US is at the edge of war, China expert warns

[Bill]

You don't know that.

"You don't know that"

Is what you said, and I say to you neither do you so stop trying to be God stop trying to tell God what to do because that's exactly what you're doing. By making those type of judgments you're telling God what He should do and not what you should do which is hoping for all of mankind to make it to heaven.

 

[Waggles]

The world is doomed. Nothing will save this planet and the kingdoms of satan.
Her fate is written and is sealed.
Weapons of mass destruction > chemical, biological and nuclear war.
The San Andreas fault and the Cascade Subduction Zone will also unleash their mega destruction.

Matthew 24:21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

Rev 16:14 For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty.
Rev 16:15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!”)
Rev 16:16 And they assembled them at the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.

 

[Waggles]

 

[Bill]

The world is doomed. Nothing will save this planet and the kingdoms of satan.
Her fate is written and is sealed.
Weapons of mass destruction > chemical, biological and nuclear war.
The San Andreas fault and the Cascade Subduction Zone will also unleash their mega destruction.

Matthew 24:21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

Rev 16:14 For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty.
Rev 16:15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!”)
Rev 16:16 And they assembled them at the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.

It isn't weapons that will cause the destruction of the world, it's sin and God's just anger that will cause the destruction of the world.

In Scripture it States that God will remake the heavens and the Earth the new Earth and the new heavens mankind cannot create. Mankind might want to try to destroy the Earth but it is God who's going to do it God who's going to remove the old Earth and replace it with the new Earth. But what do you mean by that exactly who knows it could be something completely different than what we understand

 

[Bill]

Nothing like an anti-American post. Might as well just jump on the bandwagon. Well I got news for you America is not the only bad country in the world it's still the best country in the world considering freedom. Because there's nowhere else in the world that you can do so much.

What the author of that video neglected to tell you is that you have to comply to all of the Chinese rules and regulations if you want to go over to China for any length of time and that includes renouncing Christianity of any sort. If you are found with a Bible over there more likely you'll either be in some crazy prison for the rest of your life or you'll be killed. There have been stories from people who have survived Slaughters of a whole village that went Christian and the government found out about it and they came in and just slaughtered the whole village. So next time you want to come down on America and complain about all this and that and how terrible America is and all just remember other countries they don't tolerate Christianity too well and you certainly do not have as much freedom anywhere versus the United States

 

[Hekuran]

The same verses taken OUT of context as usual.
That was part of the Civil law given to Israel way back in the day and for minor disputes and guidance for the Court.
The last sentence further instates this.
In some non-existent universe IF God expected us to suddenly become hippie, non-violent no matter what pacifists all the early Christians would've been killed off before the Bible could've completed, thus proving Christianity was fake.
We don't follow Ceremonial law either or the market for raising cattle for slaughter and yearly painting of our doors and frames with fresh BLOOD would be a very profitable business.
David was one of the most important people in human history and one of the best generals. Your use of that out of context to try to suggest your opinion doesn't work.

I know what you mean. The person who first taught his disciples to turn the other cheek took the option not to resist arrest when the Roman soldiers came for him, and they killed him brutally and in very short order.

 

[Hekuran]

The world is doomed

The world is not doomed. Jesus will return to reign in glory, justice and peace, and all creation will be reconciled to him. See Romans 8 and colossians 1.

 

[Waggles]

The world is not doomed.

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD comes, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger, to make the land a desolation and to destroy its sinners from it.
10 For the stars of the heavens and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be dark at its rising, and the moon will not shed its light. [nuclear winter]
11 I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant, and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless.
12 I will make people more rare than fine gold, and mankind than the gold of Ophir.
13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, and the earth will be shaken out of its place, at the wrath of the LORD of hosts in the day of his fierce anger.

 

[Waggles]

nothing like an anti-American post. Might as well just jump on the bandwagon. Well I got news for you America is not the only bad country in the world it's still the best country in the world considering freedom. Because there's nowhere else in the world that you can do so much.

