from scripture at all.

One really needs to be careful of those people.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will-worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.​

(Colossians 2:16-23 KJV)​

Rhema

 

[Goodtogo]

That’s an interesting though about backing up what you say with verses , I was thinking about this recently.
There is a flip side as well some people think that if they can give you a long list of verses that makes them more superior .
Often a long list on a subject can get really confusing to the reader , God is not of confusion either .
I look at Jesus when he was tempted by the devil three times . Jesus quoted 1 verse each time .
So on reflection knowing a verse properly and using it wisely should be enough and no confusion either .

I ignore people that give out long lists of verses , I’m not interested in making a book out of it . And how do I know they interpret it correctly ? Could be a royal waste of time . Be precise and speak less words is wise .
A wise man is of few words would be my quote . Perhaps I said too much already

 

[Gregoryp]

That’s an interesting though about backing up what you say with verses , I was thinking about this recently.
There is a flip side as well some people think that if they can give you a long list of verses that makes them more superior .
Often a long list on a subject can get really confusing to the reader , God is not of confusion either .
I look at Jesus when he was tempted by the devil three times . Jesus quoted 1 verse each time .
So on reflection knowing a verse properly and using it wisely should be enough and no confusion either .

I ignore people that give out long lists of verses , I’m not interested in making a book out of it . And how do I know they interpret it correctly ? Could be a royal waste of time . Be precise and speak less words is wise .
A wise man is of few words would be my quote . Perhaps I said too much already

scripture can be taken out of context, misinterpreted and just causes confusion for some people. Once your embedded in the truth you just know what is right, and organised religion in these times is not right. The enemy wants every christian to embed themselves in organised religion as he has authority over those organisations. Jesus says to remove yourselves from the ***** of babylon, well do it.

 

[Hekuran]

scripture can be taken out of context, misinterpreted and just causes confusion for some people. Once your embedded in the truth you just know what is right, and organised religion in these times is not right. The enemy wants every christian to embed themselves in organised religion as he has authority over those organisations. Jesus says to remove yourselves from the ***** of babylon, well do it.

@Gregoryp you persistently diminish and deprecate the church, the bride of Christ. Can you not see how dangerously unwise this is?

 

[Gregoryp]

The church are the people, not the building or organisation.

 

[Rhema]

The church are the people, not the building or organisation.

Who's doing the organizing in "organized religion" if not the people?

Rhema

(When you rejected a church, was it because of doctrine or because you just didn't like the people?)
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[Dave M]

@Gregoryp you persistently diminish and deprecate the church, the bride of Christ. Can you not see how dangerously unwise this is?

I agree with this, yes there is plenty of fake organised christian churches, but to lump them all together is very misleading and just a wrong statement.

 

[Dave M]

The church are the people, not the building or organisation.

really the apostles were a organisation, that met in buildings. Your disdain for religion organisations may have some merit, but it is far too general, there are plenty of organised churches out there doing Gods work.
We are far stronger in numbers which is why Gods word tells us not to stop from assembling together

 

[Br. Bear]

@Goodtogo

Greetings,

That’s an interesting though about backing up what you say with verses , I was thinking about this recently.
There is a flip side as well some people think that if they can give you a long list of verses that makes them more superior .
Often a long list on a subject can get really confusing to the reader , God is not of confusion either .
I look at Jesus when he was tempted by the devil three times . Jesus quoted 1 verse each time .
So on reflection knowing a verse properly and using it wisely should be enough and no confusion either .

I ignore people that give out long lists of verses , I’m not interested in making a book out of it . And how do I know they interpret it correctly ? Could be a royal waste of time . Be precise and speak less words is wise .
A wise man is of few words would be my quote . Perhaps I said too much already

you forgot the Scripture verse!


Bless you ....><>

 

[Rhema]

really the apostles were a organisation, that met in buildings.

The first one being the temple.

And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.​

(Acts 2:46-47 KJV)​

Rhema

 

[Goodtogo]

@Goodtogo
Greetings,

you forgot the Scripture verse!


Bless you ....><>

No I did not forget the scripture verse the 3 temptations are scriptural found in the gospels . Chapter verse yes I don’t recall off the top of my head , but I trust people have read the Bible .