What Is Blaspheming the Holy Ghost?

[GodB4Us]

Dear Brother,
It might be a good idea to not use this type of expression in the future. Some might very well find it racist/insulting.
If they do, it will take away from the point/message you are trying to communicate/get across.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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Thanks for the advise. I should consider that not everybody knows what that term means anyway, and I did bother to explain it in relation to the truth I was sharing.

 

[Br. Bear]

Thanks for the advise. I should consider that not everybody knows what that term means anyway, and I did bother to explain it in relation to the truth I was sharing.

Greetings,

to reiterate what Christ4Ever said,

and to expand somewhat upon it,
the term you used was and is a derogatory remark that originally was intended to be used with the express idea that such behaviour was 'like' the Indian folk would do, WHICH IS RACIST and extremely discriminatory, not to mention rude, hateful and uncharitable (as in un-Godly)

you are not the first to use such a term or 'saying', this much we know.

If we add the offense it is, to the 'American Indian', to the using the name of the Lord (even if loosely i.e. God) in the same sentence and thereby joining the two in our words, we are defiling His Name and basically breaking the first two (greatest) commandments, therefore, all that follows in our doctrine and walk is in vain.
So, you can see it is indeed serious which that is why i am writing this, not only to you but all who might do similar, (or have done [remember to not rush to pick up stones] ) .
Let us thank God that We have an advocate and One Who intercedes for us, should we repent and confess, Jesus Christ the Lord, and move on, leaving all filthiness behind us, as it is by God's Mercy and Grace that we are not consumed, and not of ourselves.
Having liberty, let us not use that as an excuse.


We do need to post prayerfully and we do need to remember the mind of Christ in all things.


Thank you for at least trying to acknowledge that such terminology is not acceptable, here or anywhere.

Post in Peace

Jesus is the Lord


Bless you ....><>

 

[Shaolin]

I submit that it is about resisting believing in Jesus Christ because that is the only sin the Holy Spirit will convict of for which there is no forgiveness.

No...because in that case the whole world at one time or another would have no forgiveness. What you have claimed here comes out of the false religion of calvinism, not Scripture. There are a number of things that can be counted as blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (there is no such thing as a holy ghost, that is horrible mistranslation); Jesus said attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to demons is blasphemy, and Apollos says that the only person who can blaspheme the Holy Spirit is a person who once got saved, walked with God, and then went back into living a lifestyle of blatant sin (Heb. 10:26-29).

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[Luminary]

I submit that it is about resisting believing in Jesus Christ because that is the only sin the Holy Spirit will convict of for which there is no forgiveness.

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

So read this message in context about how that sin of unbelief is the unforgiveable sin to see the motivation behind the Pharisees striving to get the crowd to not believe in Him.

Matthew 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? 27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. 29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. 30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

What is that condemnation? Unbelief.

I remember a Christian girl had posted a thread worrying about her sins in blaspheming the Holy Ghost before she was saved. She had said nasty things about the Holy Spirit, and so I do not believe The Father would have drawn her unto the Son to believe in Him to be saved if her insults towards the Holy Spirit was what Jesus was talking about. Why would God bother to save her then?

It is unbelief in Jesus Christ is the only sin the Holy Ghost will convict of that is the unforgiveable sin.

We are to test the spirits to know what is the spirit of the antichrist as being outside of us as opposed to the real indwelling Holy Ghost in us since salvation. 1 John 4:1-6 & 2 Corinthians 11:1-4 & 2 Corinthians 13:5 & 1 Timothy 4:1-2 It is hypocrisy to receive the Holy Spirit again when He has been in you since salvation at the calling of the gospel.

This is about keeping the faith in Jesus Christ which is the good fight.

May I offer that it would be resisting what is convicted within us, and doing it anyways. Or ignoring it. Perhaps even taking the works as our own. The kingdom would never be complete.

For a house divided cannot stand! Neither could it’s “works” (construction) go toward, as it would be hindered. It’s painful when one is known to do it intentionally. Just as Jesus knew the thoughts of those Pharisee….They show themselves!

At least What I’ve gotten from it But as one who has experienced that Mercy and forgiveness, even grace itself…..is there anything a child could do that you wouldn’t be forgive? Especially in ignorance?

Is there anything in the Love that our God stands for, that wouldn’t be forgiven? Truly? As there is no fear (as we understand today) in that Kind of Love.

I’ve spent some time with this one, and understand the (spiritual) reasoning behind Jesus words. And the “this but that” just doesn’t seem too fit with the Spiritual teachings that were given, and the reasonings for them.

Grace has no room the outcasting of anything.

What do you understand “believing in Jesus “ to mean?
And would there be a difference between believing -in and believing -on?

 

[Garee]

No...because in that case the whole world at one time or another would have no forgiveness. What you have claimed here comes out of the false religion of calvinism, not Scripture. There are a number of things that can be counted as blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (there is no such thing as a holy ghost, that is horrible mistranslation); Jesus said attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to demons is blasphemy, and Apollos says that the only person who can blaspheme the Holy Spirit is a person who once got saved, walked with God, and then went back into living a lifestyle of blatant sin (Heb. 10:26-29).

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Before he had mercy on some the whole word had no forgiveness .

All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:( Flesh and blood the temporal what the eyes see)


Blasphemy against the Son of man Jesus was forgivable .Seeing we do not know the father in respect to a earthen dying body of clay ,

Jesus is regarded as our brother in the Lrd as new born again family of God we call no man on earth Holy Father.

The Holy Spirit gave words to his Son the apostle Jesus to rebuke the father of lies (Satan the antichrist) .In effect Jesus the apostle said to Peter directed at the spirit of lies saying: get behind me not seen eternal God or walk by faith not behind Peter temporal mankind .

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy of the Son of man .That 33 year window of opportunity is gone forever

Again the father gave the powerfull words to his Son in order to bebuke , Satan. Jesus had no power of his own as the Son of man

Mathew 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.