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While you’re watching worldly tv.
Maybe the next stop will be a hog pen in Arkansas. :)
Finally watched it. :)
To answer Mr. Gregory: Instead of Disney, Times Square, etc. they went to the hog pen in Arkansas, because they thought that was the intelligent life on earth! :)
 
Join the list to have me banned.
While you’re watching worldly tv.
I do not watch TV I have not watched it for more than thirty years...I'm not looking to have you banned, I would rather you accepeted the truth. It was you who posted thaat worldly comedian, not me
 
Greetings (all)

Yes. I'm not talking about mental assent though...I'm asking if you trust in Jesus

I recall decades ago, a version of the Gospel called the Essene Gospel of Peace.
Why am I mentioning that?!!

Do you trust in Jesus?
What for, what about?
Why?

Is there something missing in the question, 'do you trust in Jesus' ?


Bless you ....><>
 
I do not watch TV I have not watched it for more than thirty years...I'm not looking to have you banned, I would rather you accepeted the truth. It was you who posted thaat worldly comedian, not me

I love that worldly comedian.
I might be that”worldly “comedian
 
Yes. I'm not talking about mental assent though...I'm asking if you trust in Jesus
Greetings (all)



I recall decades ago, a version of the Gospel called the Essene Gospel of Peace.
Why am I mentioning that?!!

Do you trust in Jesus?
What for, what about?
Why?

Is there something missing in the question, 'do you trust in Jesus' ?


Bless you ....><>
 
Rev 12:9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The word is messenger as in how beautiful are the feet of the apostles sent out with the gospel of Christ .

Satan's false apostles as false prophets are cast out .
 
Greetings (all)



I recall decades ago, a version of the Gospel called the Essene Gospel of Peace.
Why am I mentioning that?!!

Do you trust in Jesus?
What for, what about?
Why?

Is there something missing in the question, 'do you trust in Jesus' ?


Bless you ....><>
Believe is usually defined as "trust in, rely upon, and adhere to" So to that three part question....a three part answer?
 
I do... believe that UFOs (or UAPs) exist, but I do NOT... believe they are aliens. And I'll risk saying this also, if one does not understand how they can exist, then it probably means they don't understand God's creation of the heavens (plural) either.

A deep study of what Ezekiel saw described in Ezekiel 1 reveals the existence of craft from that other dimension written of in God's Word called Heaven, where God's and the angel's abode are.

It's amazing to me, that so many in this world are so wrapped up in their fleshy thinking as to believe this earthly dimension is the only one that exists. Those folks will truly be in for a shock on the day of Christ's future coming.

I recall with the testimony and movie of the writer who wrote the book Communion which was made into a movie with the actor Christopher Walken, that he said when speaking with those inside a craft that had the popular alien appearance, asking who they really were. He said they kept shape-shifting their outward appearance. He finally then said to them, "You're not going to allow me to see who you are, are you?"

I believe they are angels, of that other dimension, as also their craft. That would explain how those who see UFOs suddenly dart around in the sky in ways that is impossible per the physics of our material world. We simply do not have technology where we could survive the acceleration and speeds those UFOs have been seen doing by the Navy pilot's testimony in recent years.

So here it is... what God's Word actually reveals about this phenomenon, take it or leave it, but don't say I'm wrong when you have not verified in Bible Scripture for yourself.

Per Revelation 12:7-9, there is to be a war in Heaven between Archangel Michael and his angels, vs. Satan and his angels. The time of that war is for the latter days, not back when Satan first rebelled in the old world. It is what the Daniel 12:1 Scripture is pointing to when Archangel Michael makes 'a stand' for God's people, and then it points to the time of 'Jacob's trouble', a time on earth that has never been before, nor likely to ever be again. Lord Jesus quoted that about the coming time of "great tribulation" in Matthew 24:15 and Matthew 24:21.

Revelation 12:7-9 also reveals when that war in Heaven happens, then there will be no more place found in Heaven for Satan and his angels...

