Once more we definitely disagree Gracealone and I have avoided saying anything in the past but it seems you take liberty in trying to correct me when you are the one who needs correcting. I respect your age and some of your input and posts but your understanding concerning spiritual things is not as full as you think. I suggest that you humble yourself and recognize that there are some spiritual truths that you don't yet understand.
What If Christian Churches Were Gone?
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I dont doubt that a bit jiggy, I will be learning for all eternity, the things of my Lord.
You Sir, seem to think you can go around correcting every one, so maybe you need to take your own advice?
Did not Jesus himself, instruct to prepare an Upper Room, to gather in before his death, and after he arose, were they not gathered together in one place when Pentecost was manifest?
Tell me in plain English, exactly what are you proposing?
All I can tell is your against anyone who belongs to,or fellowships in, a church?
What exactly is your supper spiritual knowledge we need to glean?
Speak plainly so we who are less spiritual, can grow, and find unity here. :embarasse
Nice bit of humbling there Gracealone:wink:
There are some things that I would like to share but at present I don't believe you can bear them.
Maybe I will start another thread in the near future so this one won't be derailed.
I am against false teaching and religious attitude and thinking.
I don't appreciate your sarcasm but I do understand it. I was much the same way.
The unity that Father wants for us is a product of being submitted and governed by HolySpirit.
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There was no sarcasm jiggy, I honestly want to understand where you are coming from......
You continue to judge my heart, and motives, and only the Lord knows either.
You say you are against false teaching, religious attitude, and thinking, how do you clarify that to determine what is, and what isn't?
Also how do you determine who is being governed by the Holy Spirit?
You feel you are the judge of that?
I too have the Holy Spirit dwelling in me, He is the earnest of my inheritance., but when you ignore truth from the scriptures which was God breathed by the Holy Spirit, and find fault with those who pattern their life from his word, I cant help but be puzzled.
Yes, maybe you need to start a new thread, I believe this is of great importance.:thumbs_up
Victory53 that was a great summary you did about the church. That is why I asked all those questions, how much more a body of people in the church can do. I have seen time and time again where children came to church without parents and gave themselves to the Lord. There is just so much can be done as a whole.
Without the church (which is not just a building but a body of believers), would be a devastating thing. Hun, just keep being encourage in what you do, and may the Lord continue to bless you.
Your sister in Christ, Trish
Without the church (which is not just a building but a body of believers), would be a devastating thing. Hun, just keep being encourage in what you do, and may the Lord continue to bless you.
Your sister in Christ, Trish
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Php 3:7 But whatever things were assets to me, these I now consider a loss for the sake of Christ.
Php 3:8 What is more, I continue to consider all these things as a loss for the sake of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. It is because of him that I have experienced the loss of all those things. Indeed, I consider them rubbish in order to gain Christ
Php 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but one that comes through the faithfulness of Christ, the righteousness that comes from God and that depends on faith.
Php 3:10 I want to know Christ-what his resurrection power is like and what it means to share in his sufferings by becoming like him in his death,
Php 3:11 though I hope to experience the resurrection from the dead.
Php 3:12 It's not that I have already reached this goal or have already become perfect. But I keep pursuing it, hoping somehow to embrace it just as I have been embraced by Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brothers, I do not consider myself to have embraced it. But this one thing I do: Forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,
Php 3:14 I keep pursuing the goal to win the prize of God's heavenly call in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15 Therefore, those of us who are mature should think this way. And if you think differently about anything, God will show you how to think.
Php 3:16 However, we should live up to what we have achieved so far.
Php 3:17 Join together in imitating me, brothers, and pay close attention to those who live by the example we have given you.
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Php 3:8 What is more, I continue to consider all these things as a loss for the sake of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. It is because of him that I have experienced the loss of all those things. Indeed, I consider them rubbish in order to gain Christ
Php 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but one that comes through the faithfulness of Christ, the righteousness that comes from God and that depends on faith.
Php 3:10 I want to know Christ-what his resurrection power is like and what it means to share in his sufferings by becoming like him in his death,
Php 3:11 though I hope to experience the resurrection from the dead.
Php 3:12 It's not that I have already reached this goal or have already become perfect. But I keep pursuing it, hoping somehow to embrace it just as I have been embraced by Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brothers, I do not consider myself to have embraced it. But this one thing I do: Forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,
Php 3:14 I keep pursuing the goal to win the prize of God's heavenly call in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15 Therefore, those of us who are mature should think this way. And if you think differently about anything, God will show you how to think.
Php 3:16 However, we should live up to what we have achieved so far.
Php 3:17 Join together in imitating me, brothers, and pay close attention to those who live by the example we have given you.
Thread closed as topic as become too contentious.
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What If Christian Churches Are Gone?
Victory53: If, as you say, the church building is the vehicle God uses to bring His children together, how is it that missionaries (Catholic and Protestant) are able to start congregations from scratch before a church building is built? And how is it that congregations in the Third World can meet regularly outdoors when their church buildings have been leveled?The church I'm part of began in the pastor's home approximately twenty years ago. Those people had no church building for some time.
The vehicle God wants to use to bring His children together is the Church (people), not the church building. Too many churches today think they can throw open the church doors on Sunday and unsaved folk will come in of their own accord. Their declining enrollments ought to tell them that that isn't so.
"Then the master said to his servant, 'Go out to the roads and country lanes and make them come in, so that my house will be full.'"
(Lk 14:23 NIV)
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Victory53: If, as you say, the church building is the vehicle God uses to bring His children together, how is it that missionaries (Catholic and Protestant) are able to start congregations from scratch before a church building is built? And how is it that congregations in the Third World can meet regularly outdoors when their church buildings have been leveled?The church I'm part of began in the pastor's home approximately twenty years ago. Those people had no church building for some time.
The vehicle God wants to use to bring His children together is the Church (people), not the church building. Too many churches today think they can throw open the church doors on Sunday and unsaved folk will come in of their own accord. Their declining enrollments ought to tell them that that isn't so.
"Then the master said to his servant, 'Go out to the roads and country lanes and make them come in, so that my house will be full.'"
(Lk 14:23 NIV)
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