Admon Mikha'el
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Ah? So we sit on our hands and watch our country get destroyed....Religion..Dave, nobody is suggesting you start a civil war....I'm saying that you pray for your nation.....
U.S. Election: Stolen or Not?
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Where? When? How? Who? Why? I'm asking someone to show me the evidence, not just tell me there's lots of it.
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The following is an Audit pdf that was conducted on a small country on Dominion Voting Machines in Michigan. I guess some of the background is that this county was very, very pro-Trump, with houses with signs etc. but at the end of the day the votes, seemed to be almost all Biden.
Microsoft Word - Antrim Michigan Forensics Report 121320(9).docx (depernolaw.com)
The case on this is still in the courts. Additional documents were requested from FB, Twitter, Instigram that were ordered by the Judge to be provided by I believe is 2 February. For what reason I don't know. So, this case continues. Just know that this covers only a small country in Michigan, but that there were states other than Michigan that used the Dominion Voting Machines/Systems.
You also have a case down in Texas where a woman was arrested for voter fraud. She was caught on camera even admitting to it. Now the group that does these types of videos is called Project Veritas, whom many consider a "Far Right Wing" group. Yet, to me this is what Investigative Reporting was when I grew up and was part of all major networks news departments. I believe this is how 60 Minutes came about. Still, I guess it all depends on who is doing the reporting on how its viewed (shrug). Oh, they did some excellent work on Abortion Clinics, and the atrocities done there, and of course were promptly sued by Planned Parenthood (of course), but that's another story.
My question is to things like this, is why did it take a Private Organization doing a video, to come up with this? Where are the authorities? Why aren't they doing the investigating? The main stream media which is almost entirely liberal won't be doing it, so what can we do, what can be done?
Texas woman arrested on election fraud charges after getting caught on Project Veritas video, officials say - TheBlaze
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I believe Judgement is getting ready to come to our nation, and prayers of the un-repented do not get answered and as a nation we have far to many who have not repented, I pray for our nation twice a day, but I know what GOd word says and I see it playing out right now.
This country is not my home I am visitor I am doing my best to stay out of worldly affairs, as they do nothing for me in my growth in Christ,
Did Jesus try to stop Rome evil empire from ruling over his people??
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I posted 3 video and NIck just posted 1
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You sound paranoid. I am not, nor have ever been RCC. Want to call me something else that you have no idea whether its true or not, or instead just tell me why you dont agree, according to scripture?
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Yes. I can't go through all the videos. Can you state directly what has led you to believe the election result is wrong? What evidence do you base that on?
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I wasn't asking about individuals or about specific counties. What is the evidence that the overall result is wrong?
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Dear Brother,
Did you read or understand what I've written to you in these postings? To answer my own question to you. Apparently not!
How can you know the actual affect in total, if one does not investigate in total or at least do more then has been done so far?
That is exactly the point that I and others have been trying to communicate to you. What's been provided here to you is evidence that fraud has been happening, the extent to which we don't know! Was it sufficient to overturn the election or not? We can't say until there is a full investigation into the fraud that we know was happening.
What follows the below Scripture are two questions that might bring you greater understanding.
And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul's message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth. Acts 17:11 NLT
Did the Bereans take Paul and Silas at their word for what was being preached?
What did the Bereans do, after being taught by Paul and Silas?
Do you now understand what we have been trying to show you brother and what we are looking to be done?
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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@Christ4Ever I dont think I've misunderstood you. Your position is that there have been allegations of fraud in some places and that there should be a thorough investigation of all allegations so that the truth about the election results can be known.
I would be very surprised to find there were no illegitimate votes cast in the last election.
But there are people on the forum who are convinced that the ele tion was stolen. That's a claim of a different magnitude altogether. What evidence is there of the kind of massive coordinated fraud that would be needed to give a false final outcome to the election?
It's worth pointing out that the campaign to challenge the election results is well-funded with on over $200m given, and there has been ample opportunity to bring evidence to court.
I would be very surprised to find there were no illegitimate votes cast in the last election.
But there are people on the forum who are convinced that the ele tion was stolen. That's a claim of a different magnitude altogether. What evidence is there of the kind of massive coordinated fraud that would be needed to give a false final outcome to the election?
It's worth pointing out that the campaign to challenge the election results is well-funded with on over $200m given, and there has been ample opportunity to bring evidence to court.
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I'm not calling you anything...I simply said that sounds like Romanist doctrine....