Rev 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not;
neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV


To mark that event is meant for the last days, and has not yet happened, the next verses start pointing to a time with Satan cast to the earth, and going after God's people, with peace finally established in Heaven, because Satan will then no longer be able to accuse us before God's throne (like in Job).

Rev 12:10-12
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV


Those who overcome Satan by the Blood of The Lamb Jesus by that TESTIMONY at the end is an event set for the 5th SEAL of Revelation 6:9-11. So that also is linking this event of Satan's casting out of the heavenly dimension down to this earth being for the latter days.

Satan knows he has but a "short time", which when he is cast out of heaven with his angels for the very end of this world, he is given 42 months to reign over all nations and peoples, and then Jesus' return will happen.

UFOs?? Yep! They are most likely what Satan and his will APPEAR in our 'earthly' dimension with, once they are booted out of the heavenly dimension. And they MUST come here into our earthly dimension, because there's only TWO dimensions of existence written of in God's Word. So there is no more place he can go, but here, on earth, in plain sight.

Also for those who doubt that Satan de facto, in person, is coming to this earth in plain sight, in the Ezekiel 28 parable which God spoke about him, God said He will bring a fire inside him that will turn him to ashes, UPON THE EARTH, in sight of all those who see him (Ezekiel 28:18).

And I already know what the carnal flesh thinkers will say about that, as they don't understand how Satan or angels can appear in our earthly dimension without a flesh body. I wouldn't pay attention to those fleshy minded folks, because their wrong belief actually rejects the fact that the angels of Genesis 18 & 19 appeared as 'men' that the sodomites of Sodom and Gomorrah wanted to have sex with.

The spirit angelic body has the image of man, just like all the angels do, including Satan. They can appear on earth with that image with no need to have a flesh body. Even Lord Jesus showed this as He suddenly appeared and disappeared among His disciples, entering a room with all the doors and windows shut. The angels can eat our food, as did the angels that appeared to Abraham and Lot in Genesis. And we can eat food of the angels (the heavenly 'manna', which the Israelites saw coming from Heaven, and when they saw it, they said, "what's that?" the actual meaning of the word 'manna', OT:4478).

Satan and his angels are coming to our earth. And they won't be hiding as a possessing spirit inside some flesh man. They will appear with the image of man that God created them also with. That is actually what the Scriptures are pointing to.
 
I do... believe that UFOs (or UAPs) exist, but I do NOT... believe they are aliens. And I'll risk saying this also, if one does not understand how they can exist, then it probably means they don't understand God's creation of the heavens (plural) either.

A deep study of what Ezekiel saw described in Ezekiel 1 reveals the existence of craft from that other dimension written of in God's Word called Heaven, where God's and the angel's abode are.

It's amazing to me, that so many in this world are so wrapped up in their fleshy thinking as to believe this earthly dimension is the only one that exists. Those folks will truly be in for a shock on the day of Christ's future coming.

I recall with the testimony and movie of the writer who wrote the book Communion which was made into a movie with the actor Christopher Walken, that he said when speaking with those inside a craft that had the popular alien appearance, asking who they really were. He said they kept shape-shifting their outward appearance. He finally then said to them, "You're not going to allow me to see who you are, are you?"

I believe they are angels, of that other dimension, as also their craft. That would explain how those who see UFOs suddenly dart around in the sky in ways that is impossible per the physics of our material world. We simply do not have technology where we could survive the acceleration and speeds those UFOs have been seen doing by the Navy pilot's testimony in recent years.

So here it is... what God's Word actually reveals about this phenomenon, take it or leave it, but don't say I'm wrong when you have not verified in Bible Scripture for yourself.

Per Revelation 12:7-9, there is to be a war in Heaven between Archangel Michael and his angels, vs. Satan and his angels. The time of that war is for the latter days, not back when Satan first rebelled in the old world. It is what the Daniel 12:1 Scripture is pointing to when Archangel Michael makes 'a stand' for God's people, and then it points to the time of 'Jacob's trouble', a time on earth that has never been before, nor likely to ever be again. Lord Jesus quoted that about the coming time of "great tribulation" in Matthew 24:15 and Matthew 24:21.