Wohhh - a bit over the top there mate ...
the video is about the technological race going on between China and the USA.
Biden sometime ago publicly declared that he would not allow China to excel in economic and technological development over the USA.
And the EU foreign minister Josep Borrell only recently described Europe as a manicured garden and the rest of the world as a jungle.
Seems that colonial racism is not quite dead and buried yet.
Also seems like America has a problem with non-whites showing up the colonial hegemony of Europeans (in both the old and new worlds).
The video is not about the good and evil of China, but about the politics of U.S. hegemony to suppress other nations and peoples.

In any case Jesus will gather the nations to come together for battle at Armageddon and that will be the end of everything.
The whole world will burn, and only those who truly make the GOD of salvation their refuge and sanctuary will have any hope of coming through
this nuclear tribulation.

 

[Waggles]

WAR IS COMING TO US ALL

Isaiah 24:1 Behold, the LORD will empty the earth and make it desolate, and he will twist its surface and scatter its inhabitants.
2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the slave, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller;
as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the creditor, so with the debtor.
3 The earth shall be utterly empty and utterly plundered; for the LORD has spoken this word.
4 The earth mourns and withers; the world languishes and withers; the highest people of the earth languish.
5 The earth lies defiled under its inhabitants; for they have transgressed the laws, violated the statutes, broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse devours the earth, and its inhabitants suffer for their guilt; therefore the inhabitants of the earth are scorched, and few men are left. [another reference to nuclear war]

 

[Hekuran]

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD comes, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger, to make the land a desolation and to destroy its sinners from it.
10 For the stars of the heavens and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be dark at its rising, and the moon will not shed its light. [nuclear winter]
11 I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant, and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless.
12 I will make people more rare than fine gold, and mankind than the gold of Ophir.
13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, and the earth will be shaken out of its place, at the wrath of the LORD of hosts in the day of his fierce anger.

That is VERY clearly a prophecy of the destruction of Babylon, which happened in 538 bc

 

[Hekuran]

WAR IS COMING TO US ALL

Isaiah 24:1 Behold, the LORD will empty the earth and make it desolate, and he will twist its surface and scatter its inhabitants.
2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the slave, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller;
as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the creditor, so with the debtor.
3 The earth shall be utterly empty and utterly plundered; for the LORD has spoken this word.
4 The earth mourns and withers; the world languishes and withers; the highest people of the earth languish.
5 The earth lies defiled under its inhabitants; for they have transgressed the laws, violated the statutes, broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse devours the earth, and its inhabitants suffer for their guilt; therefore the inhabitants of the earth are scorched, and few men are left. [another reference to nuclear war]

It already came. That's a prophecy of Judah falling to Babylon.

Note that the Hebrew word (erets) translated "earth" here also means "land".

For example its in Genesis 12:1 where God commands Abram to go to the land i will show you.

Strongs's #776: 'erets - Greek/Hebrew Definitions - Bible Tools

 

[Waggles]

That is VERY clearly a prophecy of the destruction of Babylon, which happened in 538 bc

That is a very wrong incorrect understanding of prophecy.

Most prophecy like everything else in the Bible comes in twos - one reference for the time of writing and a reference to a future event
that encompasses the continuing spiritual war of our times in these last days.
There are two Babylons - the first we read of in the OT and then Mystery Babylon for our times.
In the end the wrath and judgement of God will come upon the whole world - yes even America will burn.
verse 6 refers to men being scorched - and few human beings being left alive - a reference again to nuclear war,
and to what Jesus declared that no people would be left alive in the world except that He shorten the days of this horrific tribulation in order to save the elect
and a remnant of human population. [Matthew 24]
Rev 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.
Isaiah 24:1 Behold, the LORD will empty the earth and make it desolate, and he will twist its surface and scatter its inhabitants.
Isaiah 13:9 is about the day of the LORD which is a specific time - the last day - the day of Judgement and the return of Jesus in power and glory. [Zechariah 14]

 

[Hekuran]

Where in the isaiah 13 and 24 texts do you see the prophet pointing beyond the events of his own time?