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it is interesting how your post mimic the main stream media about the fraud, but when given ample evidence from real reporters you all of sudden can not access real news, wonder why big tech is surpresing the truth, is it not interesting that big tech censoring just started prior to the us elections. You obviously do not have access to real news, other wise the fraud would be very evident to you, sorry you can not access the very informative videos that have been posted, I wonder if I shared a youtube video with a different slant in favor of the election results if you could access that???
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Dear Brother,
What some believe to be true (stolen), very well may be the truth, or not as also many others believe. However, without investigations being done into the fraud that is evident during this past election. No ones mind will be placed at ease, and confidence returned to the electoral process. That is the real concern. Unless everything is brought to the light of day, it will be impossible to bring back, if there ever was, a unity that is necessary if this country is not to be irreparable divided. There is the hope for a revival, in a country that was founded in Judeo/Christian principals that has been eroded over the years, but as I said, a revival in trust for the process might be the only way for restoration and unity for the people of the United States to continue as One Nation Under God.
Your belief that it also, must be coordinated to happen, belies the multi faceted organizations working towards a common end. Look at the NWO, and even if you don't believe in that. Take a look at many revolutions throughout history. Think of what has happened as a perfect storm, of occurrences and it is not beyond the pale that fraud could have changed the outcome to the election. Especially, since we are in the age of technology that has been incorporated into the electoral process. That is why I am interested in the findings of the Audit, that dealt with the Dominion Voting Machines. That could very well hold an important key, for large voting blocks to be changed.
I talked of the courts before. Evidence before the courts, and the courts accepting the cases are two different things. They are mutually exclusive for events to have occurred, and so the need for wide range of investigations, both Federally and through individual States. Which sadly, I don't see happening, though find it a necessity for the health of this country moving forward.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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It's not that I can't access it, I'm asking you directly on what evidence you base your belief that the election result was wrong. Who did it? where did it happen? When? And how was it done?
I would be compelled to change my thinking only if I see strong evidence that the vote was conducted improperly.
Please show me what the evidence is. I'm looking for hard data -- names, dates, times, etc -- that I can check out.
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the truth is it does not matter the US is not in the bible in end times, so I know what must take place, and bickering with brothers in Christ about something that is of this world will not help us in our growth in Christ it will only stunt our growth, believe what you want, nothing but love for you.
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The people of the United states will survive regardless of whatever horrendous things happen. Many might die. We might go from the most powerful nation in the world to a 3rd world country before its over..... but I would rather our nation be humbled than wiped out like sodom and gamorah.
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Just tell me what you know, the evidence that has led you to believe the election was stolen.
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the us is finished ,,,we now have a Pres who thinks it best for children to select their own gender by they way they feel , we now have a president who thinks boys should be allowed to play girls sports, we now have a president who says its ok if boys are in girls locker rooms if they think of themselves as girls. this is exactly what GOd told us would happen.
Yes this election was stolen no doubt with all the mounting evidence that has even been censored from big tech so the truth could not get out. BUt the fact is God is in control and they may have cheated to get in office, but they would not be in office if God did not allow them to be in office, for it is GOd who places everyone in office. I pray for the leaders of our country because God tells me to, not because I want to.
We have lost America its never going back to normal we will become more and more censored more and controlled all in the name of safety. People are being taught to hate each other because one person does not have a mask on , people do NOT actually think that way themselves, they have to be taught to think that way (from the media). We are seeing so many first time events happen in the history of the world its exciting to see Gods words play out right before our eyes.
2 Timothy 2:4
No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him.
All the evidence in the world will not change the result, will not make someone who thinks it was a legit win change there mind, this is a worthless argument, its over with. America as we knew is being changed a warped speed.
Yes this election was stolen no doubt with all the mounting evidence that has even been censored from big tech so the truth could not get out. BUt the fact is God is in control and they may have cheated to get in office, but they would not be in office if God did not allow them to be in office, for it is GOd who places everyone in office. I pray for the leaders of our country because God tells me to, not because I want to.
We have lost America its never going back to normal we will become more and more censored more and controlled all in the name of safety. People are being taught to hate each other because one person does not have a mask on , people do NOT actually think that way themselves, they have to be taught to think that way (from the media). We are seeing so many first time events happen in the history of the world its exciting to see Gods words play out right before our eyes.
2 Timothy 2:4
No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him.
All the evidence in the world will not change the result, will not make someone who thinks it was a legit win change there mind, this is a worthless argument, its over with. America as we knew is being changed a warped speed.