Revelation 12:7-9 also reveals when that war in Heaven happens, then there will be no more place found in Heaven for Satan and his angels...

Rev 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not;
neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV


To mark that event is meant for the last days, and has not yet happened, the next verses start pointing to a time with Satan cast to the earth, and going after God's people, with peace finally established in Heaven, because Satan will then no longer be able to accuse us before God's throne (like in Job).

Rev 12:10-12
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV


Those who overcome Satan by the Blood of The Lamb Jesus by that TESTIMONY at the end is an event set for the 5th SEAL of Revelation 6:9-11. So that also is linking this event of Satan's casting out of the heavenly dimension down to this earth being for the latter days.

Satan knows he has but a "short time", which when he is cast out of heaven with his angels for the very end of this world, he is given 42 months to reign over all nations and peoples, and then Jesus' return will happen.

UFOs?? Yep! They are most likely what Satan and his will APPEAR in our 'earthly' dimension with, once they are booted out of the heavenly dimension. And they MUST come here into our earthly dimension, because there's only TWO dimensions of existence written of in God's Word. So there is no more place he can go, but here, on earth, in plain sight.

Also for those who doubt that Satan de facto, in person, is coming to this earth in plain sight, in the Ezekiel 28 parable which God spoke about him, God said He will bring a fire inside him that will turn him to ashes, UPON THE EARTH, in sight of all those who see him (Ezekiel 28:18).

And I already know what the carnal flesh thinkers will say about that, as they don't understand how Satan or angels can appear in our earthly dimension without a flesh body. I wouldn't pay attention to those fleshy minded folks, because their wrong belief actually rejects the fact that the angels of Genesis 18 & 19 appeared as 'men' that the sodomites of Sodom and Gomorrah wanted to have sex with.

The spirit angelic body has the image of man, just like all the angels do, including Satan. They can appear on earth with that image with no need to have a flesh body. Even Lord Jesus showed this as He suddenly appeared and disappeared among His disciples, entering a room with all the doors and windows shut. The angels can eat our food, as did the angels that appeared to Abraham and Lot in Genesis. And we can eat food of the angels (the heavenly 'manna', which the Israelites saw coming from Heaven, and when they saw it, they said, "what's that?" the actual meaning of the word 'manna', OT:4478).

Satan and his angels are coming to our earth. And they won't be hiding as a possessing spirit inside some flesh man. They will appear with the image of man that God created them also with. That is actually what the Scriptures are pointing to.

I would offer.

Ezekiel 1 Like all parables. . the unseen spiritual understanding must be searched out . Mixing the temporal historical things seen with the eternal things of God not seen. ( 2 Corinthians 4:18 ) no mix no understanding.

Remember the loving law of hermeneutics . . .without parables the signified tongue of prophecy Christ spoke not. . hiding the understanding from unconverted mankind giving the gospel understanding to those born again therefore teaching Christians I believe how to walk by faith the unseen things of God

Many metaphors . . in that parable

Ezekiel 1 :4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

The word whirlwind used 27 times in the same way to represent the living word as a messenger.

Elijah the apostle moved by faith (whirlwind that Elijah went with)

2 Kings 2:1And it came to pass, when the Lord would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.

First moved him from Gilgal. the second work of moving as a whirlwind of the Holy Spirit. . into heaven

2 Kings 2:11And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Whirlwind brining the judgment of God represented by north

Job 37:9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north.

Whirlwind giving job the undststanding of God

Job 38:1Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind,and said,

Whirlwind the answer from God

Job 40:6Then answered the Lord unto Job out of the whirlwind,and said,

.Amber fire the judgment of Christ every metaphor has a certain spiritual understanding.

Ezekiel 1:27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.

I would think no UFO's No secrets the bible reveals them.
 