If you are going to make the leap from Judah's defeat at the hands of Babylon to modern America, you need to show how its a valid step. What is there in Isaiah that points to America in particular? Why now?

 

[Waggles]

Why now?

Because now we are all in the very last of days.
Study geopolitics and you will see Bible prophecy unfolding before your eyes.
The nations are being gathered into their alliances in order that armies of enormous sizes will make war.
And in the end God will gather them together to come down upon the hills of modern Israel.
Netanyahu and his racist fascist coalition are just the people to bring offenses to Arabs and the whole Muslim world.
Now we have the technological means to bring utter destruction upon the whole planet and all life.
Followed by a nuclear winter in which neither the Sun nor the Moon will give their light.

Ezekiel 39:12 For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse the land. [that is a lot of dead bodies]
Matthew 24:21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.
Ezekiel 30:3 For the day is near, the day of the LORD is near; it will be a day of clouds, a time of doom for the nations.
1Thessalonians 1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

Rev 16:14 For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty.
Rev 16:15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!”)
Rev 16:16 And they assembled them at the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.

Joel 2:30 “And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. [nuclear war and darkness]

 

[Bill]

Where in the isaiah 13 and 24 texts do you see the prophet pointing beyond the events of his own time?

If you are going to make the leap from Judah's defeat at the hands of Babylon to modern America, you need to show how its a valid step. What is there in Isaiah that points to America in particular? Why now?

There is very great truth to that what you just said. That a prophet only goes to the events of his own time.

 

[Bill]

Wohhh - a bit over the top there mate ...
the video is about the technological race going on between China and the USA.
Biden sometime ago publicly declared that he would not allow China to excel in economic and technological development over the USA.
And the EU foreign minister Josep Borrell only recently described Europe as a manicured garden and the rest of the world as a jungle.
Seems that colonial racism is not quite dead and buried yet.
Also seems like America has a problem with non-whites showing up the colonial hegemony of Europeans (in both the old and new worlds).
The video is not about the good and evil of China, but about the politics of U.S. hegemony to suppress other nations and peoples.

In any case Jesus will gather the nations to come together for battle at Armageddon and that will be the end of everything.
The whole world will burn, and only those who truly make the GOD of salvation their refuge and sanctuary will have any hope of coming through
this nuclear tribulation.

The battle of Armageddon is not for a while yet. You still have to experience the great day of the Lord in which God the Father will reveal himself to every man woman and child on the planet.

After which we'll be a great outpouring of the Holy Spirit and many will come to the churches seeking forgiveness and wanting to find Christ but it will only be short-lived.

At the end of which roughly 6 months after the great day of the Lord. There is going to be a great miracle. But it's not the rapture because the Rapture is a false teaching.

 

[Waggles]

 

[Bill]

If you want to understand why you are having trouble understanding the scripture is that the scripture was written in a way that is both spiritual and physical at the same time.

The physical understanding of the scripture would be the literal translation of it. But the spiritual translation of the scripture has to do with what is to come

 

[lentz]

The battle of Armageddon is not for a while yet. You still have to experience the great day of the Lord in which God the Father will reveal himself to every man woman and child on the planet.

After which we'll be a great outpouring of the Holy Spirit and many will come to the churches seeking forgiveness and wanting to find Christ but it will only be short-lived.

At the end of which roughly 6 months after the great day of the Lord. There is going to be a great miracle. But it's not the rapture because the Rapture is a false teaching.

What miracle after 6 months?
And yes the rapture of Church will take place before tribulation.
If i am alive,....why should i have to go through it and those that died centuries ago dont? Is God going to raise everyone to go through tribulation?