I would offer.

Ezekiel 1 Like all parables. . the unseen spiritual understanding must be searched out . Mixing the temporal historical things seen with the eternal things of God not seen. ( 2 Corinthians 4:18 ) no mix no understanding.

Remember the loving law of hermeneutics . . .without parables the signified tongue of prophecy Christ spoke not. . hiding the understanding from unconverted mankind giving the gospel understanding to those born again therefore teaching Christians I believe how to walk by faith the unseen things of God

Many metaphors . . in that parable

Ezekiel 1 :4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

The word whirlwind used 27 times in the same way to represent the living word as a messenger.

Elijah the apostle moved by faith (whirlwind that Elijah went with)

2 Kings 2:1And it came to pass, when the Lord would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.

First moved him from Gilgal. the second work of moving as a whirlwind of the Holy Spirit. . into heaven

2 Kings 2:11And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Whirlwind brining the judgment of God represented by north

Job 37:9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north.

Whirlwind giving job the undststanding of God

Job 38:1Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind,and said,

Whirlwind the answer from God

Job 40:6Then answered the Lord unto Job out of the whirlwind,and said,

.Amber fire the judgment of Christ every metaphor has a certain spiritual understanding.

Ezekiel 1:27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.

I would think no UFO's No secrets the bible reveals them.
For some reason I don't see visions as parables. They are two completely different things.
 
For some reason I don't see visions as parables. They are two completely different things.
Hi thanks for the reply . I would ofer .I have no always seen that. I hope it is what I am learning is true .

But can say I have had a interest from the time I first read the Bible on a daily basses . I started assembling with others and the preaching was on aprble it helped ne undersand

even before I thought I knew what a parable was . it seemed confusing and hard to understand I would write down what i think it meant later I discovered I was off but hopefully on the right path and started digging or studying finding out there are many different Ideas on the use of parables, what to they teach ? Some say when the word parable is seen then we know it is .

But Christ the Holy Spirit informes without parables he spoke not hiding the unseen spiritual (not sen) understanding from some . teaching the disciples how to walk by faith the unseen things of God In that way parables a figure of God's speech use the temporal historical things seen to give us the unseen understanding of God faith who works in us.

Therefore mixing the historical things seen with again the unseen eternal power of God . The two according to the mixing formula below must be mixed Or as informed in Hebrew 4 . Some did hear the gospel and believe God not seen but other heard it and did not mix it with faith the power of God

2 Corinthians 4:18King James Version18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Hebrews 4King James Version4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

In that way parable teach us how to hear prophecy as parables .Therfore revealing the unseen things of God

One of the examples I use is in Luke 9 there Christ prophesied with jesus brings a series of parables hiding the spirutl or gospel undesatning again and again On one ocasion in cofusion they must of thought jes went of the dep amen a twok a electol vote Who is the greatest with jesu two fet form them M Not understaning and stil wornder anoth to show them how chidish they were . in the end in a aporobel it loked like he was g going to jeruaslem and went to the gentile to eastblish he is the savior of the world the apotles who did not understand dembaded he bring down fire and conseume the gentiles The vers 55 he refuked them and informed them thy n knew not what sirt they were of *the sirt of the world natural unverted mankind.

Purple = parable


Luke 9:43-55 And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God. But
every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his disciples,Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying. Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest. And Jesus, perceiving the thought of their heart, took a child, and set him by him,And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great. And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us. And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of

parables as prophecy teach us to see the unseen eternal thing of God . Many from my experience say the make good bedtime stories

In that way vision or parable . Peter looked to the vision and must of thought Moses and elias were reincarnated rather than used to represent the word of God and desired to build literal temples for three gods

Below . Litalizing the parable as prophecy looking the the historical and not mixing the unseen eternal spiritual understanding. No mix no goepl Yoked with Christ he makes the mixing lighter

Matthew 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
 
It seems the UFO craze is at a lull.
Too much greater concerns in the news for the made up stuff
 
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